MG Midget Buyer's Guide
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- MG Midget Buyer's Guide
Welcome along to my MG Midget Channel!
Having owned an MG Midget for over 5 years, I thought it might be helpful to share some of the things I have learned and some of the things I wish I had known before buying my MG Midget. So low and behold, here is my quickfire MG Midget Buying guide.
I appreciate I could have made this 52x longer with even more detail - But I have tried to keep it short and punchy! If you want any more information please drop a comment, Id love to help anyone in their journey toward ownership.
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00:00 Introduction Silly Time
01:23 Useful Stuff To Take With You
02:26 Which Model to buy?
03:08 Bodywork Issues to look out for
07:27 Mechanical Issues to look out for
10:30 Interior checks
13:17 Test Drive
16:50 Prices and Sum Up
Hope you find it useful to some degree!
Big love until next time.
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Andy, I live in Switzerland and am organizing my second Mg Midget Alpine Tour (Sprite derivatives welcome) in Sept 2023. There is a group that drive over from the UK (Mostly MASC members from Kent), they take 3-4 days driving over and we meet up in Switzerland for a week in the mountains driving various passes. We have a hotel as a base and drive various routes from there. Let me know if you are interested, everyone pays their hotels themselves (there is a plan with the route and stops & its done on a budget). We also have some Swiss members from my Swiss club, a couple of French members German too...... Its a blast.......
Hey Sacosh ! As much as I would love to do this, sadly I must decline! I have a little one, and limited time from work I'm afraid and am booked up already for 2023!
But super touched your reached out. Best of luck with it though my friend
Currently buying my first midget and this video was the most helpful one I've come across.
Was really helpful knowing the cars weak points prior to seeing the car... Hopefully picking it up at the weekend! Thanks for the help (you have a new subscriber)
Hey James, thanks so much for your kind words dude. And wow, how exciting buying your first midget! Whatya gonna pop for ???
@@AndysMGAdventures 1977 1500 with bumper conversion. Rebuilt a couple of years ago and not seen the rain since. A purists nightmare as it's Vulcan grey (same as the bomber!) Really clean car, I checked all the points you suggest and was surprised how tidy it was and the test drive was great fun. Will have it by Sunday morning just hope the weather forecast is right and it stays dry
Dude send me a photo when you get her. ! Vulcan grey sounds epic
looking at my first MG ( '71) in a couple of days, thanks for a great video of what to look for!
Pleasure! Good luck with the purchase too!!
thanks, excellent footage. contents are pretty beneficial for new midget buyers. looking forward to the next video.
Thanks so much, a bit of fun but also hopefully helpful !
Great job. Excellent info on buying a spriget. Keep putting those vids out. It’s greatly appreciated. Cheers mate.
Greatly appreciated thank you Mike mate
Well done. Overall a very good video well presented. I think your values went from too optimistic at £500 to not insane enough for a very straight Frogeye but those buying at those ends often aren't buying the cars to actually drive them.
Brilliant video, very funny but very informative on a car I’ve always loved. Thank you👍
Ah no worries , so glad you found it entertaining!
Brilliant.
Been toying with the idea of getting a Midget for a while.
A dead useful vid 👍
Nice one Steve! Glad you enjoyed 😉
Great video Andy
I had a glacier white 72 RWA with navy blue interior as my first car which was my daily driver back in 86-88.
I have owned a 72 RWA, a 76 1500,a 66 MK11 and now on my 74 RWA owned 19 years.
Keep up the good work Andy.👍
Goodness me you like your spridgets don't you! Nice work mate! Yeah thanks chap it's all a bit of fun. Glad some people appreciate it !
@@AndysMGAdventures ,always been a fan of the Midget.
I fancy a nice Frogeye one day as well as the Midget.
Boys and their Toys.👍🇬🇧
I get that feeling totally. One day I'll also own a mustang lol
I miss my 1975 MG Midget, Special edition.
Mine had 3 windscreen wipers.
I always loved the 3 wiper look !
Great video with lots of useful info for us dreamers to hopefully use one day. 😉
Haha. Thanks for the kind words Lisa. One day eh?
I had a 1973 ... I put a Toyota starlet 5 speed gearbox, coby exhaust and custom air box. It was so cool... I blew up driveshaft. Fixed that and it was possibly the coolest car I’ve ever driven. Slide round corners... and heaps of power. Ohhh reminisce... now I have 4 kids (under 6) and a Mitsubishi people mover 😏
There will be another chance when they're a bit older my friend. Always always always. Cars are family too
Interesting video. I had a 1500 Midget for a short time and found the MG Owners Club to be a particularly useful for spares, advice and so forth. One owner reviewed his car and said it had the handling of a greasy pig in a greasy sack. A bit unkind but it's rear wheel drive with cart spring suspension on the back and lever arm shock absorbers on the front. There are all manner of upgrades for the suspension and you can even go for a K series engine however, soon you'll find you're converting it into something entirely different like a Mazda.
Thanks Tom. I would love to do some of the front line upgrades to mine. But it makes me think the money would be better sent. Fixing up the body work 🙌
Smashing video. Used to have a '65 Mk2 but it was stolen!!! Now about to dip back in and get a '74 Mk3. Happy times.
Boom! Solid choice !!!
loving your work
Cheers Matthew. Yours is the colour I want margo to be
Excellent video Andy. Very nicely produced and some great advice. I would invest in an AA inspection. I've found that this can be a real money saver over time. Better to get the best you can afford than having to spend a small fortune when you discover great big nasty holes you missed earlier.
I think these cars age rather like humans. I squeak and rattle a bit and have the odd exhaust leak sometimes. Oh well, ces't la vie.
Brilliant idea ! 💡. Especially for mechanical novices like me haha thanks so much for the comment!
@@AndysMGAdventures - My '75 Midget is orange like at 2:40, but rubber bumpers, was 1500 engine, 57 emissions netHP, 85 MPH, before the V8. Originally dark British Racing Green, but it's so small, I feel safer in it with Mustang Grabber Orange paint.
@@BuzzLOLOL I want to strip mine down and make it orange with black alloys
@@AndysMGAdventures - White color is great! Black wheels just look dirty to me... sorry you didn't get the 3rd wiper... LOL !
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Film making and editing is first rate improved, I think, over time. The rubber bumper is a horror, glad mine was removed before I bought it. You need a name tag on your coveralls. Mine says "Kenny" (only my mom and wife call me that). You need (and I need) a pair of hydraulic lift pistons for the bonnet, it saves it from warping. This is a really good overview.
Pistons would be brilliant! Would save my head too. Haha.
My father in law calls me "mandy " so I'll get that sewn in
Brilliant video looking to see one tomorrow first classic car very nervous but watching your video hopefully will help me a lot
Ah you'll be fine Roger! Trust your gut my friend. Let me know how you get on!
@@AndysMGAdventures Hi Andy , I had a look at the midget today with the list of things to check but when I got there the car was covered and outside his house so had a peek underneath and everything underneath was new and he had done a lot too the car so I asked if he had it Mot he said no and wouldn’t have one done, anyway took it for a run loved driving it except for the odd grating go gears then it started fluttering he said it’s the petrol nowadays it doesn’t like it so parked up and walked away thinking 🤔 £6500
@@rogerfox7380 there are 2 for sale on the Midget and sprite club on Facebook (the club I'm a part of ) for much cheaper than that.... I would shop about a little bit more. Gears crunching if its isn't first gear syncromesh issues, is a little concerning! You did the right thing !
@@AndysMGAdventures Hi Andy just letting you know i shall be ringing someone tomorrow about the 1967 MG they have for sale on Facebook wish me luck
@@rogerfox7380 oooooo good luck sir!
Nice to see my Primrose Yellow Mk 3 1275cc in your video 👍🏻
Had to be done. She's a beauty
Good video. Wife had a black tulip 73 RWA 40 years ago. Called it the rolling coffin. Got a RB MGB now.
Rolling coffin haha love that. How's the MGB by comparison?
@@AndysMGAdventures Much roomier coffin.
@@paulmurphy7823 perfect
Excellent content and quality
Ah many thanks, means a lot !
great video very useful
Love your videos Andy. Even your finger pointing lol. Just purchased my 1st. Maizee the mellow midget!! Just wondering,do you know what size steering wheel you had. I've still got the original and contemplating a 14" or maybe a 13". Farewell Margo, you will be missed
I think she was a 13 inch ! I preferred the smaller overall ! And thanks so much Roger!
Very useful, thanks.
Most welcome 👍🏻
I can see how people might find you a bit too corny, but I really enjoy it for some reason. You're sharing what you're learning with people as you go, and doing it in your style.
Keep it up I say, and as the saying goes, Illegitimi non carborundum.
Thanks Tim. It'll be more restrained next time !
Had a 66 midget, a guy in Canton OH made door hinges and hand formed rocker paanels.
Those sort of people are rare!
Thanks, very helpful.
Cheers doug!
Great cars. Paid £4000 for my ‘66 Sprite mk3 which has been upgraded to a 1275 from 1100. Needs a bit of fettling but I’m enjoying doing it. Next job is to replace the dual master cylinder as the brakes don’t work 🤣
Ah who needs brakes, live life on the edge 🤣 buy yeah super awesome little things
Great video. I am about to buy my first, mk3 67. It needs a bit work, and I am totally knew to this, no experience handling cars more than driving them. Would you please share some tips I ought to know? The very basics, tools, places to order possible parts, parts (in the car) to pay extra attention to and learn its name/meaning. Thanks.
Congrats on the purchase ! Whereabouts are you based?
@@AndysMGAdventures Thanks. I am based in Sweden!
Hmmm I don't know Sweden! I buy parts off moss europe, and demon tweeks. So sorry !!!
Great info thanks
Most welcome Carl!
We had two Midgets. I drove a 1963 when Doris and I were dating in high school. Dad bought it for $225 and told me I could keep it if I could make it run. I bought a 1974 Midget for Doris and we drove it for several years. I miss my Midget.
It's never too late Thomas... time to find a new one ?
@@AndysMGAdventures I'm a pastor who already has too many vehicles in his garage, though. Finding parts for a 50 year old car in the US is often a problem. I know. I have my Dad's 1966 Chevy Corvair ...
Ah I'm a sucker for 60s and 70s American metal. Wish I had a bit of V8 magic over here in my garage! You hang on to that beauty sir
I was surprised to hear you suggest not paying extra for an Austin Healey when the Midget was originally an upscale Sprite. Has that changed over time in the UK? (here in the US I’m not aware that the Sprites have appreciated over the Midgets).
Healeys over here, heralded way higher than mg!
Great Video , would you recommend it for a daily journey of only 20 odd miles ? Is it reliable enough
If they're well maintained then they can be . They're just a bit noisy with the roof up! mine has been very reliable over 5 years. Only broken down once or twice! Just make you store it well , wherever you park it.
There a pretty sturdy one with 3 windshield wipers and rally markings it has verry little rust sitting in the junkyard I’m looking it to trying to buy
You might have found a corker there my friend
Clutch fluid ?
Huh I’m going to have to look for that on my 75 midget never heard of that
Nice! best model must be MK3, I have a 62, 948 very slow and sensitive gearbox, no anti roll bar and drum brakes in front
Good lord you must be a fantastic driver haha ! I do love those early ones though !
@@AndysMGAdventures I'm about to put in a Datsun A14 engine with dual Weber 40 and 5 gear gearbox, soon ready I hope
@@alfaradbean good lord. That must be a squeeze no??
@@AndysMGAdventures I hope it will be move little better, rather common conversion back in the days, looks like a Austin A engine but with Al top and five main bearings and more improvements copmared to the Austin, maybe 80 Hp
@@alfaradbean hope you're documenting it would love to see pictures!
I am interested in getting an early 1970s Midget for summer; particularly to take on mini road trips. Can you confidently take a midget on a 500km trip?
My midget was the most reliable car I've ever had lol . However I fastidiously maintained it. So if you get one, make sure the previous owners has looked after it !
Well done.
Thank you Eric Sir
Thanks so much
You're welcome mate
How's handling in the rain? Do
they tend to slide around a lot? or do they hold the road?
They are a little wobbly . You can upgrade suspension and tires but because they're light and small, you can get them sideways..... but in the dry they are super grippy
Drive my '75 Midget year around... sun, rain, snow... nothing unusual... -25 degrees F... OK, heater is marginal that cold outside... good thing we were wearing snow skiing clothes...
I think you got one thing wrong - you said to move the car and make sure there's no ugly spots on the ground. How else are you supposed to know if it has oil in it? It lets you know the automatic undercoat rust prevention system is still working!
If I could do a LOL emoji, you would just have got one 🤣
Andy, what's the story mate? Ya got rid of Margo and we are still waiting for the new ride. If you don't mind the steering wheel being on other side I'll find you one here across the pond.
Haha.
Hey Mike. I got an 84 1275 mini cabrio. Which has currently got the block and GB split apart . But decided to take a rest from making CZcams videos for a bit .
I might do one soon though....
Its not the water thats the corrosion problem.. The problem is the salt used on British roads! I rebuilt a '66 model in the UK in the early 80's, total rust bucket. Now living in a "Non-salt" state in the USA and we throw away cars with not a spec of rust. The same car in a "salt" will rust away like it does in Blighty.
That's very true the salt is a key enemy you're quite right. Everyone listen to Frankish !
Looking at a supposedly spotless 1980 black one. £15000 so not cheap. Any advice there? Low mileage good or bad?
Paul
15 grand ?for real? Its not the Richard Hammond one is it ???
Leak?
Ha. OK. I was always told mechanically they're easy to work on. So bodywork is key. Look for ripples, signs of rust in arches, pillars, water runs around the bonnet and boot. 15 grand for the 1500 engine seems a lot to me. it's more the provenance of it being Hammonds. Having been in both, I still prefer the pull of the 1275
Thanks Andy. What is a water run please?
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Just look in the seams of the boot lid where the hinges go. There's a bit of rubber that goes round it. Look in that recess, common places for rust all round the boot aperture
Almost bought one many years ago (would love one in a few years). Timing….
You won't regret it Mark. Promise !
I just got a near perfect 73 for $8,500. Seemed a bit much, but not many other options for the round arch near me.
You jammy wotsit! 8500, what's that in ye olde English money ?? Around 5 grand. Top work son, top work
@@AndysMGAdventures About 7,000, apparently. Just 3 years ago I swear these used to go for way less.
Yeah I hear they are holding value well, if not , going up. Still not sure how the classic market will go with EV coming thick and fast
@@AndysMGAdventures I have seen electric mg midgets... ;)
@@Hunter1st true..... but the sound.... THE SOUND MAN 🤣🤣🤣
Andy,you need to be on the BBC with your own car show,ccchhheeerrrsss
Haha yeah or a mental institute
I restored a 1973 oval wheel arch model. I painted it Porsche Red
I do love them in red!
What do you mean “when I’m 50?”is that a moto lita wheel? What diameter?
When I'm 50 years old. Oh I'm sure gonna be a bit creakier than I am now ! Yup it's a moto lita, I think it's a 13 inch
Thx 🤣
Andy what tyres do you recommend?
Tough question! All depends what people want. As I live in the UK, and it rains a fair amount, I was recommended a set of UniRoyal Rain Experts - they actually do a superb job I must say
Black and round.
look for oil leaks
install a "roll-cage"
you mean the "top"?
Eff me,great vid.
Cheers Mate!
I wish I had kept my mrk 2 midget, one point to stop the car being stolen install a petrol cut off valve in the boot. When you leave the car for a period just action the valve. The thief will not go very long distance !!!!
Great idea 💡
Nice, but if you want the same sort of experience with fewer oil leaks and fires, just get an old Miata.
But then you’d miss all the roadside sights that you can observe while making repairs!
Hahaha. I nearly did buy a Mark 1
Andy reminds me of a British Tony Stark
🤣 I'll take that , thank you!
Me watching this as i bought a 79 midget, for a 100usd
Did you? 🤣
I wouldn't let you sit on MY car!
Sounds like a farm tractor, accelerates like a tugboat, priced like a super car, crash survivability like a ninja bike, parts availability like a German U-boat.
Yeah, all that's too much to check and maintain for a normal person. I bought a 1985 Honda cruiser motorcycle instead. Everythings accessible and visible, and the less there, the less than can rust or break. And it gets the same 50 MPG as a Midget.
Oh, and at $1,000 US, it was about $19,000 cheaper than an MG Midget. Accelerates way faster too! Love it. Gets lots of comments. And it's got legit chorome spoked wheels like an MG TD!
Buuuuutttttttt looks cute
@@AndysMGAdventures For some reason they are way over priced in the United States. They want $20,000 US for any Midget any year. You can get a new 2022 car or a house trailer for that. My entire house only cost $10K.
Neptune's biscuits that's a lot of dosh! Why on earth so much... is that the case for all British classics ?
Motorcycles tend to get boring and uncomfortable after first 2 miles... rather put top down on V8 Midget and run coast to coast in USA... just as much fresh air... no bugs in teeth...
Don't get me wrong, also have the most beautiful motorcycle ever made: Suzuki Intruder 805cc V-Twin cruiser...
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@@BuzzLOLOL can I come and drive your v8 one? Lol . My dream car for 30 years is a v8 mustang ...
Often unclear how / where buyers fall in terms of midget vs mgb
Yeah I guess it's sportier handling vs more luxury cruiser
English quality
I’m 16 years old I just bought a 1500 midget love the thing to bits but I look a bit of a tit in it as I’m 6,3ft😂
Hahaha. 6ft 3 at 16?! Blooming eck !
I have the opposite problem--I'm 5 feet tall, so I have to sit on a pillow to see over the steering wheel. I've liked the Midget since I was in high school long, long ago. In fact, my HS boyfriend bought one because he knew I like them. Maybe someday I'll be able to get myself one; I'm just worried about maintenance and how much I should/would have to do myself. As a woman, I know I'm viewed as an easy mark by unscrupulous mechanics. 🙁
@@lisagd22 if you would want a good one that needs little (not none) but little maintenance I would go for one that is for about £4000-£5000 for a good rubber bumper car if you would want a Crome bumper car then about £6000-£7000 but make sure that the price is worth paying and Make sure there is minimal rust on the engine running smoothly and has a soft top if it has a soft top
@@mgmidgetsandme6647 No rubber bumpers for me! 😄 I was looking for fun at what's available within my specifications, and there's one that looks perfect for $6500, but it's 3000 miles away in California. It's really just a pipe dream; I need to put my money toward my meager retirement account.
You do whats right for you. Just remember though, you only live once! Unless you're in a bond movie
I owned a '73 Midget in an unattractive battle ship grey color. Here would be my BIG spots to check:
The sills on these car rust, often and badly. Since this is a unibody car, the quality of the sills is essential to having a safe car. They can be rebuilt, but there is a lot of grinding and welding involved.
Floor pans rust as fast as the sills. There are replacement parts for them also, think in the range of $300+ for the part. Grinding and welding are again needed for the repair.
In both cases, get the car in the air so you can see plainly what is going on under the car. Have that magnet ready so you can be sure you are not looking at cosmetic filler instead of good body work. While you are under there, like pointed out in the video, look at all the suspension points for rust of accident damage. These have lever shock absorbers. If they display oil leaks they will need to be rebuilt. In the front, those shocks are also the upper control arm for the suspension.
Check the carbs for function. It is the design from hell, if they have been miss adjusted sometime in their lives, spend the money on a specialist to make them right again.
You can down shift into first on a roll, but it requires knowing how to properly double clutch the transmission. Don't try it above 10 mph.
These engines are a breeze to work on and parts are widely available.
I would recommend the last of the 1275cc cars. All the proper updates and that great A35 engine that was used in Austin Minis and Formula Junior cars in the early 1960's.
This is the most fun you can have at 45 mph in a car. It is not a high speed cruiser. Speeds 65 mph and higher are thrilling for all the wrong reasons. Combining ancient suspension design with minimal tire to the road contact leads to some interesting wandering at speeds above 65.
Had I not grown as fat as I am, and had a back full of arthritis, I would have one today as a weekend toy. The one I had back around 1980 was my daily driver and it worked great for my 15 mile commute.
Keep in mind, if you are in America, these cars compared to an 18 wheeler is not a fair contest. If you buy one, immediately replace the horn with one that will actually get people's attention.
Read this guys!
Why don't they just remanufacture them!
Blooming good point. They're doing the 6r4 again!
@@AndysMGAdventures £295,000!😳 They're taking the piss.
I dunno.
Sell a few organs lol
@@AndysMGAdventures 😆
Jesus Christ this guy is British
Yup, I'm afraid so old boy
Why do you have to treat this like a big joke. It doesn’t need you to behave like an idiot.
Well when life throws you all sorts of curveballs, it's nice to be silly once in a while. Plenty of other videos out there my friend for you if you want something serious. 👍🏻
@@AndysMGAdventures you know, I’d like to apologise. I’ve been watching your videos and you have a unique way of explaining things very clearly. I’ve learnt a lot about the car and also to not be so judgmental. Please accept my apology. Regards. Steve w
@@stevewoodbridge5648 all water under the bridge matey, no problem at all. Best of luck with jobs on your motor!
Good video Andy but the tacky humour paled
Cheers Graham. Still finding my feet with video making and have toned down in future episodes . But thanks for the comment
Lucas electrics worst in the world.
You're not far off there lol
Just remember -- the MG Midget may be fun, but it has always been one of the least-reliable cars ever made!
I've been fortunate with mine for the last 5 years !
Rubbish, Fred!! The opposite, if anything - the 'Spridget' was just a 2-seater, sportier version of a Morris 1000, Austin A40 Farina, etc........ cars beloved of district nurses, etc., which HAD to start in the morning & be reliable! The A-series engine would rattle on indefinitely & the later Triumph unit wasn't too bad. Basic, simple British 'agricultural engineering'...
I know I've run five different ones, from a '63 Mk.1 to a couple of the 'rubber-bumpered' cars, over nearly 50yrs., as daily transport - winter & summer!!
Nonsense.
All the adlibs and extra attempts at comedy made this almost too cringey to finish watching :( I felt embarrassed for Andy during the entire video
Well thanks for your honesty Ethan 🙂
I too felt I over egged it. I'm still learning about making videos. So I'll tone it down next time
It’s called British Humour! I found his style and deliverance entertaining and informative. Not many can achieve both! More power to your elbow, Andy!!!
@@AndysMGAdventures I disagree! Your presentation style was both entertaining and informative! Lang may your lumb reek! Whatever that means!!!
Well. You've just swooped on in here and become my number 1 subscriber haha. Thanks Mike 😊
another so-called car expert trying to be funny
Thanks Joe. I don't call myself an expert. But thank you for your comment all the same sir