Future Old Trafford Stadium - A new Option
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2024
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3 Options
Option A - Expand
Option B - Upgrade
Option A+B
Opcion C - Rebuild (New Trafford?)
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What is it with modern stadiums looking like hospital bed pans?
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So you know what’s going on inside
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What a load of bullshit never going to happen in the memory of man fuck all will happen with the RAT and the glazers running the club 😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@FA-fe4ijye ,it will be full of piss and shit
To me option A is the best. To me it’s the modernized Old Trafford. Something that can resonate with the older generation and appreciate by the new generation.
Option B just makes it look like a giant space ship lol, it also looks the Old Trafford feeling to me.
Option A all day. Those British roofs are iconic. Just have to rebuild them with new angles so fans can have unobstructed views of the entire stadium.
I agree with A all day long, would get the stadium to 90,000 without losing the history of the ground.
They look dated now, what will they be like 20 years from now.
@@seanwalsh6649 Even more iconic
@@TheBenLambert But it's not just the exterior that needs improving. The seating is too cramped and fan facilities need massive change. A full rebuild is a better option.
Option C. Just like what Tottenham did. Still having matches at Old Trafford while rebuilding the New Old Trafford. Get in the latest techs, so it doesn’t only for football matches and get more profits from helding other events like Bernabau.
Agree 💯%. I get the history, etc. It’s time to get a 90k seat state of the art stadium and all it entails. I live in Houston, Tx home of the Astrodome. We built a new stadium next to years ago and it just sits there. It can’t be torn down because of historical reasons. Millions of tax dollars go into it for upkeep of a decrepit facility. Build a new facility.
That's a wrong fact though - Spurs played their home games at Wembley Stadium, not at White Hart Lane (ex) as it had to be demolished to make way for the new one.
No events would want to go manchester, is a kip
@@antonellaluque4532 due to foreigners like you ruining it
Well why can’t we modernise and expand Old Trafford just like Real Madrid and Barcelona did?
Option A and A+B are great ways of delaying that project for a decade, because every single neighbour is going to sue the club.
man utd will make them offer they cant refuse given , i doubt the neighbours will say no most of them will be man utd fans
United own most of the houses on Railway Road.
Why? The stadium was already there 😂
Red brick facade or go home. I've had it with silver spaceship stadiums. Tall, steep, red brick, minimum 100k capacity and keep it on the current site. Happy to ground share with all the L
Lancashire teams while it gets done.
The people in the terraced houses behind the railroad might have something to say about option A + B. 😮
Yep waking up to an ufo in there back gardens every morning lovely
United own most of those houses 😂
Why would they be arsed, they've already gott a railway and 75% of that view anyway
Having a giant silver mirror reflecting the sun's rays into your back garden may just kill everything in it, including the homeowner. Manchester has been known to have sunshine once in a while. 🥵
O give the pasty white moaning gets a nice tan
Love the bit of 1966 footage, works brilliantly for historic stadiums that have developed over the generations 👍
Basically, stadium must be rebuilt because the structure is obsolete, this requires several reconstruction plans or a completely new stadium.
People talking like option A isn't an option because of the houses. Those houses are worth 350k (15 houses). Do you think 15 x lets say 500k premium (7.5 mil) will be an issue to a company valued at 65 billion? Do me a favour.
Unfortunately it’s never that easy to force people to sell.
You're making it sound like it's easy to just make people move by throwing money at them. It doesn't work that way.
United own most of the houses on Railway Road.
@@stuartdaughtry3586no they dont
You can be valued whatever you want doesn’t mean you have the cash to spend.
I’d prefer something like option A but can they not change it so the roofs on each stand are all straight instead of on a slant like they are now?
It's such a crumbling ruin that the largest club stadium in the UK isn't being used when the UK hosts Euro 2028. OT needs a major upgrade, it probably needs a complete rebuild, demolish the current stadium and build a new one.
This is the most logical idea. Some say you take the soul out of a move but TBF it’s literally next door akin to Spurs, or a bit like Emirates , soon to be Bramley Moore and hopefully Power Ct. It’s not like Brighton moving away from the Goldstone or Wimbledon moving to MK
(Can’t comment on City’s move from Maine Rd to Etihad, but the Hammers moved over 1km from the Boleyn and it’s destroyed their soul)
and play where
@@blaizemonaghan9875 excellent question. Most new builds have other neutral stadia nearby while the main stadium is torn down- eg London and Barcelona
For United, the only possible option for a rebuild is acquisition of the land to the east of Old Trafford- like in the Bondibot video. But there would be significant disruption- potentially having to knock off the Stretford End, while playing at OT, as the new stadium is built.
A bit like Spurs playing in a reduced WHL in 2017 to accommodate a quicker return from Wembley (originally planned for Sept 2018)
Wembley @@blaizemonaghan9875
@@blaizemonaghan9875 Groundshare with City, or if Goodison Park is still standing, use that. Everton is moving into a new stadium next year though, so if they don't pull the trigger now, it will probably be apartment buildings by the time they do. Wembley should not be a consideration.
Option A seems to be the most logical one there. Option B just seems unnecessary, Option A+B seems too costly, and Option C imo would take too much away from what Man Utd are and would almost obliterate their tradition and DNA of the club. Option A would at least keep the stadium's iconic look as close as it can be to what it is now, and it would also present an opportunity for additional matchday revenue (Train station next to the stadium, higher capacity) and wouldn't cost too much to do.
I feel like Option B is the most likely option. Old Trafford is already the biggest club stadium in England and doesn't necessarily need to be expanded any further. By improving the exterior and interior it would make a big difference to the fan experience and it would be a much more visual improvement which owners of clubs always love as it means they have something to point to at the end of their tenure as owner as proof of their legacy.
Yes to sorting the South Stand, but no to the aesthetics of the options. All look soulless. If nothing else rework the roof so that it doesnt leak and I can see ALL the seating from any seat. That would increase the atmosphere for sure
A+B expand + upgrade looks amazing 👌🏼
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All of them are worth a shot. But I think the new Bernabéu architects would sue on both option B or A+B!
Joking aside, if they keep the pitch where it is, it will be an absolute crime with B if they didn't then cover the southern railway and max out that extra capacity.
I'm fine with improving coverage for the fans, but they should at least try to make the stadium look as much like the current stadium as they can.
Yeah, maybe. Although there are some that would also definitely argue that the current stadium's design (and facilities) has got rather tired and is simply not up there with the latest top-tier renovated or rebuilt grounds. I mean, there is certainly a trend for the 'bubble wrapped' style in the last 20 years or so as the apparent preferred solution to employ externally (Bayern, Real, Spurs, Schalke, etc.), and maybe that means it's time to find a new - or rediscovered old - style to go in a different direction yet again. I just like the idea of the capacity hitting - and maybe even exceeding - 90,000... and perhaps they can fix the roof from leaking whilst they are at it! @@michaelwalker7400
Beautiful video thank you for posting it on CZcams.
I hope from my heart that the Glazers and Sir Jim Ratcliffe decide to expansion Old Trafford on the South Stand.
The cost is apparently £800 million but in return we will have a wonderful old Trafford expansion
It would be an honor that Old Trafford has 88,000 to 90,000 spectators.
I hate those new modern bowl stadiums... I want the old trafford upgraded with new tech on the inside.
Very intriguing, interesting n exciting project for r Theatre of Dreams, tks for sharing 🎉
C is probably the best all around. The club already owns the land needed to build a new stadium. Old Trafford can still be in full use while a new ground is constructed. And then some parts of OT can be salvaged/memorialised when the new one opens. It's all pie in the sky though. Until the Glazers are gone, whether INEOS complete a staggered buyout or somebody else does, the place will be left to rot.
Good work on the render 👍🏻
While this additional option looks epic and I love the railway tunnel, I’m imagining the south stands reflective appearance cooking the residents behind from sunlight
Sunlight isn't a problem in Manchester.
@@sammyb1651 😂. I forgot it’s grim oop there
I'd expect some type of protective covering if they went with that to keep from inadvertently cooking someone's roof.
Absolutely love the railway integration concept to ensure that stand can be enlarged too. Should be "Old Trafford Presented By Ineos". 👍
I love that option A +B, it's the best
It looks like a hospital piss pan mate
Even though there are a lot of memories and history, corridors are tiny, in the stadium its very cramped, roof leaks, rust everywhere, food courts need to be updated, rodent problems(other than the glazers)..... I'm afraid to start fresh option c with a twist take some of the iconic pieces to the new stadium like the Munich memorial, the front of east stand don't make it look like the bernabau style (Bed pan) have the pitch technology that spurs have underground, have an underground station for the greatest transport links.
Hey Bondibot I was wondering if you could make an updated version of future Irish stadiums because Dalymount Park shared stadium has been scrapped my local team Sligo rovers is now expanding their stadium they have already added new floodlights and other teams are also looking to upgrade btw great video
Option A+B/C fantastic!...
Is there anywhere I can learn your creative process start to finish? I can use sketch up and enscape, but this is insane! So cool.
It would never look like the picture suggests, but a new stadium is key to improving match day experience and leading the way for future success on and off the field (IMO)
The best Players want to play in the best stadiums, with the best facilities available.
Great look, and the train still gets to pass throught.. obivously option B but everything is step.
Great video, however 'New Old Trafford' reminds me of one of Spinal Tap's earlier band names in 'The New Originals', changed from 'The Originals' as it clashed with another band using the same name who called themselves that first...
then the drummer exploded 😂
In the future all stadiums will look about the same
Option A & C looks good
option A + B absolutely class
The best choice is option C. Manchester needs a new stadium with the best facilities. We must leave the past behind and think about the future. We should not drown in the memories of the past.
No!! Old Trafford is too good a stadium to knock down. You can't build a new stadium and keep the same character Old Trafford has. It needs to be refurbished, developed and improved gradually.
I agree the Stadium should not be moved. But that doesn't mean you can't add new infrastructure. Building over the railway is not difficult by building a bridge over the railway (this is where the gov could help financially). Also expanding all the stands would renew all the old materials of the stadium (a lot of materials could be reused/repurposed as well, help lower the costs. I think we should aim for 100,000 capacity. We need to take our rightful place as being the biggest and best stadium in UK. Or go one further and beat the capacity of "Camp nou" but not at the expense of a loud, penetrating noise (we need to keep that).
If we see what others have done or doing eg, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City & Tottenham. we really need to compete with that so that we can also generate more revenue streams by hosting other events. We are one of a few teams that have a lot of land so using state of the art (expensive equipment might not be necessary. What I mean is like Real Madrid and Tottenham's stadiums they've turned their stadiums into multi purpose (which costs a lot more in engineering, etc). I think we should re-build our stadium and also built a 2nd multi-purpose stadium turning our land into an entertainment park, which includes green spaces, a shopping centre, hotels, cinema, museum, entertainment events, other sports events (ice hockey, basketball, boxing, cycling, etc). We would be much more financially better off in the long run if we were to do this and the costs wouldn't be as much as our rivals.
We just need to have ambition and a plan for the future.
Option A is the south stand (SBC) expansion with a tunnel for the train lines. Option B is a new roof with a small capacity south Stand. Option A+B is a high capacity south stand with a tunnel and a roof but it looks too close the houses (2.26 - 2.44). Option C is like Spurs, build a new stadium on existing land close by. SAF and most fans want 100,000 seats (and standing areas).
My question: what percentage the "match day receipts" is of United's total earnings?
If we’re going to refurb it’s going to take more than just raising the south stand to the same height as the others. For a start as that’s the most problematic due to the train line then we need to future proof it and make it our biggest stand.
Part of the reason why I now think a new stadium on the land next to OT is the best option.
Very nice idea. Congrats.
Though they will never get the permit to build on top of the railway, because the railway it is officially State owned land, which means, untouchable for the private sector.
This is not true. Many, many railway stations have private developments above them now and more are in the pipeline, particularly in London. It just needs legalities being agreed. Of more concern would be the proximity of the stand to the houses and very debatable whether the local authority would give permission.
Move the train line deeper underground problem solved
Spurs were able to get some of this done, since the building could still interrupt train service in the area. United can get that done too.
@@robertwilson738 Yes, that's probably right but I don't think every situation is the same, one thing is approving for construction of apartments or a shopping centre and another is for just a stand of a football stadium, I still think it would be difficult to get that pass, but yes, not impossible.
@@mjsteier Ok but will United pay that? I don't want my tax money to be used for a new underground station just to allow United to construct a new stand...
Option D: a cleaner old Trafford with a new stadium where the parking is so you can repurpose the old stadium
Man Utd's Old Trafford stadium that a bit of TLC won't cure.
All it needs is the Upgrade of the Sir Bobby Charlton's Stand with a 2nd tier to complete the original design & the removal of the 3rd tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson's Stand & replaced by TV Screens for all 4 corners.
We also want a levelled retractable new Roof + modern refurbishment of the rest of the stadium to warrant a 90K capacity in comfort.
SBCS 25K +
SAFS 25K +
SES 20K +
ES 20K = 90K.
Take Note: The expansion should not exceed the rail track.
Old Trafford known as 'The Theatre of Dreams' unique in style is the Super Bowl of stadiums & is potentially The best Stadium in the country, possibly the world.
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its got to be option a+b or option C but glazers will go with option A if anything at all
Video should stop at 1:00. Chrome dome exteriors should never be on football stadiums simple as that.
They could do a rebuild to honour the current exterior appearance?
One factor never mentioned when looking at rebuilding OT is the fact so few kids seem to be in attendance on a matchday, so first of all a stadium that can comfortably hold in excess of 90.000 is essential which would give more opportunity for kids to attend. Secondly the seating in many parts particularly in lthe lower tiers means for many of us we find our knees right up against the back of the seat in front plus the old scoreboard end looks a bit of a mess with half and half situation. Thirdly the Sir Bobby Charlton stand seems out of place with the rest of the stadium. " Am I sitting in the new Main Road" I wonder, which was a bit of a hop scotch stadium. Some criticise the atmosphere in modern stadiums but atmosphere only became an issue i believe when we went all seater, so maybe the new 'Standing Seats' at the front could be the answer as everyone seems to stand up in the front tiers of every home game in the EAST and WEST stands. In light of these issues Option C could be the best way forward and redisgn the current stadium to hold just a few thousand the other non first team fixtures.
i go for option c coz it will come with modern day facilities like other modern stadiums , if not option A&B
option A. industrial, working class, same feel but more symmetrical, love it
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But will have leaking issues decades to come.
I'm happy with option A but they should also build a modern second stadium for the youth side and make the surrounding area a MUFC campus.
or better yet have option C but keep OT as the youth stadium/museum (downsized). But hard to see how this will be paid for.
A please. I like how old Trafford looks already.
I love Old Trafford but I think it’s time for a complete rebuild but please make it a football stadium, high steeping stands close to the pitch this should ensure the atmosphere will not be too affected.
I`m for option B, but only if they call it New Trafford! It points to new possibilities for the future, building on the legacies of the past. Considering the recent troubles and problems, now is the time to move forward and onward...
How about moving the train line ! Dig and have it under the ground and stand . Need to stay at the present location .
You can do a retrofit for laranjeiras stadium from Fluminense football Club?
Can't say as I'm keen on all this Metal cladding or what ever it is. It's been done with Real Madrid. I suppose it's all preference, I do like how barca have done theirs. Hope they do something unique
option A very nice, but C extraordinary
So i like the covered station as it is kinda cool, but modernise the current design so it is in keeping with old traffords long history and expand the seating to 90000 at least
Option A👌
Of course every fan would love to keep the stadium on its orginal footprint but unfortunately I don't think it's physically/financially possible. A state of the art multi-purpose stadium is the way forward. Also, stick a retractable roof on it while they are at it.
Option C. 100%
Compulsory purchase of the houses adjacent to the railway line, then move railway to where the houses where and build new stand on the vacant land where the railway line once was.
Why did you delete the video of the Spanish stadiums, bro?
Ρε πάτε καλά κονσέρβα θα το κάνετε το γήπεδο τι τσαντίρι είναι αυτό που φτιάξατε εκεί ;
It’s apt that it looks very much like an NHS hospital bed pan.
It's probably less costly for United to build a brand new stadium than to totally revamp the current stadium.
Old Trafford is apparently needing major work on the whole structure, especially the roof.
To do that amount of work on a whole stadium, they would need to play elsewhere in the meantime, like Real Madrid and Barcelona had to and having to. So where would they play? There isn't a viable option to do that.
They have enough ground in that area to build a new stadium whilst still playing at old Trafford, it also removes the problem with the railway and the homes at the back of it too, option a&b would have to be a case of getting those home owners to agree on selling up to the club because of right of light issues.
I honestly think the Glaziers have no intention of either redeveloping the current stadium or building a new one, they will probably only sell up once it is at a point where it seriously has to be done either way, or they would of probably done something already.
Definetelly A+B with a cover like the Barnabeu in Madrid
Fantástico diseño, nadie vio algo parecido nunca 😂😂😂😂😂
When will the inside look be in the video?
Expand option A. Make a tunnel for the train underneath. Close the Bobby Charlton stand for like 2 seasons whilst playing and it'll be done.
You can play scalextrics on top of the roof !
Option C is the best ❤
At present The Old Trafford Stadium is still incomplete & needs to be completed first before you can sort out the roof.
This Stadium has a lot of potential & can be one of the best Stadium in Europe with an original design cos it has authentic look & character with the potential capacity of at least 90K, all it needs is a complete refurbishment & some TLC.
Talk Note: The Stadium Expansion should Not Exceed the rail way line.
Manchester United's Old Trafford is 'The Super Bowl' of stadiums is known as The Theatre of Dreams is unique & a Colossal of a Stadium.
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What are the proposed capacities of each option
I believe all are intended to have between 85,00-95,000 seats.
i think yes for A, rail platform covered,and build up on the canal side,as like a big wedge,at the end of the day its down to cost and the greedy builders who get the contract,away good luck with the [ assumed ] plans.
Option A look very good, option B is an epic downgrade, A+B horrible, C very expensive.
C is actually cheaper than A+B, I believe. I'd also rather they keep the original Old Trafford spot for a Mini Trafford instead of sliding it off to the right. But if it's all on the same site, I'll be happy with that.
Option A, a more symmetrical option. I kind hate those metallic fronts.
Expand south stand. And make it look like a castle. It will be the most unique stadium in the world.
Food for thought.
Do futures stadiums that are being build in Australia especially with the Olympic in 2032
surely keep the old pitch where it is instead of moving it in optioc c. Could be sold on that
Option b is the best
Option A!
The stadium needs to be rebuilt i.e. option 3, although not with that design. I just don’t see a way we can upgrade OT and make it a stadium fit for the 21st century. We are bounded by the railway on one side, and a canal on the other. Trying to do the job within that footprint would be a compromise, and Utd should compromise, we need a world class stadium, not a half baked job.
Desde mi ignorancia de no ser ingeniero, no seria mejor soterrar las vías del ferrocarril? Mi otro punto es que no veo donde tenga esa estética plateada algo que ver con el United. Que si, que es muy bonito el Bernabeu, pienso que le pega al R. Madrid sin embargo porque querrías suprimir el sentido de “Old” Trafford por un orinal galáctico? 😂
Yo buscaria juntar la obra vista tipo “industrial” con un predominante rojo para la fachada, estructuras y tubulares blancas con vidrio. Se puede hacer algo muy moderno con eso!!
The design is not settled on. I think they just want to show what the current design idea for football stadiums are. I would not want Old Trafford to look like the Bernabeau either.
@@michaelwalker7400Ojalá lo elijan bien! Es para muchos años!
How do you do it
I will go with option c it give the stadium enough room on north side .
Where are we playing when Options A and B are being done? The US?
Saudi Arabia 🙂
Opción C el united es uno de los mejores club del mundo y merece un estadio de lo mejor del mundo.
I think it would be much better to spend on building an entirely new stadium just next door to this spot.. this option would not only be super-expensive, but also the amount spent will have to be amortized out fully as an expense, on the same original property.. whereas building a new stadium can add a new property into the portfolio..
That is Uuuugleeeeee!!!
That's fantasy with the Glazier still around
Has to be A. Most modern stadiums would incorporate the all round natural light factor - I don't see the other options including this in their designs.
Option c is the serious option if we renovate it will prolong what needs to happen weve seen big clubs move out of stadiums we need to follow if were serious i get about the history and all but the facilities i mean the toilets seats bars roof is just a short list with ehats wrong with the stadium the fans sre united more than anything build a stadium like Tottenham but bigger we need more aspiration
Option A should of been done 20 years ago.
Option B & AB: No.
The only option is a complete rebuild but the design needs to break the mould of how current stadiums are done.
Option A by far!
Option A+B I'd by far the best but option C is a good 1
Option B is the best
Option b or c because train view
My favourite is option A+B
Old Trafford doesn't have the leg room in the seats. Need a new modern stadium with screens. I think the best one to copy would be Munichs stadium. Looks great
wow ,
We want an Expansion to approx 90K capacity, Modern refurbishment & a New Levelled Retractable Roof!
There's an completed stadium design on WHF!@UtdWesleyy with a comment stating: So apparently we are looking at an expansion of Old Trafford. It’s been talked about for years but put off because of the complications around the south section of the stadium but if we do manage to do it… 2 Tier SBC Capacity: 88,000+
We're sure that can be achieved with minimal fuss by observation cos its already laid out going by our walk around the stadium experience.
Take Note: The stadium Should Not Exceed the rail way track!
Worth a view, please share!
A is best ..but I think practically we will have to accept C.