"Panzer III in Africa" Buddy Build with Hamilkar Barkas Update 1
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2020
- Today we look at my build process for improving this Dragon Panzer III H of the Afrika Korps.
Check out Hamilkar Barkas' Video Update:
• "Panzer III in Africa"...
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It's amazing how an aftermarket part (mantlet) fits the kit better than the actual Dragon parts!
Good build reviews, looking forward to more from both of you 👍
Wow! I am really excited! Great project what you are doing there. Very nice details on your Panzer III. Keep on having fun! I am looking forward to your continuation! Happy modelling, John
Great work....looking forward to the painting and weathering tips in the next video....keep up the good work...thx
Lookin good cant wait for the next part!
With a little work Dragon kits are so amazing! Excellent build! 👍👍
Cool buddy build project with Michael from "Hamilkar Barkas". A great Panzer III with many fine details.
Very nice the PE-parts and the scratch build completions!
Even if your and Michael's kit have each their problem areas, they both look really good.
Nice idea with this Buddy build series. Have a nice weekend. Joachim
Awesome job. Thanks for doing this. I love watching your content. Please keep them coming. Cheers from Newfoundland!
Last summer. I built the early production version of this kit #6641. Like you, I started off thinking that it was going to be a fun enjoyable build. But Nope! Dragon wasn't going to let that happen. I ran into the exact same issues as you did. In addition I had a lot of fit issues getting the upper hull components together, including a hideous gap between the engine deck and fighting compartment. Inexcusable on Dragons part., considering the $70 price tag. Frustrating kit to build overall. So anyone reading... If you're going to buid this kit, bring your patience, you're gonna need it. Thanks for posting Evan. Now I know that I wasn't the only one that had difficulty building this kit.
Want a fun build do Tamiya...OK you may need to add some details or replace some of the tools, but at least what there is, is OK and fits perfectly...
@@guidor.4161 I couldn't agree more!! Anytime I build a kit from Dragon or Trumpeter, I feel like I need to build a Tamiya. Just to remind myself why I enjoy modelling. I'd gladly pay extra for aftermarket parts on a Tamiya kit rather than continue to pay high prices for building nightmares. After all... What good is the extra details if none of them fit correctly?! Thank man
@@guidor.4161 In my opinion Tamiya is the Japanese word for fun model building👍👍
@@jonfoisy1237 Despite all the issues I'd still go with Dragon. Tamiya's offering is so outdated and lacks so much detail there really isn't a worthwhile comparison.
Great work. I've seen Hamilkar Barkas video before and it's nice to see the different.
It was a pleasure to watch your video.
Thanks a lot and Greetings from Cologne.
Markus
Top quality modelling again, your attention to detail and patience levels are off the chart......supreme.
Thank you!
This will indeed be an epic build for sure!!!
Hi Ev, great job mate, really looking forward to this project with you and Mike. Looking forward to your next update. Hope you are all OK and your family are all OK. Stay safe matey
Great build. When I dend things like fenders and mud gaurds I warm them up in warm water so they bend easier annd aren't as prone to cracking. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Thank you for the advice there!
Interesting video! Thank you!
Amazing!!
Good video mate, keep up the great work 👍
Here's my shameless plug for Value Gear. I love his add-on stowage gear, Especially for Stugs and Shermans, where you often see a massive amount of stuff piled on the rear deck. It adds that 'lived-in look', easily and well.
I do have some StuG and Sherman stuff from him. It is excellent!
Great Panzer , superb work !
Great video Evan. Lot's of useful information on the Panzer.III. I just have to build some of mine now.
Panzer III are always the best!
Great video !!!!! And I see what you’re saying about the Dragon kits after 2010 I was building a dragon Stug IV last production and they literally have me cut the entire upper superstructure apart to get it to fit
Omg i have that kit in the stash... how bad is it?
Efe yiğit
The kit goes together pretty good but when you get to the upper superstructure they ask you to cut an armor piece that hangs down on the bottom that has bolts in it but it doesn’t tell you if they want you to cut off the bolts or cut off the entire piece .... When you get a chance look at the instructions and you’ll see what I mean I just put it back on the shelf
@@Android-rz8mb well thats good to hear. And how do you deal with the ds tracks? I've heard that paint peels off from them.
Efe yiğit
I never use the tracks that come with the kit I always lay out the extra money for the Friulmodel metal tracks ..... but with the DS tracks use primer first like krylon or Tamiya rattle can
@@Android-rz8mb noted. Will probably go for tamiya red primer. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Hi, it's nice work as usual. I also watched the Hamilkar Barkas's video. Actually, I found a little difference that's the way of building
between yours. It's very interesting. Anyway, thank you so much !!
Thank you my fellow panzermeister :D
Interesting comparison with Michaels approach... you both know how to superdetail your models!! I'm looking forward to following the builds from both of you and maybe pick up an idea or three.. :) :)
Belle maquette 👍
panzer 3s do have a wicked look about them
When Dragon is is on they’re on, when Dragon is off it’s off the rails!
Yeah, I remember I really liked their Maus when it came out in 1993, whereas their first Nashorn from about the same time was just for the spares bin...It seems they got really good in the late '90s, but nowadays some of their stuff while not being totally horrible is way to expensive for what you get (e.g. this Pz III).
Nice build.
I'm going to go back and watch my tauchpanzer III video now. You're giving me flashbacks. It looks good though. Only critique I have is the antenna should be tapered. I stretch sprue and match it on my cutting mat to a 1/35 2 meters I have marked off.
Adam, I wanted to thank you on doing your video, I think If it wasn't for your video, I'd have walked away from finishing this frustrating kit.
Nice video Panzermeister.....!!!!
I liked your video. You generally make good points and get right too it. And I have built this kit. I am glad to see it wasn't just me. I tend to avoid DML at all costs nowadays. Just so many better options.
Relaxing build & DML two words that don't go together 🤣
Great vids as always 😀👍keep it up
When I was making models, Dragon was one of the best out there. Must have changed since 2012
Yeah, I have lots of dragon stuff from 2000-2010 era and it's great. But after that period it ends up like this kit.
Chuckling,,, Good job..
"That's why it's called Modeling!!"
Dragon peaked about 2000..
Built this kit as my first model since building in the 1970's. Used to build early Tamiya. Wow what a difficult build. See Adam Mann's video, Tauchpanzer 3, he had many of the same problems.
So I've taken that kit off my shopping list. Sounds like you had a horrible time.
Ended up with a nice looking Pz3 at the end of it though - looking forward to seeing it painted and such. And maybe a figure? You madman. Great vid, thanks for uploading and sharing.
Nice...perfect timing on this build you guys. I just finished the basic build up of Dragon 6954 Panzer III, Ausf. J. (early) I have been mulling over my paint scheme for a DAK version. TahDah!...will be following closely on both you and Hamilkar on what you do with these guys. Any touch on authentic things to keep in mind when building a III for this deployment would be appreciated. Looks gorgeous so far as does Hamilkar's.
Thank you Ken :)
Sorry to hear that post-2010 Dragon still continues to slide downhill- but great job scratchbuilding! We can call it scratchbuilding right? That's about as much scratchbuilding as I do! 😂 All the modifications looked really cool and I learned a few new things about DAK vehicles that I didn't know. Thanks for this post build review!
I only buy Dragon kits, and I’ve never built one that fit poorly like people are saying, but I guess looking back all the kits I have made have been from 2008-2012
Fantastic review, buddy! How long did that build take you? Can't wait for the paint and weathering...
I think we both picked tricky kits here, one is old and the other one had lazy developers :) You did a stunning job here and the little changes like stowage racks etc. spice this thing up and even without paint one can tell already that this thing belongs into the North African desert!
Very nice job from both of you. Changing the topic slightly, may I ask which airbrushes you use? What can you recommend? Thanks in advance!
I use a Badger 105 on this thing. It's very good.
Cheers! I use a cheap China airbrush by Rowi or i go for better ones, like an Evolution by H&S or the HP C Plus by Iwata for detail work.
The quality of Dragon kits really are lacking when considering their often high price imo
I agree. I always do a lot of research on a Dragon kit before I buy it now.
@@Panzermeister36 is that dragons panzer 3 5cm ausf H late, no6642, year 2011
I think so. 6642 sounds like it from my memory.
It’s a pity a lot of the bigger companies have skipped on their Quality Control :/ I’m sure you will do it justice with your paint job 👍🏻🇦🇺
to paint it you can use the two new Tamiya colors released some weeks ago, xf91 and xf92
I've actually already painted it. My videos are usually filmed a little earlier than you see them...editing takes time. However I've still bought those paints to review them.
Awesome!
Waiting for the review too!
DS tracks aren't that bad to work with. For a fast build they come in handy. Hence I like them a lot. I 've been modelling for over 40 years it is a matter of choice.
There are other problems though. Some batches of DS tracks melt with enamel thinner, which is common in all enamel mud effects by AK, MiG Productions, AMMO, Wilder, etc. DS can also break down over time and disintegrate on finished models, which I have seen.
What do you think about the new Rye Field Model Panzer III? Does it stand up to the quality and/or accuracy of dragons kits?
My version of the same kit is completely different! I got magic tracks instead of ds tracks and also my idler wheel photo etch pieces came as a single piece.
Well you got lucky :)
Hey, I'm the one who makes bad models haha, you've done a good job with what you were given though, great job man
I guess the only kits that you can glue w/o dry-fitting are Tamiya ones...;-)
Yes :)
Are you doing separate dioramas, this should be good. Looking forward to the paint scheme. AFRIKA CORP the first professional army. True warriors, US TANK TROOPS, in DESERT STORM carried ROMMELS picture in their vehicles. THE DESERT FOX. 🌴🌴🌴
you really didn't need to call attention to ContinentaU. My OCD is kicking in now....
It's a minor thing, but now I am the same....I can't ignore it once I know it's there!
Are you going to finish this or just make and put on the shelf with rest that you have not finished.
I will finish it :)
I gave up on Dragon kits years ago, after building 3 or 4 of them. I have since been building Academy, Meng, Takom, Tamiya, and yes (and you want to talk about needing patience) Miniart. Those Miniart interior kits are not to be trifled with, you cannot rush through them.
zulerodoeht329 What is wrong with Dragon?
Their recent kits are terrible.
Panzermeister36 thanks! Good to know.
If the date on the box is 2010 or more recent, don't buy the kit :)
@@tonyromano6220 Nothing, I just don't care for them. I do not own an Apple computer either, some people swear by Apple products, some people don't. Fair enough.
The video is great Panzermeister.
22:29 " by launching tiny pieces of styrene across my room , i was able to make these track pins "
Hey Panzermeister - what brands do you recommend for 1:35 WW2 German vehicles? Academy? Eduard? Opinion greatly appreciated.
Well, I usually love Dragon. But only their pre-2010 kits. After 2010 their kits end up like this Pz III. So you have you check the date on the box!
@@Panzermeister36
Good to know. I've only ever built the imperial series DAK Panzer 4 f, but I'd like to build a panzer 3, 4, and panther with the magic tracks.
@@Panzermeister36
What was the wire you used for the headlights? I couldn't make out what you said..
Copper wire that I have from an old set of broken headphones.
Much appreciated panzermeister. Getting back into it after three decades away from it. Back then it was all Tamiya for the quality kits - times have changed....
Why is the Pz.iii had some pins on the engine grills?
They are spare track pins. My reference photos showed that the crew stuck them in there so I did the same.
Oh. Good reference!
Nice video mate, btw can you please recommend me a book with some basic steps for newbie? Thank you
Welcome to my life with the academy/air fix tiger I lol
If everything fit perfectly, I would have no fun at all.
Hi so if i was to buy a panzer 3 kit what one should i get ????? thank you
The Dragon Panzer III J is very good. It's from the time before Dragon got bad. Also, the new TAKOM Panzer III M is supposed to be great.
@@Panzermeister36 www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Military_Vehicles/pz-kpfw-iii-ausf-j-initial-prod-early-prod-2-in-1/DML00006954/product.php
Yes that kit. It's flawless as it is the original boxing, so there are not stupid instruction errors or random sprues thrown in the box.
The rear plate issue you could have just filed that area
I could have filed it or I could have trimmed the other side. 50/50 and trimming was easier. I guess I was also concerned about filing it non-uniformly.
I have their old Italy Panther and the first thing I did after opening the box was order Friul. The DS is such trash
SOMEDAY HAD TO SAY SOMETHING WASNT ME MISTER BIG BOY CALLED DRAGON DID IT TELL IT TO THE JUDE KID
Dang both you and NightShift are destroying manufacturers in both your videos this week
They gotta get gud. So many kits are just expensive garbage these days...
To be honest, Dragon kits really haven't been up to the standard for a good while now. They're too concerned nowadays with throwing together kits using various sprues from newer and older kits or non-Dragon parts (ie: SU-76i and numerous T-34/85 kits) and tossing them out on the market as a new release at a higher price, after cutting costs. Lately, I've tried spending my money on other brands like Meng, Takom and RFM to name a few. For awhile, Dragon ruled the WWII subject when it comes to armor but nowadays, not so much anymore with other companies also releasing their own examples. One more issue I have with Dragon that I forgot to mention was, who thought it would be a great idea to release kits with the incorrect fenders where you have to fill in the location holes where tools once went, except it ruins the detail of the anti-slip surface? Dragon really need to get their heads out of their asses. Anyway, great job Evan as always, glad to see you overcame the issues with this particular kit as well.
Started this kit last year but it was not a enjoyable build, managed to finish it last month.Another poor kit from Dragon
I've got this kit in my stash as well as many others in this series. I think Dragon's use of recycled materials is not as bad as being led to believe here. No kit is gonna be fully to anyone's liking we all have our own issues. I agree on the pit marks but they're easy to sand off, especially on that mantlet. Its really just a few swipes of the sanding file, Its no worse than sanding the tires, if anything much easier than that. I have this kit and it didn't come with any magic trax just the DS crap. That's the worst part of the Dragon offering. I can live with the rest. But using the same parts sprues over and over again isn't just a Dragon thing, just about everyone does it and for good reason. Why waste time and money to make a few new parts when they already exist. That seems a bit nonsensical.
Ok so here it goes, I'm doing the same Panzer III G that Bill Plunk did on his blog, using the same kit that Hamikar used. Except I'm using the much nicer Panzer III's from the newer Cyber Hobby, Dragon offerings. I just worked on that back plate tonight. It took me like ten minutes with sanding and fitting to get that plate in question to fit. Not hard at all. It can be done.
The complaining is strong with this one..lol... I've built this kit. Its nothing horrible. Just gotta use your modelling skills. First World problems. Haha
That's kind of what I did, isn't it? It's just surprising that a "brand new" $80 kit is just cobbled together with random parts to make due.
I don't buy Dragon kits anymore, for all of the reasons in the video, plus they're overpriced and customer service is ABYSMAL!!! In fact I've been selling a lot of my Dragon kits lately.
That's disappointing that dragon is cutting corners like that, especially if the parts are leaving the factory with flash on them. But despite these shortcomings and inconveniences, you've made an excellent looking model. Good work and thanks for the review.
Thank you!