One day, everyone is gonna be painting minis. It'll be the cool new thing to do.

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  • @bradydonovan6180
    @bradydonovan6180 Před rokem +45654

    Memorizing this trick for the next time I paint imperial guard

    • @dovahkiin_yol
      @dovahkiin_yol Před rokem +126

      Da Hoomanz? You in need vor sum Dakka?

    • @bilboswaggins4081
      @bilboswaggins4081 Před rokem +90

      Wipe your dry brush off on something other then a paper towel I use my cutting mat and it'll stop it from looking chalkey

    • @bradydonovan6180
      @bradydonovan6180 Před rokem +31

      @@bilboswaggins4081 thanks! I was wondering why I was having issues. I’ll give it a shot

    • @bilboswaggins4081
      @bilboswaggins4081 Před rokem +12

      @@bradydonovan6180 no worries, I learnt it from a channel called Artis opus, it's a great channel for dry brushing,

    • @Homie_Creeper_19
      @Homie_Creeper_19 Před rokem +18

      I honestly have nothing but respect to you Guard players. I can’t imagine having to paint so many Guardsmen. I also can’t imagine having an army that performs well on the tabletop. (signed, an Adeptus Mechanicus player)

  • @raymondraptorclaw2901
    @raymondraptorclaw2901 Před rokem +12412

    I’ll never understand why people get scolded for finding an easier way to do things, instead of a harder and least efficient method.

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 Před rokem +1359

      When people realise they've been wasting their time they tend to get annoyed. And it's easier for some people to be annoyed at others than at themselves...

    • @TheJrod482x
      @TheJrod482x Před rokem +145

      ​@@alansmithee419 This is it exactly.

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 Před rokem +403

      @Wesley Swafford Difficulty is not some right of passage for your work to be considered valuable.
      Art is about having an idea, and following it through. It's about creativity and expression. Not how hard it was.

    • @TheEpicGameJunky
      @TheEpicGameJunky Před rokem +53

      ​@@alansmithee419 not only just that spray pant art is infinitly more dangerous consider some of the places its in plus banksy is by far my favourite artist

    • @taylorswiftforever.likefor5668
      @taylorswiftforever.likefor5668 Před rokem +7

      @@wesleyswafford2462 thats dumb. "The more time wasting it is the more valuable it is". What?

  • @odiram
    @odiram Před 11 měsíci +5175

    My brain tells me this is crucial information to remember even though I’ve never painted a mini before and don’t have any particular intention to start

    • @thecheck968
      @thecheck968 Před 5 měsíci +74

      Exactly what I did a few months ago BUT NOW IM BEING INDUCTED INTO A DND CAMPAIGN BABY

    • @nuh_uh210
      @nuh_uh210 Před 5 měsíci +20

      Give the companies your money. You know you want the plastic and the glue.

    • @gabescrazy5504
      @gabescrazy5504 Před 5 měsíci +13

      I also have this, it's an adhd thing, to hyperfocus sometimes, might want to take a test, low dopamine production in the brain does these things

    • @Mar032891
      @Mar032891 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Same!! I'm like I'll probably never buy a mini to paint but if I do I'm fricking ready!!

    • @florppp2326
      @florppp2326 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Mar032891 I was in the exact same boat, and guess who brought a pack of blood angles yesterday. Ffs 😂

  • @Covert278
    @Covert278 Před měsícem +275

    This doesn't sound like a trick, it sounds like an actual technique.

    • @Moimus
      @Moimus Před měsícem +30

      because it is. it isn't even niche. everyone who painted minis for more than a week knows this.

    • @ChiliFlame
      @ChiliFlame Před měsícem

      ​@@Moimus I've known about slapchop since mid last year lmao

    • @Tasarran
      @Tasarran Před měsícem +4

      People still need to hear first-time advice.

    • @GoodbyeBunnie
      @GoodbyeBunnie Před 26 dny

      It is a technique, but it's useful when painting large board games, I've been painting marvel zombies which has a ton of pieces and this definitely makes it go by faster. This method doesn't look as good as other methods if you're skilled enough but it's quick

    • @GoodbyeBunnie
      @GoodbyeBunnie Před 26 dny

      ​@Moimus a lot of people don't paint minis that's the niche part, only people who really, really love tabletop games do

  • @roostertwo5893
    @roostertwo5893 Před rokem +11543

    Learning a painting technique isn’t a trick, it just means you’re a good painter.

    • @snakeoo7ca
      @snakeoo7ca Před rokem +418

      Its a "trick" in the sense it shortens the process and gives the illusion of putting more work than actually given.
      Don't be *that* guy...

    • @kellybraille
      @kellybraille Před rokem +675

      ​@@snakeoo7ca I agree with OP. I've seen this repeatedly presented as a "hack" or (as seen here) a "trick to make people think you're a better painter than you are." No, it's just how you paint 3-D object properly. This technique CAME from artists, it's not a trick to make you LOOK like a better artist, it's just learning how to paint properly.

    • @technounionrepresentative4274
      @technounionrepresentative4274 Před rokem +87

      ​@@snakeoo7ca that just sounds like people are being really inefficient

    • @criscat1750
      @criscat1750 Před rokem +177

      ​@@snakeoo7ca its not a trick, nothing special or a hack. Its not "making it look like they put way more work then was actually given" thats just a very self destructive way of thinking. Using your resources and tools to your advantage is what makes an artist a good artist. Thats like saying i have this easy trick and hack to draw straight lines, and i pull out a ruler.

    • @Elipson52008
      @Elipson52008 Před rokem +86

      @@criscat1750 They call it the "tricks of the trade" for a reason. to people who don't know, its a trick. To those that do, its jut part of the process. Legit, people used to say i was "cheating" when i used a ruler to try and prove that i couldn't draw straight lines.

  • @sable7687
    @sable7687 Před rokem +7676

    I really hope it does get popular, as its a great hobby. I do wonder how that might affect prices though.

    • @maggiescarlet
      @maggiescarlet Před rokem +354

      It's already crazy expensive too 😂 but if more people try it, then probably in a few years there will be more sets on the secondhand market - win win!

    • @maromania7
      @maromania7 Před rokem +251

      typically that lowers prices. the more product they're making, the more larger orders they can make, and larger orders are less expensive. Plus it justifies spending more on equipment, creates more competitors to drive prices down, etc.

    • @arcticwulf5796
      @arcticwulf5796 Před rokem +69

      @@maromania7 make less profits.. , in this economy? Hike up the prices more, make more with less money spent on production = more profit
      The true GW way.

    • @bogdanlevi
      @bogdanlevi Před rokem +35

      ​@@arcticwulf5796 you don't have to buy anything from GW if your goal is to paint miniatures.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 Před rokem +26

      If it wasn't so damn expensive people would actually play. Absolutely no reason with 3d printing being what it is.

  • @TobsterWobbles
    @TobsterWobbles Před 3 měsíci +56

    As someone who paints traditionally, you'd probably get a much more coheasive effect if you underpaint with a very dark color instead of black. For warm tones underpaint with dark brown, for cool tones dark green or blue. You'll still get dramatic shadows, but the colors & shading on the character will look a bit more realistic.

  • @tiffanyh629
    @tiffanyh629 Před 5 měsíci +98

    Digital artist 🤝 Figurine artist
    Grayscale painting

  • @Pentagram619
    @Pentagram619 Před rokem +2121

    this shouldnt be considered cheating, this is a valid technique used not just in mini paintings, but painting in general. It's how we learned to shade in oil painting in college.

    • @criscat1750
      @criscat1750 Před rokem +66

      Yeah iv run into way to many young artist who dont want to use their resources/tools to their advantage cause they think its cheating. We've gotta stop using that term when it comes to art.

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 Před rokem +35

      if people think this is cheating they wanna see how cheaty the actual method of weathering metal is
      YOU DO NOTHING the metal gets this way from abuse and not giving a damn
      so being able to reproduce that in paint is impressive

    • @mekanikose
      @mekanikose Před rokem +5

      ​@@criscat1750 welcome to zoomer logic its pretty stupid honestly why not use all tools and techniques you have available

    • @meliabreuo99
      @meliabreuo99 Před rokem +1

      I think this works with anything with texture, at least everything that I’ve used it on

    • @joy0953
      @joy0953 Před rokem +2

      wait y'all block the objects in the painting with black paint?

  • @Xenro66
    @Xenro66 Před rokem +488

    My older brother was HUGE into warhammer years ago. I distinctly remembering him do this and the minis always came out amazingly

    • @Nashy119
      @Nashy119 Před rokem +4

      I only painted them for a few days but I'm pretty sure techniques like these were described in the basic instruction booklet.

    • @zm0rc
      @zm0rc Před 11 měsíci

      Contrast paints only came out a few years ago.

    • @acat5338
      @acat5338 Před 11 měsíci +7

      ​@@zm0rc You can do the same with inks or thinned down paint. It doesn't need to be Contrast.

    • @emackenzie
      @emackenzie Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@zm0rc while hobby miniatures and contrast paint are modern inventions, the concept of underpainting like this has been around for centuries

    • @epck
      @epck Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@Nashy119 it's the 1st thing they tell you to do

  • @nuyabuisness7526
    @nuyabuisness7526 Před měsícem +3

    I've got friends that like swarm armies like bugs and guards, and they LOVE this method. Helps them crank out a dozen models in a couple hours.

  • @chicken
    @chicken Před měsícem +1

    Underpainting with dark colors is a great technique for mini painting! It can really enhance the final look of the model.

  • @jeremyjdl713
    @jeremyjdl713 Před rokem +3530

    Old school oil painters did something similar. It’s called grisaille. A monotone under painting that you later (after it’s dried a bit) glaze over w/ thin translucent layers of color paint. It gives a really cool look especially in portraits. Makes the subjects skin glow a bit on the canvas w/ how light moves through all the thin layers of paint over the grisaille.

    • @Gr1ngle
      @Gr1ngle Před 11 měsíci +38

      it is an amszing technique, def my favorite way to oil paint.

    • @jeremyjdl713
      @jeremyjdl713 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Gr1ngle same!

    • @PaulaRuizGuillen
      @PaulaRuizGuillen Před 9 měsíci +1

      one of my faves :)

    • @yeturs69420
      @yeturs69420 Před 6 měsíci +2

      No man we have to call it slapchop now. We can't use the original names for things. It needs a catcher name, why aren't you considering the BRANDING OF A PAINTING TECHNIQUE?!?!?!

    • @jacintaschneider4145
      @jacintaschneider4145 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was coming here to say this lol. I did it in art school by doing a masters study of the birth of Venus by Botticelli. Still one of my favorite paintings I've done and one of the most fun and thereputic

  • @target0330
    @target0330 Před rokem +2945

    shadows don't have to be black, though! dark blue, purple, or really any color shadows work, too, and sometimes look better :)

    • @gabojill19
      @gabojill19 Před rokem +116

      True, but black saves you a step since there's black primer

    • @thassalantekreskel5742
      @thassalantekreskel5742 Před rokem +203

      You've got me thinking of a character with an inverted shade spectrum, like one that's glowing from inside. Neon green "shadows" and a nearly black brown for the dry brush would give a treant a crazy look like it was burning with fairy fire inside.

    • @aspwned
      @aspwned Před rokem +28

      colour theory is very fun

    • @LordMooshroom
      @LordMooshroom Před rokem +37

      @@gabojill19 There's primer in all colors

    • @gabojill19
      @gabojill19 Před rokem +19

      @@LordMooshroom wait really? gotta get me some green primer then, thanks

  • @NJ-mo2iw
    @NJ-mo2iw Před 9 měsíci +3

    This is actually a very very very common trick, im surprised so little out side of the art community know such method.

  • @mansman2167
    @mansman2167 Před 9 měsíci +9

    "Hi it's Vince with SlapChop™"

  • @NameIsDoc
    @NameIsDoc Před rokem +1243

    Pro tip, You don't need to use black and white, Dark colors browns, dark pinks, dark blue and then use transition colors that are brighter versions of the above OR different colors for your lights and mid tones. Then you can use colors that compliment or even complimentary to your contrast paints to make various effects. Want a more diverse grayscale? use shades of purple and a yellow contrast paint on top to make it muddy gray. Want your yellows to look great? Start with a pink base and transition to a warm white. When you put a cool yellow on top The white becomes yellow but the pinks become slightly desaturated oranges

    • @noblemecha7788
      @noblemecha7788 Před rokem +25

      U had me at the beginning but lost me at the end

    • @NameIsDoc
      @NameIsDoc Před rokem +35

      @@noblemecha7788 Sorry i art professor and went into color theory. You can use Complimentary colors on top of each other to get a different type of gray and black so lets say what you want your models to be is mostly purple you can basecoat your shadows with a dark yellow, yellow and then white. The dark yellow with purple on top makes a desaturated gray black, yellow might turn brownish gray, while on top of white it becomes purple. this gives the models a much more dynamic and strange look rather then just various tones of the same hue.
      Then I went into Cold and Warm colors and how they interact. Warm colors are colors that pop out because they look like things we associate with heat, red yellow orange. While cool colors are colors that fall back because they are associated with cold things, Blue cyan purple. This is all realitive to what color your using. So a cold yellow would be closer to green then orange and a warm blue would be closer to purple then cyan. when you put warm colors ontop of cool colors of the same type they neutralize their heat in a way and do a thing called "vibration" where its both hot and cold at the same time which is very eye-catching to people.

    • @vrlife7010
      @vrlife7010 Před rokem +16

      @@NameIsDocPerfect Professor talk. So much knowledge and zero clue how to teach it.

    • @NameIsDoc
      @NameIsDoc Před rokem +27

      @@vrlife7010 To be fair im better when i have a voice and my examples. Its hard to convay principles of art though text alone even some of the best art teachers in the world can't do it right.

    • @MrSen4lifE
      @MrSen4lifE Před rokem +18

      @@NameIsDoc To be fair I understood everything you said on the first read and I know nothing and have always had zero interest in art or painting so you probably explained just fine and these guys are trolls.

  • @TheEmber221
    @TheEmber221 Před rokem +130

    As my group's designated mini painter, I did need to know that actually.

  • @senorsoloq
    @senorsoloq Před 9 měsíci +2

    I swear polygon got me with their psyop.

  • @6hughmungus9
    @6hughmungus9 Před měsícem +2

    "Convince" people youre a master painter, by being really good at painting small model figures lol

  • @RatRatRattyRatRat
    @RatRatRattyRatRat Před rokem +235

    This is what my dad taught me to do with normal paintings. Start dark and bring out the lights. Neat.

    • @jp9707
      @jp9707 Před rokem +8

      I think (I'm not an expert at all) that it depends on how opaque the paint is. For opaque paints like acrylic you can do this, because the light colours will sit on top of the dark colours. For more transparent paint like watercolour you have to start with lighter shades and add dark, because the dark colours can't be painted over.

    • @GorillaCape
      @GorillaCape Před rokem

      Your dad is bob ross?

  • @mataschmata
    @mataschmata Před rokem +13

    this isn't "tricking" anyone, this is a legitimate technique

  • @Seto-ty1ys
    @Seto-ty1ys Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is similar to 3D modelling too. When you bake something (basically putting a high detail model onto a low detail model so it looks like the high detail one), it looks very similar to shadows. Super cool how light works

  • @kosuken
    @kosuken Před měsícem +1

    "dident need to know"
    nah thank god i know this now

  • @mavendeo
    @mavendeo Před rokem +445

    No, I absolutely needed to know this. I've been kind of afraid to get into minis because I'm in no way am artist. I might actually try this. Thank you. You opened up a whole new world for me.

    • @chandlercampbell3356
      @chandlercampbell3356 Před rokem +3

      Look up mini painting videos on CZcams! Slap chop method is super easy, but there are dozens of super easy techniques too! Its only as hard as you make it :) go out and paint

    • @criscat1750
      @criscat1750 Před rokem +3

      Every artist starts somewhere. And this technique could help you have a good start.

    • @alilhard
      @alilhard Před rokem

      Honestly I had great looking ultramarines with just a black layer, some blue I would dunk them in and then adding gold to some edges. Not anything amazing but still looked convincing enough.
      Don't hesitate going into it and just enjoy it, practice makes perfect.

    • @georgeb5262
      @georgeb5262 Před rokem

      Can you give us updates if you made it?

    • @liv.gunner
      @liv.gunner Před rokem

      Minature hobyist is my dad

  • @wohdinhel
    @wohdinhel Před rokem +59

    this is basically how 3D models in games get colored in the rendering process so it makes a ton of sense!

  • @auxomox
    @auxomox Před 8 měsíci +9

    I do this, but i would warn against flat black, i use either dark blue or dark warm brown. If you are going for the appearance of warm lighting (nature lighting) having a cool underpaint is preferred. Artificial light ( cyberpunk setting) warm underpain is preffered, this is because the shadow will be the inverse tone of the light, so warm light cast cool shadows, and vice versa.

  • @johnathanbean4549
    @johnathanbean4549 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Also try zenithal lighting, start with a black primer then decide where you want your light to be coming from on the model and hit it with a few light blasts of white primer. Gives a similar result with darker shadows😊

  • @doomed2die595
    @doomed2die595 Před rokem +140

    This is the perfect example of using YT Shorts the proper way, conveying useful information fast and effectively. Thank you for this :)

  • @zoeyschlemper7486
    @zoeyschlemper7486 Před rokem +93

    This is done in videogames all the time. Curvature and ambient occlusion maps create the same base grayscale effect. Then you can just multiply your base color with it, same as how the color is thin enough to allow shadows to show through in the paint.

    • @01hZ
      @01hZ Před rokem

      NERD!

    • @MrSquare
      @MrSquare Před rokem +2

      I'm a mini painter and thanks for that fact, very interesting:)

    • @mariovelez578
      @mariovelez578 Před rokem +3

      If you want to know why this is a thing, it’s because ambient light (scattered light) gets occluded (trapped) in corners where it would bounce more and have a harder time entering your eye. If you look at the edges and corners of the room you are in, it will appear slightly darker than the center of the wall

    • @gordon7936
      @gordon7936 Před rokem

      Expanding on the subject its not really the case for most realistic pre rendered scenes, doubling the shadows using baked occlusion can look cartoony. It will change in video games too as there are going to be more polygons and more real time accurate ligthting.

  • @Dizpiz569
    @Dizpiz569 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It's got that borderlands art style.

  • @wotthemic7791
    @wotthemic7791 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is actually useful for people just getting into painting minis until we get better techniques down

  • @Feverdream7777
    @Feverdream7777 Před rokem +223

    I've never painted a mini, but I'm glad to know this now. It applies to other life subjects.

  • @TricksterModeEngaged
    @TricksterModeEngaged Před rokem +469

    here's a slightly different version of this for a tinted metallic effect: prime black, brush over a medium grey as usual, then brush over a not-super-bright metallic (e.g. leadbelcher from Citadel), then dry brush over silver focusing on edges and upper surfaces and then (optionally) highlight with bright silver on just edges and high points. Throw some contrast/speedpaint over top and you now have a coloured metallic effect with easy shading and highlights.

    • @krelekari
      @krelekari Před 8 měsíci +1

      thats huge for me thank you so much for dropping this gem of knowledge

    • @pablolee2252
      @pablolee2252 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@krelekari When you paint it black and dry brush it silver what kind of paint do you use?

  • @MichaelAivaliotis
    @MichaelAivaliotis Před měsícem +1

    It’s not tricking people. It’s how it’s done.

  • @m1sty310
    @m1sty310 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is kinda cool bc as an artist this is literally what i do when drawing on photoshop

  • @rambo-cambo3581
    @rambo-cambo3581 Před rokem +26

    Ngl anyone who paints miniatures should know this, it's mini painting 101

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 Před rokem +4

      Lmfao, no its not troll, this strategy literally didn't exist until a few years ago because the paint used didn't exist, a similar strategy did bit it was NOT one shown to new painters often

    • @novadragon_official
      @novadragon_official Před rokem +10

      @@jtowensbyiii6018 uh yes it did, i bought those inc paints for warhammer models way back in the 90's. This is how we always used to paint our models.

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 Před rokem +2

      @@novadragon_official contrast literally didn't exist until a couple years ago

    • @novadragon_official
      @novadragon_official Před rokem +10

      @@jtowensbyiii6018 And people used wash paints instead, the only difference is that wash paint is thinner so most of the time you had to do double layers. The technique is still exactly the same and nothing new.

    • @rileymachelle4088
      @rileymachelle4088 Před rokem

      ​@@novadragon_official What kinda paint would you recommend now? I really wanna get into miniatures and repainting some of my old figure's but have no idea where to start. I already have some paints since I'm an artist, but I have a feeling that minis require something else made specifically for mini-painting. Rn I have acrylic, oil, water colour and spray paint

  • @TotallyNotTheRedComet69
    @TotallyNotTheRedComet69 Před rokem +74

    WHY DIDNT I EVER THINK OF THIS?? IVE BEEN PAINTING MINIS FOR LLLLLITTERALLY A DECADE HOW HAVE I NEVER THOUGHT TO DO THIS???

    • @GarrettPDGA
      @GarrettPDGA Před rokem +3

      Because you passed the need for that knowledge. It is a beginner technique. Also, like airbrushing, people can tell when you use it. Amazingly useful for large batches of units, but I personally would never slapchop a character

    • @Uhohlisa
      @Uhohlisa Před rokem

      Because you aren’t bright

    • @lintala7090
      @lintala7090 Před rokem

      No idea it’s incredibly useful and you can always paint over dry brush or use it over your painted mini

    • @Squeaktoymk2
      @Squeaktoymk2 Před rokem +1

      Because it's fairly new in the scene.
      Just like you, I too had to labor away at it the old fashioned way.
      I'm just glad more people can get to enjoy the hobby without the huge hurdles.

  • @user-fz6so5nn8b
    @user-fz6so5nn8b Před 3 měsíci +8

    You can trick people into thinking you’re good at painting minis by being good at painting minis.

  • @farflebfarfle
    @farflebfarfle Před měsícem

    I've always wanted to paint minis so now, after 47 years of procrastinating, I will begin my journey.

  • @blessedcalm8241
    @blessedcalm8241 Před rokem +15

    It doesn't just have to be a black undercoat both reds and browns work wonders as shadows for yellow. For those who knows the struggle of painting Imperial Fists!

  • @lochiegriffiths4712
    @lochiegriffiths4712 Před rokem +19

    Paint every mini figure black.
    Now you have a collection of shadow creatures

  • @prozystudios1595
    @prozystudios1595 Před měsícem

    i love this cuz it’s like. trick people into thinking you’re really good by making art that looks really good

  • @EgorKlenov
    @EgorKlenov Před měsícem

    If you can trick people into thinking you're a painting master, you're a painting master. There's no other definition of painting master.

  • @stone5against1
    @stone5against1 Před rokem +84

    I'm not into minis but that's a pretty neat trick!

  • @dredgenauryx3382
    @dredgenauryx3382 Před rokem +15

    I needed this in my life... I have multiple Warhammer 40k Models that have been too afraid to paint but have been thinking of recruiting my much more artistically gifted little siblings to teach me how to paint.

    • @GarrettPDGA
      @GarrettPDGA Před rokem +1

      If you're afraid to start your painting journey with them, you could always start with dollar store toys. Prime and repaint something with very little value, to gain proficiency and confidence.

    • @thefatbob3710
      @thefatbob3710 Před rokem

      *IN THE EMPERORS NAME WERE DID ALL THE COLOR GO?!*

  • @bluesfier7758
    @bluesfier7758 Před 18 dny

    That's not a trick, it's legit a good way to paint

  • @timbuktu8069
    @timbuktu8069 Před dnem

    The tutorial I didn't know I needed.

  • @IronCrown
    @IronCrown Před rokem +81

    If you have an airbrush, a zenithal prime/highlight functions similarly to the dry brushing stage, but with added shadows.

    • @KyrieFortune
      @KyrieFortune Před rokem +3

      Exactly my thoughts, "isn't this just zenithal priming?"

    • @GarrettPDGA
      @GarrettPDGA Před rokem +1

      You can zenithal with rattle cans too

    • @humanname1458
      @humanname1458 Před rokem

      Zenithal is highlighting from a specific point of light that you determine.
      I build a jig to paint all my Nids with a zenithal highlight in a more uniform way.
      Rattle can was about 120 degrees from the middle of the model, so that the lightest parts where most likely the Bits you'd see coming towards you.
      Zenithal can also be used if you only want to light the models from the top like a midday sun.
      Slap chop is just all over dark to light for every bit and hope it works out.
      Slap chop looks awful on more panels of armour to me. Any big flat surfaces it's just not as effective.
      That being said contrast paint is equally as bad at those types of surfaces...
      Basically if contrast will work well on the surface and you wanna paint 100 terms...slap chop and contrast gets you to a table ready looking set of models...
      But your ultramarines will look like they lack some definition
      Idk if that helps.
      tldr
      Zenithal is actually highlighting from a specific light source, an angled source or a directed source.
      Slap chop is just dark to light all over

    • @GarrettPDGA
      @GarrettPDGA Před rokem +1

      @@humanname1458 Zenithal means highlighting the zenith or top. From other directions is slapchop

    • @humanname1458
      @humanname1458 Před rokem

      @@GarrettPDGA yes.
      But you can use the zenithal method from any angle :p

  • @chasenovak122
    @chasenovak122 Před rokem +24

    Excuse me, I DID need to know this, thank you very much!

    • @martinakapenny
      @martinakapenny Před rokem

      Absolutely, it's such a great payoff for such little effort!

  • @jonathanstephens6949
    @jonathanstephens6949 Před měsícem

    I can still remember the smell of the paint used for my Warhammer 40K figurines 25 years ago ❤️

  • @Tinytox
    @Tinytox Před měsícem

    FYI, If you can trick people into thinking you're a painting master, you're a painting master.

  • @mariovelez578
    @mariovelez578 Před rokem +27

    The “shadows” you mention of is called “ambient occlusion” in the computer graphics world. Light gets trapped in the crevices making them appear darker

    • @capsey_
      @capsey_ Před 5 měsíci +3

      That's exactly what I thought of when I saw this

  • @rivenrime
    @rivenrime Před rokem +10

    This is a really great tip, thanks! I knew about doing a primer coat of black, but I didn't think of using transparent paints.

  • @CptnAlpac
    @CptnAlpac Před 10 měsíci +1

    "It's such an easy trick" - Shows footage of others doin slapshop

  • @TRIC4pitator
    @TRIC4pitator Před 9 dny

    you can trick your friends into thinking you're a master painter by being a master painter

  • @TTabbyTT
    @TTabbyTT Před rokem +30

    I need to remember this for the stormlight archive minis coming next month

    • @noctisocculta4820
      @noctisocculta4820 Před 6 měsíci

      Oh damn, I forgot about that! I need to order some.

    • @samuelleask1132
      @samuelleask1132 Před 3 měsíci

      I saved this video for that exact reason lol

    • @cernunnos8344
      @cernunnos8344 Před měsícem

      Stormlight archive minis ?😂 is that really a thing ?

  • @BattlewarPenguin
    @BattlewarPenguin Před rokem +7

    It's amazing how deep Warhammer can go, really makes me wanna get into the universe stuff

  • @gothartist6602
    @gothartist6602 Před 2 měsíci

    My dad teaches mini painting classes, this is the first thing he taught me as a child

  • @GreenLanternCorps2814
    @GreenLanternCorps2814 Před 2 měsíci

    I don't know why, but this is what it took for me to finally understand how slapchop works.

  • @MrPooleish
    @MrPooleish Před rokem +19

    Wait, Polygon is getting into Miniature Wargaming? It's about time!

  • @usagi-sama8595
    @usagi-sama8595 Před rokem +5

    OMG... I have been struggling to paint minis for years and you just squashed ALL OF THAT. I just tried this and the mini that took about 30 minutes looks better than the ones I've spent hours staring at through a magnifier.

  • @Warhammer27945
    @Warhammer27945 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much I am new to warhammer 40k and all the tips really help🎉

  • @blurryink115
    @blurryink115 Před měsícem

    Reminds me of greyscale painting when you’re rendering something via digital art

  • @tiredofthebull7669
    @tiredofthebull7669 Před rokem +12

    *I definitely needed to know this.*

  • @kylekyle4169
    @kylekyle4169 Před rokem +4

    I actually did need to know this thank you so much!

  • @djvelocity
    @djvelocity Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is so damn interesting! I’ve never actually thought about how they get painted 🤔😮

  • @lostrebel
    @lostrebel Před rokem +8

    I actually did need this. This is great! haha

  • @Michael_Lindell
    @Michael_Lindell Před rokem +9

    Well, this was a nice 'Mini Mini'.

  • @zachialadams9279
    @zachialadams9279 Před 8 měsíci

    Slapchop also gives it a cell-shaded look if you're into the 'borderlands' aesthetic.

  • @PurpleSlime27
    @PurpleSlime27 Před 2 měsíci

    I dont even paint miniatures... but I know my brain is still gonna store this information instead of something i wanted to remember lol

  • @idkjustleavemebeplease
    @idkjustleavemebeplease Před rokem +8

    Don't feel limited to black and white for your shadows and highlights.
    You can use this technic with all sorts of colours to varying effect.
    For instance, when I am painting something yellow, I use purple for the base, then dry brush a tan or warm white. This is important, because a cool white will react with the yellow paint making it look a little tinted.

  • @Kotturos
    @Kotturos Před rokem +3

    I've never painted a lil character like that but this is gonna live in my mind for the rest of my life

  • @lepostedejordan
    @lepostedejordan Před 7 měsíci

    That's not tricking people. That's just solid technique 😂

  • @Breadsipperx_CHEESE
    @Breadsipperx_CHEESE Před 8 měsíci +3

    Knowing me, I'm still going to mess it up

    • @sebastianls412
      @sebastianls412 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Why not try it? What’s the worst that could happen?

  • @janicewhite225
    @janicewhite225 Před rokem +3

    I needed to know this because I'm preparing to paint my first mini in over 3 years for a new game soon and this will be so helpful!

  • @drmadjdsadjadi
    @drmadjdsadjadi Před rokem +5

    I definitely needed to know this. Thanks!

  • @myname-mz3lo
    @myname-mz3lo Před měsícem

    painting masters would use this trick too if they were making figurines lol

  • @Akieth0
    @Akieth0 Před 2 měsíci

    I will still call them a painting master for doing all those steps.

  • @aruemon3086
    @aruemon3086 Před rokem +12

    That’s actually super useful! Thanks!

  • @louiswilson5873
    @louiswilson5873 Před rokem +3

    Oh I needed to know this, I'm about to start painting models.

  • @KevinKujiTrueAlpha
    @KevinKujiTrueAlpha Před 6 měsíci +1

    I went from not a novice for painting minis to novice

  • @LowFoeSam
    @LowFoeSam Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is basically a zenithal highlight with a brush.

  • @NivMrTheFiremind
    @NivMrTheFiremind Před rokem +4

    That’s not tricking people, it’s just a good technique. If it works it works. It’s art, who cares how you got there. 🙂

  • @rspanda8025
    @rspanda8025 Před rokem +39

    for people like myself with a relatively severe involuntary tremor, this is a weird niche thing I needed so thank you.
    p.s. I'll be using this trick when I detail fine details on some furniture's I repaint.

    • @Boomtox
      @Boomtox Před rokem +1

      Yo I didn't expect anyone else with that in the comments. :0 Is yours caused by "essential tremors" too, or is it another thing?

    • @ericjensen7580
      @ericjensen7580 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Hey, random tip that might help: touch 1 one more fingers together while painting - so the hand you have the model in and the hand holding your brush. Alternatively, you touching the base of the model (I try to make as little contact with the painting surface as possible) can help.
      I have a skight tremor myself, so this has helped GREATLY with painting eyes and sketching.

  • @knifeturtle
    @knifeturtle Před 9 měsíci +1

    that's actually sick

  • @SeniorSunday
    @SeniorSunday Před 10 měsíci +5

    You mean trick people into thinking you are good at painting by learning a painting technique that yields fantastic results? At that point... I think you're just good at painting.

    • @Thalanox
      @Thalanox Před měsícem

      In terms of how good it looks compared to the actual effort expended, sure. In terms of having actual real understanding of things like colour blending, or ability to maintain fine details (that require a dextrous hand) when painting, not so much.
      I say this as someone who has not attempted painting a miniature in a very, very long time, and only knew about base coats, flat colours, and then drybrushing on top of that at the time. I only barely was learning about how thinning properly to maintain texture for better results (because I inherited the incomplete painting kit from a friend who was moving, so the paint selection was random and in all levels of functional.
      I'd like to paint like this if I started doing that kind of thing again.

    • @SeniorSunday
      @SeniorSunday Před měsícem

      @@Thalanox Regardless of how complicated your techniques are or are not, if you paint beautiful minis then you are good at painting minis.

  • @retronymph
    @retronymph Před 5 měsíci +8

    For those who don't know, Contrast Paint is a brand name, used by Games Workshop. The more general name would be a wash paint.

    • @michaelnewton4662
      @michaelnewton4662 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Contrast, from what I’ve heard, is not a wash. I asked my local game shop owner what it is and he said it’s a thin paint similar to a wash that is supposed to skip the base/layer step by being a midpoint between a wash and a base paint. A wash is meant to be used on top of a base and/or layer paint to give shadows and depth to the model, but contrast is supposed to do both. He recommended using a white primer if using contrast paint.

    • @windows95_de
      @windows95_de Před 3 měsíci +2

      Contrast paint is like speed paint... wash is just for shadows/contrast 😂

  • @Marcomanexists
    @Marcomanexists Před 8 měsíci +1

    My nonexistent warhammer collection is gonna look sick

  • @nerdsoftheherd69
    @nerdsoftheherd69 Před 3 měsíci

    If you do this it's really helpful to add highlights afterwards it helps the contrast paints pop

  • @HarleyCringe
    @HarleyCringe Před 7 měsíci +6

    Tricking people into thinking you're good at painting by using painting methods that make your art look good

  • @the98themperoroftheholybri33

    Not true, I can spot this from a mile away.
    I've been painting and building 28mm scale miniatures, both hero scale and true scale for over 20 years.
    This method is good for painting lots of minis quickly, but a common mistake people make is applying a coat of contrast too thickly which creates pools of paint in a weird area.
    The way I'd suggest people try is the "grimdark method", it can be scary using enamel paints and washes but they give a better end result and you can easily correct mistakes if you make them.

    • @Barrillel
      @Barrillel Před 7 měsíci

      Well I was getting hyped about painting for once but now you killed my hype. Thanks 😢

    • @the98themperoroftheholybri33
      @the98themperoroftheholybri33 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Barrillel I'm just a grumpy boomer from a time when paints were extremely limited so we had to see and make do.
      Don't let me discourage you, try whatever you think looks good, we all start out somewhere but so long as you get some paint on models that's the point, you never know you might create an entirely new method for painting models

  • @belladonnameglitsch1132
    @belladonnameglitsch1132 Před 8 měsíci +1

    We definitely needed to know this!

  • @raymondb7226
    @raymondb7226 Před měsícem

    this comment section is full to the brim with wonderful advice for painting models/figures and i deeply thank you all

  • @ericstoverink6579
    @ericstoverink6579 Před 8 měsíci +4

    These aren't secret tricks. This is just how you paint miniatures.

    • @MM-bb5jm
      @MM-bb5jm Před 6 měsíci

      I know right? Lol

    • @angrechico173
      @angrechico173 Před 4 měsíci +1

      she didn't say it was? she said "weirdly niche nerd things you didnt need to know but im telling you anyways" ....she's informing ppl about a diff way to paint that didnt know ab it already?

    • @poggestfrog
      @poggestfrog Před 4 měsíci

      it's a way you can - slapchop has only been popularised recently and before that we had more 'Eavy Metal, lots of retro, sometimes glazing based stuff, etc

    • @HJKampe
      @HJKampe Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@poggestfrogI'm confused on how this has been popularized recently. This isn't much different Zenithal priming and then slapping on contrast paints.

  • @MDigitalProductions
    @MDigitalProductions Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thats so clever, like how digital artists use gradient maps or overlay blending modes! (Those who know, know what I'm talking about)

  • @CringeLover
    @CringeLover Před měsícem

    This is an actually neat trick, thank you.

  • @tesmat1243
    @tesmat1243 Před 9 měsíci +1

    How to trick people into believing you're good at painting figures: step 1 be good at painting figures

  • @SeanyBgood
    @SeanyBgood Před 5 měsíci

    I needed to see this. Thank you so much!

  • @jimx117
    @jimx117 Před měsícem

    You're absolutely right, I didn't need to know this but this technique is fantastic and has made me rethink the level of talent needed to paint miniatures