Hey remember that time Nora kept the secret that she could go back 2 the future for most of the season oh wait or how she should tell her father shes been hanging out with his greatest enemy who was also responsible for her grandmother's death
@@darthbullymaguire2072 yeah sure, so many people hate it that Endgame became the highest grossing film of all time. With Captain Marvel, Black Panther and all of the other Avengers films not far behind. You're clearly just hating on the thing people actually like because you're butthurt that everyone else has grown out of the painfully shitty Arrowverse.
Me when he was Arrow: okay, quite funny, I bet he'll be Flash. Me when he was Flash: I like that, but I know he won't go further. Me when he was Supergirl: The peak of humanity has been achieved. Me when he was Tom Welling: God is real.
Asian Nick Compton I’m so happy Watchmen turned out well- I was worried before episode 1 that it would never live up to the original comic, but I was reassured in the very first episode that this wasn’t the case.
@@AnarkyV2 Watchmen was only set for one season, Legion was only set for 3, Doom Patrol and the Boys have their second seasons coming out this year. Tf are you talking about
IZack Production same, but even then it sucks now after season 3, I hated the show and gave up watching it. I loved season 1 and 2 but season 3 was meh, beebo saved the show for me, but after it was shit. And this is the show that got me to watching arrow and flash
*Crossover announcement: Me: "Nope." *Brandon Routh as Kingdom Come Superman: Me: "😮...must resist!!" *Kevin Conroy as an older Bruce Wayne: Me: "😱😵...NOPE...CAN'T...DO THIS...!!" *Linda Carter Rumoured to join Parents: "WE'RE GOING IN!!" Me: "😬...MUST RESIST!!!" *Tom Welling returns to be Clark Kent: Me: ... ... ... 👁️ 👁️ 👄
Cunning Smile I just thought season four and five was not that good but seasons One two three was my favorite out of the arrow verse but these are just my opinions
Yep I loved the scientist, cause I'm a nerd and i basically know who Barry Allen is. But remember it was before the first season of the flash, before he gain his powers, so he was just a dude, a lot of people may not have recognized him and just forgot about the episode.
I mean not really since The Flash spun off from Arrow in that episode. That'd be like saying all of Sara's pre legends appearances are crossovers just because she is in the show now.
Abject Permanence Why did you think it ended? There was literally no indication that the show was ending. The brief appearance from the Monitor should have been enough to show that Legends is coming back.
Exactly, it was a practice run. Even the monitor told him to go bigger, as he had given this man the book for his own reasons. Now, if you're going to ask why the writers had him do this, that's a separate question.
Tuvya Maeir that is not a separate question. That is part of the main concern. Giving someone that much power should have been a delicate balance. Who is the bigger idiot, the 13 year old who crashes the car or the father that hands him the keys?
I don't know what the general consensus is on the motivations, but, the way I understood, the Monitor was handing out the book on different universes to the people who could cause the most harm, so that the biggest heroes would rise up
He's coming back as the Harrison Wells from Earth 18573. He's still the same character, but this time he has *x* quirky personality trait. Yay, we get to kill him off and bring back some new quirky version of the character next season.
I didn't star any season yet (not countig supergirl. Dunno if i survived even to the end of s2), cuz 1: kinda afraid it'll suck, and 2: don't want to wait all that time for new episodes... but man... didn't know that Tom Weilling is coming back... goodbye real world ;-;
@@Dhruv-qw7jf Sorry, I meant that I didn't start any of newest seasons yet. Only checked if legends are out already only to get dissapointed ;p Speaking of supergirl, I had very mixed feelings. I didn't mind a bit girlier approach (duh, woman protagonist will act as one xd) and actually I enjoyed that fresh take, but then it just became datey dramma. And I watched it mostly for that newspaper ceo (or sth, pardon me I forgot quite a bit already, especially names ;p) and Kerah's sister. First one left and latter from being badassy boss super agent became totally unable to make any decision crybaby. Like, I understand that people are more than one emotion etc. but that's totally diffrent character to me. Aand yeah, I enjoyed last Arrows and Flashes, few things turend not how I'd prefer them to, but generally huge thumbs up!
@@accidentalmadness1708 Then (not to overstep my brief) you *really* ought to change that CZcams-handle. (After all, Iris's line was DELIBERATE--- thus, your madness is *no longer* "accidental". {Q.E.D.}) 😉
All of Daredevil seasons were solid. Jessica Jones is good but an acquired taste. Luke Cage is alright. Iron Fist season 1 sucks, which made Defenders suck, but Iron Fist season 2 is better. Punisher is King but mostly because he acts like Wolverine, the number one marvel icon.
I think Punisher was the best because it was such a good representation of the comic book character. He got it spot on. He made the character his own and just made you believe he actually was this character
@@pufferplayz8030 I agree, they gave her a plot thread of her own and she's mainly been involved when she's pulled in by necessity. Not by contrivance.
In all fairness to elseworld, it has gone on record that it was more of a “recovery” event after earth-X, the writers were so burnt out after they almost ended the cross-overs entirely Edit: undershot it, it was the production crew/staff as a whole that got burnt out.
Whyte Chocolate my mistake on that one, I undershot it since it wasn’t just the writers that got burnt up but everyone according to Mark Guggenheim. The big production took its toll on the staff
It was stated very clearly what he wanted. They literally had kara and monitor say what he wanted just for people like you who dont pay attention then complain when you dont understand something
@@captainsprinkles6557 this is complaining that it wasn't clear what the anti monitor wanted. But firstly, he's not really that deep of a character to begin with. Secondly, we do know exactly what he wanted. Kara and the monitor specifically say what he wants. Frost asks what does this guy want and he tells them. And kara even goes on to say "just like every other megalomaniac" that's why. Anti-Monitor is evil. He's like the Green Goblin. There's not really a deep reason for why he's doing this.
@@anthonykerr3509 couldn't agree more with you, as someone who has had a very personal love of the flash since "negative" seeing the show take all of these beloved characters and themes and either underuse or misuse them in frustrating ways breaks my faith in the writers just that little bit more every week
I hate the fact they completely changed Barry Allen as a character on the show, hell even his supporting cast is not really them, god that show is a mess.
I second that, TBH the only reason why the first season was so janky was because of the Hydra twist from Winter Soldier.
Před 4 lety+4
It’s gotten so good, they’re putting the characters into their app game STRIKE Force. They our Agent Coulson in last month and he’s hella powerful. They’re putting Yo-Yo in this month. Proud of the actors.
thelinedrive I know you’re not joking, but it sure seems like it. I think this is one of the only shows I’ve watched where characters are hyper consistent and the show has next to 0 plot holes. I’ve never seen such amazing character development anywhere else. Do you have specific examples?
I don’t know how much of this is your real and true feelings and while I will say that I agree about past seasons but I will say that Arrow and Flash have both killed it so far this season I know it’s Arrow’s final one so that makes sense but Flash got a new show runner and I think the show has really turned around 😊☺️
Listen, there's only like 20 seasons of TV to watch altogether between all the shows. Yeah, each season is 20+ episodes and each episode is an hour with ads, but that's only like 400 hours altogether. It would only take you 10 weeks to watch it all if you quit a full time job and devoted those 40 hours a week to watching superheroes instead. Jesus.
@@AbjectPermanence Come on, usual shows seasons are like 22 episodes each, and LoT are 16 per year, also you can count one season of constantine, and supergirl is not really needed, because she is on another earth. So its 12 seasons of arrow+flash, +4 seasons of lot, + 4 seasons of supergirl constantine and half a season of batwoman and 2 other shows. It makes only 452 episodes, which is 452 hours only if you watch it on TV, actually this is merely 300 hours.
Fans: When will flash from earth 9- Cw: Well crisis... Fans: Will arrow from earth 2- Cw: Died in crisis... Fans: SUPE- Cw: THIS IS OUR BACKDOOR SO LETS JUST- Fans: use crisis? Cw: yas
lambusado they’re gonna try an all female led show with Kat as the new green arrow in the future. I’m excited for that even though it’ll only last one season
Spider Paste Things take getting used to. You’ll get used to The Flash being good after awhile. *Note that this a joke. I understand that you didn’t actually like the new season and that is fine
To be fair with this video, thats how I felt about Flash season 5. But Season 6 has been pretty good so far, not perfect but I at least enjoy watching it.
@@Nuigi12Agreed. Props to them for deciding to do multiple story arcs and villains instead of stretching out a baddie the whole season until they lose their potency.
I don’t give a shit what anyone in these comments says, the CW DC shows are fun to watch even if they’re not the best So sorry for being hyped for Crisis, didnt know i wasnt allowed to be
It's not as fun as it used to be.......I watched flash S3,s4,s5 every week for the past 3 years....The show got more predictable as time went on.....The extras can't act for shit and sitting through the inconsistency (ie time travel) is excruciatingly painful....Why watch the arrow verse when you got the boys,doom patrol, watchmen,and now animated harley Quinn which is so not formulaic like those shows......
Isnt kind of ironic that crisis turned out to be a really good crossover, (for the most part. Part 5 is a bit unrefined) my favorite part was ezra Miller showing up. That was really cool to see
I know I gave up the flash because of all the repeated mistakes and excessive fan service with not a lot of actual material during the show and crossovers. Yet here I am watching crisis. So far exactly what I expected
Glad to see Tom Welling and Smallville getting more love. While the show does deserve some of the flak it gets for its later seasons, the first five were great and made some cool changes to Superman lore that I think the comics were, or would be smart to implement - namely, the meteor shower that hid Kal-El's rocket, Clark and Lex's tragic friendship, streamlining the Kryptonite lore, and Lionel Luthor. Also, it gave us the best depiction of Jonathan Kent.
I was agreeing with everything in this video (I still watch Flash and Arrow even though everything you say about it is true) but then you ended it with Smallville being what brings you in? Smallville was the original comic show that should have been great but fell into trope after trope and never reached a third of its potential. I couldn't even hate watch that show by the 4th season. And I get that its loved and many people will disagree with me, I just find it odd that someone who is so like minded about the Arrowverse sees Smallville so differently
Sorrry dude it just set the standard were to biased and frankly every season of smallvile for me was awesome I actually never bored or tired in any episode ... I feel bored now watching the arrowverse which is unfair to compare the two but idk that’s just me and like u said U don’t have to agree with me and some may understand others may not but we all got our opinions and preferences u know
After the mention of Stephen Amell's abs, I thought the idea was that he watched because Tom Welling is hot, rather than it being anything to do with the quality of Smallville.
I agree with this, I never really understood the hype about Smallville's later seasons. I think it was a novel idea and casting was awesome, but it never lived up to its potential.
@@cosmicmaster1006 what no. They’re getting too worn out and boring. Which is why all of them are ending. They’ve run out of ideas. Sure they were great when they first came out but you can only repeat the same formula so many times. And let’s be honest, every time someone said crisis in flash it just became annoying
@@dishonesthonest1327 their not ALL ending. Supergirl and arrow are ending because its the right time. Idk why black Lightning is ending. But Flash, Legends, Batwoman are still going and now were getting Superman & Lois. Ok what exactly is wrong with them saying crisis. Its not like they've been building to it since the very first episode of the show or anything. And ok so its ok when the mcu does their formula but when the arrowverse does it its suddenly boring. *cough* double standard *cough*. Also they are not running out of ideas. They have tons of ideas left. And im just gonna say it now, their better then those shit marvel Netflix series. The only good marvel Netflix series was daredevil
@@cosmicmaster1006 It was because of the low ratings season 3 had, even tho Season 3 was amazing, and because of other certain reasons with the streaming wars and its deal with other platforms. I hope season 4 can give the ending and love this show deserved since season 1 ended.
JustNobody ik right? It was going to be the dream! A live action Kevin Conroy Batman?!? Freaking awesome!! But then they turned him into a psychotic alienphobic asshat just to prove that Batwoman is stronger than Batman, why?
@@kinghobothe4th837 I honestly don't mind Batman killing Superman since that was a Batman who fell from his code. But I honestly thought we would have gotten Kevin longer and as an actual paragon like Kingdom Come Superman that how they fucking killed him off just to make Batwoman the paragon of courage. Was really hoping to see seven multiverse heroes as the paragons. Instead they just happen to come from the arrowverse.
@@kinghobothe4th837 Please, I wish she was a mary sue, then I could say she was cool if I don't think about. Batwoman is just bad, it just screams "I'm a woman, and I can do no wrong"
Just started watching Smallville and I can agree with the Tom Welling bit Edit: ive been watching for two weeks and Im on season 3. Easily my fav show. Love Michael and Tom'a chemistry and writing
I watched it every night that it aired from episode 1- the finale. I've watched it countless times since and let me tell you, it puts the DC shows now a days to shame.
The very next Flash episode that came out after Elseworlds was called "The Flash and the Furious." I think that pretty much sums the Arrowverse's decline
"Nazis man ... best badguys ever."
Well done, grandpa, well done.
Cobalt tru
Ok millenial XD
Cobalt why
Were here to do one thing and one thing only. Killing Natzis
i know right. the worst enemy is the one in the mirror .
CW: "... *TOM WELLING* "
Me: "Uh oh, sorry spare time."
I’m so excited for Tom tbh
Tom well not be in it for long I think
Super Assassin you are right
@BaKu wiTSaUcE he was only in vancouver for 2 days so he's only in max 3 scenes
@BaKu wiTSaUcE He definitely won't play big role, just a filler one.
“90% of their characters’ interpersonal conflicts are caused by one person keeping a secret from everybody else”
Sooo true 😂😂😂
#arrowverse /star wars mc2 *intensifies*
Kaitlyn Snow 🙄🙄🙄
@@darthbullymaguire2072 jeez somebody hates mcu
Hey remember that time Nora kept the secret that she could go back 2 the future for most of the season oh wait or how she should tell her father shes been hanging out with his greatest enemy who was also responsible for her grandmother's death
@@darthbullymaguire2072 yeah sure, so many people hate it that Endgame became the highest grossing film of all time. With Captain Marvel, Black Panther and all of the other Avengers films not far behind.
You're clearly just hating on the thing people actually like because you're butthurt that everyone else has grown out of the painfully shitty Arrowverse.
Imagine this guy’s reaction when he realized Tom Welling was there for just 4 minutes...😅
And did literally nothing
Milo well he did punch lex
4 minutes is better than nothing
Agreed, i normally dont get past 2 minutes... oh wait we are talking about the crossover? Ignore me...
And let's not talk about Kevin Conroy and how long he was in it *cough* Fuck Batwoman *cough*
Yeah. Tom Welling got me
He got all of us
And me
And meeeeeee!!!!!
U notch man?
How can I meet you guys..I would travel and I hate travel but for you I will. You deserve more love than you getting
That identity crisis joke was so hilariously bad and funny lmao
Just like actual Identity Crisis.
The Medicus haha yes
Timothy Augello at the end
I feel like this is something they might actually say during this crossover.
When the whole warp zone gang is on vacation and only Davis is at the office
Wait, Rip Hunter is Count Dooku?
CW: Tom Welling is back
Me: Somebody save me....🎶
from watching this crossover
I can't control myself!
“And even more Cross-over-y than last year.” Lol
I mean, it's not wrong.
Me when he was Arrow: okay, quite funny, I bet he'll be Flash.
Me when he was Flash: I like that, but I know he won't go further.
Me when he was Supergirl: The peak of humanity has been achieved.
Me when he was Tom Welling: God is real.
"The Boys, Watchmen, Legion, Doom Patrol," you got very good taste Warp Zone.
Asian Nick Compton I’m so happy Watchmen turned out well- I was worried before episode 1 that it would never live up to the original comic, but I was reassured in the very first episode that this wasn’t the case.
@@spengler2258 Yea I was cautiously optimistic until I saw it and then all my doubts went away.
I’ve only kept up with watchmen
I wouldn't take inspiration from show that all got cancelled or are in production hell
@@AnarkyV2 Watchmen was only set for one season, Legion was only set for 3, Doom Patrol and the Boys have their second seasons coming out this year. Tf are you talking about
"Except for Legends of Tomorrow of course, which is quirky and wonderful and deserves more love"
THANK YOU.
The show that got me into the arrowverse
Yess
IZack Production same, but even then it sucks now after season 3, I hated the show and gave up watching it. I loved season 1 and 2 but season 3 was meh, beebo saved the show for me, but after it was shit. And this is the show that got me to watching arrow and flash
@@Tradetek1 season 3 was there best season wtf are you talking about 😂😂
Legends of Tommorrow has to be one of my favorite shows of all time💙
Tooooom Welling... TOOOOOOM Welling...
Also Toooom Ellis... TOOOOOOOM ELLIS! 😂
Austin Blackwell We have to give love to good old Luci
Somebody saaaaaaaaaaaave meeee!!!
TOM CAVANNAGH TOM CAVANAGH TOM CAVANGH
Austin Blackwell tooom ELISS TOOOM ELLIS!!
Marvel's Face: RDJ
DC's Face: Stephen Amell
The Warp Zone's Face: Davis
DCEU face: Batfleck
Everyone needs a face.
Liber Polo *well..... yeah....*
Fuwu duh! Franchise speaking!
*no but literally .. everyone needs a face.*
5:52
He should have shouted: " SOMEBODY SAAAAAVE ME!" 😂😂
Only smallville fans will understand
Yes!!
*Crossover announcement:
Me: "Nope."
*Brandon Routh as Kingdom Come Superman:
Me: "😮...must resist!!"
*Kevin Conroy as an older Bruce Wayne:
Me: "😱😵...NOPE...CAN'T...DO THIS...!!"
*Linda Carter Rumoured to join
Parents: "WE'RE GOING IN!!"
Me: "😬...MUST RESIST!!!"
*Tom Welling returns to be Clark Kent:
Me:
...
...
...
👁️ 👁️
👄
Jorge G. Figueroa *G O D I S R E A L*
God yeah I can’t wait for the crisis.
Don't forget Burt Ward!
Also a lot of characters has been kept secret
And Welling ended up only being there for like 3 mins lol
But Rouths Superman was the legit best part
- It's bigger than lost year , longer than last year
me : and more uncut ?
- more crossovery
Lol I wasn't the only one thinking that
flying horse
South Park is far from my mind right now for me to not have thought that.
flying horse last year*
Nice dick joke
Uncut? Sexx Luthor is here, guys and girls!
That legends of tomorrow comment made me smile.
Cuz it's true.
The Legends are back! Whether you want them or not!
Cunning Smile I do want them 🤨
I do like legends but only the The first three seasons
@@benlopez4449 heat gun starting up noise.
"Only the first three?"
Cunning Smile I just thought season four and five was not that good but seasons One two three was my favorite out of the arrow verse but these are just my opinions
"First ever crossover." Talks about Flash VS Arrow. Technically the first crossover was the scientist and the three ghosts
Yep I loved the scientist, cause I'm a nerd and i basically know who Barry Allen is. But remember it was before the first season of the flash, before he gain his powers, so he was just a dude, a lot of people may not have recognized him and just forgot about the episode.
I mean not really since The Flash spun off from Arrow in that episode. That'd be like saying all of Sara's pre legends appearances are crossovers just because she is in the show now.
Happy to know I'm not the only who thinks Legends is underrated
*IS TERRIBLE*
Arc Trooper Rod 269 that’s just your opinion i think Legends is underrated too
Awesome Lego Things is it actually good? I dunno if I wanna get back into it, the first season of the show just didn’t been get me
I think it's great! It really does deserve way more love than its been getting.
moki First season is bad, but after Nate comes in, it gets better
Get a like just for the Legends of Tomorrow shout out.
I actually thought the show ended last season. I had my mind blown earlier this week when I realized it was coming back soon.
Abject Permanence
Why did you think it ended? There was literally no indication that the show was ending. The brief appearance from the Monitor should have been enough to show that Legends is coming back.
@@Homeboy_Brando I actually thought it did to
Legends has not had a bad season
Jax Serkies
But why?
At the end, when he’s watching it, all that came to mind,
He Has Failed this video.
Actually on Elseworlds he stated that switch Oliver and Barry life’s was a mistake because he was still fairly new to using the book.
Exactly, it was a practice run. Even the monitor told him to go bigger, as he had given this man the book for his own reasons. Now, if you're going to ask why the writers had him do this, that's a separate question.
Still didnt explain why he only used once before monitor tell hin to
@@keyboardtaskforcephi-3689 He was nervous about power and a very petty man. Monitor called him out.
Tuvya Maeir that is not a separate question. That is part of the main concern. Giving someone that much power should have been a delicate balance. Who is the bigger idiot, the 13 year old who crashes the car or the father that hands him the keys?
I don't know what the general consensus is on the motivations, but, the way I understood, the Monitor was handing out the book on different universes to the people who could cause the most harm, so that the biggest heroes would rise up
To be honest, Tom Welling's cameo might have been my favorite part so far.
Absolutely! My favorite part as well.
Me: if he does Supergirl next Imma die
Him: does Supergirl and then all of them
Me: dies😂😂
Yes, is all I have to say, YES😂
SUPERGIRL44 that’s exactly what I thought
I want to bang supergirl
@@tonyacosta4574 i-
@@tonyacosta4574 boi
@@tonyacosta4574 Uhh
“God forbid Tom Cavanagh get a new job”
😂😂😂
He's coming back as the Harrison Wells from Earth 18573. He's still the same character, but this time he has *x* quirky personality trait. Yay, we get to kill him off and bring back some new quirky version of the character next season.
@@Demolition89336 Well, he's also the only actor in those shows good enough to keep being a new character every season.
He is the greatest! I mean.. he plays 1 trillion other characters as the same character...It's like wellsception of some sort
The actor is good, but they shouldn't make his character too stereotypical nowadays. It's getting annoying.
This video captures the conflict in my heart exactly
I didn't star any season yet (not countig supergirl. Dunno if i survived even to the end of s2), cuz 1: kinda afraid it'll suck, and 2: don't want to wait all that time for new episodes... but man... didn't know that Tom Weilling is coming back... goodbye real world ;-;
SAME
@@karolfortuna8522 hasn't watched Arrow or Flash's Seasons 1 and 2?
@@Dhruv-qw7jf Sorry, I meant that I didn't start any of newest seasons yet. Only checked if legends are out already only to get dissapointed ;p
Speaking of supergirl, I had very mixed feelings. I didn't mind a bit girlier approach (duh, woman protagonist will act as one xd) and actually I enjoyed that fresh take, but then it just became datey dramma. And I watched it mostly for that newspaper ceo (or sth, pardon me I forgot quite a bit already, especially names ;p) and Kerah's sister. First one left and latter from being badassy boss super agent became totally unable to make any decision crybaby. Like, I understand that people are more than one emotion etc. but that's totally diffrent character to me.
Aand yeah, I enjoyed last Arrows and Flashes, few things turend not how I'd prefer them to, but generally huge thumbs up!
CW: New crossover is comming
Me: yeah, no thanks
CW: Tom Welling back
Me: Shut up and take my time
I said the same damn thing too
cw: new crossover this year
me: nah, im good
cw: kevin conroy playing a live action bruce wayne
me: sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. im in
@@keyblader2k6 don't forget micheal keaton as batman returning
keyblader2k6 yup that was me lol
Enigmatic being I don’t think Michael is returning, I heard it was just an Easter egg
“I even sat through Birds of Prey when it aired”
Me watching Crisis Pt. 3: *sad music plays*
Birds of Prey show right?
he's right Legends doesn't deserve the hate it gets
Nah it does
souljaboyisbad BLASPHEMY!!! ✝️
@@souljaboyisbad it doesn't and you know it.
@@souljaboyisbad explain
It used to be a serious show but now all they do is send creature to hell.......
I'm so happy that you acknowledge that Legends of Tomorrow deserves more praise
Arelious no, no it does not
@@avaa4997 Why doesn't it?
yeah at the beginning when he said that all the arrowverse shows flopped year after year. You can't do that to lot
@@avaa4997 it's the only one of the shows I still like (given I haven't seen anything after season 3 because it's not on prime yet )
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 s4 is shite lol and they make the most hatable characters on the main team
My inner fanboy died on “we are the Flash”. I tried to save him but I there was nothing I could do.
same, kills me every time lol.
That line drove me insane
@@accidentalmadness1708
Then (not to overstep my brief) you *really* ought to change that CZcams-handle.
(After all, Iris's line was DELIBERATE--- thus, your madness is *no longer* "accidental". {Q.E.D.})
😉
Davis: Arrowverse writing is becoming stale and repeating the same ideas.
Also Davis: TOM WELLING, TOM WELLING!
Love legends of tomorrow. Their version of Damien Dark is amazing. I can't hear 'return of the mack' without thinking about him.
Same!!
Facts tho
I feel personally attacked. The last line killed me
"Oh, you poor zombie! (That must've been a TERRIBLE way to die.)"
😉
--- Ted Glick.
Seriously Legends is the only show that actually still kills the bad guys
Does Arrow not do that anymore?
Yuya Sakaki it depends on his mood lol he literally goes back and forth
@@nolandavis1129 only when the plot decides he's suddenly okay with it
@@nolandavis1129 only when a nazi comes to town
Flash decides to erase them instead. And I don't know what the f*** happens to Supergirl since I don't watch much of it anymore
"Somebody saaaaaaaave meeeeeee"
Do you care how I do it?
@@ROMTHIRTY nope the stage is all yours
@Whyte Chocolate smallville
@@madhumanti7407 I'll stay..... stay with you.
@@ROMTHIRTY dude!😂
Started chanting TOM WELLING with you.
“Except for legends of tomorrow which is quirky and wonderful and deserves more love”
PREACH
“Some of the Marvel Netflix shows”
*The Punisher is definitely one of em*
and Daredevil
First Jessica Jones season
Season 1. Season 2 was kinda boring for me. Don't get me wrong, Jon Bernthal still nails the character, but it just felt like a writing downgrade.
Daredevil, punisher’s first season only, most of Luke Cage, first season of Jessica Jones. That would about cover it.
@@thelinedrive not season 2 of Daredevil. All the stuff to do with the hand ruined it.
"some of the Marvel Netflix shows"
Lmao if that ain't the truth
Daredevil Season 1 was good. Punisher was amazing and so was Jessica Jones
Miklo King but Luke cage and iron fist were ... uhhh
daredevil is easily the best superhero show so far
All of Daredevil seasons were solid. Jessica Jones is good but an acquired taste. Luke Cage is alright. Iron Fist season 1 sucks, which made Defenders suck, but Iron Fist season 2 is better. Punisher is King but mostly because he acts like Wolverine, the number one marvel icon.
I think Punisher was the best because it was such a good representation of the comic book character. He got it spot on. He made the character his own and just made you believe he actually was this character
To be fair the current seasons of the Flash and Arrow are really good
And for Arrow, that's actually a change of pace given the last 3 years
Is Iris still in the show?
Christian Black Yeah, but she isn’t involved with team flash stuff nearly as much, her character is way better.
@@pufferplayz8030 I agree, they gave her a plot thread of her own and she's mainly been involved when she's pulled in by necessity. Not by contrivance.
Nah the recent episode of Flash was pretty good but the ones before were lame
"Favorite Superheroes in live action"
Where's Animal Man?
I thought was the only one. You're like me ... ANIMAL MAN FANS RISE UP!
Grant Morrison made me like Animal Man.
Aren't you in the Arrowverse Discord server?
@@felixtatang414 Perhaps
Wait till the DC Universe App
That Lucifer cameo though...
Is it weird I want to see more of him, especially in legends. I think he’ll suit legends
The comedy and writing on this video was top-notch 🤣
In all fairness to elseworld, it has gone on record that it was more of a “recovery” event after earth-X, the writers were so burnt out after they almost ended the cross-overs entirely
Edit: undershot it, it was the production crew/staff as a whole that got burnt out.
Whyte Chocolate my mistake on that one, I undershot it since it wasn’t just the writers that got burnt up but everyone according to Mark Guggenheim. The big production took its toll on the staff
plus decon did state they were swaped cause he had no idea how to use the book properly
@@TheJthedog But aren't their crossovers like a year apart?
Burnt out wtf it’s not like there writing is top tier it’s below average at best
Will D. Skies yeah but Earth-X’s production was high tier enough that it hit the “why sequels take a year or two” levels
Finally someone else who likes legends of tomorrow (it’s my favorite arrow verse show).
I loved seasons 2 and 3 but 4 went completely to shit
Connor Clarke season 4 is my favorite
@@bigd4941 interesting opinion. Haven't heard anyone with season 4 as their fave before.
Love Legends of Tomorrow! 😊
Same
Lmao it was cute pretending green arrow was a threat to flash 😂
3:50
Legends does deserve more love. It's such a great show!
Wow, the Anti-Monitor was as epic as Thanos!!! .......said absolutely no one because it wasn't really clear who he was or what he wanted or why.
It was stated very clearly what he wanted. They literally had kara and monitor say what he wanted just for people like you who dont pay attention then complain when you dont understand something
@@cosmicmaster1006 You uh... care to elaborate? I know it's been a year, but I hope you still remember
@@captainsprinkles6557 this is complaining that it wasn't clear what the anti monitor wanted. But firstly, he's not really that deep of a character to begin with. Secondly, we do know exactly what he wanted. Kara and the monitor specifically say what he wants. Frost asks what does this guy want and he tells them. And kara even goes on to say "just like every other megalomaniac" that's why. Anti-Monitor is evil. He's like the Green Goblin. There's not really a deep reason for why he's doing this.
Lol. And Thanos is just a watered down version of Darkseid.
Legends of tomorrow is my favourite show, I'm so happy it got acknowledged like that, can we get LoT recap rap soon
It’s the only one I haven’t given up faith in. The arrow verse never seems to get what we love about these comics. It makes me sad.
@@anthonykerr3509 couldn't agree more with you, as someone who has had a very personal love of the flash since "negative" seeing the show take all of these beloved characters and themes and either underuse or misuse them in frustrating ways breaks my faith in the writers just that little bit more every week
I hate the fact they completely changed Barry Allen as a character on the show, hell even his supporting cast is not really them, god that show is a mess.
@@Patrick-pc3vq It's lacking the energy, hope and creativity of the flash comics
@@j.athbheochan5610 Exactly, Flash is my favourite superhero yet i don't care at all about his CW show because it's a Flash show only in the name.
4:50 Once again, Agents of SHIELD has been sadly ignored.
That show died like the Spider-Man brand is doing now
@@ekezthesecond7856 it REALLY didn't
@@King_Dragmire it's really good.
@@thespectaculargamernerd8114 damn straight. It's my favorite show. I was super happy with how it ended.
@@King_Dragmire Waiting for season 7 on netflix or Disney plus. I watched seasons 5 and 6 and was surprised by them
I'm glad Legends gets some love here. I still love that show
He's going to be so disappointed when he sees the Tom Welling clip 😂😂😂😂😂
I think anyone who gave Agents of Shield a shot can agree that it’s some of the best comic book tv show content we have ever received.
I second that, TBH the only reason why the first season was so janky was because of the Hydra twist from Winter Soldier.
It’s gotten so good, they’re putting the characters into their app game STRIKE Force. They our Agent Coulson in last month and he’s hella powerful. They’re putting Yo-Yo in this month. Proud of the actors.
Couch cough Daredevil cough cough
No, inconsistent characters and time skips with no explanation as to why. After season 1 I was out after the season 2 premiere
thelinedrive I know you’re not joking, but it sure seems like it. I think this is one of the only shows I’ve watched where characters are hyper consistent and the show has next to 0 plot holes. I’ve never seen such amazing character development anywhere else. Do you have specific examples?
Yo,I’ve literally been watching since season 1 of flash
Same
Same man
I mean it all started with Arrow, but I also saw the flash first.
@@Juan_x_Pedro I only really watch flash, but I kinda keep up with Arrow I watch scenes
Same here though I have been keeping track of Supergirl from time to time
I don’t know how much of this is your real and true feelings and while I will say that I agree about past seasons but I will say that Arrow and Flash have both killed it so far this season I know it’s Arrow’s final one so that makes sense but Flash got a new show runner and I think the show has really turned around 😊☺️
i dont care what people say i still enjoy the Arrowverse
Yeah
Same here
Yay other arrowverse buddies
My brethren, we shall watch Crisis with great interest!
Yep same
“I’m just out of the arrow verse now”
Wait how did he just describe me after Nora died...
So...you wanted Nora to stay? Or at least stay alive?
DEATHSTROKE no, that’s just around the time I lost interest, it was also getting confusing
@@imayeti.4674 must read comics for most of time travel stuff on the Flash to make sense.
Nora killed it for me. Not that I wasn’t already on the verge of giving it up after season 3 and 4 but season 5 was the last straw
Takumifuji86 yeah, season 5 sucked
Uncertain about the crossover but loving the Legends - literally me lol
I'm here solely for legends of tomorrow. Pretty much it.
Who?
Legends stopped being good after season 2 in my opinion. The only one I still watch by this point is the flash
@@henith7850 legends only found its footing in season 2, season 3 is where they started running.
Henry Smith Flash has sucked since season 3 season 6 is not bad so far
My sister trying to introduce me into the arrowverse and me xD
Listen, there's only like 20 seasons of TV to watch altogether between all the shows. Yeah, each season is 20+ episodes and each episode is an hour with ads, but that's only like 400 hours altogether. It would only take you 10 weeks to watch it all if you quit a full time job and devoted those 40 hours a week to watching superheroes instead. Jesus.
Abject Permanence Well, is not that bad If you put it like that xD
Sinimeg Zaltana Debska I promise you it is good! At least watch the Crisis crossover with her! It could be a time y’all share forever
@@AbjectPermanence Come on, usual shows seasons are like 22 episodes each, and LoT are 16 per year, also you can count one season of constantine, and supergirl is not really needed, because she is on another earth. So its 12 seasons of arrow+flash, +4 seasons of lot, + 4 seasons of supergirl constantine and half a season of batwoman and 2 other shows. It makes only 452 episodes, which is 452 hours only if you watch it on TV, actually this is merely 300 hours.
Pick what shows you like, it’s easy to fill in the gaps. I haven’t watched any supergirl.
Fans: When will flash from earth 9-
Cw: Well crisis...
Fans: Will arrow from earth 2-
Cw: Died in crisis...
Fans: SUPE-
Cw: THIS IS OUR BACKDOOR SO LETS JUST-
Fans: use crisis?
Cw: yas
Sup is gonna replace arrow next year
Whoever said they existed in the first place
lambusado they’re gonna try an all female led show with Kat as the new green arrow in the future. I’m excited for that even though it’ll only last one season
Does anybody kinda miss Davis' long hair?
Tytarion Daggeron every day
Me
I know this is a skit but this season of the flash,arrow and supergirl have been actually really good but flash has been amazing
This new Flash season was the best for one VERY good reason. Barry Allen figured something out on his own without being told anything.
I thought everything after the mid season finale was ass
Spider Paste Things take getting used to. You’ll get used to The Flash being good after awhile.
*Note that this a joke. I understand that you didn’t actually like the new season and that is fine
To be fair with this video, thats how I felt about Flash season 5. But Season 6 has been pretty good so far, not perfect but I at least enjoy watching it.
@Whyte Chocolate I agree, but 4 still had the best suit imo
Bloodwork has definitely been a way better villain than Devoe and Cicada. That last episode was amazing!
@@darthbaldi4375 Yea
@@Nuigi12Agreed. Props to them for deciding to do multiple story arcs and villains instead of stretching out a baddie the whole season until they lose their potency.
@@briancarter8490 true
Yup! Glad someone other than me recognize how quirky and wonderful the Legends are 😭 some episode brings me to tears and lots of joy.
Crisis on infinite earth's
Me:
Super smash bros
Me: YES PLEASE
Respect for loving Tom Welling as much as I do, I never thought the hype over him is still alive. thank you!
If i close my eyes all i hear is stephen amell, you sound just like him😂
I like legend's of tomorrow
It's so ass
Francesco Gatti ikr. Basically all of these shows in a nutshell *cough* *cough* BATWOMAN
No
Yep, I like how it’s kinda random fun stuff and not stupid interpersonal relationship drama for half a season
The only arrowverse show I'm still watching. So much with Davis on it 😂
I don’t give a shit what anyone in these comments says, the CW DC shows are fun to watch even if they’re not the best
So sorry for being hyped for Crisis, didnt know i wasnt allowed to be
We can be hyped together.
I'm with you I cant wait for crisis
All the shows are pretty mediocre
Expect for the flash this season
The episodes have increased in quality
It's not as fun as it used to be.......I watched flash S3,s4,s5 every week for the past 3 years....The show got more predictable as time went on.....The extras can't act for shit and sitting through the inconsistency (ie time travel) is excruciatingly painful....Why watch the arrow verse when you got the boys,doom patrol, watchmen,and now animated harley Quinn which is so not formulaic like those shows......
Yea and the flash might have its best ever villain bloodwork if they do him right.
They baited us all.
Who here is mad that Tom welling won’t be wearing his Superman outfit and will have little screen time?
well... at least he got to punch two lex luthors in his lifetime.
@@renriquez1994 yeah but this lex is nothing compare to smallvill lex Luther now that was a real lex luthor.
Isnt kind of ironic that crisis turned out to be a really good crossover, (for the most part. Part 5 is a bit unrefined) my favorite part was ezra Miller showing up. That was really cool to see
I like how you are saying what literally everyone is thinking
I know I gave up the flash because of all the repeated mistakes and excessive fan service with not a lot of actual material during the show and crossovers. Yet here I am watching crisis. So far exactly what I expected
I bet a person who works at the cw is watching this
Well, Deegan accidentally “Freaky Friday or quantum leap” them trying to become The Flash.
Glad to see Tom Welling and Smallville getting more love. While the show does deserve some of the flak it gets for its later seasons, the first five were great and made some cool changes to Superman lore that I think the comics were, or would be smart to implement - namely, the meteor shower that hid Kal-El's rocket, Clark and Lex's tragic friendship, streamlining the Kryptonite lore, and Lionel Luthor. Also, it gave us the best depiction of Jonathan Kent.
I can't wait for Tom Welling's 30 second cameo.
Actually the Crisis has been good so far.
For me its kinda meh
Tanoshi of M it was medicore and ended okay
Okay but season 6 of the flash has been pretty top notch.
Yeah arguably the best start to a season ever. If it continues, this will probably be the best season yet.
@@ImTheReverse my favorite season is S2 but I think at this rate this season could top it.
@@brodyman30 yeah its been insanely good so far!
How could they joke Davis is average looking?? That man is beautiful INSIDE AND OUT! I will now start a public outcry of this injustice
Yes seconded
S'true, you are pretty, Davis. Also this video is excellently done.
Oh my God, this is hitting so close to home!!! Especially the rant about Elseworlds, and that little bit about Legends.
0:11 you should’ve put....” Has 4 times as many commercials as last year”
"" 1 person keepimg a secret cawsing emotional problems for the rest ""
* supernatural hides *
"I love hijinks as much as the next average-looking early-30s diabetic"
lol
I was agreeing with everything in this video (I still watch Flash and Arrow even though everything you say about it is true) but then you ended it with Smallville being what brings you in? Smallville was the original comic show that should have been great but fell into trope after trope and never reached a third of its potential. I couldn't even hate watch that show by the 4th season.
And I get that its loved and many people will disagree with me, I just find it odd that someone who is so like minded about the Arrowverse sees Smallville so differently
Sorrry dude it just set the standard were to biased and frankly every season of smallvile for me was awesome I actually never bored or tired in any episode ... I feel bored now watching the arrowverse which is unfair to compare the two but idk that’s just me and like u said
U don’t have to agree with me and some may understand others may not but we all got our opinions and preferences u know
After the mention of Stephen Amell's abs, I thought the idea was that he watched because Tom Welling is hot, rather than it being anything to do with the quality of Smallville.
I agree with this, I never really understood the hype about Smallville's later seasons. I think it was a novel idea and casting was awesome, but it never lived up to its potential.
@@CMThota tbf smallvile literally wasn’t even aloud to use the Superman suite lol
Once again, Agents of SHIELD doesn't even get a mention despite being one of the most creative superhero shows on TV.
I don't like Agents of Shield. I feel like it strayed too far away from what it originally was.
Damn. If this isn't the most accurate thing I've ever watched. The display of inner conflict was spot on and hilarious
I AM SO GLAD PEOPLE ARE FINALLY SEEING THE CW DC SHOWS FOR WHAT THEY ARE
Yea amazing superhero content
@@cosmicmaster1006 what no. They’re getting too worn out and boring. Which is why all of them are ending. They’ve run out of ideas. Sure they were great when they first came out but you can only repeat the same formula so many times. And let’s be honest, every time someone said crisis in flash it just became annoying
@@dishonesthonest1327 their not ALL ending. Supergirl and arrow are ending because its the right time. Idk why black Lightning is ending. But Flash, Legends, Batwoman are still going and now were getting Superman & Lois. Ok what exactly is wrong with them saying crisis. Its not like they've been building to it since the very first episode of the show or anything. And ok so its ok when the mcu does their formula but when the arrowverse does it its suddenly boring. *cough* double standard *cough*. Also they are not running out of ideas. They have tons of ideas left. And im just gonna say it now, their better then those shit marvel Netflix series. The only good marvel Netflix series was daredevil
They’re fun! With some great casting and family feeling teams! Yes some overplayed and goofy but still some really good stuff too
@@cosmicmaster1006 It was because of the low ratings season 3 had, even tho Season 3 was amazing, and because of other certain reasons with the streaming wars and its deal with other platforms. I hope season 4 can give the ending and love this show deserved since season 1 ended.
It’s like watching a lower budget justice league
With Soap drama.
You take that back
Yet SOMEHOW, it's better than the official Justice League movie.
I feel bad for him; Kevin Conroy batman was a huge disappointment.
He was good until...that moment occured with Batwoman...
JustNobody ik right? It was going to be the dream! A live action Kevin Conroy Batman?!? Freaking awesome!! But then they turned him into a psychotic alienphobic asshat just to prove that Batwoman is stronger than Batman, why?
@@kinghobothe4th837 I honestly don't mind Batman killing Superman since that was a Batman who fell from his code. But I honestly thought we would have gotten Kevin longer and as an actual paragon like Kingdom Come Superman that how they fucking killed him off just to make Batwoman the paragon of courage.
Was really hoping to see seven multiverse heroes as the paragons. Instead they just happen to come from the arrowverse.
JustNobody ik right Batwoman is the literally definition of Mary Sue
@@kinghobothe4th837 Please, I wish she was a mary sue, then I could say she was cool if I don't think about. Batwoman is just bad, it just screams "I'm a woman, and I can do no wrong"
so davis how many characters do you wanna play
davis: yes
Love that you finally did a video on the Arrowverse again!!
I honestly forgot about that "crossover" from last year.
Just started watching Smallville and I can agree with the Tom Welling bit
Edit: ive been watching for two weeks and Im on season 3. Easily my fav show. Love Michael and Tom'a chemistry and writing
If you just started watching you are in for a treat. Its absolutely amazing
Not gonna be that guy....but I like how him and Lex were like brothers
I watched it every night that it aired from episode 1- the finale. I've watched it countless times since and let me tell you, it puts the DC shows now a days to shame.
@@chadpickett8154 I'm glad I've finally found someone who agrees
@@chadpickett8154 I just hate how he sacrificed his happiness for others which is why S1 hurts to watch.
The very next Flash episode that came out after Elseworlds was called "The Flash and the Furious."
I think that pretty much sums the Arrowverse's decline
"Some of the Marvel Netflix Shows"
*Cries in Daredevil*
Nobody can resist the Arrowverse crossovers. Especially one as big as this!