What role can US long-range ATACMS play in Ukraine's military campaign? | DW News
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- US officials have confirmed that Ukraine has begun using long-range missiles secretly shipped in recent weeks. They say the missiles were used for the first time in a strike on a Russian airfield in Crimea last week. The "Army Tactical Missile Systems" - or ATACMS - were part of a 300 million-dollar assistance package approved by the United States in March. The US supplied mid-range versions of the system last September. This latest batch can strike targets up to 300 kilometers away. What targets do these long-range ATACMS missiles bring within the range of the Ukrainian military?
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5:32 LOL Someone at DW needs to upgrade their Zoom licence
Regards, an amused IT engineer 🤣
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I tried to click it thinking it was on my screen 😅
Ain't nobody got money for that. Just use the free license.
😂😂😂😂. Maybe DW ran out of cash 😂😂😂 or 🇺🇸 congress holding up again DW. 😂😂😂😂
Nowadays it is all about Practicality.
Lol that's such a flex. The weapons are already there 😂😂
So Scholz can follow with Taurus.
He doesnt have the balls
Nope, you need actual balls to operate these missiles and he's lacking in that department
These use of these missiles will only make Ukraine suffer more when Russia escalates. Anybody wanna bet?
he prefers sending BMWs to China😂
Exactly
The US weapons were already in Europe all the time. Just waiting for the go ahead.
Poland has US ammo factories.
Do you think Ukraine are able to drop the Kerch bridge? Multiple strikes at different parts to destroy the bridge?? What you saying
@@Alcatraz-UK They already dropped half of it at one point and the railroad. It's not impossible.
which may explain why 300% of tactical necessity... (cheaper to store them in Europe, than po-dunk Texas)
so Europe became a battle company for USA , they feed you their food you drive their cars you fight for their wars ! so you not Europe anymore you are under American occupation
Germany, where is Taurus?
Greetings from Berlin. No idea, but it stinks of excuses and cowardliness from the direction of Scholz' office.
its a "wünderwaffen" it does not really exists
@@steveolotu52no surprise, you are an occupied country, the bombing of Nord stream 2 and no response, was shameful
@@fanamlawuli6761 I know, Germany being occupied by Germans is just crazy, WW2 never ended! For God's sake, take off the tinfoil hat. The pipeline is obviously something beyond your comprehension. For now, lets just assume the agents of the enemy have managed to convince you that Germany is occupied by 'other' enemies. The pipeline has a certain logic to it that seems to evade you as well.
@@fanamlawuli6761 Couldn't respond - the nation that did it has them by the b*lls.
If Schultz could ship those Taurus missiles already, whats the hold up.... he will be remembered through history as a coward who couldnt stand up to the bullies.
I'm hopeful that since they put a requirement for sending Ukraine ATACMS in the U.S. aid bill that passed this week that it will prompt Schultz to cough up the Taurus missiles as well
The need might not be as much with the ATACMS on the way, but we really do need to flood Ukraine with everything so that they can push forward with force and not have to worry about how much ammo they are using
You don't win a war by rationing bullets
To be honest, he is still so blant, i don´t think he will be remembered at all.
We will remember them who helped a lot under the table, without making a big fuss about it and being too late all the time the USA.
There are many...we had mike Johnson hold it up for 6 months Churchill or chamberlain moment was used.
The cat is already out of the bag.
We know the Taurus system requires German involvement and Olaf Scholz doesn't want to risk Russia returning fire to Germany directly.
'Smiler' Schultz should stop smiling and start 'shipping' -- Taurus.
"Crimean bridge is falling down, falling down.
Crimean bridge is falling down, oh dear Putin".
Another song from Festung Ukraine undergoing it's Endsieg? Putting that aside, bridge isn't even that crucial anymore, since land bridge was already rebuilt.
@@ReichLife The land bridge is infinitely easier to target with lesser range missiles, and rockets, even drones.
@@ReichLife Incredible how Russia wants to replay WW2 and cast the Ukrainians as Germans.
@@ReichLife but part of Ukraine's strategy is to goad Putin into an over-reaction...and permanently taking down "his" bridge might just do that
@@stillkickinbandgeorgianbay900 nice analasys from the couch, buddy
That popup from Zoom was hardly noticeable.
Not forgeting
Himars
M777
At display at Moscow 😁😁🤭🤭😱😱
Also,
GLSDBs
Switchblade drones
Atacms
Leopard 2s
Abrams
Challenger 2s
Bradleys
Krab howitzers
AMX-10s
@@PeterLamin-pi6rvwhy is your CZcams account made 2 days ago?
@@alhambrabiker1476 because of CZcams zensorship 🎯🤫💯💯🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
@@PeterLamin-pi6rvso you did something wrong 🤔
Vote for HIMARS for president! This thing gets the job done!
LOL…that bridge is as good as gone now. And yes commentary…it’s a crucial supply line.
No its not a crucial supply line, Russia has the land bridge and a new rail connection
The bridge is likely to suffer from a huge surface/subsurface marine vector during a combined assets assault.
Exactly right
@@TonyM540 8th of May to have what to celebrate on 9th.
May the 4th be with them @@emanuelb3456
huge bridges
falling down and
battles Win.
@@ruparkyitin😂😂😂😂😂😂loloool
My radar is detecting rusbots....
You mean you brought another game changer let see😁😁😁😁
Gaycrane is losing rather we say it or not buddy
@@13ased_Americanruzzia lost after the second week in February 22
@@jooseppib1082 ah yes, nothing says "ruskies lost" like needing to reassure everyone in america and europe that the war effort is valid lmao
putbot
America is stepping up its robust and large military industry. America a manufacturing powerhouse.🇺🇸👍
America is not a manufacturing powerhouse.
bo bo bo
Resources cannot be printed like T bills😂😂😂
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv Don't worry, Canada will help)
@@master_razmut dictator Tradue is not in the mood 🤡🎯😁😁😁
The Rusbots are super active these past days. Whats the matter ❤❤❤😂
So pretty much anyone who doesn´t agree with the bs you spout, huh?
The irony of Ukronazi bots complaining about other bots.
They are trying to keep a job while they can still get paid. Today is rubles, but soon it may be cabbage.
The roof is on fire ☝️
@@quinnard9750 he desperately seek any sign of 'peremoha' otherwise he'll become very sad clown.
I see these things in action I was in artillery in the US Army. The range is awesome. But the actual effect is awesome as well. We used to say these things reset grid squares literally. Just so much explosive power.
Glad you guys are on our side. Money well spent by the way.
DW not subscribed to Zoom pro and using the free version was a surprise.
It's about time. Even if they were "already there", they should have been available a year ago.
Should have been sent 2 years ago and in larger numbers.
As a former 13P it’s awesome seeing the HIMARS/MLRS weapon systems getting so much attention. By far the coolest thing I’ve ever used. Side note ATACMS are not missiles they are artillery
"Long range" and Army "Tactical" Missile, are two completely different things, is like calling tank to a car.
Does anyone know if the unitary warhead on the longer range version is powerful enough to do significant damage to the bridge? My understanding is that with longer range, more fuel is needed and the warhead gets smaller. From memory it took quiet a few GMLRS rockets before the Antonivka Bridge was made inoperable.
The Antonivka bridge was built like a brick shithouse. kerch bridge is dainty...
Excellent. Never surrender to Russia!
You should go to front and save ukrainian men who don't want go to front
@@Micha-tl2ziyes comrade botski
@@Nuklear_Godzilla whyre you so angry hes showing support? angy lil guy arent ya🤡
It's only the matter of time, Ukraine will surrender.
@@Nuklear_Godzilla
Will the Germans deploy the Taurus now as well to help take out that bridge?
No, they've already said this won't change their stance on sending Taurus missiles.
@@PhilipZeplinDKthey have also questioned the point of destroying this bridge as Russia has already completed new railways through South Ukraine.
Stop talking about what is included in these military packages!!!!
but why? Shouldn't we the public know? I mean thats what differentiates us from authoritarian or totalitarian regimes like those in Russia, China, NK etc. The public has the right to a lot of information.
@@themc.kennyshow6585why should military secrets involving billions of dollars worth of equipment be exposed so boring people from the suburbs can be entertained. This is a war it's not a video game it's not about playing
If you’re hearing about it it’s because Russia already knows
@@Sloppygator9309 that's the whole point they shouldn't know. And it looks like someone's removing comments, getting sick to death of this censorship
@@James-kv6kbUkraine command is crawling with Russian spies.
They can always run a CONTAINER SHIP into the bridge, apparently that works...
It absolutely would
What targets? You saw how easily that Russian air force base was wiped out in Crimea.
Wiped out when ? In your dreams ? No evidence nothing
Storm Shadow is also powerful.
yes, but not heavy enough
the russians have a turkey shoot with that missile.. its like clubbing a baby seal for the russians... it will be the same for the taurus and ATACMS
@@leonardoorellano6652 Really? Evidence?
@@daydays12 just google something like this "storm shadow shoot down by pantsir system" or this one..russian electronic warfare spoofs the GPS signal of himars" its on the public domain and its also documented in the mainstream media
@@leonardoorellano6652 Tell this to Crimea general who was killed by storm shadow missiles.
the guest is quite wrong about the usage of the bridge for military logistics. A railway line has since a couple of month ago been created from russia proper to crimea. There is also ferry connection and obviously transport planes. The bridges that are truly vital is the 7 bridges across dnipr river. If russia decides to blow them up then there is no way to move war material from western part to east of the river.
Russia doesn't occupy territory west of the Dnipro.
The range includes all adversarial logistic areas and command posts etc within the region which was once Ukraine. Probably this would be packaged with a " strategic umbrella" too.
Just ask yourselves, what has the world done to stop this war?
Please, look at the map. That bridge WAS important before Russia took Mariupol and Melitopol 😅
Besides, Ukraine used that weapon before. Those missiles aren't accurate enough to hit the bridge. 😅
Atacms?
@@bekeneelYes, they had about twenty last year. the first supply of the latest aid was destroyed in a port of Odessa yesterday 😅
@@Infopirates I remember the russian claims of them destroying all the Himars trucks & missiles 😂 And a building with 165 NATO generals. Funny stuff.
@@bekeneel you confused Russians and Ukrainians. Russians don't dance on corpses of fallen Russian and Ukrainian soldiers and officers. Did you really believe Ukraine didn't lose Western machines? 😅
Lol the popup
me: "FFS, why is my Zoom switched to Deutsch??"
also me: "Oh..."
Hey, we don't know anything about this missile thing, let's talk about the Kerch bridge.
Not so secret, is it, now?
This is a game changer
More death than a game changer… Remember it’s a weapons race
It could be, for sure. BUT then there has to be a lot of them given, or like a steady supply, not just a dozen like before.
I think they hit bridge at rainy weather or rainy and stormy
Beautiful!
Leopard
Challenger
Abrams
storm shadows
Cluster munitions
Ceasars
Bradley's
Marder
Then now atcams will have the same effect as the above-mentioned weapons
Russia only managed to conquer 10,5% of land in 750+ days. Id say its working lmao
@@IrrationalCharmRussia lost its capital in 1812 but captured Berlin and Paris in 1814. All Europe kneeled Great Russia
@@IgorSmirnoff-qr3xd in the same time. after 2 years of full scale war. the mighty russia. the ALL so powerful russia
managed to capture 10% of ukrainian land.
damn rusbots expectations have become LOW
I´d say it worked properly. In the last 10 month, despite RU having 80% more fire power they managed to conquer 20Km2 terrain with massive losses .
Effective weapons as you say.
Braise yourself, Rusbots trolls are incoming
Russia should be disconnected completely from the internet
azov battalion is back , keyboard warriors 😂😂
@@barack249 spotted one
@@robertyoung2661 It wouldnt help much
@@barack249
OK ruskie genius.....
Ill just point it out, but big cargo vessels can take out a bridge... ramming speed?
Imagine if war fought between all politicians? There would be no war at all!
They been hyping this weapon up for year and destroying that bridge is overrated now lol
PR at best
@@John_shepardThe majority of military traffic goes over that bridge as the railway is within artilery reach of Ukraine.
Russian bot spotted 😂
@@randomeastasian347 Ukrainian bot spotted 😂
@@cordellmohawk8408 I’m not the one making hundreds of comments saying “Ukraine lose” 😂 cry more
If there is no bridge, you cut off one of two train railway to supply the russian army in Crimea. The other railway is all the way along Ukraine shore. So it would not be a little military accomplishment.
The second rail line comes under direct artillery range, hence why the importance on the Crimea supply route.
@@user-nq4dg4ot7n there's no artillery that can fire on anywhere in Donetsk without getting hit by counter battery fire. Don't you know the importance of Avdiivka? It's the highest elevation point in the entire eastern part of Ukraine, and UA forces used to to shell Donetsk city for years.
@@wolfswinkel8906 no the didn't
Russia has downgraded the use of the bridge. They use in land routes now.
Trains and railroads can be attacked more easily when they're much closer. It's pretty easy to see why that would be advantageous.
While the ATACMs can punch holes in the two bridges road and rail, it is extremely unlikely that only a few ATACMs could actually collapse the Kerch Bridge. The two main reasons are the sheer size and strength of the key compression arches supporting the main span, and the level of precision required to hit the most critical point is greater than the ATACMs offer. The ATACMs are GPS/INS guided. What's needed to hit within a ~1 meter radius is a terminal guidance (commonly infra red or radar) system which the ATACMs do not have. So, the question than is if it's worth expending many ATACMs on the road bridge, plus many ATACs on the rail bridge, or pursue many more targets with that collection of missiles
They've had them for awhile, These ones just have more range.
Viewers should look up Assault Breaker System to learn what ATACMS was designed to do. I was working with Ft. Sill (US Army Field Artillery School) during the Cold War when it was still in the conceptual phase. The intended target set was the Soviet commanders plan. The ATACMS system, not just the missile, is a theater level capability intended to have strategic impact by disrupting the timing and execution of Soviet (now Russian) maneuver plans. It wasn't primarily intended for precision strikes on fixed point targets (which were to be assigned to USAF after achieving air supercity). Of course some of the payloads can be pressed into service for that target set. A better use would be attacking large formation of Russian vehicles or logistics hubs at critical times in an operation. The Pentagon has targeting cells that utilize near real time modeling to decide what, where, and most significantly, when to employ the system. I suspect the Ukrainians can tap into that resource if needed. The concept of synchronizing an ATACMS strike with a cruise missile (e.g. Storm Shadow) strike has merit, more so if air assets can be synchronized to maximize impact to Russian maneuver plans.
Russia didn't win in Afghanistan which was a smaller and less sophisticated and well armed adversary. It takes overwhelming strength to occupy and subdue a country and Russia simply does not have an overwhelming advantage.
For that matter, the US and its allies did not win in Afghanistan either. In fact, who is in charge now in Kabul? Should I conclude that US and allied aid is therefore not decisive for Ukraine?
@@trumpforever6706 USA failed to establish democracy in Afghanistan for that reason that this social form is unfit for its people.
I see a massive drone strike with the storm shadow to use up the defenses followed by a atacms volley to destroy the bridge
as if russia cannot detect all that in advance ? they alredy know abut atacms and would have prepared for it to be used .by the way how come no drones have been recently used ?
One should also notice the following. "ATACMS is a long-range, guided missile that gives commanders the immediate firepower to shape the battlespace. Each ATACMS missile is packaged in a look-alike MLRS launch pod and fired from the MLRS family of launchers". All existing MLRS launchers can deploy this weapon. This is huge.
😂
Yeah, I remember last year. The Himars, Leopards, and Bradley were all game-changers, and the great offensive was going to be a huge success, according to the Comedian in cargo pants. In 5 months, the comedian will be begging for more billions.
You described this war in a few lines. 🙃
When will the special military operation be a success ? At the moment the end is not even in sight
@@gregorysurovoi3968 when will the super duper Ukrainian counteroffensive reach the first line of Russian defense and split all three to Tokmak? Hmmm?
🤡
Really? Ask Borris Johnson.
How much further to the border of Donbas? Maybe Russia will get there by 2150
Looks like Orc meat is back on the menu boys!
XD
May the sunflower fields grow tall from abundant nutrients.
They should have had those over a year ago. This took way too long!
The downside of the ATACMs is that you can only fit one missile into the launcher at one time. Other missiles have a shorter range, though.
The problem is Ukraine mobilization. These missiles are just this months distraction.
However, British intelligence received information that the Russians had added two more targets in Britain for their missiles.
Kremlin bot speaks......
@@gregorysurovoi3968 lol, Russian bots are now writing in The Mirror.
And? Britain has targets ready in russia for the retaliation. Russia trying to bully countries out of backing Ukraine will never work. Especially when Russia is a regional power with nukes
I doubt they will use the US ATACMS or UK Storm Shadow - The war Heads are too small to bring it down unless there are multiple hits - Ukraine will want to use their own Technology to take full ownership of such a prestigious target - perhaps something like a sea drone or air drone with a 3-5 ton warhead
Do u have any comprehension about weights? 3 to 5-tone flying object?
For the purpose of taking down the bridge, the only missile that could be useful would be the Taurus. That said, I agree that the sea drones can pack a much bigger punch than any air weapon, they are a must if you want to bring the bridge down. The Atacms and Storm Shadow would help such attack by hitting ground based air defense targets as well as ships, all at the same time.
300x10 ATACMs is 3 ton, they got around 100 of them. 😂
@ ATACMS has a larger warhead than Taurus. The bunker buster version (M48) has a smaller warhead but this at Mach 4+ vs the subsonic Taurus so that's over 16 times more kinetic energy per unit weight, which in theory is penetration power into concrete bridge supports for instance. If 1 or 2 missiles could cause effective damage, then say 50 could be used next for a more complete job (same cost as an F-16).
@@delos2279 I googled a bit and found that the atacms version that can do 300km has a warhead of 472lbs while the Taurus has a 1060lbs warhead. But the speed difference is there. But I'd say that I heard from many war commentators that the atacms is not really the right tool to bring down a bridge. It can disrupt the driving lanes for quite some time, but it will not bring the supporting structure down. That said, I'm just a guy listening to commentators, I have no real knowledge in the field.
Smart. playing. Well. done
Mike Martin had his Mike Wazowski moment.
Despite whats going on in this war the Russians keep making gains
What's taking sooooooooooo long?? Have you looked at a calendar lately???
Small gains, at a very costly price. £And temporary..
US missiles operated by US army in Ukraine
Sources?
That sounds like something a desperate putin troll would literally make up.
proofs?
Love Mike Martin and value his expertise highly!! 👍😊 It’s nice of him to inform us and get us above the basic amateur level. Very valuable to me! 👍😊
Mike Martin are you posting from your sock account again?
My plants do not hurt you, but 1% of the animals may be wild.
DW you should report on ukrainian advances towards poland
Wtf? 😂
Are you referring to the trucks that are going there to pick up all those American munitions and weapons?
It’s disturbing that media outlets continue to push a narrative rather than a peace agreement !!
Try talking to Putin..
Peace on russian terms = capitulation
The media is not responsible for creating peace agreements... Make sure if your wife is ever assaulted to let the assailant take your house too. You wouldn't want to escalate
Peace takes two sides...and i seriously doubt Putin reads the NYT
Bravo 👍🏼
Then the Question remains will the bridges all over the Ukraine remain. Is the Expert from the king college forgetting about the Iskanders Missiles
I guess the Americans shouldn't complain once those Iranian missiles start being used
lots of "no injures" with follow up car/hely accidents are on it way.
How did those previous systems fare? I feel like the branding of American weapons always uses far too much fart.
Some people are truly dense, these are still second hand weapons, not a single first tier weapon is delivered to Ukraine. With less then 3% budget second tier weapons, Ruzzia lost 83% personal, 65% armoured vehicles.
The US should have given Ukraine the longest range Atacms. They have a range of 320km.
There about 20 Shipped there waiting. Russia knows it.
what role can long range atacms play ? a longer range one .. this is painful
Game changer again it's so sad people really think this will suddenly change the outcome
So what hardware should we send in addition?
@@stevenobrien557 people who support Ukraine
@@icemanzw boots on the ground? I agree.
@@stevenobrien557 you go then
@@icemanzwyour mom also
These are the exact same rockets AFU has had for a year, just longer range. Most will be shot down, some will hit. RU will fire twice as many Tornado-S (200 km range) back. Same as its always been.
russia has more to lose....soo...
@@ash-pr7zjHow does Russia have more to lose, Ukraine is the one losing territory
You mean the exact same missiles the Russian ambassador to the US was crying about?
@@ash-pr7zj
Russia will never lose.
They are backed by China and having open trade with rest of the world without any resistance.
They neither lacks energy source nor food supply.
Lol Russia has shot down a single Himars missile. They can't
What I would think would be fun if they got the Vizzini character from Princess Bride on here to debate what move Ukraine will make next. Granted Wallace Shawn is getting pretty old at this point, but I think it could still be a lot of fun to watch while Ukraine plots its path to victory in the background.
And the missile missed the targets...the report says ukraine.but no information on what is the result
another game changer!
@ComaWhite-777 which didnt even happen btw.
@ComaWhite-777 Video can show you anything it doesn´t matter what they hit as long as they can lie about it. There´s a reason nafo bots like you are seen as winning on the keyboard and not the battlefield.
Another game changer 😂😂😂
Just like Russias army. Paper tiger.
@@IrrationalCharm Ukraine and the west are winning in your imagination 😂😂😂
@ComaWhite-777 Russia is currently controlling about 20 percent of western supplied Ukraine. And Ukraine will never recover these territories so what are you writing 😂😂😂
@@DrojanaleTorvic Russia is such a failure that Rusbots consider it a success to conquer 10.5% of Ukrainian land after over 750+ days of full scale war.
damn rusbots standards are low lmao
Mike Martin is hopeless where is Marina ?
Okay, i think you can afford to pay for Zoom.
Basically slow down Logistics. That is about it..
Logistics is very very important in war.
Soldiers win battles, logistics wins wars
I think we can stop calling the army Ukrainian army and just call it NATO army now don't need to lie anymore hhhhhuuuuuhhhaaa
What is your logic for this statement ?
@@gregorysurovoi3968 Hardly any Ukrainian soldier's left so why not
@@bonnie7898 I love the drama
Zoom meeting in 40 mins don't forget.
Germany's contribution has been invaluable and we in the UK are glad that we are not alone in helping defend Ukraine - but Germany's fear of annoying the russians by sending top quality weapons is confusing. Why is it constantly Germany who is trying to stop, and refusing to ship the best weapons?
Russia will respond accordingly.
Where are your Putin’s consequences to anyone who is helping Ukraine? I thought he was not “bluffing”.
Are you talking about Russian accordion (баян)?
With what? Russia is using all it has. More tanks from the 50s?
@@MrDanisve Russia is only fighting with shovels as i bean told from west MSM!
.. by once again drawing another "red line". We are so much scared of that.
Wonder if Kiev mayor Vitaly Kiltschko sons of military age, will volunteer, stop partying in Germany and recently obtained German citizenship!
Is Mr. Putin 's pay is any good for doing trolling? How much do you make? How many identities do you have?
I wonder if you could pass as a human beeing, if you tried really hard to sound like one.
Sad that this guy has turned into a subjective propogandist. Military supplies go by the new railway now not the bridge.
"Game changer" list...Javelin, Leopards Tanks then Himars, Figher Jets... on and on and on...ZERO CHANGES on the battle Ground!! Ukraine is still loosing the war.
what Ukraine needs is to start serious peacenegotiations
The negotiations are simple: Putin gets his forces out of Ukraine.
Ahh yes, the most awaited 1000th Game changer weapons in Ukraine 🙃
Do you understand how huge this aid package is?
@@emil3458 Ukraine now has 60b worth of Old US junks, with no new conscripts, 🤣 who will use those weapons? The ghost of kyiv? Lol!
@@emil3458He does, which is why he tries to downplay it to sway public opinion. Don't argue with Kremlin troll. Report them for misinformation, then move on
They will play the role of quickening the demise of those that use it
Secretly you say?
* Before, like those that struck Dzhankoi in Crimea. I didn't know they had them either since US aid was stopped.
There are clearly four supply routes to Crimea which in importance order are probably... The Bridge, Rail, Sea and by Air... and if the bridge is knocked out they'll simply ramp up the remaining three while the bridge is being rebuilt.
Personally, I think all the $61Bn will accomplish is extend the war resulting in more Russian and Ukrainian deaths and more towns and cities pulverised. It wouldn't been much better if Ukraine hadn't listened to NATO's cooing words and have remained neutral, surely as with Georgia making the same mistake years earlier... they knew Putin wasn't going to stand and watch as NATO built bases on the Russia-Ukraine border, less than three hundred miles from the centre of Moscow with only the flat lands between them?
i guess just alot of bleeding
I would like to point out that now NATO is 45 kilometers from the Russian naval base at Zapadnaya Litsa and relatively close to the nuclear and other military facilities on the kola peninsula as well. Largely due to ramifications from the war in Ukraine.
Ah yes. Invading countries because they ally with neighbours I dont like.
I guess Putins plan to avoid NATO basis at Russias borders completly failed since now Finland and Sweden joined NATO lmao.
Funniest thing is, he hardly responded. Clearly it didnt bother him THAT much after all xD
Not even close. Rail can carry an order of magnitude (possibly two) more cargo than a truck. Right now, Russia has a shortage of trucks. Near the front line at least, Russia has been using van and box trucks.
The Kerch Strait bridge has two components, a rail line and a roadway. Of the two, the rail line is more critical. If that is cut off, the northern rail line would be used. However, that rail line is within range of artillery, not just missiles.
Russia has been trying to use the sea route, but they keep losing ships.
And there is no way Russia can compensate with air deliveries. Not only does Russia lack the transports, the runways in Crimea are vulnerable.
sure Crimea can be supplied by sea and air, but that would mean committing more resources to supplying Crimea. I don't know how much supplies a train can carry and how much Russia's plane can either but generally trains can easily deliver more supplies than any plane could, so way more transports and maybe potential escorts would have to committed to resupplying Crimea via air. As for the sea Ukraine has demonstrated it can hit naval targets in the general vicinity so you would probably need some small escorts to defend from these kind of attacks. As for the neutrality part ukraine wanted to join nato after russia showed it would take whatever it wanted by force, I think russia would invade ukraine no matter what happened
😂😂what happened to stormshadow
No effect on Russian. 😂
As Colonel Pavel Alexandrovich Kropotov or Lieutenant General Alexander Tatarenko or Major General Sergey Vladimirovich Goryachev.
It is on the good use, those weapons are made for this.
It makes no sense if they do that russia is gonna hit them harder and ukraine needs to negotiate
"Hit them harder" with what?
What does it done to russian. Ukraine out of soldiers. Put zelensky at the frontline
Bridges can repair quickly anytime and besides russia already build train tracks from ukraine occupied land to connecting crimea to russian land
LoL, you should have stayed in middle school, Boris.
If anything can't be repaired easily than it is bridges.
Those trains are now in range of ATACMs, so Cri Me A river. 🤣
@@13BulliTs you're so daft 😂
If Orcraine couldn't hit any trains on the Crimea bridge, how are they gonna hit them in Donetsk? Trains are a moving target, best you can hit is the rails which can be repaired easily. LMAO😂
ukrain will not destroy the bridge if it wants aid keep coming
@@13BulliTs what is in range of the ATACMS? a moving train or the rail tracks ? you seem to be an erudite in civil engineering.. say is fixing rail road tracks also a herculean task ?
Another game changer. I wait to see the final results
Are you going to pretend it doesn't change the game when Russia has to once again move back supply depots, command and control, troop concentrations, and airfields?
Are you going to pretend being able to hit all of Crimea doesn't change the game?
"SECRETLY"