NEW Suzuki GSX-S1000GX Vs NEW Moto Guzzi Stelvio | Which One Should You Buy?
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- čas přidán 16. 11. 2023
- How does the Suzuki GSX-S1000GX Sport Crossover compare with the latest Moto Guzzi Stelvio ADV touring bike? At first glance, they seem to be mis-matched, but in fact they're both are larger versions of roadsters already available in their ranges. Suzuki raised and enlarged the GSX-S1000GT for the GX and Moto Guzzi used the V100 Mandello as the Stelvio's base. These bikes offer the potential sport tourer rider more comfort, leg room and some premium features not available on any other bikes in their range. But which is right for you? It may not be as cut and dried as you thought, as there is a lot of crossover between these motorcycles. Is the Suzuki GSX-S1000GX really worthy of the "premium" tag? And is the Stelvio really dirt-worthy?
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I have the Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello Aviazione Navale and I can tell you that the engine is absolutely phenomenal. I can imagine the the Stelvio would be great adventure bike.Good power and economy plus easy handling. It would be my choice.
I am very envious! Particularly like the Avaizione Navale edition - very classy looking. I can't seem to find anyone who has anything but glowing things to say about the MG V100. If it goes as well as it looks, then you must be extremely happy. Cheers.
How many kilometers do you ride with V100? Any problems? I decided buy Stelvio but my yearly distanc i aprox. 15000 km, so is it solid bike?
The Guzzi for me. Shaft drive, better low down torque, 19" front wheel and longer range. Looks stunning as well.
I'm fortunate to have the Suzuki gsxs 1000f and the guzzi v100 love them both but very different
Now there's a pair of lovely bikes. V100 keeps tugging at me. Very different as you say. Cheers.
In my opinion, both are appealing to me, I like both classic and futuristic styling, and I also like both V-twin and In-line 4 sound. I'm gonna buy both if I were you.
Nice and objective! Rare to see as most testers seem to miss their own bias. I have been riding since 1968 and owned Harley
Yamaha, Kawasaki as well as 2 Guzzies. Each model has to be analyzed as separate from Brand itself. Im on a Guzzi V85 tt now and enjoy much the "different" nature of Guzzi from the "what everyone rides" of some other brands. I also can adjust valves in 1.5 hrs. Shaft drive is a big pluses well. For me the mid range punch as more of a thing than the high rpm horsepower. But, then again Im' not a young man any more. Greetings from the Texas Pan Handle.
"I"m not a young man, anymore" - that makes two of us :-) I value the real word power too, although I do like a little rip once in a while. Bet you're still enjoying the 70-80s down there in Texas? Nice place for all year riding? Cheers. Thanks for the feedback.
im not a young man, i have really enjoyed the v85tt, love the bike, but just traded it in on the stelvio, just wanted a little more horse power, that way the motor will operate more in the middle of the power band instead of the top of it. cant wait to spin it around, after winter.
Don't get lost on the electronic suspension, it's not how it performs that makes it better, it's the ease with which you can change the settings. Saying that, Ducati's Skyhook is damn good, but you can still dial in a good manual suspension to great effect.
There is no comparison when you get on a Guzzi and ride. Oozes character and fun.
Entertaining comparison. The idea of the Stelvio is growing on me. I look forward to your ride review. Nice work. 👍
I've owned a V85TT for some years now but its time to chop it in. Why? Whilst I love the bike, its soul, it's road presence and having a sly look in shop windows as I pass, it has been a little underpowered. Having had both the 750 and 800 VFRs I've found it a bit breatless at speed. You have to thrash it to overtake and the fuel economy drops through the floor over 80. I'd like a bike able to 'make progress' when needed. Also I've found it a bit noisy, even simply cruising at legal speeds and having put on a taller screen. So this review is both timely and welcome. The MG is well screwed together, nothing has fallen off save for the kickstand sensor coming loose, fixed with an allen key and some threadlock. But when I can I'm going to get a test ride on both, see whether heart, head or wallet wins out. Thanks for taking the trouble to make this.
Let me know what you decide after you've taken them both out and had a chance to sample them. I think it will be a tough choice, but with more power the liquid cooled Stelvio might be the bike that the V85 wasn't at higher speeds. Cheers.
In the states, Guzzi has almost no dealer network at all. Beautifull bike though.
Think they're in the process of rectifying that. More Guzzi dealers are on the radar apparently. One has just sprung up near me too, so hopefully that's part of the North American plan. Cheers.
Suzuki reliability 👍👍👍, It is good that Suzuki is moving forward with more bikes, out of GT, SX and V-Strom, I think I would take V-strom for it's comfort and better upright setting position.
Riding long distance, you need comfort than just speed.
Thanks for sharing
Old school Suzuki reliability goes out the window with the new higher redline and higher RPM power range.
@@briangc1972 its actually a lower redline than gsx r1000 and that bike has been around forever with the same engine
@@shivamarya5225 Funny, when Aprilia did that for the Tuareg 660 all the Aprilia haters scoffed at that reasoning.
I put 15,000 miles on my 2023 Vstrom 1050 in 6 months. While I agree the seating position is quite good, the stock seat is abysmal. I bought a Corbin seat for it, and while it did look better and was easier to remove and instal, ie no tools needed, it wasn’t any more comfortable. I am contemplating over the winter what to do about the seat problem. Sure wish my 1980 GS1000G seat fit on it. I can sit on that all day.
I live in Ontario Canada.. I have a 2020 katana...I can tell you I have no noise out of my "k5" engine.. I have ordered the GX and should have it by April. People complain about the price but you have to look at the value and that Showa suspension is worth 3 k Canadian. Yes the GX is down on torque but it's a "sport" tourer bike not an adventure bike. With that engine, suspension and everything else you get it will be a great bike I'm sure.. keep the revs up and it will not disappoint....
All great points. Different strokes for different folks. Cheers.
All are nice bikes, but the Stelvio is very nice. Enjoyed the video and RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
Thanks 👍
Both awesome machines. I for one am glad that the Guzzi doesn't include semi active suspension. This would add a couple of thousand dollars to the MSRP and introduce the probability of future expensive complications. I'd pick the Guzzi for stunning good looks and character with more performance than this rider can use.
It's certainly a tough choice, and one which would be harder still if Suzuki added a shaft drive. I'm pretty sure Guzzi will be offering a S version with the semi active suspension - more for road touring, rather than off road. Thanks for the feed back.
Guzzi wins in my book with Shaft Drive- no faffing around with oiling,adjusting chains at the end of a long ride. Adaptive cruise control/radar is brilliant . I have it in my Subaru XV.
Can you get a top box on the Suzuki? You can on the Guzzi.
100 Kays range on the Guzzi seals it for me. Stelvio deluxe.
Yes that's an appealing bike. Price with all mod cons sound reasonable too. Pretty sure semi-active suspension is on the way later next year. Cheers.
Honda, Yamaha and kawaski, had them all. They all the same, skriming engine, adrenalin and no peace. Then I bought a Guzzi. It's like entering a new world. The ride, the filing and the joy. Guzzi have the mysterious soul, the japnese bike don't know what is. Dont know about the new Mandello and Stelvio? They may loose som of it, trying to be more "civilians " (pls. forgive my bad spelling)
I test rode a Mandello and bought a Suzuki GSX S1000GT+, the GX model is now on my radar. I liked the Mandello but didn't find the engine very exciting. You couldn't say that about the Suzuki.
Thanks for sharing. Yes the Suzuki is going to be the more exciting ride for sure. I rode a katana and the engine is a delight. Cheers.
how was the low rev torgue on both motorcycles? was the difference huge? do you miss the low rev torgue of the gucci now that you have the gt?
@@gerokatseros I have run my 2024 Stelvio down to low as 1500 to 2000 rpm in high gear , smoothly without lugging it. Ride is smooth and I have had it up to 143 Mph.
Besides, the Stelvio is Much Much Better Looking!
These are right at the top of my list. Love the look of the v100, but the Stelvio is perhaps the more practical. The Suzi looks like it would be great fun to ride, but lack of top box and being chain drive marks it down. I recently went from a GSX650F to a R1200GS and im liking the ADV/twin/shaft drive setup so if i had the cash to splash it would be the Stelvio for me🤘 (perhaps a future semi active suspension version)
No lack of top box for the suzuki.
@user-gy2qi1ow5b The info I've seen is it'll have panniers/side cases, but no top box. (Aftermarket ones may be available)
V Twin easy winner for me
Both look like great bikes. I have a Katana with the K5 engine and don't find it as smooth as the engine in my Versys. The Versys better look out though because the Guzzi is very tempting.
Thanks for sharing.
I really would love to see the topcase designs of those 2 bikes. A guzzi eagle logo at the back of stelvio topcase Would look very handsome.. ?!
Only the Guzzi:-)
Waiting on an NTX model of the new Stelvio. Throw in a 7 gallon fuel tank and the active suspension from the Mandello and I'm sold. I currently own and ride a 2012 Stelvio NTX and the weight is welcomed havibg to deal with not only Wyoming winds, but also passing semi trucks. All I'd like is a cruising range of at least 300 miles. I get way more miles per tank in my NTX than both of these while feeling completely planted on the road, yet wierdly nimble.
I believe it. The weight low down like the Vtwin is on the Griso works for me too.
Both are very interesting. As a v85tt rider, my choice for the Guzzi is obvious. But only for the shaft drive. As an all year, north European rider (moto-instructor) a chain is a negative for me. That said, this video really questions my dillema. As I am actually torn between these two new bikes. I read the comments from people from the USA about the dealership problem. But here in Amsterdam my Guzzi dealer is around the corner and maintenance on a Guzzi is simple, fast and cheap. This all said, by next summer I have to choose. You bet I will test ride them both.
It's a great dilemma to have though. Two lovely bikes offering the same practicality is a different flavour. Good luck, and leave me comment when you have decided and purchased. Let me know which one and why chose it. Cheers.
I'm considering suzuki's offering tried and tested power plant
In terms of engine I prefer the Suzuki 4 cylinders engine. However I prefer the Guzzi shaft transmission if I have to choose and especially if the Guzzi is less expensive (because of a lower embedded technologies I care less). Nice video and many thanks.
Thanks for feedback. Cheers.
I find the GSX-S1000GX a very appealing bike, one which I'd consider selling my FJR1300 for... however, the MSRP of $18500 is an automatic stop . Guess I'll have to wait for someone to buy it, ride it and then put it up f/s at the end of the season.
That is the way to go! Get the first few services done for you too ;-)
Why does the motoguzzi HP and Torque curves not cross at 5250?
For me the Moto Guzzi.
Guzzi for me, but the Suzuki is a darn good machine.
The Guzzi ,I have a Bandit 1250 2009 so weight is weight
So Suzuki decided to do the same thing with the gx as BMW has been doing with the s1000XR since 2016.
Yes, but with a smoother engine.
I have no problem with chain/sprocket final drive but, no standard center stand? Silly. Touring bike with no heated grips and a small two-hand required windscreen? Silly. Still . . . I’d buy the Suzuki.
Where is the luggage? And eval of luggage??
It would be interesting to know why all three colors go to Europe, two colors to Canada and only one to the States. I've researched it some and haven't found a solid answer. Why not send all colors to every country/continent?
It's a strange one, but they do that with some of their other models too. Perhaps availability will close the gap and we'll all get access to the same. The Matt Green one is certainly a looker. Cheers.
I’m always amazed whenever I see people buying motorcycles from a spec sheet! I buy the bike I WANT! If I don’t want it I don’t buy it.
Agree. Unfortunately, a lot of dealers don't allow test rides without putting a deposit down to buy. Spec sheets, looks, previews, ride reviews and word of mouth are all valuable tools for evaluating a bike. Cheers.
These bikes look like they are out of a Jetson's catoon compared to my 40 year old BMW airhead which is more akin to something out of the Flintstone's Bedrock. I am sure both these machines are beautiful to ride but I do not ride enough to justify that kind of money and I suspect they would not give me any more joy than my old BMW. Besides, I can better reach the ground on my old bike. But if you're going to give me one.... the MG twin would be the one.
Chuckled at your comparison to the jetsons vs flintsones - that resonates! Hard to beat an BMW airhead. If I'm ever in the position to give you one, then you have a deal ;-)
The torment of choice!
To many great bikes to choose from😅
Again Hart rules the brain,do I by an ornament or a safe bet reliable work horse!
With the new Guzzi engine and improved reliability, you might get two for one. But best let the first model year happen before dipping the toe in. Cheers.
if you like bikes from 90s then MG, for other cases Suzuki :)
Two new models, so hard to decide. I guess I'd have to go with the blonde! 🤣
The Guzzi’s new Water cooled platform is still not proven, and lousy dealer network,I’ll take the Suzuki all day 🇯🇵
Yes, it's still young and I doubt there are any serious mileages yet. Looking at the reviews, recalls and such, the only real issue I have found with the V100/Griso engine is some rare oil weeps on the right hand side of the engine which is fixed on the first service. Whether it was a substandard supplier or poor torque check, I'm not sure. But so far, so good apparently. But yes, Suzuki tend to be bulletproof. Apart from tires, brakes, one valve check, oil, and filters, my 2014 has been bulletproof. Cheers.
I agree. It's a bit early to take the leap on it, at least for me. I imagine Guzzi are pretty confident as they've pretty much got the brands success pinned to this motor. Time will tell.
Lots of specs and details, when it's all said and done the Guzzi is the naked ballerina dancing in my mind.
Love your reviews, but don’t agree on this one. Personally I wouldn’t consider a 17” front wheel because I ride on dirt frequently so can’t see these bikes as similar even if I try 🤷♂️. I adore the Guzzi ❤, it’s a sensual piece of art. But I wouldn’t buy it because of my dirt focused needs and preferences, way too heavy. If they went through the bike redesigning every nut bolt and component loosing 25kg, then we really do have a machine to covet.
Thanks for sharing. I'm a dirt rider too, and hear you about weight. If I were to buy either of these bikes, it would be for touring alone. The Griso gives a little more room than the Mandello. Cheers.
Riders rave about MG looks and character, but when it's time to pull out the wallet, they'll get the more practical bike. Or at least the smart ones will.
I don’t know why you’re comparing a dual sport adventure bike to a sport touring bike not the same thing
True, in that they're not marketed as the same category, but as I mention to great length in the video, they are on many peoples list as a tourer, as they will be used primarily for that function: road touring. I for one, would look at both of these bikes. Being a dirt rider too, I wouldn't ever seriously consider taking anything over 350lbs off road. The other thing you have to factor in is that they are not what they are marketed as; they are best categorized by their use. The previous Stelvio was rarely used significantly off road by most owners. It was used as a tourer. Cheers thanks for the feedback.
This new Suzuki seems very close to the Kawasaki Versys 1000 SE LT+ with the only apparent difference being 30 more horsepower. Kawasaki could easily rectify that if they desired. Given the approx $18,500 USD price, I don’t believe it will sell well. Not many want a chain driven high end tourer. The Versys is a fantastic bike that very few buy, and has very low resale.
I also don’t think there is much of a Suzuki vs Moto Guzzi choice with buyers. Flashy people buy Moto Guzzi, Ducati, and Aprilia. Practical people buy Japanese, and practical, value oriented people buy Suzukis - just a biased opinion. Personally, I’d never consider any of the above Italian brands. I value reliability.
I just seen stat on morotcycle maintenance cost over time..check it out .was surprising on some bikes.
Suzuki *rolloverkeyboardwithhead* VS Moto Guzzi STELVIO 🤔
Shaft drive Guzzi any day
Moto Guzzi
Stelvio Will be my next Girlfriend ❤
NO - I don't consider neither of THESE bikes - Suzuki will its' 4 syl. cost a fortune to service ( valve job...) + the 17'' front wheel = not good, and the Guzzi - WHAT'S the point with THIS one ??? - There is T85TT already. It has ENOUGH power, it has about same "off-road capabilities" and less thirsty ( 4.5 L/100km )...+ you CAN service it with knife and fork..... 🤷♂🤷♂
Ffs Suzuki still using that near twenty year old k5 engine , more power please
Lot of other choices out there with more power.
The Stelvio does have active suspension.....
Do your homework.
Hi, Janzzen9095: when this video was created, the Stelvio had no active on offer, although it's v100 sibling did. I correctly surmised that it would be eventually offered with it. At the time though, it came with radar, but not active suspension. Glad to hear they've got it in the pipeline now. Cheers.
Reading specs and spewing hype is no bike test. 19:50 minutes worth of Blah Blah but some good video.
Where on the thumbnail or the title did it indicate it was a bike test or ride review? You might want to read descriptions of videos before you "blah blah".