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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 sdpn employee wars
05:00 The Panthers have been bad
17:00 The Toronto MEEEDDDIIAAAA and Marner's injury
40:30 The Newfoundland Growlers officially cease operations
55:00 The East playoff race is so bad
1:21:00 The Leafs have an awful schedule to end the year
1:31:00 McDavid is going to make history
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In Finland the player has to give permission for any information other than "they are injured" being given about their injury. Because it's patient privacy law.
For real. As an American who works in health care, I spent that whole segment googling if Canada has something equivalent to HIPAA
Agreed, Having people discuss your health, especially those who don't know you, is violating to some people. As someone who works in healthcare, it's violating to me personally. It's no one's business what his injury is and anyone discussing it beyond, "he's injured and out for now" is a waste of airtime. I'm surprised this appears so difficulty to comprehend.
@@Mak_Trvln_SLP There's a big difference between medical conditions (which are never made public)and a broken fistula or a fractured thumb, they are NHL players under constant media limelight, get real and get over it.
@josephstalin4906 as an ICU nurse, no player has ever had a broken fistula (its not a bone)
@@connorloughnane1534 I have no idea what fistula is and how it ended up in my post it was supposed to be word finger, probably my stupidphone's dictionary suggestion I don't know.
Jesse is wrong about disclosuring ALL injuries in hockey.
Dangle is right on this one.
Disclosing
It’s a thing in all other leagues
@@collinclary5762 to appease gamblers? That doesn't make it right
@@collinclary5762for example in the nba they don’t really target an injury, its not as rough, football is different but man the amount of stars that miss time in football i wish it was different
@@collinclary5762
that doesn't make it the right thing to do
Jesse's looking at the injury thing from a gambling or realistic standpoint, which doesn't really work here. Steve and Adam are right when they point out that opponents go after the injured body part. Jesse's defense on that about suspending the player was just funny.
I personally believe that a players right to privacy and healthcare should take precedent over sweaty sports obsessed dudes betting on it.
@@abramkoucheki Exactly!
I’ve never understood the level of disclosure in American sports, like I have no right to people’s medical information just because I want to bet on sports
Maybe the team should be required to disclose injuries, but only to the league. That’d protect the players but wouldn’t expose them to targeting. Plus that is a perfect setup for some team to perform some espionage to scout their opponents by pulling a heist at the league office.
For all we know this may already be how it works
Yo Adam be Wyld'in', the BOS@NSH game was an incredible goalie duel for 53 whole minutes.
Also, Ryan Donato went to the Wild in the Coyle trade. Just thought I'd throw that in.
Steve needs to do his Elmo voice if he wants the Leafs to win the cup.
mandating injury disclosure even partially for the benefits of gambling sounds like deeply unbalanced priorities to me, i just dont think we are entitled to private medical information (maybe that’s partially what’s grating on mitch? being in pain and unable to play is already a mental task but id be irritated too tbh in his position) and there is a history of targeted contact when an injured player returns to the lineup. jesse’s take that they should be able to take it if they aren’t injured enough to be completely taken out of the lineup and that someone who does do that would get suspended is so off and is almost too idealistic when that’s not how it would or does work in practice
The NHL Teams will never tell you the specific injury b/c if Vegas says Stone's back is fucked up, then all 31 other teams WILL target Stone's back for 82 games of the year.
I think Jesse is wrong when it comes to transparency in injuries for players. Because once that player comes back. It will be targeted. It's a contact league. Discrepancy has its place.
Exactly. Hockey is a contact sport but it has far more capacity for specific, targeted contact on individuals. Teams develop playbooks on their opponents down to each player. If there’s a known recurring injury, that gets targeted in the playoffs.
Yup, it’s almost like he didn’t watch Edmonton vs Calgary.
Imagine if someone tried to (specifically) go for Matthew Tkachuk's sternum last year. 😬
Usually Jesse doesn't have bad takes but this one hits. "We should have injury transparency because we cover the sport". What? That's not even a reason.
yea better to be safe than sorry
willingly disclose injuries in playoffs? absolutely not. they'll be targeted guaranteed, public figures but personal information therefore would need their consent. their health is not for your story.
Edit: also, "mississauga doesn't have land" cant they just take down the Playdium and turn that land into a small arena or something? or is that not big enough
I live here, and nah it’s not big enough
Taking a break from sucking up ground water from my basement to watch SDP for a bit.
...just to cheese jesse now, i want the NHLPA to work into the next CBA a ban on disclosure of specifics for player injuries by team or league staff. like if an active player wants to publicly say they got a specific injury cause someone else was a dbag, i'm cool with that. but if a player wants their health to be their business, i'm also cool with that.
I agree with Steve's theory that a vague "upper body" or "lower body" injury was reported because they didn't want a psycho to target that nagging injury and take them out.
you can feel the excitement in the boys knowing playoffs are near
they're all vibrating, lmao
Legit, can’t wait.
Jesse, you’re missing Steve’s point about disclosing injuries.
If you disclose what injury a player is dealing with and then they return to the next game, even if you remove the injury label from them, that information is now out there and a dirty player can target that injury. Removing the injury tag does not erase the existence of an injury.
Example: Report comes out Rielly has been dealing with a bruised rib. He misses two games and comes back against a team like Florida. What’s stopping Nick Cousins from taking a two minute cross checking penalty (at the most) by two handing Rielly in the side and targeting that injury?
In a contact and prison rules sport like hockey you have to keep that sort of info close to your chest. Can’t be telling everyone else every injury your players are going through.
not a problem in other leagues
Other leagues dont allow you to so readily attack someone else with such minimal consequence @@collinclary5762
All i want as a bolts fan is for us not to blow a 4-1 lead 😂
Boy do I have news for you lmao, how’s it feel to be hit by the Apollo dodge ball for the exact end score?
Todd Skirving is an alumnus of my college (RIT), and I remember when he played on the hockey team for a few years while I was there. Absolutely stand up dude, and I followed his time with the Growlers on facebook after he graduated. He cared so much about that team and community, so I'm sure he's absolutely torn up with the situation this week. Feel bad for him and all the players, especially with the timing of this decision. Hope he and others on the team are able to integrate into some of the other teams in the league.
Every time a team in the Eastern Conference makes a push for a Wild Card spot, it feels like the players remember their mid-April vacation plans and go back to slumping. If you're a young player who competes and wants to learn, Tortorella is a great coach. If you like to mail it in, then maybe you're not going to like playing in Philly right now.
Not saying Marner's statement wasn't an awkward one, but I'm genuinely surprised at the disingenuous take put forth, here. Both Red & Blue Radio Stations ran multiple segments on Mitch's injury and time away from the team DAILY. Even Jonas and Mirtle were podcasting about it. Again, Marner has always been awkward with the media after his contract negotiation and is so, here. But the visual representation of this entire press conference is in stark contrast to what was initially reported
The west wildcard chase last year was garbo. Calgary, Nashville, and Winnipeg having the world's greatest mid off to have the displeasure of "wasting 8 days" as the retired Darryl Sutter would say.
Milwaukee Admirals with Saros in net came really close to getting this WC2 spot last year.
Steve needs to stream the entire Leafs Cup run this year. Hat guy commentates game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals would be hilarious.
Should someone tell them matthews already had a 100 point season when he had 46 assists and 60 goals
Torts def wasn't talking about Drysdale in his first game back in 5 weeks. Prolly talking about Farabee
The flyers takes on this podcast were wild. That was one of the biggest WTF comments 😂
@@vacantalleyways I was just typing out a long comment about how they think Torts and Briere could be butting heads and I completely disagree with them. I think it’s extremely obvious that there is a game plan in place in Philly and that is for Torts to instill a culture of winning and hard work and he is relaying to Briere who he thinks isn’t going to cut it. Torts is more aware than anyone that this team has lots of work to do and I highly doubt he was annoyed that Briere sold some pieces at the deadline so I’m not sure where that take was coming from. Playoffs would be nice sure, but that’s not the long term focus of this team.
@vacantalleyways between the non-existent feud between Torts and Briere, Adam saying no one knew Gauthier was available (Briere talked with 8+ teams over several months), mentioning in the past Torts didn't want Coots as captain. I get they won know everything about all 32 teams, but so many assumptions are seemingly presented as fact and it drives me insane lol. I'd love for them to get Charlie O'Connor on to clarify a lot of these things if they spend this much time talking about the Flyers
@@cheddarandsourcream totally agree! Torts went into this season saying the team we end with is going to be different from what we start with (personnel wise) wish these guys did some research on teams outside their beloved leafs!
I know you’ve talked about him a lot but I was hoping you would talk about the new Torts’ clip
Great first stream Adam
The satisfaction of commenting "FIRST!" has been stripped away from me yet again by the sex bots 😞
Only 3 players ever had 100 assists in a season but the thing is, Gretzky did it 11 times.
I think Mitch was actually talking about what happened right before he fell on that play. He didn't shoot at the open net on the PP and then fell after wrapping around along the boards. The "why didn't he shoot it" conversation lasted like 3 days.
Google Podcasts still works in Canada for now. It's only the US that was cancelled for some reason.
Fun fact the steelheads are actually moving to Brampton, by moving 5 minutes down the road
The SDP team discovered a cheat code of hockey: if the Leafs want a player, he must be underrated...
Jesse had his first really bad take in a while with the whole injury report
I literally went to the shop for a Clenched shirt. 😂😢
Justin Brazzeau for the Bruins played in the ECHL just last season for the Maine Mariners
Is it really home advantages when both the Toronto and Panthers are better at away games?
Winner of the Drew vs Justin poll should get a $1 per month raise
Jesse: Adam, you have to pick one... You're just naming all the match ups, I need a team
Adam: I'm talking through my decision, do you want me to just sit here and think?
You guys fight like brothers, it's amazing. Also, Adam would be the oldest, Steve = middle, Jesse = baby bros. It's a perfect balance
The problem with hockey in Newfoundland is the desire to have them play at mile one/MBC. A qmjhl team could work in a smaller arena closer to the central/west coast where travel by bus is more practical and the need to sell out a bigger arena wouldn't loom over the team
Yall need to stream Colorado - Edmonton on Friday
the sweater sweater🔥 go bolts⚡️
Hi Guys, Did you guys post a welcome to Jacob Quillan yet? Haven't seen anything.
Chicago Blackhawks has the largest fan base turbo
"1 point for clenching"
S.D.P. LETSGOOOOO
Is the ad free not available yet? I can’t seem to figure out how to change it on yt
Toronto meeeeedia has spent more time bashing Torts the last month than all season put together for fans+media in Philly. Seems like a lot of assumptions get made and accepted (Torts and Briere not getting along, Torts not being the one who wanted Cout as captain etc). I'd love if you got Charlie O'Connor (Flyers beat reporter) on to talk about these things and maybe dispel any misunderstanding and add more context to everything surrounding the Flyers
Couldn't agree more!
My family all met up in Vagas for a couisins wedding as it was cheaper than flying to Calgary.... Living in NFLD has its downsides sometimes.
Maddie may run the switcher but Drew edits the LFRs so if Steve isn't careful drew can superimpose brad marchands face over top of steves
penguins are going to bounce the leafs lol
I was really hoping we would get a montreal-leafs game stream😢
Steve: The team needs Mitch Marner
Also Steve: They should’ve traded him when they had the chance, they’ll never win now
Yes.
The way I would interpret that is that the team as it’s constructed needs Mitch marner. But, had they traded him there would be room to construct the team in a way that would be more successful
@@AssumeAssassin You could say that, but if you look at comparable trades like Tkachuk, it’s almost impossible to become a better team trading away one of your best players. Also, this free agency was below average in terms of talent so you couldn’t have even gone that route (plus you’d be overpaying anyways)
Sure you reallocate that cap space, but I’d rather have 1 guy scoring 90 points making 11m and another scoring 20 making 950k as opposed to 2 guys making 6m each scoring 100 combined.
@@DerikNotDerekfair enough, I’m not supporting any point one way or the other. As a Habs fan I don’t have much of a dog in the fight.
Steve is def becoming more and more unbearable.
If you're talking about how to run a Sport and you're primarily looking through the lens of Sports Betting, you're doing sports wrong.
Fun fact: Edmonton has 2 of the 3 parts of the Zach Hyman trade. The only one that Edmonton doesn't have is who Toronto picked in the 7th (Ryan O'Connell, btw), as Greg McKegg is a player for the Oilers AHL team.
Edit: Also, Vegas-Edmonton would be *KILLER* TV. You think they're not gonna bring up the series last year to drum up interest?
Watching this 5 days later, and the Pens are tied for the second wild card spot even after losing in OT to the Leafs last night. Kinda makes me laugh.
Just an FYI, DC may be a large market, but a lot of people living there are not originally from there.
I'll buy the ad free tier if yall stop doing better help sponsorships
Leafs' home advantage means nothing to no one ever.
Clinched 😂😂😂😂 omg you kill me 😂😂😂😂😂, please please sell it in the storeeeee
As a Habs fan, I would ABSOLUTELY buy a Leaf's 'clinched' shirt.
Still can't get over the ice caps and st John's maple Leafs
With the talk about the growlers and arena capacity in the GTA I wonder what the guys think the future tenant(s) of FirstOntario Centre in Hamilton will be. It seats 15,000+ and they're spending ~400 million on modernizing it, meanwhile the owner of the bulldogs (Andlauer) says he wants to keep that team in Brantford long-term. The AHL bulldogs worked in Hamilton for a long time until they were relocated to be closer to Montreal.
The bobby ryan stuff is mental
If you guys think that’s crazy, please pull up Montreal‘s last 8 games of this season and look at the way their schedule is set up
Clench 🤣
Matthews has already had a 100-point season lol
Matthews had 100+ points in his first 60 goal season, the year he won the Hart.
I would love to see what torts could do if he was hired by the leafs 😂😂😂
Yesterday wasnt the premium episode
I wouldn't care about Mitch being bitchy at the media if outside noise didn't very obviously affect his game and get to him. I don't like it in that it signals to me that he's in his own head and that bodes poorly going into the playoffs.
"8 out of 10 teams makes the playoffs."
-Jesse Blake, reminding Steven that his team did not make the playoffs in their fantasy football league 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i wonder how they have the playoffs at the same time as the NBA, with both of them starting round 1 on April 20th. If anyone shares a building, which some of these teams do, then who is getting priority for the 1st game. Bruins and Celtics are both going to have home field so who gets to play home first?
The Oilers also have a really tough shedule theyhave 9 Games remaining with 3 b2bs .
Why is Mitch mad it was called a high ankle sprain and then his coach says he's days away from being days away a timetable not consistent with that injury. Maybe if the team wasn't blowing smoke reporters wouldn't speculate 🤷♂️.
I'll keep saying it with Torts what's the bigger story right now him and the media or this young team collapsing right in the home stretch? They already had a huge culture problem and a collapse like this could really hurt some kids development going forward. I think the team knows this is his game and is fine with it besides the Couturier stuff.
Bob Cole, Newfoundland and Labrador legend
The reason hockey doesn’t work in Brampton is….uh…nevermind
What? Please explain to us.
Steve talking about the Pens still technically being in it. Dude NO ONE in the Atlantic has been eliminated officially yet lol
Any talk about the Bobby Ryan trainwreck this week?? 👀
What happened with him??
How come you guys didn't talk about Jacob Quillan signing with the Leafs?
Put the ECHL team in Brampton it’s almost 700K and growing rapidly!
Just a couple weeks ago wasn't Torts complaining about others throwing tantrums?
Mcdavid needs 3 points a game for the rest of the season.
Hmmm, I'm in Japan, maybe I'll order a book.
A Port Perry ECHL team Let's GOOOOOO
Also... How hasn't anyone ever corrected Adam for saying Matthews hasn't hit 100 points before? 106 points in 73 games in the year he scored 60. Was on pace for like 108 points the year before that too.
Adam is crazy to say any series with Avs would be lowest rated, Nathan MacKinnon alone will boost any series. Plus they won a cup in 2022. That's a terrible take.
This massive torts convo... He lost a elite goalie in Carter Hart
Marner has a right to be like that to the media that hound him constantly. Just today I saw like 50 pics of him at the Raps games and most of them were negative headlines about him. It's very toxic how people in TO and the TO media treats him. And it's ironic that you guys defend the media when you have ties to the media.
I hate the whining about scheduling. If they play that Saturday it’s not enough time, but if they play on Sunday it’s “how dare the leafs aren’t on a Saturday night!”
Can’t have it both ways.
Jesse being a bit ridiculous on the injury front.
Hey Adam, Matthews had 106 points in 21-22 1:33:20
Fuller
The NHL doesn't want us to know how injured these players are for legal reasons. I think the NHL has a lot of skeletons
Okay when it comes to the Islanders, I understand they have this perception as a “boring” hockey team from when Trotz coached but guys I promise you it’s not how they play anymore. The neutral zone trap was lessened when Lambert took over and it’s been completely overhauled since Roy took over. Since day 1 Roy has preached transition and speed. The Isles do not sit back in the zone on purpose anymore.
Believe me I know you guys can’t watch every game and specifically the Isles it doesn’t make sense but yeah the boring thing is years old now and it gets annoying to keep hearing it. At least the style of game is not what it was during those conference finals runs
Someone tell Adam Matthews has 106 points 2 season ago
Goilers
Why don't people talk about McDavid having 100 assists? He assuredly will reach that mark this season, and he'll become only the 4th player in NHL history to do that. I get assists aren't goals, but 100 is a big deal. Orr (1x), Mario (1x) and Gretzky (ELEVEN TIMES...IN A ROW), are the only players to ever do that. I know McDavid is talked about as one of the greatest of all-time already, as he should be, but the lack of talk about 100 assists is baffling to me.
LOL literally unpaused the video and Jesse brought it up. Welp....I'm an idiot. Lol
BOOHOO, the Devils went to game 7 and have like what one day break stop the whinying.
Jesse is nuts - the league should not disclose injuries, which puts players at risk in subsequent games, because he wants to gamble.
The leafs chocked because Carey Price is a GOD...