If I started Warhammer in 2023, I'd Get These 7 Tools
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For beginners these tools add up to way too much money. Go with the tools like clippers and a hobby knife but airbrushes 3d printers or carrying shelves are too steep of an investment for beginners, first enjoy the hobby and see if it's for you and how deep you wanna get into it
The value of money is relative to the person though. To many, The value of their time is a much bigger deal than the value of these tools. Having proper light for example could save you from messing it up and having to redo it. And for something like the magnifying glass and model holder, saving your neck and shoulders is basically priceless for many. I would value that higher than my entire 5,000 point collection.
I just started painting and definetly you have a point. You don't have to spend 1000s of euro on this type of equipment to enjoy painting. For pallet I use cardboard, for light source - cheap USB light. This video is really bad - showing people who want to try that this is really expensive hobby etc.
If you buy the bare minimum for a 2k point army then THAT'S way too much money.
@mikhailchelpon260 This is literally true.
I think people should dip their toes in with kill teams or something and if they find that they enjoy painting and playing they should invest in a 3d printer asap.
@@mikhailchelpon260 the worst take ever. I paid 150 for ultimate starter set, how am I supposed to justify spending 150 for light, 200 for airbrush etc.? Let me check if I like this befor dipping big bucks
One of the best bonuses for 3d printing, is that I don't have to worry about screwing up a model by preping and painting it, I can always print out another later.
Definitely get an airbrush.
I'd decided to paint an orange army and this saved the entire project. Not only could I just prime in my home, not having to wait for the weather or whatever, but also it saved me a lot of time and pain on painting yellow and orange, both of which are notoriously hard paints to apply without throwing a dozen layers on top.
Once you have it, you'll have fun learning how to use it for other things, like easy OSL effects, zenithals, using inks on zenithals, pre and post shading and much more.
Do it.
Do you spray in a garage or somewhere well ventilated or do you use an airbrush booth? I want to get one but I’m not sure how dangerous the atomised paint is
@@Short_Shots portable mini-booth with a ventilator and a hose with a slit at the end that fits in the crack of a window.
Acrylic isn't that bad, it's just mildly irritating if you use a lot (Use a mask if you're concerned, not a cloth mask but one from a paint shop with a proper closure and filter), but if you use alco-based paints/enamels, it's definitely bad for you and you need to ventilate properly.
@@Smilomaniac thanks
*looks up from the mini I'm painting with just the light from the ceiling light* "huh?"
My hobby is stop motion and building/painting dioramas for my stop motion. I came across one of your videos and now cannot stop watching them. They are very well put together and your marital is very easy to follow and understand, not to mention how entertaining they are... Thanks to you I have a 3rd hobby now, painting miniature. At least I have most of the materials to start this, :).
I just want to say that I love your channel and it has helped me a lot in finding inspiration, and encouraged me to try, and attempt new techniques in my hobby journey. You are awesome and keep up the great work.
Tamiya also do some decent sanding sponge sheets in different grits. Cut them to whatever shape and use a toothpick or popsicle stick, really ups your sanding game.
Also great video, dude. Kind of really wanna get an airbrush now though 😁
I know it's more expensive than people think they should spend, but a vortex mixer, especially if you use thicker paint ranges, is really good. Especially if you don't paint consistently, and take week or month long breaks, it is a lifesaver compared to shaking each bottle for two to five minutes. I had wrist issues in the past, too, so that helps, but I think consistency is always good to have.
Probably would put it after airbrush, before 3d printer. When you know painting minis isn't a six month hobby, you'll do it for at least a few years, but I think, once you hit 3d printer, you have a desk or space that is just mini painting at that point.
But also to repeat the most important part, get an airbrush.
Ive been using my massage gun.
Cant use vortex mixer for massage, but can use massage gun to mix paint. :)
Metal tubes are the best paint packaging as they don't require mixing
@@istovall2624can use the vortex mixer for a massager. It was what I was using on my hand when my hand was having issues.
If you have a 3d printer, you can print out a drill attachment that does the same thing, extremely quick and efficient way to remix paint that has separated and fallen out of solution
Excellent video Zumikito!
This year I plan to upgrade my lighting. I'm seeing if the new Redgrass bulb is worth the cost issues. I've also been looking at a paint case so I can paint with friends or move indoors.
The 3D printer issue is just space and odor issues... but the temptation is growing every year.
Just bought my first paint set about 30 minutes before watching this. It was hard to not just load up my cart with everything I see getting used on YT. I had to keep reminding myself that I don't even know if I will enjoy mini painting yet, or if I will even be capable of it with my shaky hands. Ultimately I just picked up the two reaper learn to paint sets and one of the army painter gamemaster character paint sets as well as a cheap wet palette. But the urge to pick up nice brushes, an airbrush, a nice travel case for it all, etc... was super tempting.
If you are not fully comitted yet, that's definitely a good choice!
Start with cheap brushes until you learn how to care for them, and them treat yourself to a nice quality brush or two. You will know what types of brush to buy when you get to that point (smaller, flatter, drybrush, etc.) On the other hand, an airbrush is great, and real cheap.
Enjoy your time starting out in the hobby, it’s heaps of fun. 😊
Any updates?
@@person4436 I do quite enjoy painting (though I've not painted anything in a couple months) I ended up picking up some ProAcryl and have really liked using my friend's Army Painter Speedpaints (he has the original, not the 2.0) and plan to eventually pick some up of my own when I get back to painting. I also picked up a cheap airbrush for priming and am planning to upgrade to a good one at some point as well.
This actually reminded me that I hadn't uploaded my last few minis to my instagram, lol. I wasn't super proud of what I had done for a bit, but I was just playing around and really liked the results and though "huh, maybe I'll put this one out there for the world to see" lol.
Solid sutff as always. On the airbrush front, the diff isn't really in the results, rather in the ease of finding replacement parts when you need to. Way easier with established brands over the cheap set ones, then again, with prices as they are, it's almost as easy to buy a replacement no name airbrush I guess.
I think it's fine to cheap out on a lamp. I got a €10 one from a Euro store, and it's served me well so far. Never used one before this, and its really helped a lot.
Plus if the power goes out, i can run it from a power bank thing.
Got my neatfi xl about a month ago and it truly is one of those tools that will increase your quality. This replaced 3 light sources. I had 2 led desk lamps and the overhead light. If you paint regularly you should have this.
I’ve been out of the hobby since 2001 (when I won a Youngblood’s golden demon 😂), and I’m finally going to jump back in. SO much has changed, and this was really helpful, thank you
Buying a resin printer was one of the greatest things for painting. I got a phrozen 8k and printing minis to practice techniques, mess around, and just not suck. I saved my GW minis for a while, accumulated a pile of shame, and painted them when I was much more confident.
for light source at £12 there is Woputne Desk Lamp u can change the light brightness and the colour also has a flexible stand so u can get it to move for different angles if u want
I got a USB powered LED light bar that is magnetized to a couple adhesive brackets under my monitor. They also make them that stick on top of your monitor. It's a great solution for people that paint in front of the computer.
Will definitely get some of these, especially the wet pallet.
Also my paint case is a Vault-tech lunch box from the Fallout 3 collectors edition. And some foam inserts.
Thank you for this video mate, without it i would totally missed that opr spider )) Printed it, painted it, love it!
I bought an expensive Cult of Paint Infinity airbrush, mostly for zenithals. It bubbles from the airhead when wet on the outside and spraying inks is a nightmare as they're thin enough to leak through. Apparently the fix is chapstick around the threads on a £200 device.
Wish I'd gone with the cheaper option, as suggested. Kudos to you suggesting that rather than hawking a rebranded H&S like other content creators.
I had exactly the same issue with my H&S Evolution, but i was using PTFE tape for sealing. Will try the lipstick trick, thanks! I'd say if you want a fancy airbrush, go with Iwata. The reason is very simple - it's all steel. My main issue with H&S was how f*ing expensive all the parts for these airbrushes are and how easyly you can damage it. Main reason I didn't bought infinity was that the tip of the needle is exposed and i immediately new I'll damage it as soon as I try to put on a stand. For priming and zenithal you can just get a cheap chinese airbrush and you most likely won't see any difference with h&s Evolution (i don't:). Also infinity is only needed if you are really good and precise, you really know what you are doing. In in that case you probably can decide for yourself;)
I have been using cheap snips for decades in my modelling, and I have to say that a proper set is a wonderful thing I wish I had purchased way back at the start.
I'm starting to see the importance of a light. I find that when I think I'm finished with a mini, I'll notice areas that aren't as smooth or just didn't receive any paint.
As for the 3D printer, I think apart from the investment, a proper space for one holds people back. I know that's the case for me who live in an apartment. However, I'm glad there's no shortage of people on Etsy who sell 3D printed models.
I’ve been looking at the neatfi lamp now for about a year and a half. I just ordered one!
3d Printer has been such a boon to my painting. It lets me practice my brushwork and new techniques without anxiety of "messing it up" and wasting money on models. I can print dozens of minis at a time, and practice on them without any worry!
Even if you're 'just' a beginner, a headset with magnifying lenses can be of enormous benefit, allowing you to paint for longer in greater comfort. Just remember that the higher the magnification, the brighter the light you need.
I've watched your videos before. this one earned you a sub in my books. Cheers mate.
Re: Getting an airbrush - It's worth it. I kept thinking I didn't have the space, but then I got one of those little ones with a portable compressor and it's been a game changer. So you don't even need to get a big compressor. The little portable kit I got was $60 and included an airbrush. If you're skeptical and don't want to put down $150+, then I highly suggest one of these little ones.
I just begin this in this hobby whit 40k mini and cytadel paint I am still missing a few tool but can manage to get proper mini done still interesting to see a more experience painter to help me inprove tho
Big thing I've been trying to find is a case that can hold my army displaying them nicely while also protecting them and that I could grab the case and go to let's say a tournament.
Really useful boxes 4 liter and 9 liter with A4 magnetic sheets
Thanks, picked up one of the wet palettes
The army painter paper sheets for the wet palett are the best i tryed so far
I use a tackle box for a paint case. It’s cheap and works pretty well.
You don’t need to get a task lamp. Any old desk lamp with the right bulbs will do just as well for a fraction of the price. I’ve also found that a camping headlamp works very well for lighting
If you really want to cheap out on lights, you can buy a bright lamp(that doesnt give off much heat) and cover it with white paper to dim it. You could also use coloured paper to tint it.
I used a leftover Styrofoam cup to make rocks to base a mini. It worked out really well, you just have to be careful with how you glue it, and how you prime it.
Cover your styrofoam in pva glue, mod podge is the brand I use, I mix it with a black paint so I can see it easier and then just cover the whole piece, then you can spray whatever paint and use whatever glue you want as the layer of glue will protect the styrofoam from melting
120$ for a light , 150$ for a airbrush, tools 25-100$, a 3d printer for and resin 400-900$. Brushes , paints , etc. Avarge salary in my country 480$ . Spending twice as much on paint products just to get 2000-2500 points of an army also seems super excessive.
Also suprised that people don't need a license to have a compressor without needing it for work.
If you find value in a 3D printer, start with second hand one or the one for under 250 USD.
you dont need to buy these for a battle ready army, but they are good to have if you want the best end product.
The one that did it for me was the paint case... I don't really like using desktop paint stations or cupboards so the case REALLY helps me out lol, pull the case from under the table, open, paint, put it back under the table, done.
I have been using ikea lamps with daylight bulbs for a while now, but I am think of getting the neatfi light just to have more space. Not sure the cost justifies it thou.
instead of parchment paper, waxed or not I use Photo paper for printers. the glossy treatment is great for mixing paints
for a light I have a headlamp imo it is unmatched when it comes to casting shadows on the thing you are painting.
If your eyesight isn't the best, invest in a magnification-lamp combo. A big lens to make the miniature smaller with a ring-lamp built in for illumination.
Id say that besides prep tools and wet Palette, the rest is very much for intermediate or advanced hobbyist. Unless you want total freedom as far as minis go then 3d printer is a Hood start.
I'm considering getting into warhammer and I got a few questions.
Can you buy pre-painted minis?
Why don't you paint the peaces before assembling?
Would it be more economic to go the 3D printer route and just print all the minis I'd use?
Are there any ways to start the hobby under $200 (the cheaper the better)?
Is warhammer even a hobby worth considering if I'm on a budget?
What ways can I learn about public events hosting warhammer?
What is the most noob friendly army?
Any answers are appreciated.
I use a Hama Ringlight as a lamp, it has 10 dimming levels and 3 temperatures. When i turn it on it's like a mini sun
Only Zumikito’s beard can make a cardigan sweater look fierce!!
I certainly advocate using 3D printers for miniature gaming. FDM are great from larger terrain pieces, buildings, etc. Resin printing for miniatures.
Funnily enough, the thing I print the most with my resin printer is… transparent bases! With so many terrain options, and choices for basing, minis often lookout of place, if they are not in the one type of terrain their bases match.
My solution? Clear bases. That way, my minis don’t look out of place in any environment. I have based my entire Marvel Crisis Protocol collection on clear bases and I really love it. Some converting was required, as several models have objects or terrain incorporated with the minis, but overall the effect is very pleasing.
To beginers:
You can do wet pallet from simple shallow box.
Alibaba/amazon cheapest airbrush /compressor set is just fine for first experience.. It really is.
You don't need a paint case. Just throw shit into backpack or dinner box.
Buy clippers from hardware shop, specialist electrical is the best.
Buy tamija fine liquid cement for plastic models, it's the best.
Cheap brushes are ok.
The Milliput segment is spot on. My only objection to Milliput is that it's not as good an adhesive as Green Stuff. Otherwise, yeah, it's a lot easier to use than Green Stuff and it cures a lot harder.
You've convinced me to upgrade my mustache. Glorious.
You can take one of those hobby drills and put it in a makita screwdriver. Time saved and since its done fasters the holes are straighter.
Magnetization+
love my airbrushes , I have 2, but honestly I spend more time properly thinning paints, buying airbrush specific paints and cleaning the airbrush then I do actually painting... so in the end I thnk the time vs just a brush equates .but I still totally agree that your end result is at a higher standard and I recommend them but its something to consider for those on the fence... besides just being able to prime with an airbrush and saying forever goodbye to rattlecans is a glorious thing...love your channel dude!
You can also just get a regular cheap desk swivel lamp and then get a daylight led bulb at whatver brightness you prefer
I love your honesty
For lights you can get 2x ikea clamp-on lights and put daylight bulbs in them
Thanks for this video. I agree about the airbrush. I bought one from Amazon for $70 including a portable compressor. My biggest issue, is I would like to have a booth to catch the particles in the air so I dont paint up my table and wall. Also, I don’t have a dedicated space so it’s a pain to have to set it up and break it down. Any recommendations on a cheap booth?
Cardboard boxes, I have one laid flat on my floor, which is where I paint though you could use a desk or anything really, then I taped some cardboard on the back and sides
I've sold some painted minis I have 3d printed and the machine paid for it's self in 1 mini... :D So I propose getting a 3D printer and than selling a few minis or things for friends. I colleague of mine sold about 300 Hairy Pjotr wands for a wedding and got back the price multiple times. The hobby can be quite self supporting if you sell a few things :D
Doesn't using wax paper on your palette prevent water from transferring through the sheet and hydrating the paint?
Thank you Z! Always great advice
Do those Anycubic 3D printers require ventilation? or is it completely self-contained? I have only a small room in which i could put one
In my environment, a wet palette is actually a big mistake. It's very humid here, and in the time it takes me to, for example, basecoat a tunic, the paint thins and thins and thins. Porcelain on top of cloth on top of a freezer block works FAR, far better.
Super helpful video! :)
Would you say it is necessary to get an airbrush spray booth as well next to an airbrush?
I´m painting in my regular room at my home office desk and do not want to mess up my set up.
Really depends. If you spray just one mini, I don't think it's necessary. If you spray a whole army, it's necessary
Thanks 😊
Hey, how'd you get the 'new' wet palette? I've been stuck in "Pre-Order v.2" Since September.
Paint brush life!
Your IPA at 9:46 looks about like mine in my wash and cure. You do any type of filtering to try and clean up your IPA or just toss it and get a new batch?
I’m an absolute beginner, so videos like this are fantastic
Absolute minimum tools:
- Your model(s)
- side cutters
- hobby knife
- plastic cement and/or super glue
- small round paint brush
- paints
- pallette (could be a foil sheet or plastic)
- water cup
Everything in this video are good to get when you can afford them.
Thanks 🙏
Been painting minis for over 20 years, I have 10 fully well painted 40K armies and I’ve never used an airbrush. If you don’t really enjoy painting I guess the airbrush is a good way to get it done faster, and if you enjoy that cartoony look that the airbrush achieves, I guess, but I like painting, and don’t mind that it takes time.
Same. Absolutely agree.
What light temperature are you using for painting? I do have a similar lamp, but I find "daylight" setting a bit to blue.
Airbrush is on my mind for a while!
first thing my partner did when she started painting, spilt the nuln oil...
6:17 Rock and Stone!
The only problem I’ve had with cheap airbrushes is they constantly stop functioning after so many uses. But yeah it doesn’t really change how it paints.
IMHO H&S airbrush is worth the price. I used to use a cheap chinese one and the process itself was similar, but I had this mental block each time before engaging in an "airbrushing session", because it was a hassle to clean it up afterwards.
Great video, it's very good!🙂🙂
What paint case is that you are using?
Redgrass wet palette is cool but they can't release new bunch since September and it's something weird. I don't know what schedule to supply do they have, but pre-ordering it seems to be some eternal process - I ordered it in September and still waiting for it. It's ridiculous.
Great video mate! I have the mighty 8k and this is the best printer I ever had. Where is that bear from btw? You know I love bears ;) ❤
Loot!
get 2-3 cheap brush, couple of paints for your starting minis, primer, side cutter, cheap headlamp for tenner (100 pounds for lamp bruh..) spend like 30-40 pounds MAX.
Bro the milliput part had me dead
I recently got an airbrush, it's one of those pocket air compressor ones but if anything I think it's great for what I need it for. I mainly prime with it but plan to try other stuff once I'm more comfortable with it
Waxed parchment paper is super cheap too.
5:10 same here, I have a 10€ airbrush from aliexpress and a 140€ airbrush from H&S. Obviously the H&S is way nicer, better quality, more precise, but the 10€ works just fine if you know how to use it.
H&S is nicer, but i don't think it is so much better for 130$ Also needles and air valves are expensive and can be damaged very easily. I would pick Iwata over H&S only because of steel valves.
@@Ziforigin hi, I got the evolution silverone with two needles for 140€, what Iwata model could I get in that pricerange with two needles? I don't really know about their models, thanks
@@hav6301 hey, i got the same one. Iwata hp-c if you want 0.3mm nozzle and hp-b if you want 0.2mm. nozzle size depends on what you want to do more: quick zenithal, painting vehicles and priming -> 0.3. Detailed precise work -> 0.2. but really your H&S is not bad, if you are not breaking nozzles and bending needles as much as I do :)
@@hav6301 i don't know if they have models with 2 needles/nozzles,but i'll check tomorrow
I thought you don't want to use wax paper for a wet pallet so the water can permeate the parchment while wax paper would prevent that.
For 3d printing, what about air filtering? That adds a lot of money aswell. Or do you think its not needed?
Very individual. I have one spare room where I can put it and open windows wide open when working with it. Also depends on the printer and resin
6:18
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?!
Really good 👍
Regarding airbrushing, how necessary is a spray booth? I've been using a Master's Touch booth from Amazon but I always see people just spraying at their desk with no booth. Do I not need it? I'd actually be able to spray at my desk instead of setting up a whole new table in another room just to use the damn airbrush.
If you are using waxed parchment paper, the entire purpose of the wet pallet, to get water through the paper and into your paint to keep it wet, is stoped, because waxed paper dos not let water through. the ripple dropplet effect of the waxed paper is a result of the water being repelled by the wax.
You can try a simple experiment to prove that waxed parchment paper works fine. Take the slightly waxed parchment paper and put one on the wet palette and the other on top of your table. Then apply paint to both and see which lasts usable longer
Why does this feel like an Ad presented by someone I respect?
"Everything you do with an airbrush can be done with a regular brush"
Well, yes ... but i can't get a decent white without an airbrush. It will never look white enough imo
Meeh, thats the problem as a kid money was the wall, now money is not a problem, but finding time is. Watched a few now, might get some basic set for Christmas and one ak set I have seen on their website and take it from there. Thanks for all the time you put in, might go from spectator to creator next year, regards and keep posting Ill sub right now.
aintnoway someone starting warhammer in 2023 needs a $700 3d printer.
3d printers aren’t that expensive unless you want a 8k like his. All you could just get is an elegoo mars 2
the $700 for the printer is less than the $1500+ for the GW mini's needed to build your army. the printed mini's average $1 or less each.
@@bruced648 If you are just starting out you are likely buying 1 box of mini's probably a squad of space marines or a starter set with some paints...Maybe a combat patrol at most. You arent just gunna jump right into a full 2k point tournament army when you probably havent even held a paint brush since primary school. Reccomending 3D printers to someone just starting out is dumb. Same with the travel case, who would need such a thing at the start of their hobby? no one. An airbrush right away? I dont think, get some spray can primers first. This video is just to advertise over priced products to misinformed people in order to scam them out of some affiliate money.
@mirmonkey1 actually, I agree with you! I don't own a 3D printer myself, but can see it's value. personally, I prefer to support the games I play and more importantly, the stores that sell them.
on the price point. you can pick up a simple resin printer for about $250.
to get started in 40k:
base rule book $60 - required
any codex $60 - at least 1 required
1 combat patrol $130 - recommended
before you even build your first troop mini, your into the game at a minimum of $250. and most combat patrol box sets barely give you an introduction size force.
again, I agree that most of the vid is not directed towards the 'new' player.
@@bruced648 dude $120 of that plus the tax is free if you use the internet for free non infringing sights like wahapedia, 3D printing warhammer property is stealing and damages the company and the game
Regarding Airbrush, what kind of ventilation do you use, i was told you should get a ventilation system when using aibrush.
I don't use ventilation system. So far I didn't find it necessary, but if I sprayed way more, maybe it could be worth it
@@Zumikitofor me I just use a half mask
His beard probably works just as well.
what lens do you use?
Never seen your channel, you cropped up, but gotta say, fucking GREAT BEARD BRO!
bro i felt attacked about the null oil hahah i totally spilled some recently.
What’s your thoughts on the reusable paper that Redgrass makes?
It works, but I still prefer my good ol parchment paper from supermarket.
What is the mini at 3:05 pls ?
What shelves are those?
maybe you got an amazing cheapo airbrush because I have 2 cheap ones (don't know where you're finding them for $5, they are usually like $30) but the cheap ones are pretty much only good for base coats. I could probably manage some of the things I do with my iwata, but just an $80 iwata is leagues better for detail work.
can you just use a cheap airbrush? yeah. but they splatter. they don't give consistent performance. they clog a lot. they don't have as fine of a point. but sure, I used one for a year before I got a used iwata and realized the difference.
Same here. If you already have the talent you're probably going to get alright results with any airbrush you pick up (I don't). If you're just starting to learn then the neo (that's what I picked up for around that price anyways) will allow you to learn without negatively hindering you. I might suggest for anyone not sure a $100 cheap set that includes a compressor to start (knowing that you'll likely only use for priming and base coating but at least you no longer have to rely on the weather for priming) then upgrade to the neo when you're ready to take a stab at anything more (or when the funds allow). There's a few comments about the super cheap pocket compressors being alright but they don't supply consistent pressure and you don't want to fight the air as well as the brush.