Should I Buy a Turbo Levo? Specialized Turbo Levo Comp Review | eMTB
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- The 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo Comp: an eMTB that's got incredible specs for an incredible price. At just under $6000 this electric mountain bike is sure to be a favorite for riders of all abilities. We'll help you answer the question: should I buy a Turbo Levo?
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Great review! I have the 2020 Expert and I love it. Specialized send them out in the UK with 2.6 on the rear which I think is pretty awesome as we definitely have to deal with a lot of muddy/wet trails!
I went and bought one last Saturday!! Upgraded from the Lapierre overvolt.. So glad i did!! Great channel and really good quality reviews thanks
Extreme, gnarly, Kudos for refraining from embedding a music track in this video !!! 😀😆😉
I'm getting one today can't wait . Thanks for your input :)
HUGE levo believer: The Brose S Mag when trail tuned feels smoother than any other manufacturer (my opinion, but generally correct :)). I love that I can change my support on the fly. The best aspect for me is the minimalist cockpit as you mentioned. I always find I am looking down at my screen but with no screen I am just out there biking. Love it!
I have had this bike for two weeks, yesterday I rode for61 miles on the Ecomode and had 8% left.
Levo is still running at the top of the emtb game for 2020. Solid review!
Yeah maybe in South Carolina where the weathers nice and the conditions are perfect. Not so much in northern England where it rains most of the time and there are more names for the different types of mud than an Inuit has types of snow. 18 months and on my third motor. Don’t think e-bikes are quite ready for real world north England conditions.
Julian Bradley i live in northern england i have had a focus jam 2 for nearly 2 years, i have had it up hamsterley in shit weather and i have ran it umpteen times through beamish woods, i have had it out in the shittest weather you could possibly imagine, and over the time i have had it i have never had any problems whatsoever, maybe you should drop thee overpriced levo, i stay away from levos due to the terrible value for money alone.
Merida e one sixty not far behind, maybe surpasses...
We love ours!
Levo’s eat battery’s and motors like no other ebike. Very unreliable
Beautiful review.
Got the Levo SL ($6,500) after going back and forth between the two. Using only the Level 1 power about 90-95% of the time; so, the battery lasts very well. Like Jeff Brown, I have done more riding in the past 10 days than I had in the last year...LOL
And then ordered a base Levo for my wife which should arrive at my LBS next week.
So, we should be back on the Flume Trail at nearby Lake Tahoe very soon.
Yes. We have been "Levo'd" at our house.
Again, thank you for the review. A spectacular bike!!! I hope specialized reads this because here are a few minor things I would love to see on their new models
1. Make the walk assist a push forward button, not a push up button. My thumb was not happy pushing up.
2. When changing modes, have the beeps indicate what mode you are in. 1 beep for eco, 2 beeps for trail and 3 beeps for turbo.
3. I bought a 3rd party motor cover and it got really used over rocks and such. Would be nice to have that included to protect that battery/motor area, or sold as an option.
4. Put the cheapest wheels on the base Levo, but how about Swiss DT 1901 and 1501 wheelsets as you go up the line?
5. 10/11t to 50t rear gearing
6. Put a gasket seal under the TPU to prevent water ingress.
7. Make the TPU unit completely waterproof
Earl Teigrob Bigg hell yeah fir point #2
Great review!!! Thank you. I bought the base Levo and upgraded everything. However, a few days ago I bought the comp in black for my daughter and only upgraded the drive train to 12 speed SRAM Eagle X01. I live in Canada so only got in a few rides before the snow but just got back from a week of riding in Phoenix and the bike was amazing!!! The only thing I really wanted was a lower gear for steep technical climbs. Unlike a normal bike, if you drop your cadence too much you lose power so lower gearing allows me to keep up my cadence for the gnarly technical climbs. Whether others will want this, of course, will all depend on the person and where they ride. I might also drop the front chain ring from 32 to 30 if I want even a lower gearing. All in all these Specialized bikes are a game changer...better then I could have imagined!!!
Earl Teigrob this is great feedback for those looking at the bike! Thanks!
Earl Teigrob love mine so far. Put a 27.5 wheel on rear that had a e13 cassette. 9-42 plenty of range!
On the other side. I saw riders putting on bigger chainrings front. Makes sense when one is "attacking"the lower end of climbs.
Hey guys, battery range and power uphill is a big deal for me. I have a health condition where I can't spend too much time with HR over 100bpm (resting is around 60). I can pump HR to over 150 but it has to be for a super short period. How do you think I'd go on this bike? Interested in doing mostly 30 min to 1 hr rides with medium climbs so hoping the battery and power is sufficient for this.
@@JB-ch9ws Hi Jaimie, I have exercise-induced asthma, and I have the same issue re: needing to carefully manage my heart-rate. I had been out of mountain-biking for many years, as my condition worsened, and then I discovered the Levo. I got the 2020 Levo in the fall, and it changed everything, because now I can perfectly manage my heart-rate so that my asthma doesn't kick in. The app is brilliant. You can dial in your pedal-assist levels that you control on the bike. So for me, I have eco-mode set to 20% assistance, then trail mode at 50%, and then turbo at 100%. You may find that you want to have a higher % assistance for eco mode depending on your condition and unique needs. Around here, there are very challenging trails, with loads of hills. Those hills would destroy me before (not leg strength, just the asthma kicking in from the high-intensity burst exercise), and I would be near passing out. Now I can manage them brilliantly. I can do almost all of them in trail mode, with the rare hill needing turbo. The rest of the trails are more cross-country in nature, and I get a very full workout (my apple watch doesn't lie!!) on them, while keeping my heart-rate where I can function. Buying this bike has been the most brilliant investment, because it's brought back so much joy in this sport, and really re-opened closed doors. As for ride-time, I got the bike reviewed in this video- Levo Comp (aluminum), with the 700 watt battery. I can do two laps of a mixed cross-country lake loop (40kms) and have 30% of my battery left over, or about 2.5 hours of very hilly, technical riding, really pushing myself and the bike, and have about 30% left over. If you want to do longer rides, you can just tell the app how many hours or miles you need, and it will mete out the assistance so that you will not run out of battery. 4 hours has been my longest ride, and (without even using the app), I still had battery left. Hope this perspective helps- cheers!
Great review!
Hey Scott -
Great store. You guys should be telling prospective buyers of the high failure rate on the Brose 2.1 motors and when and if the problems have been solved. EVERYBODY I know with a 2019 and 2020 Levo, about 8 people, have had at least one motor failure. While Specialized has been replacing the motors under warranty, customers should be told whether or not their model has received the updated motor. Customers should know whether or not they bought a bike with a motor that will fail.
"oopp, choose your own adventure- WIIDE" baha love it:)
Rented this bike in St George Utah. Awesome bike. My wife was able to navigate trails with comfort.
Bruce Ter Veen they’re the best!
I love you guys, keep doing what your doing!
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Hey! This is so nice, thank you so much!
I love my Turbo Levo
Done more riding in the last 3 months than I had in the last year
Jeff Brown That’s my favorite thing about em! More riding since it takes less time
Guide RE have code pods. Should be powerful 🤘. I put them on my normal MTB to do mountain of hell last year. Worked great.
Great review guys. 👍👍
Thanks Andrew!
WhTs the price?
I’ve done about 350km on mine and really pleased
Good for about 40 miles and 5,000 feet of ascending which is enough
In really muddy conditions there isn’t enough clearance on the UK spec 2.6 inch rear tyre so a smaller rear tyre will be ordered before next winter
Would like to compare it with the SL version
Great review. Do you feel like you’re low enough when riding it for cornering? Had a 29 hard tail before going back to 27.5 full suss and I always found I felt too high up on the 29. Just wanted your thoughts, thanks.
After a lot of research, I'll buy one of these bad boys this weekend. My wife (who regularly does Triathlons) thinks I'm a puss for buying an eMBT but I need a motorbike to keep up with her when we cycle together.
As someone who both eMTBs and does triathlon tell her...she’s right haha but eMTB is just more fun!
AngryMegaMind let us know what you think😁
Let me know how the motor noise is.
Hi all I'm from new zealand and cycleways gave me a comp to try for a wk.(I'm new to this ebike thing but ridden a couple before)well all i can say is wowwww i think i was spoiled on it just so loved it have tried one other brand levo is out in front. the price tag hurts though at $9.7k NZ dollars. wot i would like to see on it is a digital display like bosch batt in % terms and an estimated kms left in batt. love the idea of mission control app for general stuff speed and distance but love that you can fine tune your power to suit you. yes if i could afford one i would get a comp at the drop of a hat
Hey Mike! Take a look at the TCD (turbo connect display). It's pretty cheap in the states and gives you all the basic information that a Bosch Intuvia would give you. Hope you can pick one up!
COUGHED and spitted my tea!!! How much did you say???
I'd tell you but I don't want you to waste all your tea!
what do you think about buying a used e-bike? do extended miles of use have an effect on the performance of the battery/motor?
Just made a demo ride on this bike. It does feel great for the most part, but there are some things not mentioned, you will definitely feel the weight on the bike in twisty trails, balancing it takes some extra effort. Suspension is good but not plush, medium to large drops offs will feel hard on the landing. Riding a few brands, Specialized bikes have a very particular feel to them. If you like that and want it for trail riding go for it. I'm going for the kenevo at the same price.
Definitely there will always be extra weight on the eBikes. Also, I would agree that this is definitely not a bike for big drop offs. Kenevo is much more appropriate for that!
Hi Scott do you sell your T-shirt, great video 👍
You really convinced me. This is a very dynamic Video and one the best presented EBIKE review I seen.
I am purchasing the 2020 Specialized Levo Comp Carbo. Do you think the Carbo wort the extra $1000 ?
I was told it's smoother ride? I will be riding 4 to 5 times a week in the following year.WouldIseethedifference?
Take care :O) and Thank you again for the great review
Thanks so much! The Turbo Levo Comp is probably my favorite bike of the lineup in terms of riding performance and overall value. The Carbon of course will have better components and a lighter frame, but for the style of riding I do the aluminum is plenty light.
There is however definitely a weight difference and if you have the the extra $1000, it is probably worth the upgrade for the better components alone.
Good luck!
YES
In comparing the 2 Brose S mag Bikes Turbo Levo and E Stream AM4, which one would you prefer?
..YES!
What would you choose between a turbo levo comp and a hpc 140 action team? I don't know which one to pick, as they are the same price in Switzerland.
got my 2020 turbo levo right before the Stay home order, a few rides now and wow best bike I have ever had period. Does anyone know the MM size of the back tire? One thing, it seems on a app I use a lot I might have used the wrong MM size for the back tire. If anyone could help that would be great. Love it
Do not spray water on the motor area when washing! From personal experience it will disable it
On some pictures the top tube is bent, on some it's straight: the smaller the frame is the more bent it is or opposite?
Does your turbo levo cause the chain jump the gears? My Turbo levo comp does this at the the small rings as if the torque energy is too high. Happens to me on turbo high are turns and taking off a slow start to a ramped up takeoff.
I'm right on the edge between Med & Large Frame. any suggestions? currently riding a santa cruz TallBoy Medium. Are Ebikes diff? I've never owned a Specialized- do they run big or small?
Not sure that there are too many real upgrades; the Fox suspension works well at the price point, so I don't know why they changed. I got the 700wh battery thrown in and a discount on the carbon comp model , made the 2020 very questionable,.
Turbo Levo comp or expert???what do you thing???thanks for your great video...😉
robert havard thanks for the compliment! It’s a tough call but for my money I’d probably go with the comp. unbelievable specs for the price. Plus you can always upgrade derailleur and all that. But if money is truly no object, get that expert!
I like your Reviews. Still in research of getting a E-MTB. Brose s mag is a must. Would you personally prefer the feel of the Turbo Levo to the Evo AM4?
I just sold my Merida eONE Sixty 900, was a fantastic machine but looked out of date with the lunchbox battery on the front tube. Looking to update, rode a Levo Comp 2020 and was impressed with the performance but a number of people told me their stories with belt slipping problems. Is this a broader problem? any advice welcomed. Motor issue aside, the bike rode amazingly well.
2021 models no longer have the issue. Make sure your motor built date is after March 2020. Good Luck
Ive had 5 motor swaps on my 2020 S-works! Yes 5!! My local dealer has been great trying to sort out issues and swap motors for me. But trying to get in touch with Specialized and getting an answer why this hapens time and again is like geting blood out of a stone. Youd think you spend over 1000 punds on a bike youd get some customer service. I woudl stay away from the Brose engine util they sort it out. Its a shame, because the bike is dream to ride on.
What is your height and What size bikes did you ride?
are there any monitors where you can track all the route infos and batery life?
Unr3aLpm the best thing to use is the Specialized Mission Control app on your phone. It’s very detailed and offers route tracking and details on battery range.
The BLevo app does all this and much, much more. It's incredible and even better than the excellent Specialized app. Try it, you'll love it.
@@tcasex I use Blevo with my 2019 Turbo Levo. I cannot bypass the assistance limit with Blevo alone. Bypassing the assistance limit is possible with a mechanical device that causes the Levo's speed sensor to "lie" to the motor controller. The speed sensor reports a lower speed than the bike's actual speed. If you outfit your Levo with one of these mechanical devices, you can configure Blevo's speed and distance measurements to be accurate. If you don't do this configuration step, Blevo will say that your speed and your distance are less than they actually are.
BTW, there is no "speed limiter". The only thing that happens above the limit is that the motor consumes some of your pedalling power rather than adding to it. You really feel it on the flat, but it's easy to exceed the limit when riding down a hill.
Where is the trail located where you tried out the bike??
Nice bike once the motor restriction is gone!
Good review .I think manufacturer going a wrong path by putting too much batteries if riders are for recreation .Otherwise lighter bike &removable batteries on demand is better.Also the opening music ...If tone down a bit/ changed will be better ..Thanks
Check out the SL Bikes if you want a smaller battery!
Forgot to mention that the tradeoff for getting the 700 watt hr battery at same price is no carbon frame. The main frame is now aluminum vs Carbon for 2019.
Kayakkr not to “well, actually” you but the levo comp (aluminum) was $5949 with a 500wh. There was a 2019 Levo Comp Carbon but it was $6949. I was referring to the aluminum since this bike is the updated version of that.
On My one Turbo Levo FSR
2019 appear some cracks on frame nearly rear
triangle mount (engine side)
Specialized don't wanna exchange my frame
becouse is „after test"... 60miles around the shop
2 years ago. My one cracks... yours can too.
Love my bike, but... it's been in the shop 6 times. Not Thrilled . All my friends who own them have had the motor replaced . Next ebike will not be a Specialized .
yeah, have seen vids about these problems and that specialized has set forth a further two year warranty. hope my newly bought creo does not have the same motor
do you have to turn off the levo for completed to avoid speed limiter? or just by clearing the circle
You won't be stopped at 20 mph, it just won't propel you further with the motor at that point. Let me know if that answers the question!
I have a 2020 levo pro comp with 1800 miles and so far no problems. I love the bike. My friend has a 2019 levo pro with 4000 miles and the motor failed 3 weeks ago and is still in the shop. He has had the bike 18 months. We ride 15 miles every day on single track. We are easy on our bikes especially him. He weighs 145 pounds. I weigh 192 pounds. This worries me. I have an old 2014 Haibike with over 20,000 miles that has never had a motor problem and in fact never hooked up to a test machine.
have a chance to get a 2017 Turbo Levo. Should I get it
Have about 100 miles on my Turbo Levo Comp now and love the bike. As a package it just works really well. The bike feels lighter than it is except in the air where I can really feel the weight. My non e-bike is a 12 yr-old Santa Cruz Blur LT which was solid in the day but feels so dated now. My only issue with the Levo is that when I'm riding with others on non e-bikes I generally take my SC. I ride 90%+ of the time in Eco set to 5-10% assist to get a good workout and to prevent from running up on people on single track climbs but even at 5-10% it's faster. When riding with other e-bikers we get the same workout but just go faster and cover so much more ground. The Levo comp is like two bikes on one which is good in my book.
Levo or Levo SL? Preference?
dude just bought one of this turbo levo 2020 but the breaks are not the ones that you have on this bike .
it came with the sram level witch is not advertised on this model. should i complain to specialized?
No, your bike is the model below the one being reviewed so comes with the SRAM Level T brakes.
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I hate specialized tires. I,put assegei 2.5 dh casing tires front and rear. Getting ready to try 2.6 dhfs only becuase of rolling resistance. Love my levo! Changed tve front fork to 160 travel. I ride it on pretty tech downhill and enduro type trails. No need for a kenevo! The levo is like a trophy truck going fast down hill! The weight of it keeps the suspension active. I simply cant enough of riding it both,up or down the trails!
Harold Adams like the 160 fork on there!
costs?
What is the difference between Turbo Levo and Turbo Levo Comp
Any upgrades worth adding to a 2019?
Lyrik 160, Coil shock.
@@cosmicheretic8129 can you point me to specific models? I'm a n00b
@@OnTheSnap1 Sure the fork I have is a 2020 RS lyrik ultimate rc 160mm 42mm offset. Shock is a Marzocchi Bomber CR 210mmx55mm. There is good info on www.emtbforums.com under the Specialized thread.
2:41 FYI:
Pretty sure now all LEVOs except for the
S-Works comes with an 11- 42 cassette.
Killer review 👍🏽‼️
Vince F thanks!
How does this bike compare to the Bulls E-Stream EVO AM 4 27.5+ Thanks
Hey George! That would definitely be a long answer, but my general thoughts are that if you are a longtime eMTB rider, I'd go with the specialized and if you are newer to the sport the Bulls is likely the better option.
The Specialized ride is a bit more nuanced since it has smaller tires that are also 29" and other small things (i.e. the one click SRAM shifter that requires some thinking before you start climbing).
The BULLS offers a bit more versatility in terms of ease of use. Quick release on the seatpost, 2.8" tires that can easily go tubeless (although, specialized Levos can too), multiple gear shifting with one swift movement, and things like the Monkey Link accessories if you think you might also commute on it.
Hope this was helpful. Really, I don't think you'd be going wrong with either bike.
The factory support from Specialized is far better, I could not get support from Bulls. The Levo is clearly superior.
@@FlyRidesUSA Thanks I bought a Levo.. Should be delivered tomorrow
Levo vs comp?
How could u know that the motor is so powerfull if u riding only downhill. Show a video from a bikepark that you go uphill from bottom to the top.
Here's what I would recommend: ride it. You're never going to really get a sense of the power behind this bike even if we were riding it uphill. You've got to ride
'em!
I have had my Levo Expert for 10 months, it's been in the shop 5 times. Last month the battery died and Specialized can't find a 700 wh battery to replace it. Today the motor died ! These bike SUCK out loud for reliability. DON'T get one. My buddy and his Dad both had to have the motors replaced within 5 months of purchase. Never again will i get a ebike from Specialized.
I have seen this issue in other videos. The SL costs 6000-13000$. What a joke.
@@jerryx2000 WHATA??? HOW MUCH????? WHAT????
That sucks i was thinking of buying one is there no warranty
4 years warranty on specialized 2.1 motors
@@bullcross3 what happens after that? 8000$ lost?
Where is Hector Riding???.. it looks like a cool trail.
Yes please, what trail was that.
I get e bikes are relatively heavy.. but i noticed that your video's generally don''t touch this topic. From cars, motorcycles and any moving vehicle including people (Watts/kg)... power to weight is the key measurement and tells a lot about a bike's performance... So please start talking about power/weight.... as the tech advances over the next few years i think you'll start seeing more better power to weight...
damn...6kusd?
Covered everything but the motor needing replacement 7 times a year
Jesus the guy riding the bike is going about as slow as possible. What a baby.
i tried to watch this, why are you blinking so rapidly? weirded me out......
Tires are 2.6” front and rear
defenseandsafety they’ve actually now started shipping with 2.3 in the rear. Early ones shipped with 2.6, that has changed.
how can you pretend it's good value for money ? ALL other e-bikes are cheaper with the same equipment, what sets this bike appart is the frame, the motor, NOT the equipment, the YT decoy, has the AXS dropper, electronic shifting, the best Fox 36 kashima fork, for the same price, and it's a full carbon frame
pizzagorgonzola YT decoy is great If you don’t like customer support for sure!
With buying a e bike I,would lean towards a big brand becuase if it blows up they will have a better tech support. It will be easier ti deal with a bike shop. But buying a regular bike yes yt is the eay to go. Just about everyone can work,on there bikes. Only need yt dir a replacemebt frame. And hardware for pivots and derailleur hanger.
Harold Adams excellent points and we agree.
@@tcasex Agreed. The YT looks great on paper, but I don't want to be without my bike for weeks when I need service. Also, how much does it cost to ship and insure a bike to/from Germany from Canada? I don't even want to think about it. I have a local Specialized shop that has been awesome to deal with too.
the app is even better this year ? no, it's the same
Your name is pizza Gorgonzola. Pizza Gorgonzola. I will not be harassed by a poorly cheesed pizza.
Use the BLevo app instead. It's incredible.
There fun for awhile. The motor will breakdown and then they suck.
Yeah it's a bummer to have to bring them in. We will say, when issues do arise Specialized deals with them very quickly which is nice!
Should I Buy a Turbo Levo? With all the motor failures...I'd say HELL NO!!!!!
Turbo levo= Cadillac
Moped.
seen vids showing the motor has serious faults
Hey Dean! Brose provided a Firmware update back in the summer to address these issues. So far, we haven't seen any issues since the update.
@@FlyRidesUSA I have 3700 miles on my 2020 turbo levo comp with no motor problems. I only had the dropper seatpost fail after 2 years at 2745 miles. On my 3rd set of brake pads at 3264 miles and I did upgrade the front rotor to 220mm at 1600 miles. Original front tire and third rear. Third chain at 3621 miles. Such a fun bike and lots of great trail here in Northern California bay area.
nice bike till the motor /battery fail.And they will, sooner than later.Annoying af
Definitely haven't seen that problem on our end much. Sorry that's been your experience!
Fly Rides Electric Bikes that because you’re new to the sport And you Demo bikes I actually put long hard hrs day in and out on my bikes. My specialized ebikes have gone thru numerous battery’s and motors. I’ve almost done a full circle back to analog bikes. Less issues and failures.My brand new Levo is in the shop right now dead
still over priced
Agree. Spesh has to tag $1500 in marketing overhead onto each bike. Great bike and excellent engineering - but NOT a great value.
Still overpriced.
Constantin Suman i guess for some people 👀
Mountain bikes were over priced when they first came out, but once the competition starts to build up it will fall
@@martinlewis1015 I do think competition will drive prices down eventually. But our perspective is that, as with anything, you kind of get what you pay for. Yes, there are companies that offer products that will cost less. But there's usually a reason. For instance, on a YT bike you can pay less, but you're also giving up dealer support and their after sales customer service is notoriously pretty bad.
Having owned a specialised turbo Levo I would say no.
They are quite unreliable.and over priced for what you get.
Mine spent more time in the shop than on the trails.now own a haibike and so far trouble free.cost me less than Levo and is better equipped.
Glad to hear the Haibike is working out! It's a shame about your Levo. I have to say, we don't see many issues with these bikes. Still sucks when it happens to your bike of course. Enjoy the ride!
I agree with you. Levo is shit. You wash it with water and the motor die. Very overpriced and unreliable bike. I do not how much Specialized are paying to be on the top of all reviews, but should be a lot.
Sounds more like a commercial then a review