Johnson 60 Hp Stalling on Acceleration Why? THIS OLD OUTBOARD
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2023
- It's This Old Outboard. Why is my Johnson 60hp Stalling under load ?
Strange situation that's been happening more frequently. Get the Manual !
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My 1976 Johnson 75 hp. ‘Stinger’ has does the same thing. I have to touch the electric choke momentarily with throttle lever to take off. My motor was rebuilt top to bottom by an original Johnson dealership.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. When I hit the primer it wants to die. But similar issues. You may just have a link n sync issue. Carbs may be opening too late. Ignition spark doesn't have enough fuel to ignite, timing off just a hair. But again, it could be anything, but I would think with a factory rebuild hopefully it's something simple. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Another thing to try to help isolate the issue of the bulb going empty is unhook hose from motor, squeeze the bulb until firm and wait to see if it goes mushy after 20-30 min.
Thanks !
Some had jets to lean in midrange.
I worked at a dealership and had to install richer pilot and mid range jets on these back in 1980s an OMC recall warranty.
These were such good motors .
Unless it's water dirt in carbs or restricted fuel line or vent on tank air leak in fuel line etc if it just started doing that .
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. No its been getting more often over time. And yes, I went through the service bulletins with it but it was already done with the jets changed but they never changed the water indicator hose location to the top so I didn't bother with it either. I figured it ran all these years without an overheating problem why do it now. Thanks again !
Nice video - I am interested to see what you finally come up with as the cause of the bogging
You and me both! Thanks again !
More than likely something simple great videos I will see you in the next one 👍🤘
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When you pump the bulb,the arrows need to be vertical.The non return valves only work initially by gravity.
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Actually I read in a mercury manual once that the arrow should always be upper-right not just to prime only.....
Not sure if it's the problem but I'd put a set of composite reeds and reseal eng...always does wonders for the old engines....
Great job bother!
Much appreciated!
I had the same problem,it was a leak in the fuel line connecter.When I stopped the motor,the fuel was running back from the leak and emptying the fuelpipe. (air lock) With the primer,I found if the motor was inclined at an angle towards the boat (me) the fuel was not running into the engine but running out of the carb intake,so,no fuel getting into the carb.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Yes I'll be replacing all that! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
I found when using a plastic auxiliary tank your squeeze ball line needs a fuel demand valve on it. Pick one up and try it
And what Stan said too works
I'll check that out. Thanks !
That new rod works good. 😊 The new plugs helped somewhat. Some sort of fuel issue. Problem happens after engine heats up and then cools off a little. Plastic fuel pump flexing causing leak or gap in housing?
Thanks for the tips!
I’m having trouble out of my 40hp evinrude, it will start but will not idle, it bogs down when I accelerate, I have to feather it to get it going. I have cleaned carbs. My bulb doesn’t seem to get hard
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah I'm going through the same thing as you know. Big pain in the butt! Unfortunately there is no "one" answer to this problem.You just have to go through everything. I bought a new primer bulb, fuel line and connections for the tank. I always make my own. Hopefully that will help or maybe solve my problem. I got sidetracked moving but I'll be testing it soon. Thanks again & Good Luck!
I would replace the fuel pump with a oem one. secondly to fix your shifting/ throttle issues with the fast start, buy shorter cables for the boat. Makes everything more responsive. I had the same issue. Buy a better quality tank/ oem fuel line system too. Less faulty.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I can't get any shorter on my cables, they're just getting old I guess. Yeah I be replacing all that. Thanks again !
New gas tank & new fuel line. Had same issue a few years ago. 👍
Same here…would run great in the morning when cool. Then sitting in the blazing sun all day made it heat up and suck air. Replaced my line and bulb. Problem fixed!
Partially the same here. Distilled additives in fuel ate the backflow seals and the O-rings on a fitting.
Hey. Yeah its on my list! Thanks again !
So many possibilities did you put new needles and seats in the carbs leaky needle seat causing minor flooding not sealing when boat sits is common problem. Need to fix the reverse throttle response for that issue if possible. Had my share especially on multi carb engines years back...
Yes so many possibilities, big pain in the azz! Carbs were fresh when I put them on but it's been awhile. Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Well at least you know how to fix them so many dont and then we get some of those on Facebook and Craigslist cheap & we fix them,LOLL! Keeps us busy..
@@OutBoardTink62 Hahaha I've been saying that for years!
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 HAAAA!
could be anything... but I would first check for an air leak. my primer bulb kept going flat. I accidentally dropped the fuel hose while carrying the 3 gallon fuel tank to the boat. The plastic fuel fitting at the end of the hose hit the concrete causing a hairline crack that was not visible. That was where the air leak was. Weird... a real freak accident that took me a long time to figure out. Replaced the fuel fitting and the motor stopped stalling.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah its time to replace everything actually it's overdue. Thanks again !
Hey I had a problem with mine it was the primer bulb and the new gas gray line I changed everything out but I used the black gas line from advance auto then I had no problems after that hope it helps you out and got a question what rat-l-trap are you using catch you next time
Hey. Yeah I always build my own fuel line too! I believe that one was the blue/orange color, but they usually hit all colors, I think the rattle wakes them up! Thanks again !
I gotta try that Rat-L-Trap out when I feel better I'll get back on the water and don't use the gray EPA gas line the inside flattens but the outside doesn't hope you get your motor running like it was before
Best way to clear weeds is hit reverse then forward real quick
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I just had the same issues with my motor it ended up being a head gasket was letting combustion through but not leaking and I replaced the head gasket and the motor runs like a brand new motor now, but was having same symptoms thinking it was fuel, low bulb pressure bla bla
Compression check it thats how I found my issue
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I like what your saying! Might be time for a new one whether I need it or not. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Is it the shifting mechanism getting stuck at the motor? I took mine apart last year to clean it all up. Also, i had a primer bulb issue, so i literally used Plummer’s tape on all of the gas tank fittings, even the black plastic pieces-problem solved 😊
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. No my shifter seem the same, I'll have to try the tape. Thanks again !
Help- I have a 1990 60hp Johnson that is having trouble going into reverse. Model #
060TLESM. It will go into reverse out of water but not when in the water. Any suggestions on what it could be would be great. Thank you. Your videos are great btw.
Hey. Is this a motor you just got or you've had it and the problem just started. Maybe it needs the cable adjusted or the shift rod isn't screwed in/out enough. Or the clutch dog is going bad.? You can try and disconnect the cable and manually put it in reverse, then adjust the cable to that distance and see if that works. Is it making any clunking or grinding noises. Check the oil too. That's about all I can think of....
several videos ago you hit a vacuum leak on the fuel tank pickup tube. sounds like the same problem now.
Yeah, I seem to remember, it's been happening more frequently now. Thanks again !
Another thing The speed lever gives you little to no responce in my case the lever was just slipping over the cable ancore after tighting that up i now have all the way up. the way it was i onle had very little responce and had none till almost all the way up. she works perfect now
Same thing here. I need to dial mine in. Thanks !
Try the cheepest thing first replace the pumpup ball or stick a different fule line on it. The anti sifine check valve in the pump up ball mite not be closing and the fule is running back in the fule tank. But then again what do i know
Hey. Yeah I've been needing to replace the whole thing, fuel line/primer bulb. Finally got it done! Stay tuned !
Great advice about the FACTORY service manual! Cant agree more. But on to the motor: 1st lets make sure it really is getting fuel, and has adequate compression (possible the head will need to come off to examine cyl walls as skirts could be shot and not show up on compression tests). when it stalls, pull the plugs and see if they are bone dry. if they are, pull the air silencer cover off and squirt some premix into each cyl one by one and see how it reacts. if it pauses and then stalls, you know its ignition related. If not, its something in the carbs not sealing, float needle not sealing, blocked idle air orifice etc. or possibly your tank has an issue. if it is ignition related, usually heat soak (which is what you might have) is a bad stator but run through all DVA cranking voltage tests to be sure. The other possibility is its running warm. not hot, but warm enough (like over 165f) to cause heat soak issues. But a warning sign for me here is the piston skirts aka the motor acting up when warm. not necessarily something to worry about just yet, but keep that possibility in the back of your mind! cheers.
air silencer cover , not gasket haha
Hey. Oh it's getting fuel, when I bump the primer key it wants to die and fast. But I like your "heat soak" theory, like any motor the temperature rises after you cut it off. Something may be happening there as the temp goes up but I would think after sitting for 30+ minutes it would cool off some. Never have a problem while trolling, and I cut the motor off every time I catch a fish, it's only after I cut it off for awhile is when it starts happening. And it's just been getting worse over time. So stay tuned and we'll figure this thing out. Thanks again !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 hmm. well you are describing heat "soak" perfectly! it takes time for the fuel to vaporize just sitting there. the big V6 60 degree (and V4) have a vapor separator tank for just that reason. shouldn't be happening on this motor unless something else is going on. i have quite a few of these motors for sale and for parts. let me know if you need anything i ship parts all the time.
@@ct1762 cool. thx!
Pull your fuel filter off even if it looks clean and see if you can blow through it. I just ran into this exact thing today.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Mine turned out to be a weak fuel pump. Thanks again !
@THIS OLD OUTBOARD awesome I saw that video after this, and I ordered a new fuel pump before I got off the water yesterday should be here from Amazon in an hour or so and we are going to try her again this evening
I'm glad I watched this video because I ordered the newer style pump and had I not watched this I would be wondering why the new pump wasn't working because it was venting to atmosphere 😅
CDI. Need a power pack my friend. It’s on the way out. I have same motor. Worked sometimes.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! Nope! Try again. Or just watch the next episodes! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Sucks, we have basically two decent lakes here in metro Detroit, Michigan that I like, and the one lake has been not maintained over the past ten years and the weeds have grown way out of wack. Yet they still want more and more for an annual metro park pass. Weeds suck!
Wow! Thanks for tuning in!
All OMC motors have a suction fuel pump which will always make the primer bulb collapse and feel soft 100% of the time after you run them for a while.
Soft is the word you used, mushy is the word TOO used that it should be, but he said his gets 'flat', just air, which any user can tell the difference in between 'soft' and 'flat' over time and use.
I think I said "Squishy" ! Hahaha! Thanks guys!
collapse is a total fuel restriction. his is soft, which they would be if its clear.
@@ct1762 When fuel is running back from the outboard into the tank, due to the check valve not working on tank side of the bulb-then the bulb gets squisky/mushy. Still has some fuel in it but not like it should to have the pump pulling properly.
Fuel is not restricted, it's actually not being restricted enough by the check valve to stop it from flowing the wrong way.
Had a snowmobile behave like that when the weather was mild in the winter. Turns out it was just crappy fuel. (that ethanol crap in the fuel). Old engines aren't supposed to run on that crap. No problems when I quit using cheap ethanol blended car fuel. Nothing but 100 octane leaded fuel with a Seafoam additive.
Hey. Yeah I need to switch! Thanks for tuning in!
Plus when you’re using the ethanol gas, it destroys the inner lining of the fuel hose. An easy way to check is to cut about 2” off the fuel hose, then slice lengthwise. Ethanol makes the lining separate from the walls and break down. If the lining is failing, replace the hose with automotive grade fuel line, those don’t have a lining. To protect the auto fuel line from UV damage, cover with an auto wiring cover. Since the primer bulb empties, the issue may be the line going to the primer bulb….
Neighbor borrowed my tank and hose to test his outboard. After I got it back that outboard ran like crap. I began noticing the bulb was empty. I asked him what type of fuel he'd filled the tank back up with. He said the recreational like I told him at the station down the road. Asked if he'd put any additives in it like seafoam, stabilize, etc., no, but then said when he was using it on his outboard he'd put some of his home distilled hooch in the tank-he makes a gallon every few days, a drunk, believes hooch fixes everything-like he always does all his repaired outboards.
Damn hooch ate the backflow seals in the bulb and the O-rings where the hose snaps on that tank. Replaced the bulb, hose, seals on both fittings, and so far hasn't seemed to hurt the fuel pump, carb, or primer. Told him if he sells that outboard to buy his own fuel system, can't use mine.
That distilled crap-ethanol, methanol, hooch, etc. isn't good on fuel systems.
Hahaha! Wow! Craziest story I've heard in a long time! LMAO I bet you were pissed!
I'm guessing air leak somewhere in your fuel line. Do you have access to another fuel line with bulb to try? Possibly another tank to try? The old tanks would sometimes get holes in the pickup line.
What's Up Al! I've got 3 tanks. I'll be checking all that out. Thanks !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Not much, watching T.O.O. and waiting for winter to end up here in Wisconsin.
@@alcheckalski9716 i hate winter
Well, my first reaction would have been to upgrade to a hotter sparkplug since your bog/stall came about after prolonged trolling where fuel burning isn't that efficient but then... your symptoms tend to indicate that you are not just experiencing an engine that tries to clear its plugs on acceleration? You've got to be your methodical self here as you may not be dealing with a single issue ! The only sure thing is that we are going to get a series of interesting videos !!! Personnaly, I would start with checking the quality /moisture content of the fuel. Regards !
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! You never know what's gonna happen next !
vacuum leaks are worse after you idle and troll for a while and the plugs foul to
Yeah I usually blow it out after trolling but til I'm heading home. Thx!
Looks like winter haven, fl. Near the mcdonalds on the lake? Am i right?
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! It's Lake Fairview, Orlando. Thanks again !
Could be water in the carbs. Ethanol absorbs water from atmosphere and those older outboards were not designed for that type of fuel.
Thanks for tuning in. No, thank goodness there was no water in my tank.
I was trying to figure out why my 35 horse was bogging at full speed and recently revealed to my dismay that there was no issue, and taking apart the engine was a waste of time... Because my prop was just catching weeds in the lake, around this time of year the weeds in coon lake grow all the way to the surface regardless of depth. Im a moron heh.
Yeah the weeds are bad! Thanks for tuning in!
You need to open it up🕶
I do! I do! Hahaha Thanks again !
i had same issue and got lucky it was just bad primer ball.
Hey. Yeah I'm hoping the same thing! Thanks again !
I am surprised you need to even look at that manual. I mean you are like the boat motor whisperer and all.
Hahaha. Yeah I rarely ever open a manual, but I do have people asking me what could be the problem when its happening to them. I tell them, there is no "one" answer. And what may work for someone else may not work for them. So I thought it would be a good idea to crack open the manual and see what it says and it might help someone out. Thanks again for tuning in!
Flooding from primer solenoid ?
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. It tested good! Thanks again !
Did you drink a green ----uhhhh, adult beverage? 👍
Hahaha! I don't think I've ever had a green drink! Thanks for tuning in!
Damn ethanol in the gas is killing carbs and fuel lines those old one weren't designed for alcohol it makes everything hard and dry and attracts moisture. I went in with my brother and bought a 55 gallon drum of 100 octane ethanol free. It just makes everything run better but it was over $10 a gallon but he needed for his race motor 😢 Rip he crashed in bradenton while testing his boat
Wow. Sorry to hear that about your brother. I feel for you man.
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 Thanks he was testing on lake Damon and it flipped on him gotta enjoy the time God gives you. Appreciate your content always look forward to your posts 👍
@@randyyoung9892 Hey THX!
bad cylinder seal, because it only starts to let water into the cylinder when it's warm, so it starts to run bad

Hey. Thanks for tuning in. I believe Heat Soak was a factor but it wasn't the head gasket. Thanks again & stay tuned !
Dang 2 stroke lol
Haha! Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Same as a car engine, plugs, filters, timing...
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yes!
ignition component breaking down intermittently
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At 10min looks like u might have been in a weed patch
Yeah weeds are getting high and the water is getting low. We haven't had any rain in weeks! Thanks again !
U mean choke button right? not squeezing the primer ball when ur saying give it alittle more primer
I've got the same 60hp triple with power trim and tilt on my 89 Lund pro v 1700, Mines a tiller motor though.. awesome walleye boat for Saginaw bay/river walleye fishing
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Yes primer key switch button. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Looks to me like you have a fuel issue? Might be sucking more air than fuel when you throttle it up.
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Did you figure out the problem?
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. What worked for me was basically some routine maintenance. czcams.com/video/VCPFXJHKx-Y/video.html. Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Who trolls a 70hp anything.....get a little kicker motor.....BTW, nice bass
Me! Hahaha I'm getting too old to be lugging kickers around. Hahaha Thanks again !
Bad primer ball
It's on the list! thanks again !
Pretty sure I’ve got that same motor.
Hey Cliff. Thanks for tuning in!
We need to sit back.drink a beer smoke a hooter and think about.no what I mean vern
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@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 your a dam Kool dude.i love to hear you talk and laugh
😃 .I am in michigan and need some worm weather.send some up
@@iancameron198 thx
connect fuel line directly to pump
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@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 watch alot of your videos helped me alot im having same problem with my old 70 hp evinrude
sounds like bad coil ,running on one cylinder maybe when the coil gets hot
Hey. Anything's possible ! Thanks for tuning in!
Manual ain’t going to tell you what’s wrong with it
Hahaha! Thanks for tuning in. Doesn't hurt to look!