A JDM affordable grail with a stunning urushi dial - Seiko SARX029 Review

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    0:00 A $750 Grand Seiko?
    1:24 Why this is grail worthy
    5:23 Urushi Dial
    9:30 Specs and Wrist shots
    11:52 The 6R15D Movement
    13:13 The Cons
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Komentáře • 377

  • @karlsenula9495
    @karlsenula9495 Před rokem +7

    The hands contrast stunningly on the dial. Great review ... the more and closer I look at it the more gorgeous and well thought out the design elements become.

  • @davidbarclay3651
    @davidbarclay3651 Před rokem +5

    Your life in Japan has filled in so much information that others have missed. Excellent.

  • @MikeSmith-er1qs
    @MikeSmith-er1qs Před rokem +20

    Dude, that shot with the light flickering from a fireplace was next level! Great job.

  • @ericfreutel8240
    @ericfreutel8240 Před rokem +3

    I’ve purchased several wonderful watches I did know about beforehand - thanks to your terrific reviews. I will be buying this JDM. Thank you for your wonderful reviews . Most appreciated. 🙏🙏

  • @roderickwilliams1290
    @roderickwilliams1290 Před rokem +4

    Just ordered one. Looks stunning. I have many lacquerware items as i live in Asia and this will be a great personal addition to my collection. Have been looking at presage for a long time but this one really grabbed my attention.
    Great review.

  • @TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces

    A friend leant me this watch awhile back and the dial was so impressive. Congrats on picking up this beautiful piece!

  • @jschoenzy9416
    @jschoenzy9416 Před rokem +33

    I own this watch and agree with everything stated here, it is something special. Another detail to notice is how the crescent moon counterbalance eclipses the o in seiko, skip to 12:40 to see what I mean. It's a nice touch.

    • @yogiyoda
      @yogiyoda Před rokem +9

      Cool! Starting a little early at like 12:34 will let you catch the transition at 12;40 a bit better

    • @joshuaychung
      @joshuaychung Před rokem +1

      That is an amazing detail. Thanks for pointing that out!

  • @LectioDivina33
    @LectioDivina33 Před rokem +14

    Great videography, review and taste with this watch. I walked into my local seiko/grand seiko boutique back in late 2019 and fell in love with this JDM 2016 seiko presage saxr029. So much so I bought it from Seiya Japan. I have worn it practically every day working from home and suited and booted in the office. It's a perfect watch for me. The Presage line started in 2016.
    1) You are correct the bezel does get scratches but as I love this watch so much I don't mind it. 2) The crown is fine but they change to an onion crown from 2017 onwards with this exact same style watch but in white SARX049 & SAX095 & SARX061 or blue SARX059 & SARX053. 3) The crocodile leather is so soft and subtle but on a wrist at a keyboard everyday the crocodile starts to come off. So I bought the presage bracelet for this 1 year ago and I actually prefer it. You can buy it from gnomon or seiya san from seiya Japan can get it for you. 4) The 6R15 is better than the 4R35 but if you want a higher beat movement with the same black urushi dial and gold maki-e hand set look to the other 2 models that came out with this back in 2016 SARW013 / 6R27 / 28,800 pa/h or SARD011 / 6R24 / 28,800 pa/h but the dials are not as minimalistic as the SARX029.
    I love this watch 1) Because it reminds me of the Credor Eichi II minimalistic dial and the crecent moon seconds hand at a much more affordable price and of course the combination of a hand painted deep black urushi dial with gold maki-e hands and silver printed roman numerals just works so well together. 2) That the same urushi laquer was used to protect samurai armour and seiko used this in their marketing which you can still find online. 3) The upturned gold crescent moon was used on the helmet of the famous Samurai Matsume Date and I believe seiko didn't use the upturned crescent moon by accident seeing that it ties in with the urushi used on samurai armour. Enjoy this affordable grail as I haven't found one yet to beat it. Cheers.

  • @terrychute8486
    @terrychute8486 Před rokem +9

    I own 3 rolex and I can honestly say not one of them has a dial as sexy as that it's so deep and rich stunning

    • @timesupgr.8471
      @timesupgr.8471 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Seiko & Grand Seiko have the best dials. No competition

  • @Koishishibaman
    @Koishishibaman Před rokem

    I just recieved mine today. Wow! Handsome watch. In the sun it just pops. A forgoten gem!
    Thanks for the tip.

  • @Hashkatina
    @Hashkatina Před rokem +5

    Sold. I have to add this to my collection. Great video. Beautiful time piece!

  • @jacc88888
    @jacc88888 Před rokem +24

    I’ve been interested in this model for a while but never seen a review on it. I normally never buy any watch with Roman numeral markers as they look too formal for my taste but the way they’ve done this is very classy and of course the Urushi dial is the icing on the cake. Incredible to get a hand-made finish like this for that price.

  • @glennevans6213
    @glennevans6213 Před rokem +1

    Great review. You did this watch justice, it's absolutely stunning.

  • @dakeugeman3124
    @dakeugeman3124 Před rokem +3

    Grabbed the SARX029 after seeing this video - arrived yesterday - absolutely stunning watch and when the light catches that urushi dial, you can see the "pooling" of the lacquer on the surrounds of the date window! Thanks for the heads up, definitely didn't want to miss out on this one.

  • @jimipane2013
    @jimipane2013 Před rokem +2

    It's the outstanding craftsmanship on the dial that makes me still wanna buy Seiko watches.

  • @zanef28
    @zanef28 Před rokem

    Excellent review! I really enjoy my SARC029 and agree to everything you said about the light play on the dial and that croc strap!

  • @ciresolstice
    @ciresolstice Před rokem

    That dial application is amazing! truly beautiful with the handset and numeral printing.

  • @wendyandgeoffpattison2610
    @wendyandgeoffpattison2610 Před 6 hodinami

    The black lacquer on the dial really does absorb all light, amazing.

  • @davidbarclay3651
    @davidbarclay3651 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Dave. You are so right. I got one, it’s on the way.

  • @anonimushbosh
    @anonimushbosh Před rokem +2

    Fantastic watch, superb review. You should do way more like this. The 'I got this design-by-numbers watch for free' type review has its place (and pays some bills) but this is on a whole nother level.

  • @TheManFromUNCLEIllya
    @TheManFromUNCLEIllya Před rokem +3

    Yes, I’m guilty of purchasing this watch after seeing this review too. And totally love it!
    It’s amazing the amount of comments I get about this when I wear it out.

    • @cctoronto
      @cctoronto Před rokem

      I bit as well, I only pull the trigger on very good high Q values like this. Good video, good watch, I’m certain.

  • @ElectroMac74
    @ElectroMac74 Před rokem

    thanks for educating us , thanks for opening our eyes on this beauty

  • @mementos24
    @mementos24 Před rokem

    New to the watches hobby, my first one was a blue dial Seiko SRPG29K1F and I just pulled the trigger on this one, brand new for 700 usd. Like with any new hobby, I have been consuming a lot of content about the topic and it is the first time my heart stopped for one. Loving the overall look and the craftmanship with the Urushi Dial, thank you so much for you video.

  • @jonandresen1483
    @jonandresen1483 Před rokem +1

    I have one, great watch. Bought it Wako store in 2018. Later got a Presage bracelet that fits it perfectly. Superb on the bracelet.

  • @LambentOrt
    @LambentOrt Před rokem

    That's a really beautiful watch. Such a timeless look.

  • @aaronlbuchanan9861
    @aaronlbuchanan9861 Před rokem

    I love Seiko, beautiful watch. Great review, thanks for sharing. My grail is almost any GS with a spring drive.

  • @Leveleup543
    @Leveleup543 Před rokem

    I purchased the SARW013 as my graduation gift a couple years ago. Fantastic watch

  • @adamt1564
    @adamt1564 Před rokem +6

    Great review--the watch is an absolute beauty! Would like to see a 38/39 mm version.

  • @UltraDoug
    @UltraDoug Před rokem

    Wow, yeah this is a really nice piece for the $. I’ve been looking for a special Seiko. Thanks for the review! 😎👍🏼

  • @HardikRathod27
    @HardikRathod27 Před rokem

    Stunning watch! Thanks, Dave.

  • @idcjake10
    @idcjake10 Před rokem

    I have this exact watch on an official presage steel bracelet to keep it more casual and I get compliments on it all the time.

  • @graciousideals1509
    @graciousideals1509 Před rokem +1

    What a sleek, classical watch! The gold bordered date window is a very nice touch. I was debating between this and Citizen NB1060. Ultimately, if the watch didn't have the split second hashmarks, and the counter balance was cut in half it would have been a clear winner. Call me nitpicky, but for $800, there has to be no doubts.

  • @jesperscheel-bech998
    @jesperscheel-bech998 Před 3 měsíci

    Love your channel and approach to affordable. I'm really getting the "JDM bug", and would love if you did a video on how to stay up to date on JDM releases!

  • @sleepyfishYTPF
    @sleepyfishYTPF Před rokem +8

    This is why Seiko is great.this watch is class.
    My father gave me his 1977 Seiko5 ... I love it. It is still working with a +2 spd without any service.

  • @lawrencev.athill7502
    @lawrencev.athill7502 Před rokem

    Very interesting synopsis young, great review.

  • @christopherjohnson4276

    Great review Dave!

  • @user-vf4wf8be6e
    @user-vf4wf8be6e Před 3 měsíci

    A beautiful watch in every way. Thank you for sharing.

  • @MLsnacksnstuff
    @MLsnacksnstuff Před rokem +2

    The urushi dial with the gold indices and hands is truly stunning. One of the few watches which made me gasp. Lead me to pick up a SARW013 the same evening.

  • @tastas8554
    @tastas8554 Před rokem

    Just found the channel and it looks like Urban Gentry has some healthy competition, nice work mate 👍

  • @spincast01
    @spincast01 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the vid, Dave. This is definitely a contender. Lots to choose from as an affordable grail at this price point. I've got my eyes on other Seikos, Hamilton, Yema, Zelos, Tissot, Charlie-Paris, Revue Thommen, dare I say Bulova?? That SARX09 has some unique features tho... thanks again for the tip.

  • @folderbc
    @folderbc Před rokem +2

    I, like a lot of people here, also bought one of these after seeing this video. The black dial in person is truly remarkable. Stunning. Thanks for letting us know about this piece ☺️

  • @timesupgr.8471
    @timesupgr.8471 Před 4 měsíci

    My wife just bought me my first JDM at Bic Camera in Tokyo. It’s so beautiful, I can’t stop looking at it.

  • @davidbarclay3651
    @davidbarclay3651 Před rokem +3

    Mine just arrived. Runs great +1sec/day. If you close the clasp, with the watch face up, press the ends of the clasp down to flatten it more. I've had to do this with all my Seiko Alpinists. It fits much more comfortable on my 7.5" wrist. I have it on the third hole instead of the second, with looks better.

  • @doug7745
    @doug7745 Před rokem

    Just got a Seiko 5 sport on sale and I have to say I am amazed at the quality of this watch.

  • @jananilcolonoscopu4034
    @jananilcolonoscopu4034 Před rokem +36

    Even with their prices rising, Seiko still punches well above its weight. Enjoyed the review here.

    • @deividasnavickas
      @deividasnavickas Před rokem

      it's almost 8 years old watch....

    • @jananilcolonoscopu4034
      @jananilcolonoscopu4034 Před rokem

      @@deividasnavickas well the original post was a general appraisal of Seiko's current quality, not restricted to this, or any single Seiko piece.

  • @justinlowe337
    @justinlowe337 Před rokem

    This watch is really beautiful to see. I love the rounded edges around the date wheel and hands connection in the center. Really gives it a finishing detail that one has to wonder if it was intentional! I had to look this watch up just to see new iterations (and old). Thanks for doing a review on this

  • @MatthewMorse
    @MatthewMorse Před 5 měsíci

    That gold date window border is such a perfect detail.

  • @protoman2260
    @protoman2260 Před rokem +1

    I wanted to get a grand Seiko and I was so close to getting one but as time has past I simply can’t afford one in any reasonable amount of time. So coming across this video and how this watch has a unique dial similar to how grand Seiko has unique dials I’ll hopefully be getting this watch soon which will complete my little collection.

  • @Sabundy
    @Sabundy Před rokem

    Geez....that is an absolutely stunningly beautiful watch ⌚ 😯

  • @stevenmelnick9316
    @stevenmelnick9316 Před rokem +5

    You should review the Seiko SARA015/SJE073. Snowflake dial, legacy credor movement (6L35), and grand seiko level finishing. Sleeper affordable grail that you can still get for around 1200-1500. Case profile is also incredible

  • @kevinorr6880
    @kevinorr6880 Před rokem +78

    Actually just found this for $543. Still a bit too much to show the wife when cars need fixing…

    • @MrJamesDuffy
      @MrJamesDuffy Před rokem +5

      I have seen it preowned for ~$350 in Japan recently so that could be an option if you don't mind buying preowned.

    • @jjakiefte2165
      @jjakiefte2165 Před rokem +2

      where did you find it for that kind of money?

    • @BartMan59
      @BartMan59 Před rokem +2

      Please share the purchase web-site

    • @jimwatchyyc
      @jimwatchyyc Před rokem +16

      Who needs a car when you can have a watch to tell you how long it will be before the next bus is scheduled to arrive.

    • @bensynewsshoedown4999
      @bensynewsshoedown4999 Před rokem +4

      Hard to find, or from a well known source? Just asking from Australia, where pricing is almost double this price, converted to USD.

  • @alexlee4588
    @alexlee4588 Před rokem

    Well done. Been following. Now subscribed. Great presentation skills. And truth coming through. Cheers. Best.

  • @MrShanebizzle
    @MrShanebizzle Před rokem

    Great video man thanks! Great looking watch

  • @R.J._Lewis
    @R.J._Lewis Před rokem +4

    If you're worried about the strap being dry, just put some leather conditioner on it. It's not a bad idea to do that anyway before you ever wear it, especially if it's a fine leather. Sometimes the straps are made way before they're ever attached to a watch and they sit in a box somewhere just drying. The same with a pair of nice leather shoes: it never hurts to appply a little conditioner!

  • @ricardochaveste7367
    @ricardochaveste7367 Před rokem

    Incredible value for money 👊 specially the designed is magnificent, not bad at all..love the Roman numbers,great for dress watch.....thank you again for reviewing this piece love it..grail for me a would be some of older Alpanist....

  • @fbcpraise
    @fbcpraise Před rokem

    Great selection, Dave.

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville Před rokem +17

    One thing and this is incidental to why Seiko uses a 3hz beat rate (longer power reserve) but on most high end/ high horology watches they use much larger balance wheels and a slower beat rate. Standard for high horology is 2.5 to 3hz (18000 to 21600 bph). High end watchmakers do it for a number of very interesting, chronometric reasons as well as for the aesthetic of a slow beating balance wheel. BTW Awesome review Dave, really captured that dial in all of its glory.

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 Před rokem +1

      Same. The daytonas smooth travel is cool but my seagull 1963 with 21600 the red chrono hand is so cool to watch ticking around.

    • @younusimam-thesalamproject6340
      @younusimam-thesalamproject6340 Před rokem +1

      Yep, I much prefer a lower beatrate. Longer lifespan and less waste of parts.

  • @terrymoser2028
    @terrymoser2028 Před rokem

    Thank you for your informed information!

  • @markwolfson2023
    @markwolfson2023 Před rokem

    Thank you for picking out a star among the schools of 'Seiko fish.' The prices are going up as we speak.

  • @slowbluesmaster
    @slowbluesmaster Před rokem +6

    Alternatives: SARX019 (identical but with a white enamel dial) and SARW013 (black enamel dial, 6R27, additional power reserve indicator and sub date display, located at 9 and 6 o'clock respectively), the latter being my favourite.

    • @paulbugoni2846
      @paulbugoni2846 Před 9 měsíci

      Just got the sarw013-amazing bang per buck!

  • @ajcallaway123
    @ajcallaway123 Před rokem

    That's a lovely case.. all round stunner.

  • @woonfaseng8737
    @woonfaseng8737 Před rokem +1

    great dial. i saw this watch before previously online. the gold is stunning . it looks much like a higher end presage which cost about 2000 USD

  • @WatchmakerErik
    @WatchmakerErik Před rokem +3

    This watch is awesome. Hopefully I'll be able to afford one before they are all gone.

  • @jk23_
    @jk23_ Před rokem

    My friend just brought this to me from his trip to Japan. This thing is awesome. Even my Carrera pales besides it 😮

  • @shadowmedic777
    @shadowmedic777 Před rokem

    Great video, handsome/sharp time piece! I was thinking about getting one but just couldn't justify because it is so similar to my Bulova Precisionist 96B158 with that smooth sweeping second hand. I'm sure technically the SARX029 is better built in some ways but love my Precisionist.

  • @user-iz9co4qf6z
    @user-iz9co4qf6z Před rokem +2

    Seiko for me is the best watch brand for this reason. For the price you can't beat them

  • @shahnhughes4558
    @shahnhughes4558 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the heads up on this watch. Found one for 570.00 And I couldn't be happier! Amazing Watch!. They are disappearing fast!

  • @balesjo
    @balesjo Před rokem +2

    I have several Seiko Presage watches. Their Urushi dial and the Arita porcelain dial are amazing as the dials that you'd expect would be limited to the Grand Seikos. My only with is that for the upper tier Presage watches, Seiko would use a higher tier movement. When you begin to see the MSRP creep into multiple thousands, you really expect to see a bit better than the 6R35 which is found on many Seikos that are far less expensive. But you can't get around the fact that Seiko produces some of the most beautiful dials you can find in the mass produced market.

    • @wintermute8315
      @wintermute8315 Před rokem

      Eh, 70 hour reserve really comes in handy. It's a good movement.

  • @gmshadowtraders
    @gmshadowtraders Před rokem

    Stunning. I have the blue enamel version, SPB069. You cannot replicate this quality in swiss watches below $10,000.

  • @BobbyLegs
    @BobbyLegs Před rokem

    Great watch and great review!!!

  • @cylentone
    @cylentone Před rokem

    Beautiful - thanks for sharing

  • @Csibu89
    @Csibu89 Před rokem

    again, one more watch i never knew i needed but now i kinda do :D

  • @erwinsteneker4078
    @erwinsteneker4078 Před rokem +40

    Whenever I read JDM I think, this is going to cost me too much money, while simultaneously view it as a great deal! 😂

    • @NoName-bb2pu
      @NoName-bb2pu Před rokem +1

      I'm a big watch guy, but over 1000$, I'd give only to Swiss/German watches. Seikos seem very poverty spec to me, looks even worse. For maybe a super high end Grand Seiko with gold I may pay 500$, rest not more than 10$

    • @WatchmakerErik
      @WatchmakerErik Před rokem +15

      @@NoName-bb2pu you're a watch snob in other words.

    • @Mcguyver67
      @Mcguyver67 Před rokem +2

      @@WatchmakerErik Bro, I can't agree more, is a humongous insult to many Seiko die hard fans around the world.

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H Před rokem +7

      @@NoName-bb2pu lmao tell me you know nothing about watches without telling me you know nothing about watches

    • @NoName-bb2pu
      @NoName-bb2pu Před rokem +3

      @@HRM.H if you know the brands I own you'll fall off the chair

  • @voxer99
    @voxer99 Před rokem +1

    I normally hate Roman numerals on watches but this looks good.

  • @littlsuprstr
    @littlsuprstr Před rokem

    This is definitely the one Seiko I'd wear.

  • @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm
    @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm Před 6 měsíci

    It’s beautiful… And I’ve been a fan of that wine for years. I can’t believe Seiko actually put a real croc strap on it… I’m not so sure I’d pay 750 but if I can find it near the $500 mark, I will pull the trigger! Thanks for the great review!

  • @ReferenceFidelityComponents
    @ReferenceFidelityComponents Před 4 měsíci

    Few companies produce dials like Seiko. They’re something special. The precision, elegance, and way these dials reflect light and pop us unmatched by most luxury watches. I personally prefer the SARY135 which is simply stunning.

  • @Javi_C
    @Javi_C Před rokem +1

    I like the Diamine Oxblood fountain pen ink you got there! 😊

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  Před rokem +1

      My buddy is trying to get me into fountain pens and hooked me up with a bunch of cool stuff!

  • @rajgill7576
    @rajgill7576 Před rokem

    The entire presage lineup is great value for money

  • @Miginath
    @Miginath Před rokem +1

    If you are concerned about the strap drying and cracking then maybe consider using some leather conditioner similar to what would be used for leather dress shoes.

  • @ericiidx
    @ericiidx Před rokem +1

    What a beautiful dial! I suppose I'm a sucker for "plain" black dials. And what a great value, considering the current USD -> JPY exchange rate.
    If you ever decide to do anything about the state of the leather, I highly recommend "Bick 4" leather conditioner from the brand Bickmore. It's the lightest, most "invisible" leather conditioner I've ever used, it's cheap, and it works wonders. Safe for use on exotic leathers, and won't discolor.

    • @18-tube-wattamp64
      @18-tube-wattamp64 Před rokem +1

      Second that Bick 4 recommendation. I use it on better shoes and boots when I don't want to see the color change any. Apply a little with a soft cloth and wipe off the excess. I won't say "no discoloration", but I haven't seen anything with less discoloration: good stuff.

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 Před rokem

      Mink oil is what's recommended for alligator leather - it's inexpensive and readily available.

    • @terrychute8486
      @terrychute8486 Před rokem

      Nothing plain about that dial it screams beautiful

  • @knguncle3
    @knguncle3 Před rokem

    great recommendation. I've always wanted to get a SARB033 but it's way too expensive now, and hard to find. the SARX029 seems a much better choice than the SARB033

  • @williamwallace9427
    @williamwallace9427 Před rokem

    Beautiful!

  • @andyholton7959
    @andyholton7959 Před rokem

    Beautiful watch 🤙🏻

  • @danielmcbriar1672
    @danielmcbriar1672 Před rokem

    I bought my affordable grail. Yema Navygraf but the Seiko is beautiful 😍

  • @alvinpillay9995
    @alvinpillay9995 Před rokem

    Looks really good

  • @therascals8237
    @therascals8237 Před 5 měsíci

    That's a beautiful watch! Can you do a short update video on it 1 year out?

  • @williamhill7312
    @williamhill7312 Před rokem

    Great Review

  • @csuwatson04
    @csuwatson04 Před rokem

    That dial is absolutely stunning. This is definitely in the running for my new affordable grail watch. I'm looking for my 1st automatic watch and I could use a black dress watch. Sakura has it for $681, but my only concern is that it's a 7 year old "new" watch. Is that a valid concern?

  • @bobsmith1405
    @bobsmith1405 Před rokem

    Going to Shinjuku tomorrow. Im looking for a couple of JDM watches to flex with when I go to the states. I will look for one of these and see if I like it.

  • @guilessa
    @guilessa Před rokem

    Wow, really beautiful.

  • @marcjames3487
    @marcjames3487 Před rokem

    A classic elegant beauty. I love the crispness of the dial. I use restoring shoe polish on some of my cow leather straps ~ would that work on crocodile ?

  • @dtroutmann
    @dtroutmann Před rokem

    Dave I didn't see that design for t-shirts when I went to your website is that only on hoodies? I love my turtle t-shirt and gray I wish my lube shot samurai/monster came in Gray and the Pepsi bezel came in Gray that said I love all three t-shirts thanks very much super high quality as well

  • @rayleeaustralia
    @rayleeaustralia Před rokem +1

    So the alternative to Seiko is another Seiko. I agree. Seiko makes some mighty fine watches

  • @johnmonachelli5256
    @johnmonachelli5256 Před rokem

    Seiko will never hurt you it does what it says

  • @michaelhsia4006
    @michaelhsia4006 Před rokem

    Check out the SARX049. Same with different colors - white face and blued hands AND has a slightly more angular crown profile that you may like.

  • @perrybucsdad
    @perrybucsdad Před rokem

    Just curious... between this watch, and the the Seiko Prospex Alpinest SPB249J11 that you reviewed a but longer ago, which do you like more and why? The are both gorgeous watches, but just curious your opinion.

  • @west5828
    @west5828 Před rokem

    Look great on the video ,I wander if is the same one when you buy it !

  • @HFV_Junkyardin
    @HFV_Junkyardin Před rokem

    I have an orient bambino that if grown to dislike for a hand full of reasons. It was one of the first watches I ever bought, and I’ve never really been happy with it. This may be the prefect replacement for it.

  • @davidrodriguezc3724
    @davidrodriguezc3724 Před rokem

    Would be nice if you review an Orient Star of the higher end like the moonphase, the skeleton or the slim, those are amazing build and around 1.000 Dollar as well