🏴💬Differences between Thou, Thee, and Ye | Americans React 😃🥸
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Hey guys! Felipe reacts to his favourite expert on the English language.
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Felipe says '' How do we know'?'' when Simon talks about how the words have developed. We know because some people in certain parts of the British Isles still say a few words the same way. Felipe also talks about how he speaks differently in Spanish to his family or friends based on the hierarchy of who they are. We used to do this in England, but it has almost died out now, but may remain in some older Northern people. I remember my Dad telling me about a woman in a sitcom on tv who used to say '' Don't tha thee me'' when replying to someone. ''Tha'' being a certain dialect spelling and pronunciation of thou, she was telling the person off for addressing her as 'thee' and not 'you', as thee was too personal. In other words (literally) she was saying '' Don't you call me thee, when you will do, from you''
Some parts of Yorkshire still you Thou and Thee, or similar such as Thy, but it’s not as common now sadly.
Why do you say sadly? It's a good thing for language to modernise.
@@andrewjones575 Why? We're talking about a language, not mobile phones or cars. Why should a linguistic development superior simply because it's more recent? The tendency to using 'you' with everyone reflects a more socially stratified way of thinking, where it's important to show respect to one's social equals, and people care about deference to the point where it's not worth risking using a less polite form. This elitist way of thinking cost the English language a means of distinguishing singular and plural in the second person pronouns, and given that no one really thinks that way any more it's a completely obsolete development.
I say, not only would it be better if the Yorkshire dialect kept thou and thee, the rest of the English-speaking world should bring them back.
@@ayacachotinemi4974 It'd be better if there were fewer languages & dialects.
King James was first printed in 1611, & “Thy Word is a Lamp unto my feet, and a Light unto my path!” Psalm 119 💙📖
As a speaker of English, a learner of German, and one who understands un poquito español, I found this video a very interesting introduction to your channel! When I was a child, King James was the most common Bible used in our Sunday School class, so I still have many verses memorized in that version- although today I prefer the New King James Version, for more clarity.
Thou hast a new subscriber in me. Thine channel wast mentioned in the comments under a video on the “Lost in the Pond” CZcams channel. He is an Englishman who lives in the United States, so in the opposite situation to you. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to more of your videos!
Wow, this was a very informative video! During her post-grad education, my wife (born and raised in Mexico) studied abroad in Salamanca, Spain. She told me that the "usted and ustedes" forms were used somewhat differently there -- even apart from the Castilian and old "vosotros" differences. I don't remember exactly what the differences were; however, she said that even Spain (despite some consternation) has adapted to a more international Spanish vernacular when it comes to usage.
First time response . I am an ex English Private tutor.
I found this a very interesting blog .
But my comment is onthe latin American Spanish .
A friend was a organiser for when people had problems on holiday .
She spoke flawless Spanish but learned it in Argentina .
Whenever she dealt with Spanish Airlines the Consumer Desk used to find her Spanish hilarious as it was so formal, like making an order a Burger King in old English would ,finally I understand why ?
The Luther Translation of the Bible (1534) also uses the informal "du" to address God. I guess you could check the standard Spanish Bible translations to see if they follow suit. If they do then it's a fair bet that the informal mode of address was present in the original Hebrew. I'm not a Bible scholar but the chain of logic seems reasonable.
Why it's the informal is another question. The first thing that pops into mind is that God wants an intimate relationship with each and every one of us. Or maybe there is some grammatical quirk in ancient Hebrew that requires this form of address?
Interesting and thought provoking post. Thanks Felipe.
What about Ilkley moor baht'at? Wheer hast tha been sin' a saw thee?? … all the way through to 'then we'll have all have etten thee....' A great song!!
Plenty folk from the surrounding villages of Ilkley still use the words of thee, thou or tha in everyday speech, oddly not so in Ilkley itself, t’many offcumdens now live thee’re.
O come all ye faithful
Yous two should do a collaboration video. 🤷♂️ Great video and thanks for your Spanish input too, Philippe. 👍
the formal is used in spain for people you don't know especially older people or in service jobs. You wouldn't use usted to your own family members. And they don't use vos very often unless it's vosotros (pl)
Check out 'Yorkshire Prose' on you tube, about the Yorkshire dialect called 'thee and thou'.
King James Bible was 1611
The Lord be with thee and thine.
Very interesting, I can see how ye meant plural as the town Cryer would shout hear ye, hear all?
I should have listened to the end. He answered it haha
Lots of other sites describe thee and thous as the intimate form- once you become friends. Also using thee and thou is much more precise in language than you and you! Lots of verbs were conjugated differently with thou and tee depending on the case (which English today and you has removed) - this extra detail was then maintained in the English version of the Bible.
Simon Roper is great. Not sure the point of this reaction video though.
Thou dost us proud! AB
Thou DOST us proud! Felipe DOTH us proud! I surely DO thee a great service by pointing out thy grammatical errors! 😁😂
@@gary.h.turner what a dunce I am. I thank thee for thy correction. AB
He's got far to much time on his hands
Yankee go home