Chief Midegah is Asked About Mesoamerica
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2024
- As many people want to argue about the location of the Book of Mormon, placing a great divide on where the book take place, you may be surprised about the similarities of all the people.
Im sorry that you have been so disrespected in the past few weeks. I for one, am very grateful you are sharing all this information.
Two weeks? Try 200 years. I think he’s talking about just the disrespect from people since he has come out to speak publicly about the things he has known his whole life. This is why a lot of people in the various tribes and nations don’t share knowledge with people because they are disrespected when they do, this is nothing new. I started listening over 25 years ago, and I was amazed at what I was told. This is not just a history. This is a way of life. I’m sorry that he was disrespected also. I’m sorry that a lot of other people who have tried to speak truth over the last 50 years have been disrespected. Some have been put in jail. Sounds familiar or doesn’t it? Sort of like when Joseph Smith and other people try to speak truth and people got agitated and tried to murder them, and then put them in jail. So he understands.
Im as well sorry for this very same thing. This is important history we need to hear. How can we claim to believe in the BoM yet ignire or deny what this Chief is sharing with us. I could listen to him all day. So much for us to learn. I have such great love for this Chief
I am not native American. But I grew up loving everything about the "People". I'm certain that I don't know everything about them, but I grew up LDS, & I took had a life event that caused pain and very hurt feelings and I fell away from the church for a time, until about 6-7 years ago. I always had a testimony, so I felt it was finally time I returned to it. I believe everything that Chef Midigah said is the truth. So, now I am trying to understand what the church authorities say about it. And exactly what is it that the cheif
wants? Is he asking to be acknowledged? Or is there some sort of status or title he wants from the church? I'm not trying to seem sarcastic here, I just really want to understand what exactly it is he is looking for at this point? Does he want the church to sign a document, the same way the Jewish rabbis did in Israel? Just looking for some clarity. Thank you, and I look forward to hearing more about these things he knows. I also would love to see one of the scrolls he says he has, and would like to know if they have been carbon tested & dated for authenticity? And I want to hear more details about the boat that was found in the ice in the great lakes!! More please! MORE!! God bless you, for bringing this to light! 🥰🙏❤️
@@shelleyrogge2924 it's good to question his intent. Listen to the Spirit. He will testify the truth of all things.
I’m sure he gets a lot of hate which is shameful. I think there are so many people that are thirsting for this kind of information. Thank you for sharing, I love it
" Let prudence guide your actions..."
I could sit and listen to Native oral history all day long. So interesting. We have so much to learn from the descendants of Lehi!
There’s another way you can do that. Depending on what state you live in and where you live, and how far you’re willing to travel, there are a lot of tribes and nations that have lipping history, exhibits, storytelling, etc. They almost always have a cultural heritage center and would welcome, your visit and your ability to sit and just listen to them tell you their stories. The greatest way to show respect for others is to listen to them.
@@csluau5913I didn’t know that! Thank you so much for this information!
@@CarolsCurrentObsession you are very welcome. I wish you well on your path of learning, and pray that the spirit will be with you and guide you to find the truth of all things.
Chief Midegah has an answer for anything I have ever wondered about the Book of Mormon. This is incredible. I can’t stop listening.
There’s a lot more. Keep listening.
@@csluau5913. Where do I find more? Is it forthcoming? And his name is not on the list of speakers mentioned at the end of this interview. ??
@@reneeskieri I don’t know the answer to that. I’m assuming they’re going to continue to take snippets of him talking and release them a little by little
Same!!!!!
This man is a priceless treasure. Wow!
All of his people are priceless treasures. This is one of the things that drove me away from the church many years ago among other things. I’ve made the decision to come back recently because they changed the way they were doing things so that it was more equal in every direction. The people that we call Native Americans, which is really a very generalized term all no connections to each other and other tribes and nations. They have so much more knowledge than people even realize it is insane. I started on that path over 25 years ago, and learned so much it made my head melt. It’s not just about genealogy it’s about a way of life. The term walking the red road actually means something. As a people, Americans have a lot to learn and time is very very short. Ephraim and Manassa are brothers. That is something that people need to remember. Therefore those who are descended from Ephraim and Manassa, our brothers, and that is something that we should be living. That’s all I have to say for now.
Sounds like you’ve had quite the journey! I’m certainly glad to have your back! 😀
@@academyofchampions1 you could say that… But sometimes we have to take a journey in order to know where we stand, and to appreciate where we came from. I think there are many in the world like me who went on journeys, and by getting lost they were found.
My daughter married a Kainai Blackfoot man 30 yrs ago. I have 6 Blackfoot grandsons.
Some of the boys have dreams and visions about these Last Days.
Your comments and knowledge is amazing and precious. Thank you!!!
That's cool!
Chief!!!! You are making the Book of Mormon come alive for me!!!! Hearing your stories and making connections to the stories in the Book of Mormon is absolutely priceless to me. I cannot thank you enough for sharing your wisdom❤❤❤
I would like to know how I might show support to Chief Midegah and how to be a friend to native Americans. As an LDS person I feel care for them and feel it's important to do so. I loved his discussion about links to Jewish Rabbis and some similarities in language. I loved that they traveled North and South - makes so much sense. Thank you.
We out here in beautiful South Africa.. send u our respect listerning hearts. Continue sharing more information please
Chief, my son passed over in May of 2024 at the age of 19. I'm so sorry for your loss.
This is amazing to me!!! We truely are in the last days! I have never heard this before and am so thankful for the internet that I can hear voices I never would have before! Oh how I wish I could attend that conference. Is there any way to pay to stream it??
Yes, please!
Brigham Young made several statements telling the Saints to treat the natives kindly. Joseph Smith sent missionaries to the natives and as far as I’m aware always spoke kindly about them
Brigham would say it’s better to feed them than fight them. I have some pioneer ancestors that wrote about friendships with some of the tribes too.
Ridiculous. Brother Brigham killed stole their land and took everything from them. Read the history and stop believing fairy tales that sound good. I did the same. The truth is heartbreaking
@@mss3834 thank you for your comment.
And "Fairy tales that sound good. ".... so true and sadly occurs way too often, too many lds just suck it up and then " bear testimony of it. "
@@mss3834 if you have truth, then you should share it. Otherwise, it just looks like you are trolling and trying to cause division as a disaffected person. Share what you know.
@@truthseeker4286 that sounds a tad bit sarcastic and antagonistic towards the church. If you remember, and you’re saying this, you should perhaps explain your position. If you’re not a member and you’re here to attack the church, and it’s members, perhaps you would do well to remember that there are a great mini people who have indigenous lineage that are members of the church. They know their own histories in many cases, but some do not because they have had their own history withheld from them. The same is true in the United States. you talk about Brigham Young saying, and doing things that were not very nice towards the different tribes at that time, but there is a lot more to history in America and how unkind people have treated each other than people care to admit. If you want to really add what’s going on right now to the whole spectrum of it, look how unkind people are to each other everywhere in the world and especially in the United States right now. Look how unkind members of the church are to one another. this isn’t about one man. Brigham Young was a man of his time just as all the other ones were. How many people could have stepped forward and did not? so it wouldn’t be fair or proper to sing out Brigham Young, even as a leader of the church, when in fact, most men and women of those days simply turned a blind eye to the atrocities, carried out against the indigenous people of North America, and for that matter central and South America as well.
I'd love to go to the conference! But it will not be possible! I'm loving this information! Please keep the information coming. It's so interesting the history of the both north and south American people and their great civilization before Columbus!
I really do hope we can have more of these open conversations and that people in places of influence will take the time to truly listen with open hearts and minds with the intent to understand.
Amen! So do I. We need more of this Frank unfiltered discussion. The effort of so many people have been opposed and frustrated over decades to come out and speak truth. I myself have been trying to prove that there is a history of the people in the south eastern states, and I have been opposed strongly by academia and local governments who intend to be an obstacle in my way of trying to prove this. So I have to be quiet, that’s OK. The spirit will tell me when the time is right to reveal all these things, and I think that the rose is blooming now. The time may be near for all people with these things, this knowledge, to come forward and share it with those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.
Interesting stuff. Makes me wonder a bit about Elder Holland's recwnt remarks about more scripture coming.
We don't need identical mythologies, just correlation and cooberation.
My thoughts, too ❤🙏
God bless you. I have been saying these very things for years, and strangely no one believes it. I am Okanagan, and I have been trying to teach these sacred truths for years. People have this weird concept about indigenous tribes that was invented by very poor non-native historians from the 1890's that are still taught as fact. But is completely disinterested in anything that natives know about our own history.
Keep pushing with what you know is true and right, regardless of the ignorance that persists among the stupid!😂
Thank you for sharing your true history.
Chief Midegah, you have respect from my family. My family comes from LDS Pioneer times and, according to oral history, the Appalachia tribe.
Apalachee. It’s called Apalachee. Some of them are still alive now and they are living in Florida. Others have scattered on our living in various places from Oklahoma to Louisiana. If you want to know more about your history and these people who are still alive today, seek them out. The goal we should be seeking is to all become one people again. This is one of the purposes of the gospel. Seek out your brothers and sisters.
Thank you so much for your message Chief Midegah. I long for the day when I can meet you and learn more about your people. God Bless you. Robert Nordmark
I don’t have an opinion on Meso vs Heartland. Anyone hating this man is wrong. I love what he has to say. Let us love one another. Respect.
Absolutely. Hatred and contention are not of the Lord. The house of Joseph is two houses in one. Manasa and Ephraim were brothers. So are we.
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The news of Lucky brings me to tears. Getting out of the Army after 12 years of service and struggling to make the transition to civilian life was the hardest challenge of my life. In some ways, I never made the change. It took a lot of love and support from family and friends, specially my wife (after the army wife) to get me through it. It was their unconditional love that got me through it.
And this is the beauty of truth, regardless of who speaks it, it always bears witness to the heart! Thank you
God Bless you Chief. Thank you for sharing information I have a thirst for.
I have always believed the native American people. Do know more about there history then white man.
Whether most or some or all of the tribes (ancesters) lived in Heartland America or Meso-America or a mix of both, I don't care, I'm just after the truth. That's all should matter. Thank you Chief. Amazing info. Keep sharing. Please keep sharing. Many of us members of the church thirst for this info. We know how important that info is. We need more!
Recently a Quechua lady from Bolivia told me that, Cochabamba is Quechua for Cochise Cochise pampa; Cochise is Quechua for a pool of water. Remember the waters of Mormon….
? And you think this is a correlation. Just throwing darts in the dark.
@@truthseeker4286 wasn’t Cochise the famous Comanche Chief name?
Unfortunately, The Book of Mormon has nothing to do whatever with South or Central America.
@@thegreatitudecoach you can tell that to the wild and ferocious lamanites that went wherever whenever and mixed freely with whoever
This same brother will say why are people so narrow minded except they have been fed narrow minded ideas from other narrow minded people by explaining that they spread through both continents via trade routes so open up and blow your mind out of cobwebs
He’s related to everyone which makes me smile. I do believe South America and the heartland were connected with the Book of Mormon.
there many citys that in gulf some omac some nephite stange thing have been found if never read you know what where clear alum has ties omec ( jaredites) and the bible the sea of glass or the clear balls of light found in ether it in both places the prophets have said so look me on face book i have many things i colleted over years posted there
GOLD MINE! I’ve only been a member of the church for a year and a half so I have lots of questions, but THIS was incredible! The lies I learned in school in America sicken and sadden me. I love getting closer and closer to the truth and I got huge confirmations that this was the truth. Bless the sweet soul who served then left us. I immediately got the best feeling just from seeing his picture ….then I realized why the foundation was started. Sorry for your loss.
I am so glad to hear from brother Chief Midegah again. When he mentioned the Okanogan, I teared up again. I was born in Okanogan County, Washington state but am Northern Europe dna. Fascinating what he shares!!! Thank you. It seems the oral history is very powerful. God bless you dear brothers.
Whenever I've heard that there is a disagreement over which area the Book of Morman takes place in, I've been confussed by the argument. It makes sense that they were one people. I've always believed that in my heart.
Great message. Great timing. I think this conference in September is going to be bigger than anyone is imagining. May you be blessed in your efforts to spread the good Word.
It's always the NEXT conference that will be bigger and better than ever before. And really really this time reveal and answer mysteries.
Absolutely fascinating! I’m loving this content, buckle your seatbelt chief. The hate is gonna only ramp up by those who don’t want this to come out. Thank you for sharing.
The LDS academics need to humble themselves and remove the stubborn stick that’s up there behind!😂😂😂
2nd Nephi 27: 16
Yes, this information is so important!
There is only one truth
and yet the comments on here… some STILL pushing that Meso-American malarkey.
As in the 2 Hill Cumorah scholars. They do need to start being honest.
Thank you for sharing your history and way of life. It is hard for people to accept the truth after all the lies we have been told about the history of America. Your truth and testimony is of great value to everyone. I am grateful I can access your interview. They have helped to strengthen my testimony. I also want to thank you for your service and sacrifice for this great nation
We certainly respect you. My granddaughter is half Ho Chunk souix. Thank you for finally speaking up
Fallis is my mother's maiden name. Her paternal great grandfather was from Illinois. He married the daughter of a White Mountain Apache scout and a woman who it is believed was a former slave, who worked as a laundry woman for the fort he scouted for.
Would be awesome if there is some family connection, even if it is very distant. I will have study my tree more closely.
God Bless you. I am thrilled to hear you speak about your lives and History. Please continue to speak out. My heart has been moved.
Fascinating! It's so true that the conquerors write the history. That's what happened to my Celtic ancestors in Ireland.
It is a blessing that you know your history and are willing to share it!
This is incredible priceless sharing. Love your work guys, loving every bit of Chiefs testimony 🔥❤️
Chief, have you met with Wayne May? You are awesome. The nstive Americans are abou to "blossom as a rose " and you are the beginning! Thank you so much❤
Just a little sidenote… There are a lot of different groups of people who have individual identities as families, clans, and nations. I’m not chastising, or correcting you, just giving you some helpful information. He told you what groups he belongs to, so technically speaking, I could say that I am Native American because my family have been here for Seven generations. There is a difference between being native and American, and from an indigenous group that actually has a name.Anishnaabe, Ojibwe, Seneca, Blackfoot, Lakota, Dineh, Apache, crow, Cheyenne, Muskogee, Apalachee, Catawba, Uchi, Yamasi, Hidatsa, Chippewa, Choctaw, And so on… Are all names of different groups, tribes, and nations. so I think how to prospect. Perhaps we should call the person by their name first, and perhaps say that this is the name of of the group of people or their family or clan or tribe or nation, which they come from. It’s like saying that if you are from Ohio or Texas or Virginia or Florida or Tennessee. That’s the best approximation I can give. But he already said that if you go back far enough many of these tribes and nations have common origins. It is my belief that many of them can trace their origins back to the area that was inhabited by a large group of people called “Hopewell“. That’s just an animal that the archaeologists give it. Wayne is good, but it’s even better to talk to and listen to the people themselves and hear what they have to tell you. That’s what Wayne did. That’s what I did long ago.
Chief Midegah - The Ojibwe's Kurt Russel. You're awesome, sir! You should interview with other YT LDS channels like Ward Radio! Keep up the fascinating interviews! God speed!
Ward Radio is to irreverent to sacred things for Chief to be giving them his time.
Im a Latter day Saint and i didn't know the USA was doing this to our Native sisters! I'm so sorry. Love to you Brother.
Oh ive always known this. I have hopi indian on my dads side, cherokee on my moms sude so ive always been interested in the indian people and the book of mormon is a testament of these people. We shoild as lds know that our Govt has come against Gods people. Not just prophet Joseph and the pioneers. For those who have not yet need to wake up and understands that tyranny is of Satsn and this is what our Govt has used abd is using tiday against Gods children.
Thank you for posting your video. It is fascinating.
Soo sorry to hear about Lucky 🥲🙏❤️
I would love to see a class of some kind put on by the church and run by you. It is time that the leaders stop keeping us ignorant on this and so many other things.
All in the Lord’s timing.
Yes, there have been parallels with many of those peoples and the restored gospel. I have seen over sixty summers and keep hearing these connecting stories.
@@rutht2023 Yep.
@@rconger24 I was trying to listen to the video with a lot of noise around me so I need to go back and watch it again.
I don't think it would change anything if the church came out and told us who the Nephites were or where specifically certain people dwelt. The haters would hate on us. The faithful would still be faithful, only we would have one more thing to get attacked for. Let's just keep this between us, the curious who have eyes to see, ears to hear, and we will pray to know if this man speaks truth or not.
Would love to hear more of your history, it is beautiful!! Thank you for sharing with us.
Really gratefull of your sharing Chief Midegah. I grew up in the land of the Illini and have always had good,deep and respectifull feelings for the native indians, thank you. ❤️
I don't blame you for being annoyed at the ignorance of Europeans.
Everything you say makes so much more sense! I wish I could read a book of history by you! You could show the empires/nations that were/are here and the English colonial side too. Wow. My mental map of history is changing/ being updated in the best way. I hope you do more videos and interviews. Spectacular.
We're not ashamed of Mormon. We honor him. We also honor Jesus Christ by being called by the name of He gave us and by following the counsel of His prophet, a man who tells the truth, to be called by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and not by Mormon.
I really appreciate your information and knowledge.
I Believed Everything that he Said I felt The Spirit With What was Said He Sounds So Credible I felt the Spirit so Strongly ! It's so awful how We treated these Wonderful people I feel so Sad because of How We treated these people of Indian decent They are Blessed people of Our JESUS Christ and OUR Father in Heavenly Father!!!
Settle down. "Filled with the Spirit ". Ok. You were probably filled with the Holy Ghost when Tim Ballard was your hero, and "Visions of Glory " was your latest scripture.
@@truthseeker4286
I’m glad I’m not so angry inside as you are. Being rude, rarely wins people over.
I so enjoy you and your videos and wisdom. You are an awesome unifier. It will help a lot see the truth of the two testimonies of both of your sides. Showing it is true.
Thank You again Chief for sharing the truth of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ and The Book of Mormon Record. 💙
Thank you for sharing so much information that I never herd about, I’m so glad you are helping as to understand more about the Book of Mormon and the natives, I’m from Brasil and never herd so much about the Natives, my mother in law was decedent of natives but she never told as much about her family, I will be listening to your podcast every day, I really love to learn more about everything you have to say 🙏
Love hearing from this guy. As an Odawa descendant who would love to learn more of his history, and a member of of the lds of church I would love to hear more of what Chief Midegah has to say.
Makes a lot of sense, and confirms a conclusion I had made too, that looking for the commonalities between The Book of Mormon and Natives will reveal the truth. That has been my experience since looking at both this way anyway.
Chief Midegah mentioned Charles Bottineau as one of his grandfathers and my ears perked up. He is also one of my grandfathers.
Sarah,Book of Mormon pre 1978 stated that converting Lamanites,native Americans skins would turn whiter,see quoted"white&selightsome"to then pure&delightsome after president Kimble s black Revelation.So all Bof Mormons after 1981 read"pure&delightsome",so where did white go?
Does that matter to you so much? My comment had nothing to do with that. I’m not so hung up on it, as one of the many people on this continent that I believe are Lamanite descendants and while also a Book of Mormon believer. Have you not considered that the state of the soul is quite “white and delightsome” when it is made holy by God? (I consider “white” here to be synonymous with “pure” like snow rather than anything race related) And that accepting divine truth when it is offered to you and living according to that divine path is quite a purifying thing, regardless of our outward appearances?
It seems clear in the Book of Mormon, whoever repented and followed the Creator, was spiritually purified and blessed, regardless of origin or skin color. It also is clear and states that God’s word is for all people and all are welcome and invited by God, black and white, bond and free, male and female. And beyond that is the real question: do the teachings of Holy men in the Book of Mormon testify of Christ? Yes, they do. Do the teachings of Holy men in the Book of Mormon bring a person closer to God if one follows them? My personal experiences show me that they do, as does the New Testament. Having passed these tests for me, and having found it a welcome blessing in my life, the topic you bring up has no importance, personally. What I do find significant is how there are many native traditions, teachings, or practices that seemingly align with the teachings and prophecies of the Book of Mormon (as an example, the 7 Fires of the Anishinaabe), both sides corroborating the same thing. Now that is cool and worthy of focus.
But I doubt any of this will matter to you because it doesn’t suit the agenda you seem to be serving on here. Good luck to you, Robert.
My heart grieves at the atrocities and injustices that these people have endured. I don't know how people can be so hard on each other. We can look at so many examples of cruelty that are far worse, but this was just so consistent and for so long. By saying that I'm sorry, I'm acknowledging the pain and sharing remorse for what has happened to your beautiful peoples and cultures.
Well, that's what the book Mormon teaches . Because of their filthiness, they be scattered and smitten. Not my words or wishes… Quite the contrary. But why are you so sorry when the book of Mormon that you believe is historical tells exactly why all the trauma occurred with American Indians.
It’s good to have compassion for others., Sometimes when things happen over a period of generations, decades, and centuries, they happen for a reason. When people become lifted up, proud, rebellious and and unrighteous, heavenly father has a way of knocking people down a few pegs until they realize that we are nothing without him. I will have to save this carefully as an example, look at what happened to the people that allowed our Lord to be tortured and crucified. The anger of a mob that had been manipulated by evil men ended up coming back to bite them. They are descendants suffered, because they themselves sad. Let it be upon our heads on the heads of our children, this kind of comment could get me banned so I’ll have to be careful about this. Please understand what I’m saying. Truth is not pretty. The people of Laman had finished off the people of Nephi , they went to war with each other. For a long time. Rivalries, jealousy, greed, lust for power, and general unrighteousness fed these endless wars. America right now doesn’t it? That’s why the book of Mormon is a voice of warning. It showed us what happened when a whole people became wicked, and their leaders were allowed to do whatever they wanted to do. We are in the same situation now. We owe it to this man and others who have something valuable to tell us, to listen without prejudice. Setting aside politics and racial and language and cultural divides, we should at least listen to a warning or an admonition from people who lived in the past and saw their own nation wiped out. Injustice and atrocities have always happened throughout the history of mankind. There are injustices and atrocities being carried out right now by many of our own people and our own government. We should understand the parallels. a good way towards building a bridge between the different people is to start by listening. Then, reach out a hand by getting off the sofa and doing something. We have become far too complacent in this nation. Just like every other civilization that fell. We need to start getting up and showing our faith by what we do not just what we say.
This man is a living record of a history the world does not know 😮
I just found out that old father Lehi was at the Mexico City temple dedication in 1983.
Just to think that I was there at the time!
What is this exactly?
Not likely.
@@newmanhoverd206 it's another myth fantasy story. It was written down by somebody probably some church leader. Maybe it was part of a temple dedication prayer...Therefore it just HAS to be true and it's past down year after year as another absurd myth.
I just read about that! President Hinkley welcomed Father Lehi during the dedication.
@@newmanhoverd206 you can look up the dedicatory prayer that Hinckley offered at the dedication of this temple.
This is why I laugh at the Heartland theory. You're telling me that this Heartland group of Nephites were living totally independently for a thousand years from this other massive, even more advanced civilization in Mesoamerica and nobody thought to even write about that?
Absurd! They were all one great people.
Yes, and no. They were different groups of people living in different parts of the Americas, contemporarily and independently of each other. However, they did have trade relations established with each other. Remember that the book of Mormon purpose is to be a voice of warning of what happens when you allow unrighteous behavior to overtake a civilization. North America is a covenant land. As far as we know that could extend all the way down to the other Americas but I’m pretty sure for the intent and purpose of this discussion will just say North America. Those who do not keep the covenants with the Lord will be wiped off the land. This has happened at least three times already. We as modern-day American citizens may be the fourth group to join that list. The peoples that lived in North America are not the same as the peoples that lived in Central and South America, but overtime they would have bumped into each other, of course, and established. There are old stories about the Muskogee, having interactions with the people of central and South America, who were traveling along the coast from Mexico to what is now, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and West, Florida, over near Pensacola and Apalachicola. There are things that are even contained in the names of those places that translate out to be a place where friends met. So, I understand what you are saying, but you shouldn’t laugh at any theory unless you have a better one, perhaps? These theories are not just random theories put together by a conspiracy theorists. There is actually bona fide physical evidence to support these ideas. I know this, because I have personally found evidence that supports, the idea and reality that different groups of people passed through different parts of the country previous to European contact. It’s your decision and you can choose whatever you want to, but I tell you that I believe a modified version of the heartland model would be more truthful and accurate. I do not believe that the book of Mormon event depicted took place in Mesoamerica or South America. However, I do believe that similar things happened down there, within a couple of centuries of the events that transpired in the book of Mormon. Evil has way of working around the block and spreading from one nation to another. I’ve seen the enemy do this many times in history.
I hope he goes on Ward Radio. The heartland model just makes sense and is faith strengthening.
Ward Radio rocks!!!
I am grateful for your knowledge and insights. Thank you. Oorah!!!
Make sure security is tight at this conference in September. This man is a treasure.
I'm so happy the indigenous peoples are going to be heard
Amazing!!
Speak truth! Many won’t like it, but it is important- thank you!
There is no other alternative. You shall judge them by their fruits.
I love this brother.
I appreciate chief Midegah for this interview
I respect you, believe you and thank you.
Truly it is not one or the other but both heartland and central/South America
Yes… in many ways that is true. If you listened to what he said, he told you that there were multiple connections through trade routes and intermarriage that United a lot of the different peoples in all of the Americas to one another. Over a long period of time. Remember that the book of Mormon is primarily a spiritual witness, but it is also a historical witness that mixes spiritual messages with physical evidence of the things that happened to people when they failed to listen to the Lord and their covenants, and became worldly and wicked. War broke out. People that had formally been family turned upon each other. This is what the enemy wants. He wants to even divide people within the church and keep people away from the church by creating the whole heartland versus Meso America thing. I’ve been trying to get this message across for the last couple of years to people when I talk to them about book of Mormon, history and archaeology. I’ve been trying to tell them that there are links between the different cultures that go back centuries. Personally, it is my belief that most of the events depicted in the book of Mormon itself occurred in North America. However, there are references made in the book of Mormon, that in my opinion Are pointing towards Central and South America and the people there. Also the islands of the sea. That means at that time there was knowledge had amongst the people in all of the Americas and the islands that knew of each other’s existence. I’m being really. It couldn’t be any more obvious to me, but of course I guess some people just don’t pick up on those references. The Lord himself mentioned other sheep, he had to attend to, and and then amongst the Nephites mentioned that as well, so he didn’t just say those things as random comments. He was letting his apostles and followers know that there were other people in the world that he had to find and teach the gospel to … and he kept his word. There are many legends and stories and “myths quote of a Christl man showing up in various places around the world at different times. Every human being on earth is a child of God. Every human being on earth deserves to hear his word. So yes, you are correct that things happened during the book of Mormon time and all of the Americas. They just are not mentioned in detail, throughout the book of Mormon.
Thanks for sharing this Chief. Native Americans and members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints do have a lot in common, both were forced to move out of their homes to basically uninhabitable places that we both made bloom as the rose, both were almost wiped out by the US or State governments because we were perceived as a threat to their views. We are both told what we believe and what our origins are instead of asking us. It is so important to know our own history. I see my pioneer ancestors being slandered by lies all the time but luckily I have read my ancestors journals and histories and know the truth. I have Cherokee ancestors several generations back also and would love to learn that history also. We are all the same family, we are all children of God. I am so grateful for family history because I can see just how connected we all are. The scriptures are true and are historical documents that have way more information than scholars and archeologists hypotheses and there is so much truth yet to be revealed out there to learn. “seek ye learning out of the best books by study and also by faith” as it says in D&C 109.
I don’t know that “there’s no greater tribe than the Algonquian”…I’m a citizen of Muscogee Nation. We were always a great tribe, and a large confederacy at that.
Uh-oh… break out the colors Here comes the rivalry! 😊I love the Muskogee people. My ancestors and your ancestors used to fight each other in Georgia and then eventually, they decided to be friends, thankfully. My family and the local village traded blows, and killed a number of each other’s families, and then made peace. I actually read the papers dating back to the 1700s that talk about this. in the end, the Muskogee got the short end of the stick though. We got moved to Oklahoma. I do know Muskogee and people who still live in Georgia though. They never left. They just faded into the background for a few generations and then popped back up. I have met some amazing people, in my lifetime from various tribes and nations. Muskogee, Lakota,Dineh, AniTunwiya, Catawba, Ojibwe, Seneca, and Yuchi. That doesn’t even count the people I have met from Samoa and New Zealand. The place where my family lived, some of my people were buried alongside some of their people long ago in Coweta. My European ancestors who settled in that area, asked permission to bury their dead in the same area, and it was granted. To me that is an amazing thing. The daughter of the local chief and her husband were buried beneath a broad pile of stones. All the rest of the people were buried in regular graves, although some were just marked with a stone or some large rocks. Then other generations of my family were buried with headstones. There are all people buried there from all over the place. Soldiers from both sides, and the Americans Civil War are buried there. It’s a shame that we cannot take a page from that lesson and be united in life, the same way that we are reunited in the spirit world.
I hear the inner struggle this man is having as he stands with one foot in Ephriam and the other in Manasseh.
I hear the voices of his fathers both decrying the destruction and replacement in the land of promise of their decendents, in fulfillment of prophesy, and rejoicing in the restoration of their decendents as prophesied.
Hopefully he does not become blinded by his pride much like the Pharisees and Pharisees & Sadducees did when the message of salvation was restored by Jesus.
He is right, the Lord does allow us to walk different paths for our own stregth and the strength of the Church, IF we then fuly surrender our pride and turn our hearts over to Him.
Have you been in contact with Rod Meldrum?
I am very interested in this, is there a resource that ties all these histories together? It is so beautiful I think many others would love to read it!
I have long believed the heartland vs mesoamerican debate is mute. The archaeological record shows civilizations all over both North and South America.
I for one revere the indigenous peoples of the Americas. I hate the evils your people suffered at the hands of those who were selfish and greedy, those who treated your people as if they were lesser humans. Instead of treating you with respect, and learning from you, they did just the opposite. Now here we all are together. There’s no going back. But I hope things are getting better. I believe it is getting better. Many people respect your people more and more. And I for one admire the work you’re doing to bring your beliefs into the light. I really believe, that the more we (outsiders) can understand your beliefs, the more respect will be given.
I go by what Joseph Smith and archaeological evidence shows, that the vast majority of the Book of Mormon lands are in the Heartland of the U.S., with Lamanites traveling south throughout Mexico, Central and South America. Ultimately, we are ALL brothers and sisters and children of Heavenly Father, struggling our way through life.
This whole story is awe inspiring to me.
When Kevin Costner did the documentary about the American Indians in 1990's, it opened my eyes to what was in North America. I had no idea as to the major civilizations that were in North America that rivaled the civilzations in South America and southern Mexico. At that time I started questioning the typical MesoAmerica narrative regarding the Book of Mormon. As others started to come forward it made more and more sense that much of the Book of Mormon took place in North America. No doubt there was much in terms of trade, movement, etc. in all of NA & SA.
Thank you for your service I'm sorry for the loss of your son through tragic circumstances. I love your testimony of trues you speak. One thing that you speak about is the word Mormon or the name Mormon. The reason that I do not call myself a Mormon Is because I am a Latter-Day Saint. My father in heaven gave us a name Saint and no other name shall we be called by. Also when we call ourselves a name that name recognizes our Master. So who is our Master and what name did he give The Latter-Day Saints, the name Saint. So I do this in honor of my God and that's why I do not take upon me the name Mormon. That does not take away from the greatness of Mormon. It just means that the god that he revered is the god I Rebecca
Will the conference be virtual as well?
How do other Anishinaabe receive all of this? The Medicine Givers I've met are all dismissive, or outright hostile towards the notion of the Book of Mormon and what it has to say. I think if Chief Midegah can rally the other Chiefs, Medicine Givers and Elders to his position, that will generate a voice loud enough to force more serious consideration by the educated classes and scholars.
I can tell you some things that I have seen. I won’t mention the name of the tribe or nation, but I can tell you that I have seen it firsthand… There is one particular place in eastern America, where there are a lot of members of the church, who are also members of a local tribe. There are quite a few people in the tribe who are hostile towards the church and the book of Mormon. I mean really hostile. They actively speak out against the church and the book of Mormon, and they say it is nonsense and false, etc. Ironically these are the same people who go along with, and believe the “model “of how their civilization evolved, and where they came from that has been told to them by archaeologists and anthropologist, who, in my opinion, have created their own false narrative to support the doctrine of manifest destiny, and so on, etc. I’ve run into this more than once. Keeping my personal and spiritual beliefs out, I have seen archaeologists, government officials, and even tribal officials stand directly in the way of missionaries going out onto a reservation and proselyting. There are some things that change and other things that never will. There will always be opposition to truth, and there will always be opposition to the gospel. No matter where you go in the world. There are people that I have met in my lifetime, who were members of an indigenous tribe or nation that did not even know their own history, or any of their own language Chief had said it had been beaten out of them over generations. This is exactly what manifest destiny and other false principles of aggression have done. They have destroyed the cultural memory of an entire people. However, there were some people such as the wisdom, keepers, and people and historians that kept the stories and the things Quietly hidden away and continued to teach these things to people privately, and did not tell any of the stories to American settlers or colonists, because they knew it would get them into hot water. Anytime, a cultural or spiritual movement has been born in any nation, it was very quickly stomped flat by a group of people that felt threatened by it. I’ve seen this firsthand.
@@csluau5913 I agree. I served in Utah, and one of my areas was in Roosevelt. I had been with one companion for two weeks, and in a threesome for a month. Over there, we had been given a referral for a young girl on a nearby reservation, and so we dropped by, the family didn't answer, and we left. About 1-2 weeks later, just before the baptism service of a different investigator, we were inquired for by a drunk Native American. We talked with him after the service, and he warned us that we were noticed there and to not enter the reservation without another Native American being with us, because we were white. Turns out one of the other elders in our companionship was part-Native American, which the guy didn't realize. So he told me and my other companion to be careful. Honestly, it was kind of odd, let alone creepy, that word had gotten to them about a baptism that was taking place in another ward. Not sure how that happened. But I was out of there after that transfer was done anyway. It does make me wonder how they knew all of that, though.
Does Chief Midegah plan to come to Utah or Las Vegas? I would love to learn more.
I'm sorry for the loss of your son Chief 😢 I would love to learn more. If you feel inspired, please put together a book or class that can be shared 🙏 it's my understanding that just as there are things that are too sacred to share from the temple ordinances, there are parts of the native American history and culture that the natives have kept to themselves in the past. I do feel like we are coming up on the time when all knowledge will be revealed and people will be responsible to discern for themselves and it will be the great sifting of the wheat and the tares prior to Christ coming. Personally, I honor the beautiful history of the natives and would love to learn as much as I can from your rich heritage. Just as we must thank the Jews for the Bible, we must thank the Nephites and Lamanites for the Book of Mormon. The covenant originated with Israel and by the grace of God has been extended to those who join the church through baptism today. But we must always remember where it came from and know that the last shall be first and the first shall be last.
Trying to see your point of view and i think I’m getting it. Mormon is not considered “ shameful” just confusing. When people hear “Mormon church” myself included, we wonder what it is and what they believe. When the proper name which is the original name is used it tells us right away who we believe in. Very important. Thank you for sharing. I get your frustration. People have a hard time pricing loose from their cherished beliefs,especially if they learned them in college. Love to know more about that cave and where the first couple are buried. Fascinating stuff.
It is awful the treatment of the native Americans the things we do in ignorance sometimes greed and lust
God's beacon shines brighter when the chosen and stars gather to help guide the way. I see that light in you. Please help humanity find peace. -paul
I've been studying the DNA some and my conclusion is that the Northern tribes like the Anishinaabe are possibly remnants of Jaredites, and the Gulf tribes such as the Cherokee and Creek could be remnants of Lamanites. I would like to hear any else's input.
So many amazing things!! Thank you. God is in control and when the time is right-his timing, not any one nation or people-all things will be brought together. He Is leading the church and His Prophet. This land was always HIS land and will be used to accomplish HIS purposes when covenant promises and curses are fulfilled.
I'll listen. Keep talking
keep these video coming, im 64 , its the first time i hear of the true history of a part of my family, my great grandmother lost her status by marying a white guy. i and my family know nothing of our people
beautiful !!! Chief is a great man!!!
I believe and I love it!! I always knew this
This so fasinating to listen to .
Protect this man!
I am just wondering if there are any books written about indian history according to the indians.
I too am sorry you have been disrespected. What we are taught in schools has no bearing on reality it would seem. I could listen for hours. I have never found history so fascinating. The Book of Mormon is coming even more alive to me listening to you speak.
It happened just where Joseph Smith said it did. A question that I often ask : What happened to the Gadiantons ?
1. Were they destroyed ?
2. Did they disband and form an inter tribal secret society ?
3. Did they form a separate tribe ?
The gadiantons still exist on a GRAND scale! It doesnt refer to a tribe, the term refers to secret very corrupt societies, which are currently the heads of nations trying to usher in Globalism, a one world government. Their goal is to bring oppression to the whole world and stamp out Christianity!
"You will own NOTHING, you will eat bugs, and be happy."
Those are the current goals of the WEF, for every nation.
Ask yourself this question and see what answer you come up with… What happens when a predator has nothing left to prey upon? They turn upon each other. The Lord has even pointed this out previously. Wicked people will very quickly turn upon other wicked people, and take them as a prey. I mean, it’s all over the book of Mormon, and in the Bible. It’s how the tribes became scattered. They became wicked. The Lord allowed one wicked group of people to attack the other because they broke their covenant with him. The robbers probably consumed each other and themselves into death and died in their sins. Just reasoning it out.
Joseph Smith guessed?that Quiriguia in Guatamala likely was Zarahemla in 1843 Times&Seasons ,found by a discoverer Stephenson the year before,only thing no bones or chariots found under there,only Mayan ruins