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Traeger vs Broil King!! Timberline 850 Vs Regal 500!! Pellet Grill Brisket Smoke Off!!
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Hello and welcome to another video!
This is a video I’ve been so excited about. The feedback from my first video was amazing and this is a question that always comes up Broil king or Traeger. Hopefully today we are going to settle this debate once and for all!
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Time stamp Chapters
00:00 - Into
03:06 - Seasoning
04:40 - Pellets
05:59 - Firing The Grills Up
07:17 - The Cook Begins
13:09 - Wrapping The Briskets
14:45 - Getting Briskets In The Cooler
17:45 - Slicing Briskets
22:46 - Summary And Who Wins
If you're going with a pellet, I'd recommend cooking your briskets at 107 celsius (225f) and add an additional rack to remove the meat from the heating element a little more. don't spray too often or the the evaporation process will take longer. Should take anywhere from 10-14 hours. let it rest in your oven overnight at the lowest setting. I promise that if you do all that, you won't need all of the probes. You really should only probe the thickest part of the flat. Probing the point is a fool's errand since there is so much fat that cooks unevenly. since the heat is coming directly from the bottom, the bark will take longer to form on the top. that's why a longer cook at a lower temp will really help.
Thanks for the video. I've had my Traeger now for over 13 years and still going strong. I just bought a Broil King pellet grill last fall. Both amazing smokers. I will not go back to propane. Briskets by far my favourite meat to smoke. Keep up the good work..Cheers from Ottawa, Canada
Gas has its place for quick burgers and simple grilling but not for smoking.
Thank you for watching
How has the broil king held up in last 2 years. I have seen some people online complaining about surface rust .
No surface rust on my Broil King at all and its been over 2 years now. I cover the grill during our Canadian winters. So far so good@@cameronstefiuk299
That was a great review and tutorial. I’m in the market for a smoker and have had a broil king signet 70 for 10 years (fantastic grill). Thank you.
Hi thanks for watching, the broil king range really is fantastic
I didn't know wicth you choose, but now I'm going with the Broil King.
Thank you From Canada.
Thank you for watching, great choice, you will love it
Thanks Will, another great video. interesting to see the differences between the two brands, especially the difference in pellet consumption. Amazing smoke ring, looks like you'll be eating brisket all week!!! Look forward to seeing the ribs next.
Thank you!
I’m fully loaded with brisket for a while 😂😂
Ribs should be good!
The Broil King tastes better cos it rested on a black towel. The color makes all the difference. One other theory might be, because it came from a different cow :) Nice Vid 👍
Black towels are always better 😂 thanks for watching
Fantastic video ... so glad I found it. Is support for the Traeger OK in the UK, seeing it’s an American brand, just worried if I need a replacement or something.
Certainly keen on the 850, just have to find a decent retailer for it.
Thanks for watching.
The Traeger uk brand are great and really helpful with any issues.
I’m actually selling this timberline 850
I bought the BK about 6 months ago and really dislike it for multiple reasons (poor reliability and consistency, terrible app, ride staff, etc.). I would spend my money on the Treager next time.
I think the fat rendered better on the broil king because it was in there longer . 2 briskets the same exact weight finishing at different times makes me think the broil king was actually a lower temp that what was set . Overall a decent video thanks . As someone researching pellet smokers for purchase this video definitely helps . Cheers
This. I have a Traeger and I have finally recognized the key to melt in your mouth is not just temp, but time at temp. I have had to learn patience and to slow the cook down between 180 and 200. I had two shoulders cooked the "same" but one went from 180 to 200 in about an hour and one took 3 hours to go from 180 to 196 (never hit 200) and the second one was mind blowing texture.
@The Insufferable Tool yep thats what happens when you experiment .lots of speculation . Absolutely nothing wrong with speculation .look at your reply to me ,it's rife with speculation . Next time instead of trying to discredit my opinions it might be more productive for everyone if you just offer your opinion and we can discuss it ?
dude, you are hysterical. loved the video. did you use same pellets on both? do you prefer one pellet over the other? do you think it's better to get the timberline 850 or the 1300?
Good job that was an objective test when broil grill equipment and merchandise every where!
thanks for watching
Thanks Will going to pick up a Broil King. Nicely done comparisons. Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for watching!
You certainly won’t regret it mate!
Need any tips give me a shout
Just purchased it today. An early Christmas present. Only other thing I added beside the cover is a smoke tube. Delivery next week and they haul my old gas bbq away.😊
Congratulations 😁 have to do the Turkey on it! I’ve got a video coming out soon on brining and smoking a Turkey 🔥
Another great video Will. I was looking forward to seeing the comparison between the two pellet smoker/grills, especially since this is Traeger's newest model. Well done!
As always thank you for watching. Throughout the whole cook i thought the Traeger has this in the bag but it just didn’t on the cut or taste
@@WillsGrillShack I think that Traeger and others are trying to play catch-up to the well-engineered functionality of the BK in an effort to regain lost market share. -Gotta love competition! :-)
It would be interesting if you used the same pallets on both Grills to then see the true difference between the grills as opposed to the pallets potentially making up some of the difference. Just a suggestion :)
I thought about that but I wanted to use their own branded pellets to see the difference in flavour. Same pellets wouldn’t effect the up and down on the Traeger though.
LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT! Thanks for sharing Will :)
Glad you enjoyed it mate
The on/off traeger fan is strange. Have the ironwood and it’s pretty consistent. Love the sounds though, like a jet aircraft.
Ahahaha love it. The fan was a weird one but think the temp was too high for super smoke
Great vid Will, I thought the super smoke only worked from 165 degrees to 225 degrees, would that have made a difference to the temperature spikes in the Traeger ?
Yup, it’s still very spikey at 225c though
To stick to true Texas form ll, go fat side up my friend. Gravity works for you. The "barrier" between heat source is irrelevant when it comes to these smoker's. Great video
Great video, thank you. What did you have as your mop sauce/spray?
Thanks for watching
50/50 apple cider vinegar and water mix
The fan on fan off you refer to has nothing to do with holding temperature. It is doing that because you had Super Smoke turned on. I've owned a Timberline for almost 4 years and it is awesome and holds Temps great.
Yup, that’s what caused the temp fluctuations but it shouldn’t
Hey JR. i'm thinking of getting a timberline 850. can i bug you with a question? would you get that or the larger 1300? i sort of like the 850 size. and what pellets are your favorite? i've heard the traeger pellets may not be your best best. What say you??? Thanks!! any other tips would be appreciated.
Thanks Will, which Yeti box is that please?
A yeti haul, thanks for watching
The temp fluctuations are probably intentional to mimic a offset smoker with a real stick fire .
It was the super smoke mode that caused it. When running over 100c the fan will fluctuate.
@@WillsGrillShack Yes so similar to an offset smoker . Would you consider doing comparison again . Using the same pellet brand in both machines as a comparison.
Thanks for this comparison. Ive been debating between Broil King and Traeger...on a number of criteria. This side by side has helped...I'll be going to speak with my local 🇨🇦 Broil King dealer.
Thanks for watching. Broil king is a fantastic grill you won’t regret it
Hi Will, happy new year. Please can you tell me what knife you are using ?
Great channel.
Thanks for watching! These are the Dalstrong gladiator series
Wow, that was quick. Is it the 10" slicer ? Ta
@@dennishammond2601 Na it’s the 14” one mate
Only negative i have found with my broil king is when i put my thermopro wireless thermo at grate level it was showing big difference with what the controller said. They sent me a new probe but i have not installed yet. Cause my controller was holding steady 225 for hours and im thinking wow this thing is dialed in but the thermopro which i trust more for temp was saying i was at 280ish. Few degrees i could understand but not that many, will let you know if new sensor fixes issue
Interesting ive seen a few people with the same issue. Not something that I’ve come up against though. Let me know how it goes
That’s quite a knife!
Question for the wrapping section of this cook: when wrapping, did you remove the meater probes before wrapping, and did you put them back in, or did you only use the smoker’s dedicated probe only after the wrap?
I like your channel dude 🙂Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Got loads more content coming. Turkey next 😁
@@WillsGrillShack And TBO I can't taste a dam thing from the Traeger pellets, I'm using a Traeger Pro 850, soon as I have that paid off I'm adding a KJ to my shack. Dam you guy's your costing me a fortune lol - Some cooks and my shack here: instagram.com/__coolkidlee/ Again thanks for the uploads
@@xrayhead shack looks very nice as does the food! The Traeger pellets I was actually fairly impressed with after I heard all the negatives! Try the Bk ones though they are full of flavour
@@WillsGrillShack Cheers fella will do, SUB'ed to your channel (Will keep an eye on your following content). Good luck with the CZcams stuff 🤟
Been thinking of getting the Timberline. BBQ world have a good deal on it. Was looking at a Weber smoke fire as I have a lot of the GBS accessories but it doesn’t get much love on CZcams. What broil king pellet grill do you recommend 👍
Socal.co.uk have the timberline at £1599 atm and if you message them say I sent you you will get some freebies too. The broil king is the regal 500 which is a fantastic grill and my go to.
@@WillsGrillShack just had a look and they've got it up for £1899 :( how often do they have it up for that price?
@@ohnoitsaj that was a Black Friday deal. I would wait for Traeger day in a couple of weeks
Hello, i have problems with the temperature by the broil king 20degress lees than also by the treager…
It is your problem the same?
Thanks very much ✌🏻🔥
nope no issues with mine
Your traeger was going up and down in temp due to super smoke being on. It would hold steadier temp without it. It turns off the fan to allow the pellets make more smoke.
Yup, should really be able to hold a stable temp on super smoke though
I have a question about the noise of treager and broil king pellet smokers I'm very satisfied about the smoke quality of my GMG Ledge but... The noise is really unbearable. I will return it.
Your answer can help me with my new choice. Thanks!
The broil king is quieter but is a dull noise, the Traeger is just the fan, both quieter than the GMG from what I’ve seen of it
@@WillsGrillShack Thank you!
Hey will.
Do you know if the regal 400 the same as the 500 just smaller? Or is there other differences?
The 500 is just bigger than the 400 by 1 cast iron grill
Other than that no difference I’m aware of
Do the webber 2nd generation
It's interesting that both these grills are priced at 1700 pounds in the UK. In the US, the Traeger Timberline 850 is $1800, while the Broil King Regal 500 can be had for about $1330 (prices as of today). If indeed the Broil King is the better choice, that's a no brainer. Besides the Broil King winning out on taste, were there any things you felt the Traeger did better that are worth noting? I've been looking for an insulated pellet grill to replace my 8 year old Traeger lil Tex Elite since that particular grill has trouble with temperatures when it gets cold here in PA. I looked at the Timberline but the cost was just too much. I just became aware of the Broil King and it's semi-insulated, so it's on my short list.
Thanks for watching. The prices between the uk and us is crazy!!
The Traeger did cook more evenly I didn’t have to rotate like I did the BK but that’s it. I so wanted to like the Traeger but it’s no where near the quality of the Bk. Watch my timberline review I explain a bit more in that.
I've seen both the Timberline 1300 and the Broil King.
The Trager is built like a tank and has a heavy lid. Can't say the same for the Broil King. Cheers from Canada.
I agree with the nice heavy lid on the Traeger. Thanks for watching
The Broil King Regal 500 weighs 275lbs and has a 2mm thick construction versus the Traeger 1300 which weighs 226lbs (the 850 weighs 208lbs). You may be thinking about Broil King's "Crown" version of the 500 series smoker grill which weighs 180lbs and has fewer features (and less cost). I saw them both side-by-side and ended up with the Broil King Regal 500. It is far superior to the Traeger in build quality and features.
@@duncanjames914 good to know. Wonder if my stainless steel grill grates from my Sovereign 90xl will fit in this grill. Not a fan of the cast iron plates...been there done that.
@@jluberto3852 You could always check the BK website. They show the grate dimensions. I actually like the cast grates as they didn't coat them in porcelain and develop a nice seasoned finish. Heavy SS grates are also an excellent choice. :-)
Is that rust on the inside of the Broil King?
Apparently everyone that owns the traeger says fuck the warranty and uses other pellets, which I mean they won't know what pellets you use
Nice Video, Greets from Germany…🙋🏻♂️
Thank you for watching 🔥
The broil King looks like beef jerky judging by how you're chewing on it
can you wrap in foil? or, is the paper better??
i find foil steams it much better to use paper
How can you do Broil King vs. Traeger test with Broil King tag hanging at your wall...not serious sorry dude. I use my Traeger almost every day even for my x-mas duck. Especially my brisket FULL PACKER is always turning out WOW....both from China...both good for amateurs as us.
Recteq RT-700 is your winner.
Heard very good things about those! Havnt seen anyone in the UK using one though
Trouble is all brisket are different fat should have cut one in
that's what i was thinking. the briskett itself may have been "better" on broil king so it may not be a perfectly fair test. ha. do you have a traeger?
Looks great but next time all up not across
not sure what you mean?
@@WillsGrillShack you're pulling the beef against the grain
If you pull up it should pull easier
I love my Broil King, and it's made in North America. Traeger is made in China.
Build quality is absolutely fantastic on the broil king
These Broil Kings grills are made in China now. I just bought model # 948050 and its MIC.
@@DS-wt7ul If that is the case I would contact Broil King, their WEB SITE says "Proudly Made in North America" Call: 1(800) 265-2150. My Pellet Grill was made in North America.
Its a shame these line of Broil King grills are made in China. I just bought one expecting otherwise. When it was delivered I was sad to find out its made in China.
unfortunately most grills are made in china these days
@@WillsGrillShack Yeah. It's still a nice grill though. Cooked on it today in fact
Rex tex is best
Everyone seems to Rave about these but they aren’t available in the uk yet 😢
Far, far from cooked nicely. Too be honest? Brisket cooked well should never (never) be that difficult to break/tear up. Sorry my friend…. That’s a million miles off a well cooked Brisket. Far, far from it. Sorry. Just…. Saying it like it is. You know it, I know it.
Regards.
Yeah I was wondering why it didn't pull apart with little to no effort