2000's Systems! Teardown and Test!
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
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Let's explore some systems from the early-mid 2000s!
0:00 Intro
0:15 System 1 Tour
3:23 S1 Disassembly and inspection
6:12 S1 CPU Booboo
8:54 S1 Repair and refresh
15:44 S1 Testing
19:19 S1 More cleanup and verdict
20:14 System 2 Tour
21:20 S2 Disassembly and inspection
25:49 S2 PSU Test etc
28:06 S2 Testing
34:47 S2 Cleanup and verdict
35:28 System 3 Tour
36:11 S3 Disassembly and inspection
39:08 S3 CPU Refresh and MB pull
41:02 S3 Testing
46:43 S3 Verdict
47:04 Outro
This guy's channel is like ASMR for turbo nerds
So damn true
I used to work in a computer shop. Those Best Buy stickers were basically "this computer wasn't fixed" badges.
had many come my way that had these on them. most were actually fixable.
ALDI Computers, dust bunny habitats, crappy power supplies & crapacitors. Mike's channel has it all! 😉
Love how the PCs were used for over a decade too.
Medion just went all in on hardware quantity, not quality. It brings back bad memorys about missing drivers.
Was Aldi’s. Mandela Effect.
@@jjb8171 Surprising to hear, because I've had a Medion a long time ago, and it was perfectly fine. Maybe you had bad luck ?
Wow, I love your trick for fixing bent CPU pins.
I like using mechanical pencils. Take out the lead and you have a narrow metal barrel you can use to straighten them. Seems to work better on narrower CPU pins.
I use those nozzle tubes that attach to Canned Air/ WD40 cans @@joshpayne4015
We serviced many Medion desktops back in the day at my shop. They were sold on the Home Shopping Network. They pushed their TV Tuner cards on the Greatest Generation customers who thought it was cool to watch TV on their computer.
I like those blue case accents. Funny story, I built a computer several years ago and didn't really know much about parts selection. I got a case with cool looking vertical sections down each side of the front that looked like LED lights, but didn't know for several years how to make them light up. Doing an upgrade one day, I finally found the wire to connect them and discovered they were in fact blue lights! I never said I was a genius 😆
these videos are incredibly detailed, concise, and well put together, as a linux user myself i appreciate the little compatibility note, even though it means nothing, us nerds know each other better than we know ourselves!
I remember back in the day drooling over those PCs while my mom was shopping, but was never able to afford one
Came here for those guns, stayed for the nerdery. Nice channel ;)
Mike uploaded and now my day is better 😄
Ex Geek Squad here, those are definitely Best Buy security stickers that would have been put there when the customer brought the PC in for service.
Mike your videos are great - the systematic and granular level of breaking down and testing these systems is well done. If you ever want to grow the channel in a new direction, taking your clean-cut and detailed approach to explaining basic electronics could also be a great content goldmine for you. Example: @ 36:40 you talk about the strange setup with the fan header extension. A video covering the basics of connector pinouts and how each are manipulated/communicate could be a great video or series of videos depending on how you cut it. Take care!
Thanks! I’ve thought about doing something like that. A ‘circuit walk’ if you will. It’s definitely something I’d like to try once I’m able to devote more time to the channel.
@@miketech1024 I upvote for this ^^
Fun fact: My main PC was a Medion prebuilt from 2010 up untill recentely
The 'Aldi PC' was the first windows machine my parents bought. There was also a bunch of software with it like 'Microsoft Encarta'. Nice to see it here again 😊
I owned the 1st Medion PC as a kid in 2002! Never thought I'd see it again
i live near and Aldi and they do still sell Computer laptops phones, i didn't know until now that there are Aldis in the US. And Windows 7 that is so recent in my work they did intall Windows 7 on allot of XP machines and it works great besides the dead internal batteries they can even handle Aero, that's how good Windows 7 was.
Aldi has been in the US for over 20 years. Maybe a lot longer. Lidl is also in the US and both of them are trying to expand everywhere.
I recognize that Medion's case. Turns out Medion PCs were branded as Cicero and sold at Future Shop in Canada.
Medion is not far from me, the company sits on a former German army base.
There was a lot of hype about Medion Aldi PCs in the 90s, there are old news reports showing that people were queuing up for the PCs and fighting over them. Price / performance was ok.
Medion PCs were also sold under other names, Lifetec. There was a separation between Aldi Nord and aldi Süd in Germany at that time. if I remember correctly Lifetec was aldi süd.
I remember these kind of Medion systems in ALDI. ALDI usually has special offers (super buys) on Thursdays and Sundays. They would have a bunch of stuff on a theme. The PCs would be one model, limited to being released at one time, but often a pretty good deal versus the other makes. My neighbour had a couple over the years and I helped fix them. The custom front panel and an MSI motherboard was a staple of the 2000s Medion. I am sure the offers leaflets are online somewhere.
And this particular design was around for a while as well, I had an earlier model with the same face but a Windows Me Pentium 3 System inside (and no built-in video capture).
Here in EU we also have the same practices by LIDL. :)
Still watching, but love the puns as-always 👌. It's a perfectly cromulent power supply ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
6:00 I reckon someone smushed those pins socketing the CPU while it was stuck to the heatsink.
great video, so relaxing and fun
I always liked how easy it was to distinguish the different Athlon and Athlon XP cores just by looking at the die. Guess there are advantages to having no heat spreader! I used to have a 2500+ Barton back in the day, and the best thing about it was you could set the FSB speed to 400mhz from stock 333 and it was identical to a 3200+ at a fraction of the price!
I agree with you. The 2500+ Barton was the best. Overclocking beasts. Best XP's ( including Microsoft's ) ever made.
You have amazing arms 😍
Nice video!
Thanks!
During my time working for a small PC builder, I used a razor blade to straighten pins on older Ryzen CPU's. As you could straighen multiple pins at a time.
Yeah, razor blades are my go-to implement for straightening pins (for modern CPU’s anyway)
I never skip ads for Mike ❤
FSP is actually a very well regarded power supply manufacturer as far as I know. At least in terms of their OEM supplies. (I think their consumer ones are slightly less well regarded tho if I remember right) Might be worth a repair, then again I imagine you don't have a shortage of ATX power supplies.
oh man, those FSP PSUs are pretty nice, until they kill your mainboard. i once used a 400W FSP PSU from a Fujitsu-Siemens Scaleo P as my main PSU for quite a few different PCs, until it killed my Gigabyte GA-Z97-UD3. since then i am using a Seasonic 650W PSU.
FSP supplies are junk, they use no-name wofat garbage caps in them that fail. Right down there with HEC, Liteon, Bestec, etc.
@@GGigabiteM never had an issue with them myself. Also they get used in a decent amount of enterprise and pre-built stuff by larger OEMs, which I very much doubt they would do if they weren't at least decent. Those companies fucking suck and make crap half the time, but they don't want the liability of a computer catching on fire.
But interesting to hear your experience. Will keep it in mind.
@@mina47879 I've recapped dozens and dozens of FSP supplies in all matters of OEM systems, they're just junk. They would be fine units if they hadn't cheaped out on the capacitors, which cause other component failures in the supply if left bad long enough.
They use no-name crap like OST, Stone, Teapo-Cheapo and AsiaX to name a few.
The only reason they're worth recapping are if they're proprietary form factor units, which are entirely the realm of OEM systems like Dell and HP, who LOVE to use proprietary PSU designs.
Great entertaining video. Thank you.
Medion PCs were kind of famous in germany in the early 2000s. And they were mostly sold in the ALDI grocery store which had a small electronics assortment which consisted of temporary offers until sold out. So they never had a regular assortment of electronics, just an isle were they sold everything from mattresses, to BBQs or vacuum cleaners on an occasional basis. The Medion PCs were very reasonably prized and were famous for being sold out on the first day of the offering. Buyers were mostly normal folks not the computer geeks.
That yellow connector goes in a fx5200 medion oem
this channel is a hidden gem
This video was relaxing to watch
it's me, i'm the fan goblin.
i gotta lot of grow lights to cool mike, i'm sorry. ♥
Impressive video, I'm so proud of you!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
another video, awesome Saturday surprise!
your videos are awesome ! I am also a retro enthusiast and have so much fun watching your videos!
Another awesome soothing, relaxing and happy video from you! I just love your magical disappearing screw editing. AMSR to the max! Have a great weekend.
They were actually sold in the Aldi stores as promo things. Usually they had just a couple in stock for each store, so you had to be there fast to get one. Good prices though!
Medion also sold their PC's through their online shop as well, but they stopped with that recently.
Been a subscriber since you had 2k subs and can already tell, that it’s going to be a long way full of subscriber milestone moments ❤️
Just started watching your videos, can’t stop now 😅
You have a very pleasant demeanour and knowledgeable. Good videos. Subscribed
They sold the Medion PC's directly in store, it was always quite an event, people were lining up before the store even opened because they sold pretty cheap for what it was at the time.
(source: i am from Germany)
I love this channel
Oh man. This brings back so much childhood memories. Thank you for sharing the detailed tear down of those beauties
Always like your videos there cutie!
Thanks for another super pun video! Cheers
Feel ya!
10 minutes in and I already love this channel. You're awesome.
The molex connector for the fan in the third one is because older MBs couldn't handle fans with high amps, the fans simply wouldn't spin up. I had a few fans in those days that would not work when connected to MB headers.
More XP-era stuff please and thank you :)
What is this XP you speak of. I was running Windows 2000 and waited patiently for 10 minutes for it to boot... and I was grateful.
and 7-era like the last PC
Cool channel brother, I love watching these old PC's. Reminds me of those good and simple days using them 😊. +1 sub for you 👍
Hi Mike, thanks for the great vintage computer stuff. greetings from Germany! :)
8:25 i did not know marlbolo made an thermal paste! btw im an fan of you @MikeTech! i like ur content alot! i hope u will ind more systems to clean and explore them! and keep ur content up (:
I look forward to your new videos as much as I do channels like LGR... congrats on all your success so far and to much more!
Mike, Brill videos , been into retro computers for a while, enjoyed your you tube now subscribed nice one keep the vid`s going
Great video as usual. I started pootering in 1994 and now have computers all over the house and I can still relate to the early machines. My earlist working pc is a P1 75mhz overclocked to a massive 100mhz now running W95. My latest are Ryzen 5000 series powered and Intel 9000 series. I mainly run Linux now, but still use W95, 98, 2000, XP, 7, 10 and recently 11.
congrats on your steady growth as a channel!
Thanks!
These videos always feel nice to watch, learning new things, seeing old things, and admiring how computers have progressed. Makes me want to build a custom mid-2000's PC
Must be nice to have access to all of that !
I'd be happy with just one computer.
Thanks for sharing Mike. I have learned so much from your videos. 👍
The guns though 💪
Those old lite-on direct drive DVD drives are some of the most reliable drives i've seen. I never had one fail on me
Wow an Aldi computer! I bet they were sold in larger Aldi stores. Until this video I never knew they existed. I love the look of it so cool! It certainly had a lot of dust inside. I like the mommy board.😆 I love learning new things from your videos. My pleasure is watching you dig into every system. I never new you could fix pins like that.
Greetings from Scotland. Another brilliant video Mike! Love watching these and seeing all these 'vintage' computers being saved. If I had to guess, I reckon the business that owned the 2nd and 3rd PC, probably retired the 2nd one when support for Windows XP ended (the date of those last used files are very close to that time period) and then shoehorned Windows 7 onto the 3rd machine to squeeze some additional life from it for the software they used.
I wasn't a huge fan of the first video i watch of yours, however after watching a good number ive become a fan, your style and presentation is fantastic, thank you for your time and effort.
@3:12 I worked for Best Buy many years ago (2001 - 2003ish), those stickers were used to tag things coming into the store so you knew they were not part of the sales inventory. Basically it was an anti-theft measure to stop people from leaving with not paying for things. My guess is that that PC was taken there for repair or upgrade, and that tag just marked it as not owned by Best Buy. It is a date.
I think those Best Buy stickers were put on when that computer was brought into the building as proof that you brought it in (when leaving the building). Likely brought in to Geek Squad, though no guarantee they did anything, just that it was brought into the store.
Love your work mikey brah another couple machines saved from thos evil gold scrapers
The first PC you showcased was the first computer I've ever used, down to the Sims 2 DVD that must be still laying around somewhere at my parents' house. Mine came with an Athlon XP x2 and 256/512 mb of RAM though so i guess i got the low-end trim of the lineup. The PSU on mine was different and had an OBNOXIOUSLY loud 120/140 mm fan arranged in pull configuration on the bottom of the shroud. Good times.
It was also the first PC i ever disassembled, and the first time i learned what happens when you don't handle a mechanical hard drive with care. Oops!
Sadly apart from the dead drive, either the PSU or motherboard went kaboom may years ago, and i never got around to diagnosing it. But the reason that PC holds a special place in my heart is the time my mother opened it up to clean it and i started wondering what all those things on the inside were there for. Fast forward a decade, and now I've got a computer engineering degree and halfway through a machine learning master, all because of that old underpowered (keep in mind i was using it in the 2010s) rust bucket, lol!
The embossed Powerbutton and Made in Germany on the Medion PC: Thats a Terra Case labeled for Medion.
The Button is the Terra Symbol.
This Chassi was around for about 10-15 years only with different Faceplate. The second Aldi PC had it for sure.
The Pentium MMX 166MHz from 1996. The Chassi was used till about 2008.
Lite-On was a close partner to Medion and Medion sold Lite-on products directly in Germany, even in Aldi-Stores you could buy the Optical Drives, when it was Computerparts weeks. Thats how those were and still are sold: One or two Weeks twice a year in the "special Week" they are sold to get more costumers into the Shop.
Wortmann AG is a PC Manufacturer in Germany and it's Professional Trademark is Terra, with it own Productionline.
Today they do Office PC and Servers.
Older German Gens may remember their Consumer Line and Shops: "Vobis"
Todays Medions PC and Laptops gomes mostly from MSI.
These videos are amazing! Thank you for taking the time to share your passion with us. Recommendation: Make an ASMR of the POST process, hard drive click of death, and uncasing a full-size tower, to name a few.
neat computers, also i love your apple watch background :D
Digging the BFG sticker.
The first machine is very nice looking!!!
The end of a mechanical pencil works even better for straightening cpu pins. Perfect size.
Those Best Buy stickers are what they put on when you walk in the store with it for service or whatever.
I'm from the UK and vaguely remember seeing desktops for sale (with powered up demonstration models!) in my local CO-OP supermarket :)
Hey man, ran into you over at vcf southeast and been loving your content since you mentioned the channel to me!
Thought you might wanna know, the original graphics card was likely a Medion as well for that first system. I have a handful of their VGA cards and a few of them have similar form factor connectors, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was specifically a Medion GeForce ti4200, I've got one with the input for that connector and the yellow matches perfectly!
Pretty neat as although I knew what the connector was for after some research, I've never found a system that actually had the output ports!
My family bought a medion core 2 duo system from aldi here in the UK after our emachines PC died. Was an awesome windows vista machine with similar media capture features in your system.
LOL that ending, I don't know what to think about it either.
I had a Medion back in the day, was my first "real" gaming PC, upgraded from a Pentium 1. Mine came with a Geforce MX440 and also had this connector to the front panel for S-Video and other stuff. First thing I upgraded was the GPU since the MX440 didn't support some newer shaders. This brings back so many memories... Thank you, great video!
early 2000's were great for PCs and gaming. PC cases today are boring compared to what you could do with those. Gotta love them stickers!
Never imagined to see a Medion Aldi PC on your channel, that’s just awesome 😂
been getting that pump on icu.
Neat trick to use the foam for holding the CPU and keeping the pins safe.
I like this channel. It reminds me 20 years ago.... Things were not that simple and PNP. excelent job @MikeTech!
I love the nostalgia of that era, although I used and sold only Athlons in preference to the P4s in those years. Those brown caps are United Chemicon, a very high quality brand that we can always rejoice in seeing on a board.
Grrrrrr that thumbnail! 🤩
We had one of those Aldi PCs, and yes you bought it in the store, came with a branded keyboard and mouse as far as I remember. I still have 2 Medion notebooks from 05
I worked at best buy then, it was just something security put on when someone brought something in so they knew it wasn't stolen.
ah medion, it's for sure a system on my list of stuff to acquire, yet i am dying to get another ATX case for my next vista build, you could say you effectively "coaxed me" into messing with my old desktops again, can't wait to see some Dells!
Now I gotta check out Aldi again, don't go there often but whatever sauerkraut they sell it is fantastic.
I didn't know that Aldi made PCs. Shouldn't be surprised I guess. An Aldi computer that is collectible from what I keep seeing, is the Aldi Commodore 64 though it may be limited to just Europe.
Great video as always.
For Athlon XP you will need old versions of browsers, because chrome based started requiring SSE2, which this processor doesn't have. Other things may work fine relatively, but windows 10 will need it too i think.
Extensions are a large part of old processors not being able to do modern computing. I have a 6 core monster Phenom II that's practically a brick these days despite it being a decent clock speed and 6 cores and the system having 12GB of ram.
@@tarajoe07 I was using Phenom 2 X4 955 until i got myself I7 in 2014, and my friend used similar until just last year, when he switched to Ryzen. It's power is just not enough anymore for personal use, but for office use it is pretty ok. But i noticed how much slower it crunches windows 10, as with early i3 that i have.
@@Jutah82 exactly. It's the lack of newer extensions. They make modern processors more efficient and some tasks outright can't be done without them.
nice, i did use my athlonXP machine as my main computer until 2010 on winXP, i had a a7n8x deluxe motherboard and i had a mobile athlon XP oc'd to 2.4ghz and the last gpu i had in it was a 6600 GT, it was beast!
Zip drives outside of the click of death were mostly amazing
I like on the power supply at 13:45 or so, it says W/Noise Killer . Neat..
Hey, my family had a Medion computer from ALDI with that exact case and silver globe power button! Same looking modem card with the white plastic block on it, too! Oh, the memories! Must've missed the P4 and MX4000 spec by a year or two though, ours had a P3 1000 and a GeForce 2 and it also didn't have Windows XP, it came with the dreaded Windows ME which honestly worked out perfectly stable and reliable for us though.
I had a Medion sometime ago. They always put the dessicant inside the case. At least here in EU. But given the fact your Medion was built in Germany, I guess your dessicant bags are also from the factory =)
Btw, I'm addicted to your channel. Looks like we're from the same era (born in 1984 for me).
yay... glad you made it today. sorry for bothering you on friday