King of England. Two reasons, one historical and one grammatical. This particular episode of "Sharpe" was set before and during the Battle of Talavera (1809). Although this is after the Act of Union that created the United Kingdom, the King would have been separately crowned King of England and King of Scotland. He was not recrowned as King of the United Kingdom. The South Essex (a fictional Regiment, otherwise it would have had and be called by a number) was an English Regiment. Hence the Colours would have been presented by the King of England. Secondly, a grammatical form where the name of part of something is used to indicate the whole thing.
Quote so. And "King (or Queen) of England" is a fairly common synecdoche even today, certainly in the US but also in the UK. It doesn't really signify anything other than a habit of speech.
"England" was the term used for everywhere in the empire, because England was the ruling power. So it was common to refer to Britain and colonies as England.
The first Duke of Wellington, Arthur Wellesley - an Anglo-Irish soldier. Brilliantly acted. Yes the "Sharpe" series is excellent and he's quite a hero.
simmerson appears in several episodes but only in one book, the actor created such a powerful enemy, the character replaced several of Sharpes internal enemies. Pete Postlethwaite, being his greatest enemy, Sgt. Obsidia Hawkswell, a truly great actor, sadly missed by many. Sharpe in the books is black haired with a Cockley style accent. The actor originally selected broke an ankle during rehearsal and Sean Bean was available at short notice, thus the legend was born.
The fictional Major Lennox mentioned in the clip was an officer of the 78th Highlanders who were part of the force that Arthur Wellesley lead in the Battle of Assaye. When he became Duke of Wellington he described that battle his finest. The 78th latter became the Seaforth Highlanders and the the Queens Own Highlanders. My fingernail shows me a Queen’s Own Highlander holding the Queen’s Colour.
@@SantomPhThis is part of the problem, you're essentially saying that the English Parliament has a right to dictate to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Dictatorship is essentially subjugation.
Also an American; I started reading the Sharpe series after I read all of the Louis Lamour and David Gemmell books. I'm a huge fan of Bernard Cornwell, hello from Norfolk, Virginia.
@@spaceskipster4412 I've been on the HMS Dauntless and HMS Queen Elizabeth, it was always fun to do the duplicate town name jokes: "This is Suffolk/Norfolk/Portsmouth/Hampton?" ...."You're still here, what happened?"
The commander's 'rage' was not solely about the loss of the King's colours, - it was the unnecessary loss of good men, including a senior officer well liked and respected by Wellington himself, and then the lying and transferring of blame to others.
Major Lennox was known to Wellesley as having rallied the 78th at Assaye so he was angry at the futile loss of a good man. Agreed about the lying. Little did Simmerson know Wellesley already knew the truth from Hogan.
It's strange feeling to be angry as an American that the King's Colours were lost. I'm conflicted 😂. Now I just need a multi region dvd player so I can buy this series!
In November on the 11th hour of the 11th day inthe UK the Colours touch the ground out of respect for the dead in conflict. The sun never sets on the flag its raised at sunrise and dropped at sunset, " nobody can see a flag in the dark". The guy behind the desk was Wellington, he planned his defence at Waterloo a year before Napoleon escaped Elba, Quartra Bras was a delaying action a day before Waterloo, the British were massacred but it bought him time.
I'm English or British if you so wish, lived outside of the UK for 20 years. So if someone asked where I'm from I would just say the UK. I've also noticed particularly in mainstream American media they refer to the UK as England, quite strange. Always the British Empire never the English Empire. Thanks for your content came across you because of your JP/Cathy Newman interview
Even in my younger years most British people spoke in terms of "returning to England" for instance, if abroad. This isn't an argument for/against National recognition within the UK, just a comment on use of terms.
it was common in that era to refer to britain/uk as england by natives as well as foreigners. "England" was still an all-embracing word. It meant indiscriminately England and Wales; Great Britain; the United Kingdom; and even the British Empire. (A. J. P. Taylor, Volume XV: English History, 1914-1945, page v)"
The man behind the desk... seated.. is Sir Arthur Wellesley, later ennobled as Duke of Wellington [still Wellesley here as this is immediately before Talavera when he was made a Viscount]. Next to him standing with the red jacket is Lieutenant Colonel Lawford who knows Sharpe personally from India where they served together. Last in the blue jacket is Captain, later Major, Hogan who also knows and likes Sharpe.
As to favourite Sharpe scenes, that's hard to say. This one is pretty darned great :) A list of great scenes would likely include almost anything Simmerson appears in :D Michael Cochrane, who plays him, wove a masterful depiction of a despicable man and we do so love it when he gets his just deserts in the stories. What Michael managed to do tho' was give some depth to the villain and make us see he is not 'evil', just weak and prideful and yet also under more social pressure than he can cope with because of his family. So, over time as an audience member, you come to actually feel some pity for him despite his loathsomeness.
There are actually separate assemblies for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, but no English Parliament. The Westminster Parliament is the parliament of the UK, which has MPs from all four parts of the UK, except the Irish Nationists Sinn Fein, who refuse to sit at Westminster.
Don't worry about the confusion re England, Britain, Scotland etc. There are plenty of American things I don't understand and get mixed up all the time.
The choice of words are modern for commercial value. It's more likely he would have said you lost the King's Colour. There were Regiments from all of Britain. Remember Wellington was born in Ireland, his response to his origins, being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse. Sharpe is fiction. Parliament is British from every constituency. Our Colours do touch the ground, you should watch Trooping the Colours .
It was the 19th Century not the 18th, this is based on the book Sharpe's Eagle, which itself is fiction based on the actual battle of Talavera in the summer of 1809 and the wider Peninsula war. It was a good TV series but like all TV and Films it takes liberties with the source material. Read the books they are much better and much deeper with some real insights to the lives of redcoats and the French, Spanish et al. Also available in audiobooks. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There was only one sovereign and George nominally ruled the British Empire where the seat of power was London, England. The power lay with the politicians and East India Company in reality, but the redcoats took the King's shilling and fought for him.
the act of union was in 1707 made political union between scotland, and the already united england and wales. since James I (1603) the royalty were monarchs of both the scottish and english crowns but not governmental union. The royalty is therefore king of both england and scotland. In the modern day people get antsy about England being used as a general term for the UK for a few reasons: England accounts for around 85% of the UK population and so is the dominant part, making some in the other parts worried about being underrepresented. It is technically incorrect if talking about the UK as a whole. some people simply don't like the english and england and so want to disparage them and remove them from language (woke ideology) many english people really like the welsh, scottish and northern irish and so don't want to misrepresent those parts of the UK. back in the days of empire it was far more common and accepted to interchange England with britain or UK, again for the simple reason that england is by far the largest and most powerful part of it and it is where the central seat of power lay in london. This interchange could often be accepted and mimicked by scots, welsh and even irish during those periods, especially if they lived in england. As you would expect after 300 years of union that 20-25% of people living in scotland are of english heritage and close to a million people of scottish heritage live in england which is about 20% of the total scottish population. After all this time the heritages are often extremely mixed.
Hi Felipe thanks for reminding me about Sharpe I remember it fitst time round and now its good to watch again. Another ITV production you might enjoy is HORNBLOWER. It is about royal navy rather than army. It is still being repeated on ITV4 if you wish to give it a quick look.
Everything you said is true, and during that time the American called King George the king of England. The UK came even later than Great Britain. I was in a Navy Honor Guard twice, and something else I don't see today is when the honor guard carries the Navy and American flags, the American flag is always raised higher. Today the honor guards don't always do that??
Wellington took command of the 33rd Regiment of Foot ( later merged with the 76th to form the Duke of Wellingtons Regiment). The regiment recruited in my local area in West Yorkshire. According to an oral, family history, my grandfather's great- grandfather fought and died in India, presumably with this regiment. His Indian wife came back to Britain with the regiment, and with his 3 Indian born sons, preceding modern immigration by 150 years. I've been trying to find documentary confirmation of this story, so far without any luck. I did once go to the Public Records office in Kew, and partially checked the regiment's Monthly Muster, which listed everyone present each month and explained any absences, eg "Arthur Wellesley, on leave in Europe", or "died, willed to native wife" (a surprisingly common notation). There was recently erected in the centre of Halifax, where the "Dukes" had their headquarters, a magnificent monument to the now defunct regiment- check it out!
It's been a while since I've seen Sharpe so forgive me if wrong, but David Troughton played Wellesley only twice in the first season which I believe was only 2 episodes. By virtue of the fact that Sharpe has now been promoted to Captain would suggest that this is his 2nd appearance in episode 2 ' Sharpe's Eagle'.
Technically Wellesley could only brevet Sharpe. For the promotion to be confirmed Horse Guards in London had to agree it. Mind you after Sharpe got the Eagle it was hard to refuse *lol*
@@julianmhall he lost his captain rank in the very next episode to someone who bought the position. After managing to take Badajoz and seeing the new captain die is his promotion confirmed.
Referring to the "King of England" is common parlance. As a Dutchie I would compare it to the Netherlands often being referred to as Holland which effectively only refers to the two Western provinces of the country.
Hi Felipe. In the Sharpe novels Sir Henry's influential cousin at Horseguards is said to be Sir Banastre Tarleton. Who as I'm sure you're aware is a somewhat infamous figure in the history of the American Revolutionary War who is said to have murdered American soldiers who were trying to surrender. Banastre Tarleton was the inspiration for Jason Isaacs character in the Mel Gibson movie The Patriot. Bernard Cornwell is very good at mixing in very well researched real history into his books.
The annoyance comes when the establishment forgets that it is Britain, a partnership of 4 individual nations.England,Ireland,Scotland and Wales.England is the biggest country but only one part of the whole. Like America have differing states and their own laws and political representatives. Would you then say that the federal government rules over America? You will notice reference to Major Lennox who gave his life defending the Kings honour, he was a scotsmen in the British army.
In the international arena, "England/English is still more or less synonymous with Britain/British when taking about the UK. Napoleon at Waterloo asked "will the English never show their backs!" despite Scottish regiments standing side by side with English and Welsh at the battle and the Germans talked about "England" at the time of WW2 when they meant Britain. It must be galling for the Celts, particularly the Scots who contribute up to 40% of the army but only 10% of the population.
Did you spot Daniel Craig at the end? The guy playing Wellington is the son of the second Dr Who. "The man who loses the king's colours loses the King's friendship" "Yes the french general is having tea with the king now!" The period depicted predates the Act of Union. It's like saying that George Washington was the 16th President if you count the Continental Congress. Read the Flashman books as well if you enjoy this sort of thing!
The scene is set in the Napoleonic era 1800 approx. The Act of Union between Scotland and England was in 1707 thus naming armed forces British. Just like Philippe most foreigners and english people tend to be confused and ignorant that Great Britain is comprised of 4 individual but separate nations as you would expect outsiders tend to focus on the biggest country in the union as they are mostly uneducated regarding British history.
so about your thing about england and Britain, His Brittanic Majesty, King-Emperor of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, was still primarily the king of england and scotland, as the crowns were merged, so the imperial state crown was primarily that of england since thats where the state officially was, so King of England, Britain, Scotland, Ireland were all acceptable, Emperor of india was also a title that was held at one point, but king of england is a correct and applicable term in that context
HRH is the Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, surrounding Isles and the counties of the Commonwealth who have not become republics such as New Zealand, Australia, Canada, etc....
No it is not frustration. It is simply an attempt to correct the position. It is simply a historic fact that England and Scotland ceased to be separate sovereign countries in 1707, when the Act of Union created the new sovereign country of Great Britain. (Wales was never a kingdom like Scotland or England but a Principality bordering, and ruled by, England). Ireland was joined to new nation in 1800. What you call the English Parliament was the British Parliament which contained Scottish and Irish Members of Parliament as well as English Members. But as the majority of MPs were English, many non-English MPs felt that England "ruled" the UK as a whole. The gentleman in blue on screen - actually The Duke of Wellington - should have known better than to refer to the King of England. Since 1603 all monarchs have been King or Queen of the whole UK, not just England.
I saw on the telly that during the war of Independance .King george 3rds battle flag was captured at Yorktown I think, they have it at Westpoint? cant find on the internet 10 mins looking ,anybody find it
Don't worry too much about getting confused over the English/British thing, it also confuses many English people. The only people who really get it are the Welsh, Scots and Irish.😉
at this time he was still a general. He became Field Marshal (Generalissimo) later on when the Spanish were convinced he could lead the combined armies to victory.
I think the other countries don't want to share in England's "imperial shame" but I don't take that approach. We all played our part even if London and England was the driving force, we all sucked from imperial teat.
The actor behind the desk portraying Sir Arthur Wellesley (1st Duke of Wellington)...the term the King of England's colours in my opinion is shorthand it would be a bit much to say the King of Great Britain and Northern Irelands colours and to be fair the English Crown is by far the senior 👍
Scotland was a unified country before England was therefore is more senior. England had to wait till James the 6th of Scotland to take them over before their Empire really started😉
Actually this is a script error. It should be King's Colour singular as the regiment had one King's Colour and one Regimental Colour. Only one was lost.
I share many of your questions, though I would correct you on one (to me as an Englishman, bitter) point. There is no such thing as an English Parliament, like there are Scots, Welsh and N.I Parliaments. There is a UK Parliament. MP's elected by constituencies contained within each of the other aforementioned countries in the union sit at Westminster, so it's not an English Parliament. To be clear, there needs to be a UK Parliament, at least with regards to foreign affairs, but I personally would like to see a separate English Parliament...perhaps situated somewhere more Northerly in England. Some might say that the number of MP's not elected by English people arguing about and voting on issues regarding England is so few as to not matter...It's not all that few, I think they make up collectively around 12%, but this is all irrelevant, it's about principle. Others might say that for England to put itself on a similar 'devolved footing' would be incongruous with it's perception as the 'head' of the union. This may be, I am a unionist, but on the other hand, the majority of the Scots MP's we allow to vote on matters pertaining to the Union are by definition anti union (being from the SNP) so I don't see as that argument holds much water. At least with my proposal, those traitors wouldn't hold sway in domestic English matters.
The terms England and Britain were interchangeable. It's like Mankind and The Human Race, Mankind doesn't just mean Men, it means Women too, these two terms mean the same thing and are interchangeable.
There is no English Parliament, only a UK one with English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish representatives, even though it meets in London. English MPs predominate because the population of England is much larger than the other countries of the United Kingdom, but we have had quite a few Scottish Prime Ministers, including recent ones like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. But it is true that our (unwritten) constitution is illogical and asymetrical. The country wasn't designed and founded at a particular point in history, it has emerged over many centuries of conflict and compromise, and is still full of unresolved tensions.
People get angry about the confusion between England and Britain from every side as each of the nations which constituent Britain still have individual pride of their long held traditions and identities. The Scots often hate the English and make fun of them, the Welsh mock the Scots and English and the English mock them in return. We may have been united under a single Monarch for many years but there is a clear cultural divide in aspects of our characters which run deep. It's odd when you consider how much we have intermixed, how many traditions we share and how we love to make fun of one another and as a result share a sense of humour. Even so there exists in the hearts of many people the desire to declare oneself as both British and one of the English/Welsh/Scottish. I do not think it's born of jealousy, it's simply down to certain individual characteristics which no one outside of the situation can truly understand.
Technically the German empire, as the royal family is german, the english are german (anglo saxons) and the last native king, was a welshman, oliver Cromwell. So technically the welsh flag, is the BRITISH flag, thats why its not on the Union cack whooops jack! ;) pmsl
no americans just keep geting it wrong, the british empire (scotland whales irland and englan) Great britian the largest land mass in the britanic islands and england is the largest country)
You'll probably find that there is a considerable crossover between those who see themselves as English first and British second and those who voted for Brexit, and vice versa. Leave won, but it was hardly a landslide, so this likely tallies with your experience in this regard. Some of us see ourselves as citizens of a nation, others of the world (Europe is merely a stepping stone I guess, but you can see the same trend where illegal immigration is concerned and also likely regarding Covid Sharia).
interchanging great britain with england is offensive to the scottish and irish and welsh because it ignores their existence as peoples and calls them by the name of a more powerful neighbour (all be it partner) but one that a lot of them have bad historical relations with. Because England is the most powerful partner in the union, certain english people have and do interchange them out of arrogance or not being concerned about offending the welsh, scottish etc. Also, for English people, calling the monarch the King of England is a habit of a thousand years, and they never really got in to the habit of changing it after the union with Scotland or ireland. But calling scottish people English or saying that scotland is a part of england or that kind of thing is deeply annoying and offensive to them.
Saw this loads of times he was the best Wellington they replace him in with different actor got love Brian cox sniffing snuff tobacco he likes bit snuff and young Daniel Craig at end
Hello Felipe. I get the England v Britain point, though you are bound to provoke comments. On this occasion I took it there was more to it. Wellington was Anglo Irish and this seemed to me as him putting down an English posh officer, who was looking down his nose at him (pun about nose and Wellington intended) by saying King of England. I was enchanted by this era as a kid and used to buy Airfix Waterloo figures from a shop near my gran's in Keighley, where my family are from. Funny how on TV Sharpe was from there later, though not in the books. My gran had posh relatives, but due to her gran's marriage to a workman, she was as a child only allowed in the servants entrance when visiting. This tale was another reason to like how Sharpe has come from the ranks. Watch out for the episode where he goes home. Best wishes to Lillian.
In some ways England’s first colonies were Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Even today England is desperate to keep hold of them. Many of the inhabitants of the Celtic nations would like independence from England. Maybe one day it will even happen
I really enjoyed the series. Then I read the books. ...which were a major disappointment. There is really only one story, just told I different settings. (Sadly, even other Cornwell books are the same story, just with different names to the characters) Stick to the TV series.
Conversely to the embarrassment comments it's annoying when a sports personality is British when they win, but Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish when they lose.
You will thoroughly enjoy the series, not only for its historical background but for the excellent script, drama and epic battle scenes.
Amazing series my husband would watch this and Hornblower in a heartbeat no matter how often he has seen an episode before. Enjoy!
Hornblowers great they couldnt afford the ships
King of England.
Two reasons, one historical and one grammatical.
This particular episode of "Sharpe" was set before and during the Battle of Talavera (1809). Although this is after the Act of Union that created the United Kingdom, the King would have been separately crowned King of England and King of Scotland. He was not recrowned as King of the United Kingdom. The South Essex (a fictional Regiment, otherwise it would have had and be called by a number) was an English Regiment. Hence the Colours would have been presented by the King of England.
Secondly, a grammatical form where the name of part of something is used to indicate the whole thing.
Quote so. And "King (or Queen) of England" is a fairly common synecdoche even today, certainly in the US but also in the UK. It doesn't really signify anything other than a habit of speech.
@@Ingens_Scherz Couldn't remember what the correct name for the grammatical form was.
@@Ingens_Scherz Still annoys those of us who aren't English.
"England" was the term used for everywhere in the empire, because England was the ruling power.
So it was common to refer to Britain and colonies as England.
Sharpe and Hornblower are excellent books and TV series.
The first Duke of Wellington, Arthur Wellesley - an Anglo-Irish soldier. Brilliantly acted. Yes the "Sharpe" series is excellent and he's quite a hero.
simmerson appears in several episodes but only in one book, the actor created such a powerful enemy, the character replaced several of Sharpes internal enemies.
Pete Postlethwaite, being his greatest enemy, Sgt. Obsidia Hawkswell, a truly great actor, sadly missed by many.
Sharpe in the books is black haired with a Cockley style accent.
The actor originally selected broke an ankle during rehearsal and Sean Bean was available at short notice, thus the legend was born.
Cornwell later retconned Sharpe to have been raised in Yorkshire after escaping the gutters in London.
When Simmerson leaves the room and talks to his Nephew Gibbons, the 3rd guy is Daniel Craig, the most recent James Bond/ex-James Bond
You can see the French eagles taken at Waterloo at the Scotish national museum.
The fictional Major Lennox mentioned in the clip was an officer of the 78th Highlanders who were part of the force that Arthur Wellesley lead in the Battle of Assaye. When he became Duke of Wellington he described that battle his finest.
The 78th latter became the Seaforth Highlanders and the the Queens Own Highlanders. My fingernail shows me a Queen’s Own Highlander holding the Queen’s Colour.
There is no English Parliament, Westminster is the Parliament of the United Kingdom.
That is correct, but there should be one.
@@mickc7388 with 80% of the population being in England, it is rather pointless to have a separate English government.
@@SantomPhThis is part of the problem, you're essentially saying that the English Parliament has a right to dictate to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Dictatorship is essentially subjugation.
Also an American; I started reading the Sharpe series after I read all of the Louis Lamour and David Gemmell books. I'm a huge fan of Bernard Cornwell, hello from Norfolk, Virginia.
Yay, hello from Norfolk, England... 🇬🇧 👋🏼
@@spaceskipster4412 I've been on the HMS Dauntless and HMS Queen Elizabeth, it was always fun to do the duplicate town name jokes: "This is Suffolk/Norfolk/Portsmouth/Hampton?" ...."You're still here, what happened?"
@@tolvaer lol 😆👌🏼
Norfolk and Suffolk are counties over here, not sure if it's the same with you...🤔
It was early 19th century. As they walked out of the office, did you notice a young Daniel Craig, 007 James Bond?
Loved watching this in my teenage years. Great weekday viewing in the winter on Thursdays.
The commander's 'rage' was not solely about the loss of the King's colours, - it was the unnecessary loss of good men, including a senior officer well liked and respected by Wellington himself, and then the lying and transferring of blame to others.
Major Lennox was known to Wellesley as having rallied the 78th at Assaye so he was angry at the futile loss of a good man. Agreed about the lying. Little did Simmerson know Wellesley already knew the truth from Hogan.
@@julianmhall A military tradition. When a commanding officer asks you what happened, they already know.
a variation on Sun Tzu 'never enter any battle you have not already won' :)@@gamesretweets9979
It's strange feeling to be angry as an American that the King's Colours were lost. I'm conflicted 😂. Now I just need a multi region dvd player so I can buy this series!
Well imagine if it was the President's colours...
In November on the 11th hour of the 11th day inthe UK the Colours touch the ground out of respect for the dead in conflict. The sun never sets on the flag its raised at sunrise and dropped at sunset, " nobody can see a flag in the dark". The guy behind the desk was Wellington, he planned his defence at Waterloo a year before Napoleon escaped Elba, Quartra Bras was a delaying action a day before Waterloo, the British were massacred but it bought him time.
at the time he was still Sir Arthur Wellesley. Winning Talavera earned him his Lordship.
I'm English or British if you so wish, lived outside of the UK for 20 years. So if someone asked where I'm from I would just say the UK.
I've also noticed particularly in mainstream American media they refer to the UK as England, quite strange. Always the British Empire never the English Empire.
Thanks for your content came across you because of your JP/Cathy Newman interview
Even in my younger years most British people spoke in terms of "returning to England" for instance, if abroad. This isn't an argument for/against National recognition within the UK, just a comment on use of terms.
This scene is from episode 2 Sharpe's Eagle ❤ love Hornblower too
it was common in that era to refer to britain/uk as england by natives as well as foreigners.
"England" was still an all-embracing word. It meant indiscriminately England and Wales; Great Britain; the United Kingdom; and even the British Empire. (A. J. P. Taylor, Volume XV: English History, 1914-1945, page v)"
The man behind the desk... seated.. is Sir Arthur Wellesley, later ennobled as Duke of Wellington [still Wellesley here as this is immediately before Talavera when he was made a Viscount]. Next to him standing with the red jacket is Lieutenant Colonel Lawford who knows Sharpe personally from India where they served together. Last in the blue jacket is Captain, later Major, Hogan who also knows and likes Sharpe.
As to favourite Sharpe scenes, that's hard to say. This one is pretty darned great :)
A list of great scenes would likely include almost anything Simmerson appears in :D
Michael Cochrane, who plays him, wove a masterful depiction of a despicable man and we do so love it when he gets his just deserts in the stories. What Michael managed to do tho' was give some depth to the villain and make us see he is not 'evil', just weak and prideful and yet also under more social pressure than he can cope with because of his family. So, over time as an audience member, you come to actually feel some pity for him despite his loathsomeness.
Brilliant scene brilliant show
There are actually separate assemblies for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, but no English Parliament. The Westminster Parliament is the parliament of the UK, which has MPs from all four parts of the UK, except the Irish Nationists Sinn Fein, who refuse to sit at Westminster.
The young officer who says to Simmerson, "leave Sharpe to me" is Daniel Craig.
006 and 007. And the original Hannibal Lector in this scene too.
It was based on the war with Napoleon France in the early 19th century and most of the scene in Sharpe are filmed at fort amhurst at chatham Kent
If you’re a reader…you will love the entire book series…it is superb and they are “fast reads”.
Don't worry about the confusion re England, Britain, Scotland etc. There are plenty of American things I don't understand and get mixed up all the time.
There are a whole series of “Sharpe” books by Bernard Cornwell. He is also the author of the “The Last Kingdom” series of books.
You made me look it up, two lost at Izanwanda. Resulting in them not carried in battle since 1881. Thanks for the lesson. Maybe watch the CZcams clip.
The choice of words are modern for commercial value. It's more likely he would have said you lost the King's Colour. There were Regiments from all of Britain. Remember Wellington was born in Ireland, his response to his origins, being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse. Sharpe is fiction. Parliament is British from every constituency. Our Colours do touch the ground, you should watch Trooping the Colours .
Nah it was common till ww2 to say England.
the Colours are what they call the flag. You only call it the Colour when you are actually holding the flag and marching (trooping) with it
James Bond (Daniel Craig was one of the officers outside the room) v Sharpe
Sean bean did fight piers Brosnan as bond . ( 006 vs 007 )
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I was referring to the younger Daniel Craig at the end of the scene. They end up having a scrap later on.
@@markkelly9621 ah . I see . Yes i eas referring to goldeneye
It was the 19th Century not the 18th, this is based on the book Sharpe's Eagle, which itself is fiction based on the actual battle of Talavera in the summer of 1809 and the wider Peninsula war. It was a good TV series but like all TV and Films it takes liberties with the source material. Read the books they are much better and much deeper with some real insights to the lives of redcoats and the French, Spanish et al. Also available in audiobooks. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. There was only one sovereign and George nominally ruled the British Empire where the seat of power was London, England. The power lay with the politicians and East India Company in reality, but the redcoats took the King's shilling and fought for him.
the act of union was in 1707 made political union between scotland, and the already united england and wales. since James I (1603) the royalty were monarchs of both the scottish and english crowns but not governmental union. The royalty is therefore king of both england and scotland. In the modern day people get antsy about England being used as a general term for the UK for a few reasons:
England accounts for around 85% of the UK population and so is the dominant part, making some in the other parts worried about being underrepresented.
It is technically incorrect if talking about the UK as a whole.
some people simply don't like the english and england and so want to disparage them and remove them from language (woke ideology)
many english people really like the welsh, scottish and northern irish and so don't want to misrepresent those parts of the UK.
back in the days of empire it was far more common and accepted to interchange England with britain or UK, again for the simple reason that england is by far the largest and most powerful part of it and it is where the central seat of power lay in london. This interchange could often be accepted and mimicked by scots, welsh and even irish during those periods, especially if they lived in england. As you would expect after 300 years of union that 20-25% of people living in scotland are of english heritage and close to a million people of scottish heritage live in england which is about 20% of the total scottish population. After all this time the heritages are often extremely mixed.
Hi Felipe thanks for reminding me about Sharpe I remember it fitst time round and now its good to watch again. Another ITV production you might enjoy is HORNBLOWER. It is about royal navy rather than army. It is still being repeated on ITV4 if you wish to give it a quick look.
You should watch Hornblower you would enjoy it
Sharpe is an excellent story of the Army.
Hornblower is an excellent story of the Navy.
I love both!
By the way ,the last actor to speak in that scene is Danial Greig ,Mr Bond .
The guy who plays sir Henry is my friends dad :-)
Everything you said is true, and during that time the American called King George the king of England. The UK came even later than Great Britain. I was in a Navy Honor Guard twice, and something else I don't see today is when the honor guard carries the Navy and American flags, the American flag is always raised higher. Today the honor guards don't always do that??
Wellington took command of the 33rd Regiment of Foot ( later merged with the 76th to form the Duke of Wellingtons Regiment). The regiment recruited in my local area in West Yorkshire. According to an oral, family history, my grandfather's great- grandfather fought and died in India, presumably with this regiment. His Indian wife came back to Britain with the regiment, and with his 3 Indian born sons, preceding modern immigration by 150 years. I've been trying to find documentary confirmation of this story, so far without any luck. I did once go to the Public Records office in Kew, and partially checked the regiment's Monthly Muster, which listed everyone present each month and explained any absences, eg "Arthur Wellesley, on leave in Europe", or "died, willed to native wife" (a surprisingly common notation). There was recently erected in the centre of Halifax, where the "Dukes" had their headquarters, a magnificent monument to the now defunct regiment- check it out!
Wellesley was Irish, by the way.
It's been a while since I've seen Sharpe so forgive me if wrong, but David Troughton played Wellesley only twice in the first season which I believe was only 2 episodes. By virtue of the fact that Sharpe has now been promoted to Captain would suggest that this is his 2nd appearance in episode 2 ' Sharpe's Eagle'.
Yes this is Eagle, I think Troughton refused to come back due to the conditions where they filmed, and Hugh Fraser took over
@@AttyDouro22 Yes, Troughton apparently objected to filming in the Crimea.
Technically Wellesley could only brevet Sharpe. For the promotion to be confirmed Horse Guards in London had to agree it. Mind you after Sharpe got the Eagle it was hard to refuse *lol*
@@julianmhall he lost his captain rank in the very next episode to someone who bought the position. After managing to take Badajoz and seeing the new captain die is his promotion confirmed.
Referring to the "King of England" is common parlance. As a Dutchie I would compare it to the Netherlands often being referred to as Holland which effectively only refers to the two Western provinces of the country.
Hi Felipe.
In the Sharpe novels Sir Henry's influential cousin at Horseguards is said to be Sir Banastre Tarleton. Who as I'm sure you're aware is a somewhat infamous figure in the history of the American Revolutionary War who is said to have murdered American soldiers who were trying to surrender.
Banastre Tarleton was the inspiration for Jason Isaacs character in the Mel Gibson movie The Patriot.
Bernard Cornwell is very good at mixing in very well researched real history into his books.
IIRC wasn't it supposed to be Tarleton when Sharpe faced off against the Minister of State for War?
The annoyance comes when the establishment forgets that it is Britain, a partnership of 4 individual nations.England,Ireland,Scotland and Wales.England is the biggest country but only one part of the whole.
Like America have differing states and their own laws and political representatives.
Would you then say that the federal government rules over America?
You will notice reference to Major Lennox who gave his life defending the Kings honour, he was a scotsmen in the British army.
In the international arena, "England/English is still more or less synonymous with Britain/British when taking about the UK. Napoleon at Waterloo asked "will the English never show their backs!" despite Scottish regiments standing side by side with English and Welsh at the battle and the Germans talked about "England" at the time of WW2 when they meant Britain. It must be galling for the Celts, particularly the Scots who contribute up to 40% of the army but only 10% of the population.
Did you spot Daniel Craig at the end? The guy playing Wellington is the son of the second Dr Who.
"The man who loses the king's colours loses the King's friendship" "Yes the french general is having tea with the king now!"
The period depicted predates the Act of Union. It's like saying that George Washington was the 16th President if you count the Continental Congress. Read the Flashman books as well if you enjoy this sort of thing!
The scene is set in the Napoleonic era 1800 approx.
The Act of Union between Scotland and England was in 1707 thus naming armed forces British.
Just like Philippe most foreigners and english people tend to be confused and ignorant that Great Britain is comprised of 4 individual but separate nations as you would expect outsiders tend to focus on the biggest country in the union as they are mostly uneducated regarding British history.
This is from episode 2 of 16.
It's actually a collection of full TV movies. 16 in fact. and 25 books.
so about your thing about england and Britain, His Brittanic Majesty, King-Emperor of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, was still primarily the king of england and scotland, as the crowns were merged, so the imperial state crown was primarily that of england since thats where the state officially was, so King of England, Britain, Scotland, Ireland were all acceptable, Emperor of india was also a title that was held at one point, but king of england is a correct and applicable term in that context
5:22 Centre:- a young James Bond if I’m not mistaken.
The person be hind the desk is wellington
Awwwww sending you a nice big welsh "CWTCH" your never alone with the gang all here!
HRH is the Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, surrounding Isles and the counties of the Commonwealth who have not become republics such as New Zealand, Australia, Canada, etc....
The guy behind the desk is Wellington no less .....
The reason people say England over others is because it was chosen as the primary title in the union
Hope this doesn't ruin the season but this scene here titled - Great Moments in Sharpe #2: I'm going to make you beg, Sharpe!
No it is not frustration. It is simply an attempt to correct the position. It is simply a historic fact that England and Scotland ceased to be separate sovereign countries in 1707, when the Act of Union created the new sovereign country of Great Britain. (Wales was never a kingdom like Scotland or England but a Principality bordering, and ruled by, England). Ireland was joined to new nation in 1800. What you call the English Parliament was the British Parliament which contained Scottish and Irish Members of Parliament as well as English Members. But as the majority of MPs were English, many non-English MPs felt that England "ruled" the UK as a whole. The gentleman in blue on screen - actually The Duke of Wellington - should have known better than to refer to the King of England. Since 1603 all monarchs have been King or Queen of the whole UK, not just England.
5:33 Thats a very young Daniel Craig right there
loved sharpe
I saw on the telly that during the war of Independance .King george 3rds battle flag was captured at Yorktown I think, they have it at Westpoint? cant find on the internet 10 mins looking ,anybody find it
Did Felipe notice the young Daniel Craig in the final scene.
Don't worry too much about getting confused over the English/British thing, it also confuses many English people. The only people who really get it are the Welsh, Scots and Irish.😉
The "man behind the desk" is Field Marshal Sir Arthur Wellesley, otherwise known as The Duke of Wellington.
at this time he was still a general. He became Field Marshal (Generalissimo) later on when the Spanish were convinced he could lead the combined armies to victory.
Great series. Shape.
I think the comments are largely because most people know very little history and focus on the wrong things to critique.
Sharpe is great because it can do history slowly, using Disney characters that Americans will understand
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What? You're a veteran? Which unit did you serve in, which branch? How long did you serve, and when, please? 🙂
Good bit of acting.
Sharpe is a great tv series also Hornblower and Box of Delights to.
How are you guys doing? I haven't seen any new videos for ages. 😒
It's very complex mate 👍
Interesting point re England. Makes me think
I think the other countries don't want to share in England's "imperial shame" but I don't take that approach. We all played our part even if London and England was the driving force, we all sucked from imperial teat.
The actor behind the desk portraying Sir Arthur Wellesley (1st Duke of Wellington)...the term the King of England's colours in my opinion is shorthand it would be a bit much to say the King of Great Britain and Northern Irelands colours and to be fair the English Crown is by far the senior 👍
Scotland was a unified country before England was therefore is more senior. England had to wait till James the 6th of Scotland to take them over before their Empire really started😉
Actually this is a script error. It should be King's Colour singular as the regiment had one King's Colour and one Regimental Colour. Only one was lost.
I share many of your questions, though I would correct you on one (to me as an Englishman, bitter) point. There is no such thing as an English Parliament, like there are Scots, Welsh and N.I Parliaments. There is a UK Parliament. MP's elected by constituencies contained within each of the other aforementioned countries in the union sit at Westminster, so it's not an English Parliament.
To be clear, there needs to be a UK Parliament, at least with regards to foreign affairs, but I personally would like to see a separate English Parliament...perhaps situated somewhere more Northerly in England.
Some might say that the number of MP's not elected by English people arguing about and voting on issues regarding England is so few as to not matter...It's not all that few, I think they make up collectively around 12%, but this is all irrelevant, it's about principle.
Others might say that for England to put itself on a similar 'devolved footing' would be incongruous with it's perception as the 'head' of the union. This may be, I am a unionist, but on the other hand, the majority of the Scots MP's we allow to vote on matters pertaining to the Union are by definition anti union (being from the SNP) so I don't see as that argument holds much water. At least with my proposal, those traitors wouldn't hold sway in domestic English matters.
The terms England and Britain were interchangeable. It's like Mankind and The Human Race, Mankind doesn't just mean Men, it means Women too, these two terms mean the same thing and are interchangeable.
Major Hogan is the Kingsman
If you like this you should watch Hornblower
Spot James Bond?
There is no English Parliament, only a UK one with English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish representatives, even though it meets in London. English MPs predominate because the population of England is much larger than the other countries of the United Kingdom, but we have had quite a few Scottish Prime Ministers, including recent ones like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. But it is true that our (unwritten) constitution is illogical and asymetrical. The country wasn't designed and founded at a particular point in history, it has emerged over many centuries of conflict and compromise, and is still full of unresolved tensions.
People get angry about the confusion between England and Britain from every side as each of the nations which constituent Britain still have individual pride of their long held traditions and identities. The Scots often hate the English and make fun of them, the Welsh mock the Scots and English and the English mock them in return. We may have been united under a single Monarch for many years but there is a clear cultural divide in aspects of our characters which run deep. It's odd when you consider how much we have intermixed, how many traditions we share and how we love to make fun of one another and as a result share a sense of humour. Even so there exists in the hearts of many people the desire to declare oneself as both British and one of the English/Welsh/Scottish. I do not think it's born of jealousy, it's simply down to certain individual characteristics which no one outside of the situation can truly understand.
Technically the German empire, as the royal family is german, the english are german (anglo saxons) and the last native king, was a welshman, oliver Cromwell. So technically the welsh flag, is the BRITISH flag, thats why its not on the Union cack whooops jack! ;) pmsl
Watch Zulu Dawn. Famous cene save the colours.
no americans just keep geting it wrong, the british empire (scotland whales irland and englan) Great britian the largest land mass in the britanic islands and england is the largest country)
You'll probably find that there is a considerable crossover between those who see themselves as English first and British second and those who voted for Brexit, and vice versa. Leave won, but it was hardly a landslide, so this likely tallies with your experience in this regard. Some of us see ourselves as citizens of a nation, others of the world (Europe is merely a stepping stone I guess, but you can see the same trend where illegal immigration is concerned and also likely regarding Covid Sharia).
interchanging great britain with england is offensive to the scottish and irish and welsh because it ignores their existence as peoples and calls them by the name of a more powerful neighbour (all be it partner) but one that a lot of them have bad historical relations with. Because England is the most powerful partner in the union, certain english people have and do interchange them out of arrogance or not being concerned about offending the welsh, scottish etc. Also, for English people, calling the monarch the King of England is a habit of a thousand years, and they never really got in to the habit of changing it after the union with Scotland or ireland. But calling scottish people English or saying that scotland is a part of england or that kind of thing is deeply annoying and offensive to them.
Sean Bean was brilliant in Sharpe. A great supporting and production team. The books are a great read to. Thanks for the watch and your views. 👍
Did you spot Mr Bond in the final shot?
Read the books.
The scene where the colours are carried off by the French always makes me sad.
Saw this loads of times he was the best Wellington they replace him in with different actor got love Brian cox sniffing snuff tobacco he likes bit snuff and young Daniel Craig at end
Daniel Craig at the end . Leave shape to me .
Hello Felipe. I get the England v Britain point, though you are bound to provoke comments.
On this occasion I took it there was more to it. Wellington was Anglo Irish and this seemed to me as him putting down an English posh officer, who was looking down his nose at him (pun about nose and Wellington intended) by saying King of England.
I was enchanted by this era as a kid and used to buy Airfix Waterloo figures from a shop near my gran's in Keighley, where my family are from. Funny how on TV Sharpe was from there later, though not in the books.
My gran had posh relatives, but due to her gran's marriage to a workman, she was as a child only allowed in the servants entrance when visiting. This tale was another reason to like how Sharpe has come from the ranks. Watch out for the episode where he goes home.
Best wishes to Lillian.
You should read the books, far better
In some ways England’s first colonies were Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Even today England is desperate to keep hold of them. Many of the inhabitants of the Celtic nations would like independence from England. Maybe one day it will even happen
I really enjoyed the series.
Then I read the books. ...which were a major disappointment. There is really only one story, just told I different settings. (Sadly, even other Cornwell books are the same story, just with different names to the characters)
Stick to the TV series.
Conversely to the embarrassment comments it's annoying when a sports personality is British when they win, but Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish when they lose.