Romans 8:26 Likewise, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.
I interpret praying “in the Spirit” as praying with a mind set on the things of the spirit as opposed to the flesh. “For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.” Romans 8:5-6 ESV I believe that coincides with the passage brother Corey brought up about praying with your mind also: “What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.” 1 Corinthians 14:15 ESV
@@Nkosi766 No the spirit and the mind are two different things The mind is your cognitive ability to understand your environment. The Spirit is the influence either from God to be as moral person, or from the devil to follow him, God sets the standards for morality.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 , you expect me to believe that? Is god’s morality found in the Bible? By today’s standards of morality, is it moral to stone unruly children to death? Is it moral to own a human being and beat them half to death without punishment? Is it moral to invade a country and kill everyone except for virgin girl , that you get to keep for yourself, even killing animals because they worship differently than you do? What morality are you talking about? The Bible is immoral
Oohhhh brother this is real good. I'm really feeling this teaching because i always wanted to understand truly what speaking in tongues means. It is clear that many understood the disciples when they spoke in tongues because there were many different language speaking understanding all of them. This is nice 💪🙏🔥🙏🔥🙏🔥👀
It’s crazy about the debates on praying in the spirit and praying in tongue/tongues. People always go to examples of the disciples. But rarely have I heard anybody go to the greatest example of all and that’s Jesus Christ! The Bible never shows were Jesus Prayed in tongues and he was full of the Holy Spirit.
@hayeschrist1 which goes back to tongues and how the scripture presents them. As a sign and by the disciples as the person stated Jesus was full of the Spirit and not once does the Bible mention him speaking to His Father in a tongue (THIS WOULD BE VERY KEY because when asked how to pray he did not mention anything about tongues) Although not sealing him as now all believers He still was full of the Spirit and the Spirit was upon Him. Same Spirit but the function was for a sign. John 7:37-39 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified. In context it says "THE SPIRIT whom they were to receive. Man has now inserted their view that SPIRIT is synonymous with tongues. That's not what He was saying then or now. Both examples had to deal with being born again and the Holy Spirit. If we want to hear about flow again we can look at the woman at the well. “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water”. Again this is speaking in context to the HOLY SPIRIT himself filling or indwelling a believer. After she responded, he went on to say, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never thirst again; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life” (John 4:13-14).
@hayeschrist1 38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 7:38-39 NKJV There is no indication in this passage about prayer or anything to do with tongues. There was no indication even in the slightest of Jesus speaking in a "heavenly tongue or language" even those who say Angelic Tongues or Language, with the many many stories of angels in the bible not one spoke in a language that was not understandable to the human audience that was hearing it
Corey, this is an excellent explanation of speaking in tongues. Most in the church use this according to bad teaching or by their own experience. I have been teaching and explaining this same as you just did....thank you!
I would love for you to change my mind, but Paul says if you bless with the Spirit that no one understands. So why should we assume that "in the Spirit" ALWAYS is an understood language? If praying in the spirit means we pray according to the scriptures in known Language we understand, then what would the difference be of praying with understanding? Why even make the contrast? I would contend that praying with the Spirit means to do so with utterance, not just out of your natural understanding, but being led. This could be in tongues in the case of 1 cor 14 but not necessarily in the other cases like many in Acts.
1 Corinthians 14:15-17 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified. Not only that but Paul clearly says if you bless with the spirit you do give thanks well but the other is not edified. Because all of these are listed together, you could literally replace "bless with the Spirit" with "pray with the Spirit" and the end result is still that they are not understood. Earlier in the chapter we find out that the church not edified because they don't understand the tongues that are being spoken. I honestly feel like your take is inconsistent. You say "Praying with the Spirit is simply praying in understanding according to scripture"....yet somehow you can bless with the Spirit and someone doesnt understand?? I doesn't line up! Thoughts? Edit: for the record, I have pulled back from tongues over the last few months while I weight these things out according to scripture. You have one of the best takes on this topic, but like I said, this whole idea that praying in the Praying in the Spirit is understandable (only 1 cor 14) doesn't make sense because he says blessing with the spirit is not understandable. Maybe I'm just too dumb? Lol 😂 but I promise I challenge this BECAUSE I am doing my best to be a good Berean. I am not just going to take your word for it when it doesn't line up. I know I repeat myself a bit, but it's because I just can't look over it.
God understands all languages so why not pray in English. I have asked people who speak in tounges what they said, the answer was I don't know. That's not a gift.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 I could honestly say the same back. if the bible says we give thanks well in the Spirit (tongues), then why not pray in tongues since it would also be according to scripture. If it means that we are praying out mysteries that we couldn't naturally know to pray, then why not pray in the Spirit? If praying in the tongues is from God wouldn't they be perfect prayers too? Wouldn't this be a benefit? The bible says the fervent prayers of the righteous make power available. If the Spirit gives me utterance in tongues to pray, it must be for a reason. Btw, I'm not of the assumption that you pray in tongues whenever you want. I beleive it should still be as the Spirit wills.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 ps - I'm still focused on the inconsistency though regarding blessing with the Spirit not being understood vs Corey's and I assume your view. Care to answer that, I'm honestly looking for answers.
@@BEABEREAN10 The Greek word meaning language is Glossolalia. The new testament scriptures are written in Greek. The English translation is tounges. Tounges are a language used by tribes, nations and cultures for communication. Of I were to say,. Sh,'ma Yisrael Adonai Eliheinu Adonai Ehad,. you may say I spoke in tounges. That was Yiddish which is Hebrew. Biblical definition of tounges are always a know language because there are no references for angel talk. If you don't know what you are saying and I don't know what you said there is no edification and Apostle Paul said you are to be silent. Shalom is Hebrew for peace 🕎
Romans 8 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities; for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
The part of the sentence that says "cannot be uttered" in greek is ἀλάλητος or Alateos, which means unspeakable or silent. The Spirit of God intercedes for us. But it is never heard. This does not stand as an argument for those who use it for praying with glossolalia.
For me, when I pray in the spirit, it simply means that my prayer is beyond words and sometimes my spirit knows things that I can't put into words. Sometimes its God guiding and telling me what to do, sometimes its me making a choice and planning my own actions, and sometimes Im moved by the spirit even when I may not know where its moving me. I had to learn to trust it and when to trust it Thats also the trinity for me too. I do believe in the trinity but I do not believe that Genesis refers to the trinity when it says "Let us make man in our own image" I believe someone just thought it sounded good
If praying in the Spirit is praying in an unknown language, what about those who are not given the ability to speak in languages (1 cor 12:30)? Does that mean that they cannot pray in the Spirit? Did God gave a command to all believers to pray in the Spirit (Ephesians 6:18) but only give some the ability to obey that command?Of course not! Praying in the Spirit Has nothing to do with the words that come out of one’s mouth, but rather HOW they are praying, in other words, praying according to the will of the Spirit Himself. A believer can perfectly pray in the Spirit in their native language.
@hayeschrist1 classic Pentecostal response to try go around the fact that God clearly teaches in His word that Speaking in tongues is GIFT, nothing else. Following your logic, we must also conclude that all believers work miracles right even tough not all have the gift of working miracle? If yes what’s the difference between a believer working a miracle without having the gift? Same with healing… all believers heal, but not all have gifts of healing in your view, correct? How do you distinguish the two? Your logic is not biblical. The Bible never make a distinction between the gift of tongue and speaking or praying in tongues. My friend, speaking in tongues is a gift. Stop making a distinction without a difference.
@hayeschrist1 and please if you believe Romans 8:26 is about tongues, you are absolutely wrong. The verse literally says the groanings of the Spirit CANNOT be UTTERED. Every time you speak in tongues, you are literally uttering. Your experience contradicts the text but yet you are convinced that the text refer to your experience. This is really sad. May the Lord delivers you from this deception by His grace. Sincerely. Amen 🙏🏿
@hayeschrist1 you did not answer my question…I’m actually using YOUR logic with the others gifts mentioned in 1 Cor 12 to show you have silly your argumentation is. Paul never made any distinction between speaking in tongue and the gift of tongues. It baffles me how you are so sure of this, yet many don’t see what you see in the text. Claiming that you know that different people in different denominations speak in tongues that are most likely not real human languages as we clearly see in acts does not prove your argument. I could also tell you that I know many who do not speak in tongues. Experience is irrelevant. Only biblical truth matters and the Bible is clear: speaking in languages IS a gift given to some only (1 cor 12:30) according to God’s sovereign will (1 Cor 12:11).
@hayeschrist1 the groanings of the Spirit are not utterable. He is the one praying, not the believer.… This verse has no connection with tongue speaking, which involve uttering.
@hayeschrist1 the Spirit intercedes for ALL the saints, not some. The verse Romans 8:27 even refute the idea that this can include tongues, since not all do speak in tongues ( 1 Cor 12:30) Thanks for actually proving my point. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Romans 8 has any connection whatsoever to tongues speaking anywhere in the chapter. The Holy Spirit intercedes for both tongues speakers and those who don’t. A believer that is mute for instance may never speak in tongues their entire lives or someone that was not gifted to do so, but even then the Holy Spirit is perfectly praying for that Christian without them saying a word.
Tongues as in languages are the Acts version of Tongues. It was an outward sign, apparently different languages, and they didn’t need an interpreter in that passage. Very different from the “unknown tongue” or praying in the Spirit which Paul details in Romans and 1 Corinthians. Paul wasn’t saying don’t pray in the Spirit at all, but don’t do so in the congregation where others don’t have in interpreter because praying in the Spirit is only edifying to the individual because The Holy Spirit is praying for that person. And I also wanna point out that in the Acts version, everyone was aware of what they were saying vs the Romans and Corinthians have no idea what is being said themselves because it’s the Spirit communicating with God. I’ll drop the passages in the replies.
“And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.” Romans 8:26-27 NLT
“For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.” 1 Corinthians 14:2 NLT
In 1 Corinthians (KJV) says, “…no man understandeth…” If it’s an earthly language, then why would it be understood by no man? That’s also why Paul said in the same chapter to not only pray in the Spirit, but also pray with understanding. So pray in an unknown tongue and also in my own words/language. If it’s talking about earthly languages in this context of 1 Corinthians, then why would Paul say it’s edifying to that person and not the body? I’m an English speaker, so why would I be praying in Chinese while praying for myself? And Paul also didn’t say don’t pray in the unknown tongue, but not to do it in front of the assembly without the interpreter.
It simply is not true that tongues are intended for edification of others and not for the person praying. When Paul urged that praying in tongues be accompanied by interpretation, he was specifically speaking about corporate prayer. Otherwise, if one is doing individual devotional prayer, there’s nothing wrong with praying in tongues throughout. As Paul said, it’s one’s spirit that prays during such moments, and not one’s mind.
Praying in the spirit is praying, with its source being, our spirit. This first occurs as the result of a believer recieving the Holy Spirit( Acts ch.2,10,and ch.19). Afterwards, a believer can pray in the spirit(" tongues") anytime they want. The word " tongues" is pluralized in scripture simply because more than one believer is doing it at a time. Speaking in " tongues" has three operations: 1) The initial evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit and afterwards their private prayer language for self edification. 2) The gift of speaking in " tongues" that is to be accompanied by a believer with the gift of interpretation of " tongues" so that all present may be edified. 3) A sign to unbelievers. Acts ch.2 demonstrates all three operations. Lastly, speaking in "tongues" is speaking in one spiritual language the believer is enabled to do as the result of the Holy Spirit becoming one with their spirit when they recieve the Holy Spirit.
Praying inwardly..... other passages show God brings things to our minds. Look at Daniel Ezekiel word came to them or a vision in a dream. Praying in the spirit is the mind. I sing to him a lot in there if that makes sense ?
I’m sure that someone will look at this video and disagree, saying “you can’t put God in a box! He can do anything that He wants to do, and any way that He wants to do it!” This is a popular thing to say whenever someone wants to manipulate the scriptures. God has shown us in His Word how His gifts operate. When we see someone teaching things that are contrary to what’s written we ought to flee from this person.
God has absolutely set the "box" of scripture...so I ask why does Paul say that to bless in the Spirit is to give thanks well, but that no one understands....yet, praying or singing in the spirit is understandable....even though that would mean paul would be saying "i will pray in the Spirit in my understanding and with my understanding, I will sing in the Spirit in my understanding and with my understanding." Am I wrong to say that he is clarifying that to pray or sing in the Spirit is not understandable which is why we need to ALSO do it with our understanding? If I am wrong please explain it to me. I truly want to learn but this video is very inconsistent.
If tongue is another language, how does anything else you said makes any sense. You need someone who speaks the language to interpret it to someone who doesn’t.
Tongues=the gift of tongues are Glossa and Phone👉 "human languages"👈 To do anything in the Holy Spirit is to live out of everything we do in our lives in sync and in obedience to the ways of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 22:41-43,44👉Jesus said that king David wrote and spoke in the Spirit. Psalm 110:1 King David got Rhema to rule as king. Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. 2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Non of these verses means they were praying in tongues.
@@williamgunn9973 key word is wordless groans. Get it right. Sounds like tongues to me. I guess if you don't have the faith to believe then u probably won't ever receive it unfortunately. Hope you do tho. It's a game changer when it comes to prayer.
@@WiseLion777 So you're equating wordless groaning to tongues? Even though tongues is nowhere to be found in Romans 8? "Sounds like tongues" Those are clearly your own words not God's. Do not go beyond what is written.
@@williamgunn9973 the original commenter is wrong and so are you. "Glossa" means "tongue" or "language". No where can you find the definition saying "human" language. Not saying it can't be as human language. But that also means it can mean a heavenly language. The other word "phone" in greek means a voice orr sound of any kind. Hmmmmm what does that remind you of? Sure you are smart enough to figure it out. 😎
Illumination well done. The church at Corinth was spiritually immature Christians... Much like today, all that same emotional nonsense is a sign of spiritual immaturity
What happens when the interpreter calls out the church for their wrong behavior? Do you really think they will be greeted any more the next Sunday? Oooooweeeee
Everybody believes the Bible is saying what they thinks it said. Why can’t you read it for what it says, like you read any other book written in a language you understand? Something wrong with such an anything book.
PAUL DID SAID in 1Cor 14:18 " I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you." look it up! and please study more about tongues before you assert you also can search google or youtube YOU CANT SAY that ONLY your explain is all finally RIGHT!?!?!?!? I think you are baby christian that you became christian recently like within 5 years?
Why does Paul write "speak" if he means "pray"? That Greek word, laleo, has around 295 uses in the New Testament. Nowhere, in 295 passages, is laleo used to mean prayer. The Strong's Concordance number is G2980, if you want to look it up. It is special pleading to say that laleo means prayer in 1 Cor. 14:18, when in all other circumstances laleo means normal speaking. The gift of tongues is for preaching to unbelievers in foreign lands where an outsider could not communicate without that gift. However, in a church where everyone already spoke the same language, the gift would not be necessary for that purpose because they could all communicate with one another already. If someone in the group begins speaking a foreign language, it is indiscernible to the group, bringing only confusion. However, if a foreigner speaks in the language of that group, everyone is able to understand and benefit from what is said. This is the reason Paul said that tongues is for unbelievers, it is for preaching to people who could not otherwise understand the speaker. The gift of tongues is not for the personal edification of the speaker, but for sharing the Gospel.
@@timkim999 The definition of laleo does not include prayer. None of laleo's uses in scripture depict or describe prayer. Ergo, it's use in 1 Corinthians does not mean prayer, but refers to preaching and human to human communication. The same definition it has in every other verse that uses laleo. "I beleive that but u just believe in theory only nt in reality" - your words. This assumption about my beliefs is uncharitable and unwarranted. I was only ever polite in my response, offering up a question and a counterpoint to your comment. In return you have insulted me.
R U pharisee believer? U just try to interprete bible by letters only? u act like Pharisee or HUMANISTIC (Reckon his Reasoning better than HOLY SPIRIT-spiritually by faith ) HOW CAN U PRAY without speak ? so what is your point? I dont want discuss pointless argu with you and with MINOR parts.@@HeyYou992
Yeh, Pharisses scold Jesus that Jesus insulted them lookup in gospel, U just act like Pharises, U r faith is not in HS but in your own human REASOING try to interprete with your own tiny pinut's intelligence THAT WILL GO ASTRAY@@HeyYou992
It's def not new. Paganism infiltrated the church during the time of Paul and the Corinthians.... hence the rebuking of their use of spirituality without following guidelines to differentiate from the pagan. Some still slipped through the cracks as we see today. Mia taught Christians by people driven by Lust for power and to appear holy to declare their own doctrine and ambitions over the simplicity of scripture.
When brother Corey says new I think he’s just referring to the idea that the command to pray in the spirit refers to tongues. And by new he’s saying in the last 100 years so that wouldn’t contradict you being taught in the 80’s
It IS new. “The 80’s” were just forty years ago. The scriptures that Cory was quoting were written over TWO THOUSAND years ago. What are you people talking about?!
NO! This is your own interpretation of those passage and I am just confused how you just manipulating with your own knowledge to justify your assertion, I am certain that your interpretation here is 100% wrong what you saying about tongues (you just make it to happen mechanically-to show that you have intelligent REASONING), I will explain why below: MEN has spirit and soul(mind=own understanding) inside us and spirit and soul is DIFFERENT!. -if your mind speak to God -you speak with known tongues- Natural learned languages -what if My Spirit man or INNER man (who was born again(dead spirit became new with life of god) speaks to God what language will show up? = unknown tongues! ( not learned from mind!) = this is SPIRITUAL PRAYER LANGUAGE that gave us , so that we see or prove that we have SPIRIt MAN inside us! this is SUPERNATURAL language bypassing our own flesh brain! Our MIND is NOT equal to spirit! and God is not MIND! He is a SPIRIT!! And he is supernatural being! this 'speak in toungues is NOT natural language like something we learned from our natural MINd DO YOU Speak in tongues? , IF no then that is reason you dont understand this ! spiritual evidence, you only try to understand or inter prete by your own UNDERSTANDING= LIMITED KNOWLEDGE=LIMITED MIND=EVEN EVERY HEATHENS HAS And they also dont understand and dont believe GOD YOUR understanding has limited ability and doesnt understand spiritual things but your INNER MAN or SPIRIT MAN has unlimited ability with God the holy spirit! SPIRIT 2 SPIRIT= 1:1 Prayer language is given to whose dead spirit is born again believers! when your SPIRIT man speaks to God who is also a Spirit, YOU SPEAK WITH UNKNOWN TONGUES- Supernatural language-spiritual language! =prayer language = SPIRITAUL COMMUNICATION TOOL WITH GOD!!! (this is Miraculous ability to natural!!!) THere is purpose or Power in this Spiritual language that gave us! Jesus promised before he went heaven, " you will be enduered with POWER of holy spirit, If gifts are mere natural, then that cant be from heaven that cant be Power from on high -God, that will be powerless natural human power, and that is not what God promised in ACTS! God didnt promised mere natural powerless gifts, HE DID PROMISED ONLY POWERFUL-SUPERNATURAL-MIRACLE WORKING gifts of holy spirit and that is from WONDER- Working ALMIGHTY GOD!!! if it is not making WONDERS, SIGNS - that is mere natural that is not From God, just weak MAN made and that is Humanism
Praying in the Spirit is praying THE WORD OF GOD, is understanding the WORD, cause the WORD is SPIRIT SO Pray THE WORD.❤
Romans 8:26 Likewise, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.
I interpret praying “in the Spirit” as praying with a mind set on the things of the spirit as opposed to the flesh.
“For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.”
Romans 8:5-6 ESV
I believe that coincides with the passage brother Corey brought up about praying with your mind also:
“What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.”
1 Corinthians 14:15 ESV
Is the spirit the same as the mind . Since neither is a physical thing?
Yes SiRRRRRRRRRR!!!
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No the spirit and the mind are two different things
The mind is your cognitive ability to understand your environment.
The Spirit is the influence either from God to be as moral person, or from the devil to follow him,
God sets the standards for morality.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 , you expect me to believe that? Is god’s morality found in the Bible? By today’s standards of morality, is it moral to stone unruly children to death? Is it moral to own a human being and beat them half to death without punishment? Is it moral to invade a country and kill everyone except for virgin girl , that you get to keep for yourself, even killing animals because they worship differently than you do? What morality are you talking about? The Bible is immoral
Oohhhh brother this is real good. I'm really feeling this teaching because i always wanted to understand truly what speaking in tongues means. It is clear that many understood the disciples when they spoke in tongues because there were many different language speaking understanding all of them. This is nice 💪🙏🔥🙏🔥🙏🔥👀
It’s crazy about the debates on praying in the spirit and praying in tongue/tongues. People always go to examples of the disciples. But rarely have I heard anybody go to the greatest example of all and that’s Jesus Christ! The Bible never shows were Jesus Prayed in tongues and he was full of the Holy Spirit.
@hayeschrist1 Thanks! I’ll go check that out
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@hayeschrist1 which goes back to tongues and how the scripture presents them. As a sign and by the disciples as the person stated Jesus was full of the Spirit and not once does the Bible mention him speaking to His Father in a tongue (THIS WOULD BE VERY KEY because when asked how to pray he did not mention anything about tongues) Although not sealing him as now all believers He still was full of the Spirit and the Spirit was upon Him. Same Spirit but the function was for a sign. John 7:37-39 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified. In context it says "THE SPIRIT whom they were to receive. Man has now inserted their view that SPIRIT is synonymous with tongues. That's not what He was saying then or now. Both examples had to deal with being born again and the Holy Spirit. If we want to hear about flow again we can look at the woman at the well. “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water”. Again this is speaking in context to the HOLY SPIRIT himself filling or indwelling a believer. After she responded, he went on to say, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never thirst again; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life” (John 4:13-14).
@hayeschrist1
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
John 7:38-39 NKJV
There is no indication in this passage about prayer or anything to do with tongues. There was no indication even in the slightest of Jesus speaking in a "heavenly tongue or language" even those who say Angelic Tongues or Language, with the many many stories of angels in the bible not one spoke in a language that was not understandable to the human audience that was hearing it
Corey, this is an excellent explanation of speaking in tongues. Most in the church use this according to bad teaching or by their own experience. I have been teaching and explaining this same as you just did....thank you!
Appreciate you so much! To God be the glory! ❤
Glory to Jesus’ Holy name 🙏✝️👑❤️!
Thank you for the clarification.
Thank you ❤
May God bless you all❤❤❤❤
I would love for you to change my mind, but Paul says if you bless with the Spirit that no one understands. So why should we assume that "in the Spirit" ALWAYS is an understood language?
If praying in the spirit means we pray according to the scriptures in known Language we understand, then what would the difference be of praying with understanding? Why even make the contrast?
I would contend that praying with the Spirit means to do so with utterance, not just out of your natural understanding, but being led. This could be in tongues in the case of 1 cor 14 but not necessarily in the other cases like many in Acts.
1 Corinthians 14:15-17 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.
Not only that but Paul clearly says if you bless with the spirit you do give thanks well but the other is not edified. Because all of these are listed together, you could literally replace "bless with the Spirit" with "pray with the Spirit" and the end result is still that they are not understood. Earlier in the chapter we find out that the church not edified because they don't understand the tongues that are being spoken.
I honestly feel like your take is inconsistent. You say "Praying with the Spirit is simply praying in understanding according to scripture"....yet somehow you can bless with the Spirit and someone doesnt understand?? I doesn't line up!
Thoughts?
Edit: for the record, I have pulled back from tongues over the last few months while I weight these things out according to scripture. You have one of the best takes on this topic, but like I said, this whole idea that praying in the Praying in the Spirit is understandable (only 1 cor 14) doesn't make sense because he says blessing with the spirit is not understandable. Maybe I'm just too dumb? Lol 😂 but I promise I challenge this BECAUSE I am doing my best to be a good Berean. I am not just going to take your word for it when it doesn't line up. I know I repeat myself a bit, but it's because I just can't look over it.
God understands all languages so why not pray in English.
I have asked people who speak in tounges what they said, the answer was I don't know. That's not a gift.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 I could honestly say the same back. if the bible says we give thanks well in the Spirit (tongues), then why not pray in tongues since it would also be according to scripture.
If it means that we are praying out mysteries that we couldn't naturally know to pray, then why not pray in the Spirit? If praying in the tongues is from God wouldn't they be perfect prayers too? Wouldn't this be a benefit?
The bible says the fervent prayers of the righteous make power available. If the Spirit gives me utterance in tongues to pray, it must be for a reason.
Btw, I'm not of the assumption that you pray in tongues whenever you want. I beleive it should still be as the Spirit wills.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 ps - I'm still focused on the inconsistency though regarding blessing with the Spirit not being understood vs Corey's and I assume your view. Care to answer that, I'm honestly looking for answers.
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The Greek word meaning language is Glossolalia. The new testament scriptures are written in Greek.
The English translation is tounges.
Tounges are a language used by tribes, nations and cultures for communication.
Of I were to say,. Sh,'ma Yisrael Adonai Eliheinu Adonai Ehad,. you may say I spoke in tounges.
That was Yiddish which is Hebrew.
Biblical definition of tounges are always a know language because there are no references for angel talk.
If you don't know what you are saying and I don't know what you said there is no edification and Apostle Paul said you are to be silent.
Shalom is Hebrew for peace 🕎
Romans 8 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities; for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
the spirit gives ys the words the same way the pentecostals like to say " a word from God"
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Test the spirit, all words and thoughts are not from the Holy Spirit.
Satan copies everything God does except create.
@@chaplainsoffice6907 that goes without saying.
The part of the sentence that says "cannot be uttered" in greek is ἀλάλητος or Alateos, which means unspeakable or silent.
The Spirit of God intercedes for us. But it is never heard. This does not stand as an argument for those who use it for praying with glossolalia.
@@chaplainsoffice6907are you saying Satan copied sin from God?
For me, when I pray in the spirit, it simply means that my prayer is beyond words and sometimes my spirit knows things that I can't put into words.
Sometimes its God guiding and telling me what to do, sometimes its me making a choice and planning my own actions, and sometimes Im moved by the spirit even when I may not know where its moving me.
I had to learn to trust it and when to trust it
Thats also the trinity for me too. I do believe in the trinity but I do not believe that Genesis refers to the trinity when it says "Let us make man in our own image"
I believe someone just thought it sounded good
If praying in the Spirit is praying in an unknown language, what about those who are not given the ability to speak in languages (1 cor 12:30)? Does that mean that they cannot pray in the Spirit? Did God gave a command to all believers to pray in the Spirit (Ephesians 6:18) but only give some the ability to obey that command?Of course not! Praying in the Spirit Has nothing to do with the words that come out of one’s mouth, but rather HOW they are praying, in other words, praying according to the will of the Spirit Himself. A believer can perfectly pray in the Spirit in their native language.
@hayeschrist1 classic Pentecostal response to try go around the fact that God clearly teaches in His word that Speaking in tongues is GIFT, nothing else. Following your logic, we must also conclude that all believers work miracles right even tough not all have the gift of working miracle? If yes what’s the difference between a believer working a miracle without having the gift? Same with healing… all believers heal, but not all have gifts of healing in your view, correct? How do you distinguish the two? Your logic is not biblical. The Bible never make a distinction between the gift of tongue and speaking or praying in tongues. My friend, speaking in tongues is a gift. Stop making a distinction without a difference.
@hayeschrist1 and please if you believe Romans 8:26 is about tongues, you are absolutely wrong. The verse literally says the groanings of the Spirit CANNOT be UTTERED. Every time you speak in tongues, you are literally uttering. Your experience contradicts the text but yet you are convinced that the text refer to your experience. This is really sad. May the Lord delivers you from this deception by His grace. Sincerely. Amen 🙏🏿
@hayeschrist1 you did not answer my question…I’m actually using YOUR logic with the others gifts mentioned in 1 Cor 12 to show you have silly your argumentation is. Paul never made any distinction between speaking in tongue and the gift of tongues. It baffles me how you are so sure of this, yet many don’t see what you see in the text. Claiming that you know that different people in different denominations speak in tongues that are most likely not real human languages as we clearly see in acts does not prove your argument. I could also tell you that I know many who do not speak in tongues. Experience is irrelevant. Only biblical truth matters and the Bible is clear: speaking in languages IS a gift given to some only (1 cor 12:30) according to God’s sovereign will (1 Cor 12:11).
@hayeschrist1 the groanings of the Spirit are not utterable. He is the one praying, not the believer.… This verse has no connection with tongue speaking, which involve uttering.
@hayeschrist1 the Spirit intercedes for ALL the saints, not some. The verse Romans 8:27 even refute the idea that this can include tongues, since not all do speak in tongues ( 1 Cor 12:30) Thanks for actually proving my point. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Romans 8 has any connection whatsoever to tongues speaking anywhere in the chapter. The Holy Spirit intercedes for both tongues speakers and those who don’t. A believer that is mute for instance may never speak in tongues their entire lives or someone that was not gifted to do so, but even then the Holy Spirit is perfectly praying for that Christian without them saying a word.
Tongues as in languages are the Acts version of Tongues. It was an outward sign, apparently different languages, and they didn’t need an interpreter in that passage. Very different from the “unknown tongue” or praying in the Spirit which Paul details in Romans and 1 Corinthians. Paul wasn’t saying don’t pray in the Spirit at all, but don’t do so in the congregation where others don’t have in interpreter because praying in the Spirit is only edifying to the individual because The Holy Spirit is praying for that person. And I also wanna point out that in the Acts version, everyone was aware of what they were saying vs the Romans and Corinthians have no idea what is being said themselves because it’s the Spirit communicating with God. I’ll drop the passages in the replies.
“And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.”
Romans 8:26-27 NLT
“For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.”
1 Corinthians 14:2 NLT
In 1 Corinthians (KJV) says, “…no man understandeth…” If it’s an earthly language, then why would it be understood by no man? That’s also why Paul said in the same chapter to not only pray in the Spirit, but also pray with understanding. So pray in an unknown tongue and also in my own words/language. If it’s talking about earthly languages in this context of 1 Corinthians, then why would Paul say it’s edifying to that person and not the body? I’m an English speaker, so why would I be praying in Chinese while praying for myself? And Paul also didn’t say don’t pray in the unknown tongue, but not to do it in front of the assembly without the interpreter.
Which Bible are you using. I can hardly speak English. Is this site is only for people who have Caps at their name or everyone? PLEASE!
It simply is not true that tongues are intended for edification of others and not for the person praying. When Paul urged that praying in tongues be accompanied by interpretation, he was specifically speaking about corporate prayer. Otherwise, if one is doing individual devotional prayer, there’s nothing wrong with praying in tongues throughout. As Paul said, it’s one’s spirit that prays during such moments, and not one’s mind.
Praying in the spirit is praying, with its source being, our spirit. This first occurs as the result of a believer recieving the Holy Spirit( Acts ch.2,10,and ch.19).
Afterwards, a believer can pray in the spirit(" tongues") anytime they want.
The word " tongues" is pluralized in scripture simply because more than one believer is doing it at a time.
Speaking in " tongues" has three operations:
1) The initial evidence that a believer has recieved the Holy Spirit and afterwards their private prayer language for self edification.
2) The gift of speaking in " tongues"
that is to be accompanied by a believer with the gift of interpretation of " tongues" so that all present may be edified.
3) A sign to unbelievers. Acts ch.2 demonstrates all three operations.
Lastly, speaking in "tongues" is speaking in one spiritual language the believer is enabled to do as the result of the Holy Spirit becoming one with their spirit when they recieve the Holy Spirit.
Dr. C, keep kicking them facts and all of the lies and confusion out of the gospel. Amen🙏🏽
Praying inwardly..... other passages show God brings things to our minds. Look at Daniel Ezekiel word came to them or a vision in a dream. Praying in the spirit is the mind. I sing to him a lot in there if that makes sense ?
I’m sure that someone will look at this video and disagree, saying “you can’t put God in a box! He can do anything that He wants to do, and any way that He wants to do it!” This is a popular thing to say whenever someone wants to manipulate the scriptures. God has shown us in His Word how His gifts operate. When we see someone teaching things that are contrary to what’s written we ought to flee from this person.
God has absolutely set the "box" of scripture...so I ask why does Paul say that to bless in the Spirit is to give thanks well, but that no one understands....yet, praying or singing in the spirit is understandable....even though that would mean paul would be saying "i will pray in the Spirit in my understanding and with my understanding, I will sing in the Spirit in my understanding and with my understanding."
Am I wrong to say that he is clarifying that to pray or sing in the Spirit is not understandable which is why we need to ALSO do it with our understanding?
If I am wrong please explain it to me. I truly want to learn but this video is very inconsistent.
If tongue is another language, how does anything else you said makes any sense. You need someone who speaks the language to interpret it to someone who doesn’t.
Tongues=the gift of tongues are Glossa and Phone👉 "human languages"👈
To do anything in the Holy Spirit is to live out of everything we do in our lives in sync and in obedience to the ways of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 22:41-43,44👉Jesus said that king David wrote and spoke in the Spirit.
Psalm 110:1 King David got Rhema to rule as king.
Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Non of these verses means they were praying in tongues.
Romans 8:26
@@WiseLion777 fake tongues is not groaning
@@williamgunn9973 key word is wordless groans. Get it right. Sounds like tongues to me. I guess if you don't have the faith to believe then u probably won't ever receive it unfortunately. Hope you do tho. It's a game changer when it comes to prayer.
@@WiseLion777 So you're equating wordless groaning to tongues? Even though tongues is nowhere to be found in Romans 8? "Sounds like tongues" Those are clearly your own words not God's. Do not go beyond what is written.
@@williamgunn9973 the original commenter is wrong and so are you. "Glossa" means "tongue" or "language". No where can you find the definition saying "human" language. Not saying it can't be as human language. But that also means it can mean a heavenly language. The other word "phone" in greek means a voice orr sound of any kind. Hmmmmm what does that remind you of? Sure you are smart enough to figure it out. 😎
Illumination well done. The church at Corinth was spiritually immature Christians... Much like today, all that same emotional nonsense is a sign of spiritual immaturity
What happens when the interpreter calls out the church for their wrong behavior? Do you really think they will be greeted any more the next Sunday? Oooooweeeee
Your prayers can be silent.
God judges the heart and knows your thought and prayers.
1 Samuel 16:7
Jeremiah 17:10
Everybody believes the Bible is saying what they thinks it said. Why can’t you read it for what it says, like you read any other book written in a language you understand? Something wrong with such an anything book.
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PAUL DID SAID in 1Cor 14:18
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I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you."
look it up!
and please study more about tongues before you assert
you also can search google or youtube
YOU CANT SAY that ONLY your explain is all finally RIGHT!?!?!?!?
I think you are baby christian that you became christian recently like within 5 years?
Why does Paul write "speak" if he means "pray"?
That Greek word, laleo, has around 295 uses in the New Testament. Nowhere, in 295 passages, is laleo used to mean prayer. The Strong's Concordance number is G2980, if you want to look it up.
It is special pleading to say that laleo means prayer in 1 Cor. 14:18, when in all other circumstances laleo means normal speaking.
The gift of tongues is for preaching to unbelievers in foreign lands where an outsider could not communicate without that gift. However, in a church where everyone already spoke the same language, the gift would not be necessary for that purpose because they could all communicate with one another already.
If someone in the group begins speaking a foreign language, it is indiscernible to the group, bringing only confusion. However, if a foreigner speaks in the language of that group, everyone is able to understand and benefit from what is said.
This is the reason Paul said that tongues is for unbelievers, it is for preaching to people who could not otherwise understand the speaker. The gift of tongues is not for the personal edification of the speaker, but for sharing the Gospel.
@@timkim999 The definition of laleo does not include prayer. None of laleo's uses in scripture depict or describe prayer. Ergo, it's use in 1 Corinthians does not mean prayer, but refers to preaching and human to human communication. The same definition it has in every other verse that uses laleo.
"I beleive that but u just believe in theory only nt in reality" - your words.
This assumption about my beliefs is uncharitable and unwarranted. I was only ever polite in my response, offering up a question and a counterpoint to your comment. In return you have insulted me.
R U pharisee believer?
U just try to interprete bible by letters only?
u act like Pharisee or HUMANISTIC (Reckon his Reasoning better than HOLY SPIRIT-spiritually by faith )
HOW CAN U PRAY without speak ?
so what is your point?
I dont want discuss pointless argu with you and with MINOR parts.@@HeyYou992
Yeh, Pharisses scold Jesus that Jesus insulted them lookup in gospel, U just act like Pharises, U r faith is not in HS but in your own human REASOING try to interprete with your own tiny pinut's intelligence
THAT WILL GO ASTRAY@@HeyYou992
That is not new. I was taught about praying in tongues since 1984. This was taught to me in church in the 80’s. I am age dating myself
It's def not new. Paganism infiltrated the church during the time of Paul and the Corinthians.... hence the rebuking of their use of spirituality without following guidelines to differentiate from the pagan. Some still slipped through the cracks as we see today. Mia taught Christians by people driven by Lust for power and to appear holy to declare their own doctrine and ambitions over the simplicity of scripture.
When brother Corey says new I think he’s just referring to the idea that the command to pray in the spirit refers to tongues. And by new he’s saying in the last 100 years so that wouldn’t contradict you being taught in the 80’s
It IS new. “The 80’s” were just forty years ago. The scriptures that Cory was quoting were written over TWO THOUSAND years ago. What are you people talking about?!
NO! This is your own interpretation of those passage and I am just confused how you just manipulating with your own knowledge to justify your assertion, I am certain that your interpretation here is 100% wrong what you saying about tongues (you just make it to happen mechanically-to show that you have intelligent REASONING), I will explain why below:
MEN has spirit and soul(mind=own understanding) inside us and spirit and soul is DIFFERENT!.
-if your mind speak to God -you speak with known tongues- Natural learned languages
-what if My Spirit man or INNER man (who was born again(dead spirit became new with life of god)
speaks to God what language will show up?
= unknown tongues! ( not learned from mind!)
= this is SPIRITUAL PRAYER LANGUAGE that gave us ,
so that we see or prove that we have SPIRIt MAN inside us!
this is SUPERNATURAL language bypassing our own flesh brain!
Our MIND is NOT equal to spirit!
and God is not MIND! He is a SPIRIT!!
And he is supernatural being!
this 'speak in toungues is NOT natural language like something we learned from our natural MINd
DO YOU Speak in tongues? , IF no then that is reason you dont understand this !
spiritual evidence, you only try to understand or inter prete by your own
UNDERSTANDING= LIMITED KNOWLEDGE=LIMITED MIND=EVEN EVERY HEATHENS HAS
And they also dont understand and dont believe GOD
YOUR understanding has limited ability and doesnt understand spiritual things
but your INNER MAN or SPIRIT MAN has unlimited ability with God the holy spirit!
SPIRIT 2 SPIRIT= 1:1 Prayer language is given to whose dead spirit is born again believers!
when your SPIRIT man speaks to God who is also a Spirit,
YOU SPEAK WITH UNKNOWN TONGUES- Supernatural language-spiritual language!
=prayer language = SPIRITAUL COMMUNICATION TOOL WITH GOD!!!
(this is Miraculous ability to natural!!!)
THere is purpose or Power in this Spiritual language that gave us!
Jesus promised before he went heaven, " you will be enduered with POWER of holy spirit,
If gifts are mere natural, then that cant be from heaven
that cant be Power from on high -God,
that will be powerless natural human power,
and that is not what God promised in ACTS!
God didnt promised mere natural powerless gifts,
HE DID PROMISED ONLY POWERFUL-SUPERNATURAL-MIRACLE WORKING gifts of holy spirit and
that is from WONDER- Working ALMIGHTY GOD!!!
if it is not making WONDERS, SIGNS - that is mere natural
that is not From God, just weak MAN made
and that is Humanism