Should Manchester United refurbish or rebuild Old Trafford?
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2024
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Reporter Ben Ransom discusses Sir Jim Ratcliffe's comment about wanting to sign the next Kylian Mbappe rather than pursuing a move for the France forward and takes a look at Manchester United's recruitment.
Ransom also analyses whether Manchester United will decide to refurbish Old Trafford or rebuild the stadium.
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Total rebuild with 90, preferably 100k capacity. If you really feel sentimental to the Original, then there could always be a statue built of it or something, gone but never forgotten.
People need to stop feeling attachment to a bunch of bricks.
If its better for the club to build a fully new stadium, they should do that. What makes the club is the people. Not the stadium, not even the players. It's always the people and the community around it. People need to realize that.
Highbury was imo iconic and when they moved into the Emirates it felt off. But years after people have gotten used to it and there's loads of atmosphere in that stadium now. I remember the same with Ajax. When Ajax moved from their old stadium into The Cruyff Arena and felt like an empty bunch of bricks. But years after they gave it an identity and it feels like Ajax now.
My point is that it shouldn't matter. Old Trafford will stay a part of their history and a new stadium would become a new part of their history. You can't stay forever in a bunch of bricks, one day it will fall apart but the club can stay on its feet due to the people and community around it, thats the actual club.
The emirates is terrible. One of the worst excuses for a football ground I’ve ever visited. It’s a egg shaped stadium 😂 it’s terrible. Barca, Madrid are staying at their grounds because they know the importance of the history. Most new stadiums are drab with no character like the emirates.
Are you for real ?? Your actually comparing arsenals old ground to old Trafford 😂😂😂😂.
Old Trafford has years of amazing memories and history, what did arsenal ever do there ???
The theatre of dreams is famous around the world.
Your obviously not a red from Manchester
@@stretfordender11have you even seen barcas stadium atm, it’s basically been fully demolished with a few concrete leftover, the only reasoning for this is because they can’t move their stadium next door otherwise they would have done. It’s best for united to build a new one next to the current one as not much can be done to old Trafford cause of the railways where as the new one could be
@@Hyptcz__ United should copy Barca. People who rarely go the game and foreign fans want a new stadium
Eventually you will have a new team in a new town with a new stadium...so what's the point, you'll create something that's only name?
They had the opportunity to buy Bellingham, Haaland, Rice, Gakpo, de ligt, kim min jae etc, but they supremely f'd up
Your right. They had had the opportunity to buy Mbappe, De Jong, Bellingham, Jesus, De Ligt, Haaland. All of these players were scouted at 15 and 16 years of age and had been highly recommended by the scouts and even Ryan Giggs went over to watch them play as well after they been recommended and came back and told Van Gaal to sign Mbappe, De Jong and De Ligt and he refused. Scouts even resigned because of the players we were refusing to sign. We could of signed all these players for under £150m. Imagine how good of a team we could been and imagine how much money we could have saved.
Every top club in the world could have tried to get those players as well, weird that only United are beaten over the head with these names.
you guys still dont get it, it doesnt matter what players you have your club is rotten, need to fix that before worrying about what players you have
@@clockworkman8210 aww, do you believe the crap spread by media ? how cute
@@matthewbaker2573 well you’re club is mediocre, any good players that go there end up shite despite being good elsewhere. clubs poorly run and wastes billions over last 10 years. how am i wrong?
United fill nearly 75k easy. And the waiting list for season tickets is 120k, United should really build a new stadium and make the capacity 120k.
United have 50,000 season ticket holder seats with a 75k stadium. a rise to 100k would increase it to about 70k season ticket holders
Talking rubbish these figures are dwindling season after season. and if so big and great why beg for tax payers money?
@@SuperFredc I dont think people quite understand what is meant by "using public funds" in this case.
Infrastructure!!
If roads were redesigned, bridges built and a better public transport system in place on match days, then traffic flow would be eased in the area meaning businesses arent wasting hours per day stuck in traffic going nowhere.
The long term boost to businesses would far outweigh the cost. Without that help from local councils, any new stadium would encounter the exact same problems that everyone suffers in south manchester when united are at home.
Thats not something have the authority, the right, or the responsibility to fix.
Thats why public money would be needed.
@@SuperFredc Because you get rich spending your own money
New Trafford could be 120,000 seats, yes. It'd still sell out given Man Utd are by far the most popular club in Manchester, Greater Manchester, and the rest of the UK. It'd also mean the stadium could host major sporting events e.g. CL finals, Euro finals due to the capacity being way bigger than Wembley.
You had to be there to feel the atmosphere during our last FA CUP game. This is our legacy and our theater
Had to make some noise against your biggest rival at home. Especially after the dreadful season you've had. We all know it's a library otherwise let's be honest
It hasn’t always been that way I had a season ticket for six years and used to go with my dad week in week out when I was a kid and the atmosphere was like no other we’ve just lost our way a little bit it will come back to us
@@FurioussBear🧢
Good spelling again
Actually well explained sky 🎉❤... Certainly you reached a level that'll convice me to fully back the new stadium rebuild 🎉
There is nobody in a profession of real estate, architecture, maintenance etc that will choose refurbish. Absolutely not.
Bernabau, camp nou, anfield. All being refurbished.
@@lilbaz8073dosnt mean it’s the right choice for old Trafford. Completely different circumstances.
Had the glazers maintained old Trafford properly for the last 20 years you would be right. Expanding it would be feasible. At this stage it’s more viable to start again though
@@samwize28 never said that it was the right choice for old trafford. I think they should knock it down and build anew.
I was disagreeing with the statement that nobody in the industry would refurb a ground. Which is plainly wrong as the examples i gave show.
@@lilbaz8073 I think he’s referring to old Trafford in particular, but I could be wrong,
If he’s referring to ‘rebuild over refurbish’ as a flat rule, then I agree with you
@@samwize28 fair enough if he is. We all agree. New ground.
Old Trafford has rich history.
Maybe ..but after the arsenal game I think it's apparent Utd need to build a new ground . That was the green light to get the bulldozers in
He talks about all these, "best in class" AND GET LINKED TO SOUTHGATE😂😂😂😂😂 WHAT A JOKE
Did he make the link or did the media make the link?
Nice try though. Really mature.
We were also linked to Mbappe, according to you that means we’re getting him 👍🏽
@@Boru06 How do you know Mr.Mature? Ineos should come out and state they're not looking for any manager at the moment and shut the media. They can replace the manager if they want and should never be with Southgate.
Southgate next pep.
aww, did you believe the media that Ten Hag's job was under threat? how cute
Dont be fools build a new stadium next to or oppisite the current one.
Come on guys its time to move on from the past man utd needs to move on.
Bulid new memories with a new state of the art stadium and get rid of this outdated leeky ground that is no longer good enough 😢😢😢
More people are up to the idea of a new stadium before fans didn't want to hear Old Trafford being knocked down
Sky Sports can't eat without talking about Manchester United the biggest club in the world❤
They've always favoured United ever since they tried to buy them in the 1990's
@@festavision sky didn't try to buy them, sky's owner did - imagine what would it be like if it did happen - that 2 decade run would have gone on even longer
Biggest club in the world begging for tax payers money. What a joke!
I dont think people quite understand what is meant by "using public funds" in this case.
Infrastructure!!
If roads were redesigned, bridges built and a better public transport system in place on match days, then traffic flow would be eased in the area meaning businesses arent wasting hours per day stuck in traffic going nowhere.
The long term boost to businesses would far outweigh the cost. Without that help from local councils, any new stadium would encounter the exact same problems that everyone suffers in south manchester when united are at home.
Thats not something have the authority, the right, or the responsibility to fix.
Thats why public money would be needed.
No that's what s106 agreements are for. The business pays for the infrastucture. In order to get planning permission.
They do understand it but they are using it as a stick to beat Utd with anyway.
If any rival fan chooses to believe his tax paying money is funding old Trafford then let them, and weaponise it. ‘’Cheers for building New Trafford mate’’ 😂
Finally someone who understands that a new ground needs public funding
@@lilbaz8073 no business pays for the benefit of other businesses - you are utterly clueless
@@matthewbaker2573 i'm utterly clueless? Bet you'd never heard of an s106 agreement before.
The fact that Old Trafford once host 2003 UEFA Champions League final means they can rival Wembley if they rebuilt.
Don’t understand why you keep saying they are pend in by the canal / railway. You could build stands over both and just have tunnels.
Build a new stadium. Use old Trafford for the women and academy games.
You can't have two stadia mate.
@@paulorganisation1 Why? Do you think they'll flatten Old Trafford when the new stadium is built?
@@Boru06 Of course, it'll be bulldozed. That space can then be used for fan park, bars, cafes, all that malarky. I expect another mini stadium will be built, maybe where east car park is, for the ladies and youth teams.
No, don’t desecrate Old Trafford with that poor imitation of football known as "women’s football".
@@Zagirus 🤣🤣🤣
Its better than knocking it though. If we are gonna have a women's team, may as well make them the biggest women's club in the world too.
I won't be watching their games though tbh 🤷
Cup Finals belong at the national stadium not at a clubs stadium. Silly
Yes but if it’s two northern teams playing why not have a venue up north where it can be played , saves fans loads of money and travel time . And it can be used for efl play off finals too !
Semi-finals used to be played at places like Old Trafford and Villa Park, until the FA went 2x over budget on Wembley so had to keep hosting semi-finals at Wembley in order to pay off the debt.
The New Trafford can be the National Stadium 2.0 😏
For me, my heart says to refurbish OT. Do with OT what Real Madrid have done to their stadium. But I know it’s probably not feasible and could be far more expensive.
Real Madrid tore it down and built it back up like Barcelona are doing
@@briansam5681 Madrid didn't do much to the stands. They built the towers on the corners, plonked a new roof on, and whacked on that "bed-pan" facade. And the silly underground pitch thing. Barca on the other hand is almost a full tear down and rebuild.
@@creepingbrain which is what United shd be looking to do...tear it down and build a new one.. you want to be a power house attracting the biggest names like you once did then some tough calls are gonna have to be made on infrastructure... Wonder why some just cannot let go of the old so that the club moves into the new era... We are still so hang up on the past including all the infrastructure that we quite literally stopped in time and cannot move forward
To be honest you can’t really compare our situation with Real Madrid….Madrid had the room to expand the stadium outwards, we really don’t have that. We have the railway on one side and the canal on the other. Could it be done, possibly, but it would be so expensive, and you still wouldn’t end up with best in class, which is what we deserve. Also you have to remember that Madrid’s stadium is much newer than Old Trafford (I think it was built in the 50s)…..and it was constantly upgraded.
I’m 62 now, and first went to OT in 1972 when I was 10…..loads of great memories in that place - but I honestly think it’s time to move on. Plus the stadium as it is today is completely different from the one I went to as a 10 year old. It’s not for me, but for the next generation, my son and my grandson who is 7 and loves Utd. Let’s build a stadium like no other, that my grandson and kids of his age can take their kids to (when they have them) and be proud of.
@@rufdymondWell said, I couldn't agree more.
It needs a slight refurbish, im an Everton fan I go home and away every week, old Trafford is the best stadium in the country because it’s a proper ground which grew organically all these new stadiums are sole less
the is existing technology that allows the stadium to be lifted mounted on rail tracks, and move it a short distance towards the center of that big emply land and roll it clockwise, that would give space on all four sides to be expanded as needed.
There is no bad decision here Sir Jim just pick one and do it.
At present The Old Trafford Stadium is still incomplete & needs is an upgrade of the SBC stand & East & West quadrant to be completed first before you can sort out the roof.
This Stadium has a lot of potential & can be one of the best stadium in Europe if not the world with the original design cos it has character & authentic with the potential capacity of at least 90K, all it needs is an refurbished & some TLC.
Take Note: The Stadium Expansion Must Not Exceed the rail way track!
Man Utd 's Old Trafford 'The Super Bowl of Stadiums known as 'The Theatre of Dreams' is unique & a Colossal of a stadium.
No, the stadium is just too old the inside looks like a nuclear bunker it's embarrassing.
Bayern Munich fans didn't want their old stadium to be knocked down but they had to do it now they have one of the best football stadiums in the world. We have been left behind. We need to make a statement with the best stadium in the world, one of the best training grounds.
Wanting a new stadium doesn't make you less of a United fan. And the history doesn't get left behind.
@@Abdi-libaax We diagree - Man Utd's Old Trafford Stadium known as 'The Theatre of Dreams' unique in style is the Super Bowl of stadiums & is potentially The best Stadium in the country, possibly the world.
The Owners were the ones who stop the Original project by using the excuse of the rail track complications. As stated previously, the design has already been laid out for completion of the stadium by original designers, to finish before the train track but the owners compromised by installed the 3rd tier cos the fans were complaining about the capacity at that time.
Alls well we like to think that once the owners depart or bring in SJR and his team we can address the layout for the necessary expansion of the South stand, East & West quadrant issue ASAP because Wembley or Man City's Etihad is to far to deal with the fan base, we're sure that can be achieved with minimal fuss, going by our walk around the stadium experience by observation.
Take Note: The Stadium Expansion should Not Exceed the rail track.
We feel with a 1bn budget to cover for at least 2 years copying Real Madrid project with the right people it can be achieved in line with progress on the pitch!
Worth a view, please share!
I hate the Fort of giving up on old Trafford but they've let it get that bad, it wud b dead wood, new stadium on the car park, 100,000 seater
A new stadium that will be second rate in 20 years again but will have no history and will be awful for atmosphere like all the brand new stadiums built.
@@stretfordender11 not if the plan is to bring other events to the area on top of the football increasing the foot flow of spending public works out. just think of how many taxi's, takeaways, pubs, hotels etc would benefit from money coming in from other parts of the country more often due to extra things happening
something Old Trafford is unfortunately not capable of
The stadium itself would earn revenue which could be used for it's upkeep, plus everyone local benefits as well
@@stretfordender11 Bayern’s Allianz Arena is approaching 20 years old and is still state of the art. Forward looking clubs take this sort of step
@@InstrumentalsBeats it’s not state of the art though is it. Looks a very Cheesey euro pop stadium.
@@matthewbaker2573 other areas 😂 why would we want other sports at old Trafford? That would mean the stadium won’t be built for football and will end up like Wembley which is one of the worst match going experiences there is. The stadium would end up partly owned by the government. Nah, you’re alright.
He's actually spot on though. Yes it is easier said than done and sometimes you don't always hit gold. That is where having scouts that are above average and are capable of picking out the right kind of talent for the right roles. It comes down to how well structured and how well communicated your scouting and recruitment teams are. You want them to be able to fish out the right kind of talent from the right places and know how to get conversations going, potential players monitored and get the ball rolling. Sir Jim is correct he just needs the right people behind him to pull it off. 😊
The huge debts means that they are unlikely to keep spending big.
They should hire me as a scout I bought Kaka and Ronaldinho on football manager way before AC Milan and PSG bought them. While my cousin bought Ricardinho who was a flop.
United need to sign Wirtz from Bayern Leverkusen now! And Leny Yoro and somehow arrange secret meeting with the agent Palmer to convince Cole Palmer (Manchester Boy United fan) to join.
Chelsea did Arsenal dirty by taking Ashley Cole from them after having secret meetings with him which they got fined for. Chelsea has the best youth recruitment in the country.
Not how i took his words, sounds more like he was saying United arent going to be pay silly money for Big name , he wants a young team of the next up-and-coming names, not that he wouldn't spend to get them. which is how skysports framed it, example it really wouldn't surprise me if he paid 100 mil for J.Neves coz he an investment young promacing etc ..
Stadium should be rebuilt and the old stadium take down to 30-40 thousand seat for youth and women team so we can still have tours, where they get that land map from the own more then that
the been build plot for decades ..
I think a new stadium to make Manchester United having the biggest stadium in the land the impact that will have would be much bigger than a rebuild
You need to sign succes players with a mix of the future if not your gonna stay behind! Maybe sign a benzema as a experience player en let hoijlond grow keep garnacho.. keep bruno.. dont give up on antony he wil do good but he’s not the player who’s gonna make individual the difference he needs a good team around him..
Refurb OT for Women's and Under 23's
Rebuild for Men's team and other events
I would like to think that United would play their games at the Anfield or the Etihad or the Elland Road as Old (New) Trafford is revamped or built.
🚨REFURBISHMENT PLEASE 🚨
New stadium with a few elements of the current Old Trafford
Couple of the red seats
The canal and the railway is the main issue, with the footprint I just saw there. Spurs built within their own stadium, but just changed the angle. If they do that with this, then it can work. But, they will be talking about this for another couple of years and nothing will happen. It'll probably start around 2027 or onwards
yea... looking at that images... they'll have to flatten the current staduim and change the angle.. then its still sort of old trafford... they will need a new home to play at in the interim.
@@csl750 goodison Park will be empty next year 🤣
The problem however, is what they can do in terms of the foundations near the canal and railway lines, they may have less room than you think as the footprint would be deeper than current to support higher tiers. Plus you have the problem of whether future expansion capacity will be possible, be little point in doing it if you only get a small increase with no further expansion without moving to a different location entirely. The space is rather oddly shaped too. Remember too that it is much more than just the space for the stands, you have to have areas for fans to be contained, facilities and other things. Plus they need the council and police to approve any plans.
@bionicgeekgrrl lol... Goodison will be empty.. thats cold man..
Look don't know about all the rest of it... just saying changing angle and building roughly in the same spot is the only to keep that same old Trafford feeling... or they should forget expansion and just fix up the place it's not that bad of a stadium and is already pretty big...
@@csl750 I think they might move it slightly but build over it. We'll see. I don't care tbh
Rebuild is not feasible without either playing in a different stadium for a couple of seasons (which would greatly harm revenue) OR buying more surrounding land to build a new stadium beside the current one. Just refurbish Old Trafford. Plain and simple solution, still by far the biggest club stadium in uk. Barcelona have on average 15,000 empty seats per game. Not guaranteed 100,000 seats sold at a new old Trafford each game. Just fix the roof for god sake! 😂
You can build a new stadium while still playing at Old Trafford and United own enough areas. They have even started giving local businesses notices to leave the areas owned by Manchester United.
No point asking wedderburn, he's a citeh fan
But WHY have they allowed the stadium to get into such a terrible state in the first place? I think the stadium was at it's best in 1994. Even though it was much smaller, it looked so much better, it looked neat. It started looking a MESS when they got greedy and started building on it.
Ask the glazers 😂
Looks like Utd fans were right about the glazers all along, and the media and rival fans were wrong….
Look at what they did to all the shopping malls they owned in the States.
Look at your debt levels. Then look at Barcelona, that is your future the way things are going.
@@bionicgeekgrrl the difference with Utd’s debt as of today (compared to previous years) is they now have sane owners in control of the club who will have the clubs best interest at heart. They will tackle the debt in the best way possible
I suggest a ( High) cover over the channel so it doesn't hinder the flow of traffic , and the river, and making Old Trafford an oval shape , loads of space for the rest of the development planned. Just my opinion.
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In France...over the channel.
I think they should build a new stadium, but keep the current stadium too for certain matches or as a gallery of iconic stature.
not enough space for that duh
@@HappyBob701 Well you clearly haven’t done your research. Man United owns the surrounding areas of Old Trafford too, and there is a space right next to the stadium for another similarly sized stadium
120000 should be next old Trafford capacity,not 100000 , it's selling United short , biggest club in the world should have the biggest stadium .
Do you realise how far away the top seats would be from the pitch in a 120,000 stadium. You would need a pilots license just to get in the ground
Rebuild, let’s do what Madrid have done. Build the best stadium in the world.
They could try to build a stadium in Manchester but there might not be enough space.
Eli Junior Kroupi... That's the one.
Be sad to see Old Trafford go if that's what happens but I think it's time to build a new stadium and get back to being the best stadium in league again
Man United should be having revenue of 600m, before sponsorship and match day revenue, Ed Woodward was looking in the wrong direction to increase revenue
I like what I heard. Tired of spending big and getting bad returns. I'm here hoping Anthony's future is extremely bright, we just seeing his growing pains. So we'll look back at 85mil and say "That was a steal!"
Build a new stadium, can’t expand the stand next to railway line, roof goes in too low around ground, a new more modern stadium with more space is what we need. Old Trafford will always be an iconic stadium but reached its limits in expansion
If it was me i'd build a stand over the train track.. have a tunnel going through it and have a station to get fans to games actually in the stadium. They could do that easy!
should have been decided when it was announced no Euro 2028 games will be played there but they are on the blue side
at least they will fill their stadium i guess
bite the bullet, build a new stadium is better as the current stadium can't add more seat anymore due to the limitation.
The further they slip down the league they wont need extra seats. For gods sake get a grip of reality!
@@SuperFredc no they really won't
for gods sake get a grip of reality
@@SuperFredc hater
@@SuperFredcthe demand for tickets has never slowed down the glazers had no clue how big United really is. Making more money than teams that win titles every year. And the hate is still as strong as ever.
@@Abdi-libaax That`s utter Bollox. Show me facts! Manchester CITY and Real Madrid sit at the top of European clubs earning most revenue, with United in 5th or 6th much like their league position. Do your research so you don`t look like an idiot. Your comment only serves the opinion that if they are so big with more money than most WHY ASK FOR PUBLIC/TAX PAYERS MONEY for help???
Considering the ground in the area is sinking (I worked over the road and the building had sunk 3 inches in a year) they should probably move
Bring on joao neves , bring on olise , oshimen , todibo etc
Stay at Old Trafford That's where all The History Has Happened over The Years
If they build a new stadium right next to the existing stadium it will still be located at Old Trafford
100,000 capacity
Retractable roof and pitch.
A new build is the more viable option for the long term.
Refurbing the current stadium becomes a money pit. A new build becomes a cash cow.
New stadium make it 100k seater and the best that' was ever build it will be full every home game
Knock it down and move the men’s team to Leigh Sports Village. They already play matches there.
can't even fit 25% of the season ticket holders in that stadium
Why Southgate? If that's the case then why not continue with ETH?
It’s easier is to build a new stadium but it will be soulless. It would be harder to refurbish but it would mean so much more. The club has an incredible history. The field should be kept. Only link to previous eras.
Triggers broom. If it’s the same site then it’s the same stadium as far as I’m concerned.
@@samwize28 I just dont want a toilet bowl designed stadium
I never heard of the word 'Triggers broom' before. 😅 Ya, you have a solid point. At minimum the old field should be kept & make into a 10k seater stadium which could accommodate matches, pre match activities & fan zones & they could then build a new stadium from scratch. @@samwize28
You can't say a player has failed when you're fielding 11 of them. The team failed! And that starts from the board to management, all the stuff members and the team. This team is broken from the core everyone is still stuck in the old models that worked in the 2000s. Spending millions without any adequate structure and positive environment will take us nowhere. Chelsea and PSG are also some good examples of this. When Chelsea was bought 2 years ago a lot of good people also left the team which left them in their current situation.
We can't keep on (only) blaming the players. All of them were playing well before joining our team, not it's like they are in an old age home, ready to retire. We have to be honest, our team is a career killer and we need to look deep into it
Someone plz tell Jim that Mbappe doesn’t have transfer fees if u spend 70m on Anthony give 50m to Mbappe for signing and 20m for a year
Sir jim is right,we want young fresh blood,look at our young attackers they are amazing and mainoo
I idea of having somewhere up north where efl playoff finals can be played is logical and so beneficial , especially if it’s two northern teams playing in the final .!
Even if the stadium is moved out of Manchester ot Edinburgh I'd still support the notion of building a brand new stadium...we all need to understand that Manchester United is a " People" not a "place" anywhere Manchester United is/are is where our stadium is.
Whe should stop fussing over a brick saying it has history , it was once new now made to make history, build another one ans let it make it's history
Ggmu ❤❤❤
Bulldoze Old Trafford and move to somewhere more local like Plymouth
Isle of Man 👀👀
Rebuild. Love OT but we need a new one.
Kind of stupid question when no one has seen any plans
The patient bird gets the worm
Fixing the team is more important than that the stadium for me
Rebuild ffs
FA Cup Finals away from Wembley! Not a chance! What a downgrade that will be for teams.
Knocking down old Trafford heritage will cost them more, but they are only doing it for a profit.
Keep Old Trafford and build it up and use the other space. Get more seats and keep the heritage.
Either way there is no wrong decision.
I want Man u to go back to their old glory with this young up coming players
That red line is wrong! The club own more of the land left than that red line! The Club is tied with the problem of the railway line. The roof design is restricted to fans sitting in the upper floors of the north East and west stands. The lower part of stands south north east and west have restricted legroom. There is no space for Big TV screens like at spurs. The concourses are cramped and there are no fan experience before or after games. No fan zones ect. Spurs can make £6m a game £2m a game more than us. We need to get back to be setting the standards on and off the pitch like we used to. New build is the best way of doing this.
Geoff Bent, Roger Bryne, Eddie Colman,Duncan Edward’s,Mark jones, David Pegg, Tommy Taylor and Liam Whalen. There’s 8 reasons to why we should not knock old Trafford down it was there home it was there dreams that’s more than bricks and mortar more that steel and glass a new stadium won’t have that sort of make up blood sweat and tears have all been united at old Trafford
Rebuild state of the Art change is really needef🎉
Looking at those plans there is not enough room to build another stadium without knocking ot down and play somewhere else which will mean a loss of revenue.... Renovate!!!
Why would it? Spurs used wemberly as a home venue while their was built, united could do the same. That has a capacity or about 14-15k more than OT. I admit wemberly is not ideal as a home venue as it's location is miles away from Manchester, but my point is more, there are venues that would keep the same revenue, even increase it.
@@mattf9406 who would let utd use there ground nobody and if they did it wouldn't be as big as old t so it would be a revenue loss
@@joshsmith255 how can you say that when united would have no say on ticket prices if it was a venue share? But if course other clubs would agree to a share, as would united if it's the other way around. Clubs are not silly and they know this same thing could happen to them at some point so allow it for that reason. Plenty of teams have ground shared in the prem in the past.
Knock it down but don't build another one would be the best option
Can’t they build it nearer to the fan-base?
Rebuild. Look at Arsenal and Tottenham. Very impressive grounds thst will please the corporates but soulless in comparison to their old grounds. If football really is about the fans then we have to stay.
for me it's 100% refurbish!!!! it's one thing to be Tottenham and build a new stadium and it is entirely another thing to be Man United and give up 114 years of history. Old Trafford has something deeper to it, there is an electricity in the air when you walk on that pitch, the opposition players feel a certain way coming here, you can't buy that with all the money in the world. A smart steward of the club would not giveaway something that you can never buy. The history of the place is an asset in itself.
Not difficult at all. Just spend the money and shut up. Bring genuine design quality, Exceptional planning, and fund it yourself.
Old Trafford needs a new stadium, the stadium now is rusting and outdated, if anything serious happens in that stadium, and people are injured, there will be massive law suits, building a new stadium, yes, it will cost a fortune, but, with the supporters, and other means that the new stadium could be used for, it could be paid of a lot quicker. Then with the team, get rid of any players overpaid and not good enough for those wages, which is a lot of those players, and rebuild the squad.
Spent money under the Glazers?! It’s United’s own money.
should be at least 100.000 the match against Liverpool would have got 120,000 easily
Stadium CANNOT be knocked down it needs a revamp the place is beyond special. There will only ever be one stretford end
Build a new stadium for the men’s team.
The bern a bayou
Refurb. Old Trafford has so much history, even survived world war 2 bomb. The busby babes graced that stadium and the class of 92. Should be a listed building
That was a pity...
A new stadium changes none of that history. Same problem with the South stand if we do a refurb. Could still play at OT while a new one is being built. I think the benefits of a new stadium out weigh the negatives, maybe if there was a solution for the South stand I would tilt more to a refurb.
Does a new stadium change the history of the club? I mean you have to be a real idiot to say NO to a new bigger stadium?
Triggers broom.
Also it’s not in Manchester and “industrial heritage” it’s probably the richest place in Manchester with media city etc
Rebuild for me.
Even the stadium like the team looks run down and old
We could play in Goodison while it’s being rebuilt
You would have to get in their quick then! As Everton have likely budgeted for demolition and sale of the stadium land to finance their new one.
I love how TV channels emply the greatest specialists in each field to enlighten the public. Or, then again, maybe not? You're talking about a stadium. You're debating construction. Maybe asking a few Engineers and Architects would be a good idea, for the public to understand what goes into consideration by the owners and the board. I for one, since I know nothing about stadium building, think you should build a flying stadium. Or maybe a stadium on the Moon. I know, it's a stupid opinion, but its validity is on par with Sky's.
I think they should refurbish old trafford completely, they could staart by changing the stands round , so they face the car park and not the rubbish they see on the pitch .
DONT RECYCLE ♻️
He didn't say they aren't going to be spending big, he said they'd be looking for the next Mbappe. That isn't going to come cheap whoever it is!
Garnacho cost less than half a million. that's pretty cheap
New stadium pls
If you think United is only going to buy those players you lie.
United and Superstars are intertwined
Sir Bob Murray discussed "The Wembley of the North" in the mid 90s. Twin towers etc. in Washington. It was thankfully shelved, and he built the Stadium of Light.
Following its success, and budget, the FA got him on board with the re building of Wembley.
He is right , they are right to find their own talent and then sell them to the big boys 👍
He’s not asking for tax payers money to build a stadium. He’s asking for it because of the investment in the surrounding area. Some of these media people need to do better.
Why does every brit keep saying " sir jim" but won say it when talking about people who isn't from the UK? (Out of curiosity)
MANCHESTER United need a refurbish rebuild on the team more
50mil, each player should be the limit for united anything more they flop. midfielder defender striker
100,000 seats is too low. I would have expected at least half a million seats.