The Goldfinch Isn't THAT Bad
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i think with finn’s character boris, people who didn’t read the book don’t understand that boris’ accent sounds like that because he isn’t ALL russian. he’s loved in so many places that his accent is a mix of russian, ukrainian, australian and american. so some say finns accent was poorly done when it was meant to sound like that. just thought i’d put that out there.
YES! finn did it perfectly
Russian accents are also really hard to master, and it’s also Finn’s first time doing a character with an accent, so it’s quite good for a first time
@@daisychainsaw yeah I even saw some Russian people talking about how good it was, and that these people must not know what they sound like... honestly it was so good.
he sounds like dracuala tho
@@skiladdy4509 he's supposed to😂 Theo said in the book he had blended accents and sounded much like a vampire.
as a fan of the book i think this would have been 1000x better if it had been adapted into a limited series instead of a movie
Oh man that's a hot take and I agree 100%
I feel like that's a lot of movies adapted from books tbh
Absolutely.
oh shit yeah
yeah, it's too much to cover in 2 and a half hours
best 2.5 hours i ever spent in a theater alone, completely alone
I went to see a movie and the trailer for this showed, where it said “Rated R for language and drug use” and a guy in the corner just went “oh heck yeah”.
Just felt like you should know that.
"Oh Heck Yea" - Some Random Guy at the movies
When I went to go see IT chapter two, some guy in the movie theatre, a few seats away from us yelled, "HELL YES!" once the movie was about to start, It was great😂
your face is like a discount ansel elgort & I mean that in the nicest way possible
Grayce I was literally thinking the exact same thing
WTF he really do look like a half brother
But Ansel Elgort already looks like a discount attractive white man.
Like a lab was trying to make the perfect attractive straight white man but added a bit too much inbreeding and ansel came out so they discarded him and somehow he found his way into hollywood
His father is a photographer so yeah he was groomed to be photogenic and relying on his youth & good lighting, he has known it his entire life so maybe the craft of acting fell by the wayside. He's a great poser, just not one who emotes well. He's a class ahead of Timothee Chalamet from the same school, but one clearly has bypass the other in their acting chops - on high school videos, you can see one working feverishly at the craft while the other was expecting his good looks & inflated ego (not his fault he was fed that his entire life; but it his when he never questioned it & went beyond that defiant arrogance) to carry him.
😂
i disagree with you on finn wolfhard's performance. i think him and oakes fegley did pretty great as young boris and theo and how i envisioned them to be from reading the book. considering that boris is eccentric in the book and also has a weird combination of accents, i think he portrayed it great.
I respect your opinion however I personally think Finn and Oaks play very different performances Finn is over the top and oaks is a little bit empty (however out of all the performances in the film he was the best even though I found him personally kind of empty aswell
@@thefilmfanatic2668 Boris is an over-the-tip, slightly manic character though. I actually thought Finn wasn't over-the-top enough.
I agree
Someone I know is acting in this movie. Plays a minor character but it's cool. Especially since this is the first movie he's acting in and the cast is stacked
2:29 He's the kid in that shot
oh he plays andy?? i thought he did an awesome job. i love his character
everyone i know who's been to see it have sung his praise! apparently a real scene stealer
Ooh That's so cool I'm so happy for him :))
This is such a good opportunity if he wants to enter in the world of cinema
@@ClubHouseComicsinc wow
Imagine if he becomes popular in the future and plays a main role.
I think the book would work best as a miniseries, in 4 episodes, one hour each. The first would be the beginning and would go until the arrival of Theo s father to take him to Las Vegas. The second would be Las Vegas until his father's death and him returning to NY. The third would be his time in NY, his wedding preparations, and Boris's return. And the last one would be the part in Amsterdam, until the end of the book. I think is better structure, and will give more time to build the story without rushing anything.
Felipe Sommer YES omg that would’ve been so much better
Years from now, when the movie is a distant memory, Netflix or HBO will be doing this exact same thing I bet.
I agree with this but i would make it eight episodes instead of four since there's soo much content in the books, four hours would still seem a little too rushed
I'll also make another prediction: This miniseries will happen when Oakes Fegley will be old enough to play older Theo and they will cast him (I think people who hated the film all agree Oakes was great, right?)
@@klausweasley yeah the only agreement on the movie, was Oakes and Jeffrey Wright performance. If this happens it would be something interesting to see
Karsten your performance in this film was a bit lackluster :(
Good point
He does kinda look like handsome yogurt...I mean Ansel Egort.
KinkajouOneTwo I enjoyed it. Like a 5/10
@@FreyaEinde It's Hansel Egot.
lmao
Am I the only one who thinks Finn did an amazing job? I mean the boy mixed 5 accents together, gave off an INCREDIBLE vibe that fit Boris SO well, he looks and acts just like Boris and in all the reviews I've read so far they say that Finn was the only thing they enjoyed or wanted to pay attention to. Guys, with the accent... READ THE BOOK and get to know Boris then watch the movie, the boy isn't only Russian. He did amazing in my opinion they couldn't have found a better young Boris. 👏🏻
Totally agree with you best performance I've seen in ages.
@@ZA-kp5tl I know right? Him and Oakes killed this. They're so good separately it was an honor to get to see them in the same movie before they get older because they're both about to be huge stars they're so incredible!
Cream Soda YES YES AND YES
The film should’ve portrayed that then, the point of the movie is to stand alone, not to be a companion to the book or vice versa. You should not have to read the book to appreciate the performance
@@FortuitousOwl he literally lista all of the place a he has lived in in the movie. i havent read the book and i rwalised right away that the accent is strange, but the moment he mentioned travelling so much and at such a young age when his accent is still developing i understood what was going on. you clearly just weren’t paying attention. probably because it’s SO long
I'm very proud of Oakes. The only other big movie he was in was Pete's Dragon, and he did that when he was a young kid. He's deserves awards for his performance, it was awesome. I'm also pretty proud of Finn's for his Russian accent, half of my family is Russian, and for a kid who has never done an accent in a film before, his accent was GREAT. This movie was overall pretty good, but not going to lie, it wasn't the most amazing movie, but still, I will be watching it again.
"it's such a mess. one of the messiest films i've ever seen"
then gives it a 7/10
cool
Ya I know right? Opinions huh? Weird
For me popchyk has the best acting! He did his role very convicing. That moment when he was eating potato chips? Awe.
this is why all👏🏽books👏🏽are👏🏽better👏🏽as👏🏽miniseries👏🏽
the shining
@@strakadrozd56 like most good movie adaptations, the shining is really more *inspired by* the book. King hates the movie because kubrick changed so much
Abdulla Saleh most books*
@@groovy6703 those are both good ones but they're also are really short books. i guess that is a distinction
*some books.
This movie screams pure Oscar bait.
@Abdulla Saleh After what critics are saying... this could even not get nominated. Maybe cinematography but nothing else.
The only thing this'll get nominated for is cinematography lmao
Well, it was a book first...
It's not getting nominated for BP considering that critical reception
@@harrypotteravenclaw exactly
I thought this movie was really good and I thought Finn Wolfhard did great
Agreed!
Finn wolfhard did HORRIBLY
@@arrowperetz4376 no
Arrow Wtf he really gave me the vibe of young Boris when i read the book and he’s performance was pretty good
Arrow Wtf why are you so negative lmao
I actually really liked the movie....🙃
me too
Same
Julia Olguin me too, to me it was emotional & beautiful
Julia Olguin Ik the actors were really good. Ngl the movie was slow at times but overall I loved it
I feel the same. So I was shocked to come back home and read that it’s basically getting shit on and I’m just so incredibly confused xD
My issue was Crowley didn't use methods Tartt used in the book to keep readers engaged. His flash backs and time jumps dried out sections such as the bombing (the art that's supposed to draw you in), Theo's relationship with his dad (vegas was to goddamn short) and the ending when theo feels guilty for killing that guy
I agree, Vegas was so short and so much to explore between him and his fathers dynamic. Also, the time Theo spent in the hotel it didn't capture his anxiety, fear, paranoia and ultimate suicidal depression. It glossed over these two parts imo
Wow. I can not disagree with you more on Finn Wolfhard's performance. I agree on Oakes being a stand out but I actually thought Finn brought so much life to Boris and the movie too. The NY Post's review on The Goldfinch, called him also one of the best things about the movie too:
"There is just one fantastic creation, however: Boris, played by 16-year-old Finn Wolfhard. What a talent the “Stranger Things” star is turning out to be, containing every ounce of angsty suburban edge and humor that John Cusack and Matthew Broderick had at his age. This time he plays a goth-ish Russian teen who’s moved around the world his whole life, and becomes a fast friend and confidant to Theo in Vegas. Fegley finally comes alive in his scenes with the lanky actor, and their boyish fun feels genuine. When Wolfhard’s portion of the movie is over, effectively so is the movie."
There's a reason why Boris is one of the fan favorites from book readers of The Goldfinch. I wish they had given adult Boris more space to develop since I thought Aneurin gave a compelling performance as well.
i agree with you 👏
i think the movie was beautiful. coming from a readers perspective, the actors portrayed their characters very well. this is a very complex novel, meaning it’s also very hard to do it justice, but i think they covered the really important things in a really unique way. i enjoyed it, but you’d definitely need to have a lot of book knowledge to feel the same
Honestly, this book was just way too complex to be adapted into something this short. I'll be spending my time hoping that one day someone will decide to make it into a limited series or something :/
Should've been a miniseries on HBO or Netflix
damn i didn’t think finn did bad enough to call his performance embarrassing, i mean “slavic androgynous bette davis” has gotta count for something right?
maddy !!! He’s pretty bad
i think he was great for boris, the accent was perfect for what it was supposed to be (i dont think people understand that boris isnt ALL russian) and he defo looks the part lmao
Nah, Finn did great, he was one of the highlights in the movie, stole a lot of his scenes and has great chemistry either Oakes. Completely brought Boris to life from the book.
he did pretty great actually. considering that boris is pretty eccentric in the book too, with a weird combination of accents, i think he portrayed young boris pretty well.
THANK YOU FOR PRAISING OAKES
EVERYONE SAID HE DID BAD AND IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
donna tartt didn’t have a part in writing the screenplay, which, why?? she’s an amazing writer and probably could have helped with some of the issues relating to the themes. as much as i love her work, i don’t think any of it would translate well to an individual film anyway, a miniseries would be much better, since at least to me her books need time to sit, so you can think and process and interpret.
yeah, i also think a mini series would work better, i mean the book’s already split up pretty neatly so it’d translate into a few episodes quite nicely i think! i also think it’s weird how absent donna was from this project, iirc john crowley mentioned in an interview that he’s only ever met her once! surely if you’re adapting a novel into a film you’d want the author’s opinion on some aspects, but crowley seems to have thought he could manage on his own :\
I read the book over the summer and it is now one of my favorites
Same
To be honest the third act of the book was off and didn’t feel consistent with the rest of the chapters
Right? Like I feel like the movie is just echoing the book.
Yeah, that's what I've been hearing too
THE WAY U SLEPT ON ANEURINS AMAZING PERFORMANCE
I disagree on Finn Wolfhard’s performance. The second act was the best part of the movie for me, and he was in it the most in act 2. And it’s not a completely biased opinion I was actually kind of nervous that he wouldn’t be able to pull off the accent but I have to say he did great
he did awesome! both him and oakes did great and would have loved a full movie of just them and the vegas section lol
a n haha me too
“This thing is long, unsatisfying, and one of the messiest films I’ve ever seen, the director didn’t commit to the source material and GOD I hope it doesn’t win any awards...
...but it’s not that bad guys, come on” 😂
(Btw before you comment, just know that I did watch the whole video twice and I understand all of his positives and negatives with this film, I just thought this was hilarious lol)
i thought this was a harry potter film.
*well*
the main character actually gets called potter by his friend throughout the book
Niki Sepehrinejad wow ok that’s actually interesting.
Timmy fell down that
Boris calls Theo Potter all the time in the book and film (it’s kind of adorable)
@@acerose6017 it's very adorable
I also saw this movie before reading the book (I'm currently reading it) and I'm wondering if maybe that's why I liked it? I had no preconceived notions beyond having seen the trailer, I didn't bring any baggage or expectations with me, I just went and saw the film by myself on a sunday afternoon. First things first, Deakins is a GENIUS and I'm convinced his contributions make everything at least 30% better (if not more) than they would've been without him. It's a film about art, and Deakins makes every frame a masterpiece. Bless him. I also agree that Oakes was wonderful and Ansel... was not. But I've yet to see him in anything that made me feel different. It's almost painful sometimes watching him. Still not sure how this career happened. But Oakes? Nailed it. Great job. And Sarah Paulson never fails to delight. Jeffery Wright seemed almost too well casted, as I'm pretty sure he's played this exact type of roll a dozen times before. We didn't get enough time with the older Boris for me to have an opinion about him, but I think you were being a little harsh on Finn Wolfhard. Was the accent perfect? No. But the accent of a Ukranian child that's moved countless places around the world seems like it would be pretty tricky for most people to pull off. And there was nothing wrong with his performance other than people that can't (won't? don't want to?) see him as anything too far outside his 80s child niche of Stranger Things and It. He's got some work ahead of him to shuck those roles off- especially since one of them is still ongoing- but out of all the kids from those projects I think he's the most likely to do it. Let's give him a chance. I also disagree about Nicole Kidman's performance. I thought she was near flawless as a prim, emotionally stilted rich woman whose affection for this boy begins bubbling up to the surface. I genuinely felt for her and appreciated that he motivations weren't immediately clear but that the more you saw of her the more you understood her. The girls that played Pippa both did a fine job, though I will say I found Luke Wilson's presence in this film jarring. Perhaps I have the same role-distancing problem with him that some people have with Wolfhard, but he just felt very out of place to me.
Overall I would say this was a very impressionistic adaptation, which is arguably appropriate considering the source material, and perhaps is better enjoyed by those that haven't read the book. It gave broad strokes, and told the story mostly in visuals, and for that reason I found myself wanting to know more- ergo I went out and bought the book afterwards.
I have no idea why I just wrote so much, but eh. There it is. People should give this film a shot at the very least. There's so much garbage out there, and this certainly wasn't garbage.
I was excited for this because it had Perfume Genius music for the trailer and it was very good...
I'm so glad you made this video
Thanks Karsten! Thanks for all the movie reviews!
I loved it. Aneurin did an amazing job in this.
Great Vid Karsten! Your reviews are the best.
i saw this movie and i thought it was beautiful and i don’t know why people hate it so much. it definitely deserves some awards and i thought finn wolfhard was great in it and the other cast too.
I love this movie as an extension of the book. It was messy because they had to fit a very long book into a movie. It doesn’t stand very well on its own but the scenes are pulled right out of the book so I thoroughly enjoyed it.
“Including my MaaaHhm” was the best part of the video
wow this was an actual good rundown! Some of the things he was saying were very blunt and very true
omg i am so pumped about the lighthouse that it's totally overshadowing the joker for me, even though I love Phoenix.
i personally loved the movie! definitely experienced a lot of emotions XD felt like i was laughing one minute and crying the next. would definitely watch it again.
I'm with you man. Not perfect, but nowhere near as bad as the reviews.
Young Thhheeeoooooo
i watched it last night and i thought it was super good??? i didn’t understand the ratings at all lol
bee I watched it last night as well and even my mom (who doesn’t like many movies) thought it was great
Kailie Rian as someone who read the book, it was a really good depiction. it was great
I swear I find all these movies from you. I had no idea about this movie and it had quite a good cast 🤷
I was really excited to see this and then I saw the thumbnail and my heart sunk😂
I've seen the Goldfinch, the painting, that was fun
nice review. Yes this cinematography is stunning!
hold awn....that was angel elgort?? not you???
Super excited for more videos from TIFF
can u do a video on it 2 maybe ?
I just got back from seeing this, loved it.
i thought aneurins performance was so great wth
interesting to see karsten review himself in a movie yet manage to remain impartial. props to you my friend
I really want someone to adapt this again as a 4/5 part mini series.
My boy, Roger Deakins, at it again.
THE VIDEO WE NEEDED
Ooo that outro music is so good.
I thought it was the best Hollywood movie I've seen since Dunkirk. Definitely recommend reading her book too btw!
Ok so I’m the only person that LOVED the movie?!
Your definitely not the only one,I loved the movie
Thank you!!
I agree about the negatives, but I also thank you from the bottom of my heart for highlighting the positives.
I love the book, and some locations (eg Vegas suburb or Hobie's place) honestly made me feel like they were torn out of my head just as I imagined them. my mom said the same. as bad as Finn Wolfhard or (dear god) Nicole Kidman's perfomances were, the movie gave me goosebumps at times.
all in all, it was an ok spectacular experience for someone who read the book and can fill in the plot holes from the source.
After seeing previews for this I was pretty excited based purely on the cinematography. As you said, it looks fantastic. Despite bad reviews I'll probably still see this one. -Josh
I felt compelled to support this film because the author's from Mississippi and frankly we need something to be proud of
Loved the book, and the movie. Highly recommend both.
I just came back to edit my comment because I just watched this film and wow very on point!!
the book has the same problem about the painting not mattering long enough where you resent it when it's brought up again
It's honestly really good.
Change My Mind.
TGF was my favorite movie this year tbh i- I’ve seen in twice in theaters and I intend to immediately buy it on digital when it comes out
I actually didnt mind Ansel Elgort's performance. It seemed to me that at that point in his life he had mastered turning on and off his feelings. I kind of took the emptiness as this character had been thru so much that he himself was just kind of empty inside. Nicole Kidman's performance wasnt what it usually is, but as you mentioned, I dont think she had much to go off of. I kind of felt that her character was one of those stereotypical rich women who just kind of held her tongue more often than not and lived/behaved how society thought she should. As you mentioned, the movie wasnt a masterpiece, but it wasnt terrible.
Goldfish > Goldfinch
C'mon it's not that hard of a choice
Fear the snack that smiles back
I love the fishes cuz they’re so delicious
Baby is his own emotion okayyy Karsten
this was a great video karsten, idk why u worried about it
Thank you for defending this movie! BUT... The older Theo is an empty character because of trauma and detachment, so it’s an accurate portrayal. Also, couldn’t disagree with you more about Nicole Kidman’s performance - one of her best!
This film holds a beautiful sense of melancholy throughout and definitely isn't for everyone. I loved it but I'd never successfully convince my friends to like it.
I loved the movie I watched it 3 times. I want to watch it again. The parts I liked the best are the ones with Theo and Boris. Young and old. I'll probably end up buying it too.
When I read the book I really liked the book when he was younger but got bored once he was an adult and never finished the book.
Honestly, the way you describe the movie is the way I felt about the book... Haven't seen the film yet, but that book was hella boring at the end
The Hudhornet WRONG
The Hudhornet man stfu I LOVED the ending.
the ending was beautiful
The Goldfinch was EFFING AMAZING!
I appreciate you going against the grain on this one. Having read the book and loving it, I was pretty deflated by the contrasting gorgeous visuals with a thematically disastrous, draggy film. One thing I loved about this movie, however, was the cafe scene between Theo and Pippa.
This is why I love film.
I agree with most of what you said. After reading and falling in love with the book, I had very high expectations for the film. It was pretty inevitable to be disappointed somehow. The biggest thing is that they packed in every single thing from the book into the film. That is so HARD to do and as you said, it dragged and felt messy because there were a million things to help tell the story. Which sucks but what can you do! I loved Oakes Fegley, was pretty disappointed in Finn Wolfhard's performance, but overall love the characters. great review!
Lol my mom is also obsessed with the book.
When I first read the book 2 years ago I literally had to slog through the first 200 pages before putting it down because it had bored me (almost to tears). However, I decided to pick up where I left off about a week after and managed to go through the remaining 700 pages in less than a week. Kind of funny isn't it?
The movie is not out in cinemas over in my country but I intend on downloading the Blu-ray version when it gets released
I went to tiff too! Ranking the films I saw there from weakest to best;
Heroic Losers: This Argentinian heist-comedy ironically could have used more comedy and tighter pacing.
Hustlers: "Magic Mike" meets "Can You Ever Forgive Me"
A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood: Melodramatic, but Tom Hanks IS Mister Rogers
Bad Education: Part-dramedy part-investigative thriller about a real life school scandal where Hugh Jackman is MVP
First Love: Weirdly-paced Japanese genre-blend that alternates between demented fun and slow melodrama
Gundala: A promising start to a Indonesian martial arts-superhero shared universe even if the final fight ends rather anticlimactically
Jojo Rabbit: Anti-hate satire with a heavy indie/hipster vibe
Weathering with You: A beautiful and worthy (if more melodramatic) follow-up to "Your Name"
Knives Out: A sharply-written whodunit with an unorthodox structure to keep the audience guessing.
Ford vs Ferrari: One of the best race films in years anchored by great chemistry among the leads
Guns Akimbo: A demented sci fi-action-comedy with fast pacing and a lot of fun.
I saw the movie prior to reading the novel and am grateful that I did. It made reading the novel more enjoyable for me.
I 100% agree with everything critique but I also loved it idk
I loved the trailers and wanted to see this movie.
so i know by now that this is a pretty old movie (i say that in the attitude of “nobody really cares about it anymore”), but you addressed how the goldfinch went unmentioned for a large portion of the story. and.... honestly, that’s how the book is too. there are pages upon pages of his life, only slipping back to the goldfinch to remind you that it existed, in his old apartment, in his suitcase, behind his bed frame, under the bed. it was a constant presence, but it wasn’t an overbearing one.
THANK YOU GOD ! Lmaoo as a fan of the book, I do have a sort of bias and I still haven’t seen the movie but I’ve been spoiled enough and the critics just are harsh for nothing. I mean I heard the pacing is horrid, but come on the accent wasn’t bad and the cinematography was great. I did not like Nicole Kidmans character of Mrs. Barbour was extended for her, like seriously Mrs. Barbour wasn’t important in the book.
xoxo talice fuck mrs. barbour I didn't care about her the entire book
I haven't read the book but I liked the film. And young Theo was so good.
I watched this movie without ever having read the book and mostly I just felt... confused. Like I was intrigued the entire time but I felt like very few of the storylines were ever really resolved so there wasn't much in the way of a payoff.
been looking forwards to this movie for months glad to hear someone say its not complete garbage
john crowley directed brooklyn. one of my favorite films ever
I never read the book however, the trailer made me excited. I thought the movie looked intriguing but didn't have my hopes high. I didn't expect to be blown away and in all honesty I wasn't. This is a movie I could see myself revisiting in the future. For me the first 2/3 of the movie felt slow paced which is something I liked where as the final third felt extremely rushed. I think its a good movie but not a must watch. 6.5/10 for me!
Took the wordd right outta my mouth
I just watched this movie and I really enjoyed it.
Watching the trailer, I thought this was made for some Oscar stuffs, and it had all the right ingredients, but the right recipe.
It was an absolutely beautiful movie!!! I think that the book gives you reasons why Ansel Elgort and Nicole Kidman seem empty. They are supposed to be seen that way. I just think they didn’t have time to show exactly why. Definitely should have been a limited series rather than a movie. The book is 750 pages and it absolutely could not have been squashed into such a short film