The end quote, "Life in the Brotherhood is about to change." is a reference to the first Fallout intro end quote, "Life is the Vault is about to change."
@@synthwave_junkie5010 I wish they would just make it full canon cuz that would mean in Florida there's basically Gator Deathclaws, and an Entire State that's Vault 22
fun fact : this game was declared non-cannon because they would have had to pay his family royalties to use it even though it fits perfectly with the lore and bethesda are money crooks
To people wondering about the canon-ness of this game, Bethesda has said that while most of the game is non-canon, the most important main plot thread of the game IS canon. Presumably, the ending where the Calculator self-destructs is the canon one as obviously the rest of the Brotherhood hasn't heard from them yet, on either coast. In the other endings they likely would have.
Well the other ending would make them OP. So that's why they went with the worst ending possible even though i always put myself as the new calculator because that makes fucking sense.
@@The_mrbob good thing is Tactics is located so far away from the other game location that its not complicated to make it canon because it doesn affect anything
@@CPorter I mean, technically true. But what I mean by driving around is you actually _drive vehicles around_ in the scenarios. Like actually using it in combat to act like a mobile bunkers and stuff
It makes me think the original vision for the Fallout universe was that technology would eventually be restored to certain levels of pre-war functionality. Just looking at the games the original creators worked on, only one game started in a vault. Fallout 2 started in Arroyo as a tribal, and in New Vegas you start as a Courier, and in Van Buren you were going to start on a prison transport. To me, that shows that the Wasteland was actually meant to advance with each game. Only Fallout 1 showed a truly untamed Wasteland from the perspective of a Vault Dweller.
Favorite Brotherhood is this one. Less idiotic than the Western one and less"knightly" than the eastern one. TRULY pragmatic. I dunno people hated this game, i personally loved it.
***** I think it's because of less RPG-ish gameplay, far less options to win (basically, kill everything is only option in 99% cases) and quite tiresome turn based combat (RT one is really good for 6 characters tho). Oh and fact it isn't "Fallout 3". If only people knew... It isn't bad game tho. I mean, even if You think it's worst Fallout games (arguably NOT) the quality level is pretty damn high.
Local Ork It's a tactical game in the Fallout universe. It's not an RPG, more like Xcom in fallout world. I loved playing CTB ( Continuous Turn Based ) Fallout Tactics. And i still play it in multiplayer with friends.
rorschach1985ify Supposedly this is how Wasteland 2 will be. Not sure if I like this idea of guiding a "group" rather than the a "lone wolf". We'll see how it turns out i guess...
It's very interesting seeing these years old comments regarding Tactics canonicity with all we've been given now. Originally it was just the main events of the game that were canon, then we kept getting more and more details from New Vegas to 4 to Wasteland Warfare. Even the few lore inconsistencies in Tactics were given an in-universe excuse by the devs on New Vegas, lol. Though it's odd there are still some folk who'll take it to their graves arguing nothing in this game is relevant to the main continuity.
@@LordVader1094 because at the time of it release it wasn't a Fallout 3. Add the lore contradiction (bit to ne fair the game was created in one year by a team who wasn't Interplay/Black Isles) And also the fact it full name is Fallout tactics : Brotherhood of Steel. Proviking confusion with Fallout : Brotherhood of Steel.
Because that's true. As of 2023, at least, the game is non-canon in its entirety. Its only standing contribution to the series continuity is that the Brotherhood at some point established an outpost in Chicago. Barnaky, Gamorrin, the Calculator, Vault Zero--none of it happened. It nonetheless stands as a time capsule, a look both at where Fallout and turn-based strategy stood circa 2001.
FT, overall, had a more somber and darker mood to it than either F1 or F2, which to me felt very fitting in a post-apocalyptic setting. Not just the music - even the ambient noises spoke of desolation and decay (and that's probably why some got reused in F4 for downtown Boston area, wonder if anyone noticed). For me, only Lonesome Road from NV came close after that. An overlooked and forgotten little gem from Interplay.
Vasiliy Shukshin I don’t know about that. New Vegas was predominantly light hearted, with the exception of Dead Money and Lonesome Road. As for the first two games, Fallout 1 was unremittingly dark and bleak, due mostly to the art design, plot elements, and mark morgans outright ghastly musical score. Fallout 2 was fairly dark, but considerably on the lighter side with more of an emphasis on black comedy.
Most people ignored this game because it was a tactical game, but the story was amazing and it did improve the tactics of the game and introduce massive UI improvements over previous games. It lacked the overworld and most of those RPG elements, but on a map by map basis it was a tactical RPG game in a way that even Wasteland 2 failed to deliver. Because in both games choices made in each map mean very little. At least in Tactics if you leveled wrong you knew it. In Wasteland, they streamlined easy gameplay even though they claim choices matter they do not. It is a much easier game filled with more combat then tactics, which is odd because it was an only combat game. Why doesn't choosing water or food in Wasteland 2 effect everything or even anything later in the game, not even one simple mission to find a food/water source when you chose one over the other early in the game. It was a failed concept that they forgot about shortly after announcing it. Nothing effects anything else on another map. Fallout 1/2 and Tactics had just as much choice, but when it only matters in one map, it doesn't truly matter. Hopefully Wasteland 3 can deliver, but I am guessing it will be more of the same. Not a bad game mind you, just more of the same, not groundbreaking in any way and choices didn't matter like they claimed. Wasteland 3 more game-play from the 90s with no innovation. Don't get me wrong, I'll probably play it, but it will be anything but more of the same. No innovation, no choices actually effecting anything major over the course of the game and now forced combat. Fallout 1/2 had options to avoid almost all combat. How is Wasteland a superior game by any metric I just don't understand. New Vegas was better then Wasteland 2, and I prefer the 2D isometric style games. Shows you how much a clueless director actually influences a game. Turns out the programming team and their ideas matter much more. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy Wasteland 2, but much less then Fallout 1/2/Tactics/New Vegas. By that metric they failed in any real measure. If you cannot deliver a better experience then games released well over a decade ago. Then you win by default I guess, but only because no one else is competing. So how is that truly a win when you deliver an arguably inferior game at best? Even Bethesda gave up on the (actual) choice bit in the games that they actually made 3/4. TL;DR: Wasteland 2 and Fallout 3+ are great examples of teams taking the game/series in differing directions but none of them innovate anything or do anything that creates any more choices then what we had in 1996. It is sad that even the original game director couldn't deliver on that promise. Programming matters a lot and a talented versus InXile shows you at least that much. They delivered a 7/8 at best. If you had nostalgia carrying you I could see going higher as TotalHalibut did, but releasing Fallout in 2014 without lore that could rival it and a director stuck in the past they were destined to mediocrity.
The MW BoS is actually the best faction in the wasteland because: >They can accept anyone into their ranks (tribals, robots, ghouls, supermutants, deathclaws) >They have vault technology and heavy weaponry >They actually help people >Strict military chain of command
How to make FO Tactics Canon: The Military vault met BoS Scouts from the core Region (California, Nevada, Oregon etc) who traveled there, when they returned to the Lost Hills Bunker they told the elders about Old pre-War technology from the early 21st century, which had come out of Military Bunkers and Stockpiles. The Army Vault was officially absorbed in the brotherhood where the core Elders marked them as the Midwest BoS.
This doesn't seem so implausible if we consider that Maxson managed to communicate with other army units and even sent an expedition cross-country in Fallout 76. An alternate way to see it is that the "Military Vault" thing is an account being told from the point of view of someone in the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel. The Brotherhood always eschewed the learning of history, Caesar himself remarks that he had some Brotherhood scribes they captured out east and these people didn't even know the name of the founder of their order (Roger Maxson). So eventually the whole "Military Vault" may have become a big piece of bad history inside that particular group, an historical game of telephone, pretty much.
I would say it mixed both. Weaponry and vehicles itself more 90/2000ish style. But architecture is retro 1950s futurism. Fallout 76 feels for me more like early 1960s style.
Or another reason, the Midwestern BOS is actually the mastermind/sponsor for Capitol Enclave to fight the Capitol BOS for their resource, water plans and other things. But since they're BOS, they hide themself and only control Capitol Enclave do their command. Since FO3's Enclave has Power armor which is similiar Midwestern BOS's Power Armor and the originals. Eden is Mid BOS's supervisor, that why Autumn and his troops not obey Eden's order easily.
All BoS come from Lost Hill, there are 2 group BoS go to the east, 1 group moving by Zepperlin but got stuck in Mid-western BoS by storm, another group moving to D.C . And the Vegas BoS is also come from Lost Hill with tradition ideas of BoS.
Wait, so the Brotherhood were originally from the West(California?) and the Brotherhood that got separated and went East is the same Brotherhood in Fallout 3? And the West Brotherhood is the same one in Fallout NV? Yes, I am new to this series. Also, can someone explain the Enclave origin, please?
The Enclave was the Pre-War Governemnt. Yes, you are right about the Brotherhood of Steel. They started in the west after an army task force went rogue a few days before the Great War. Later, they sent airships East, creating the Eastern brotherhood. Then one airship crash landed near Chicago creating the Mid-Western Brotherhood.
citiesxlpro1 Not necessarily. Within FO3, I recall an important character in the Citadel saying something about "..The Enclave sending reinforcements from out east". (Might have been Lyons, Rothchild, Peabody, Bowditch or Paladin Tristan...) There are also the few members in Nevada, and then as you've stated, ED-E. Though this is not confirmed, there has been some rumors/discussion of an Enclave appearance in FO4... I'd appreciate a reply soon... Thanks. c:
Yknow sometime I wonder how that conversation went down in the truck “So Chicago huh? Heard this place was a shithole pre war” “Yeah, and it hasn’t got any better”
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It can depend but i'm not sure they will have good relations. The Midwestern Brotherhood is still applying the BOS main goal, protecting the world from the threat of technology. Meanwhile the NCR is messing with power armors and the weapons of the Enclave while being very expantionist. And at first the NCR may be like 'oh a another Brotherhood we will just storm them with our manpower' The Midwestern chapter is not like any Brotherhood is have plenty of men. So at best cold relations with some borders incidents. At worst a war between the 2. And i put my money on the Midwestern Brotherhood. But that only my thoughts
All in all, the Brotherhood is all the same. If you played Fallout 3 and talked to the higher ranked guys in the Citadel, they'll piece together that Elder Lyons was sent to the ruins of D.C. to do what the BoS does, that is search for past technology but then just creates his own chapter of the BoS and they settle there.
Man I want to drive a brotherhood of steel hummer in a fallout game. If There's Ever Another fallout game It Better Have Vehicles in it Because Me And My Friends The Lone wanderer and the sole Survivor are tired of walking. Seriously Bethesda And I'm Looking At U too Obsidian Don't Think That The courier isn't tired of walking either.
Yes and No. They were soldiers and their families from Mariposa Military Base, who after bombs fell relocated to Lost Hills government bunker, where brotherhood was founded.
they probably where from a secret millitary base/vault, and when the BoS found them, they were absorbed by them and named the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel
Hi we are vault-Tec and every thing underground is ours! All of it, any thing you can think of we made it, vault 69 yup, Marraposa? Yup. F.E.V. Our idea! Oh we love America
I do speak a little - sometimes I use e-dictionary - I see that I missed some words or wrote them incorretly here. --- but you for sure used some google-translator in your previous message what you sent to me before ( about Fallout 3 ) - because it did not make almost any sense in Czech.
Tre Reyes the Mississippi river goes to the city. the Illinois border is made of Mississippi, so wouldn't the brotherhood have trade routes using the river
Holy shit a 80s Hummer Military Vehicle! and blues sounding hard rock Lynyrd Skynyrd style! IN A FALLOUT Game thats suppose to be early 1960s.......and Fallout 76 has a Country Roads song from 1971. so u know. fuck the timeline i Want the 80s and back!
I'm a bit late but yeah, I like how Fallout is supposed to be 1940s-1960s vibes retro futurism. But then Fallout Tactics uses 1980s-2000s vibes and retro futurism
@@OperatorMax1993the whole timeline split in 1947, so all sorts of wacky things could have happened. The same people doing the same things, but maybe in different situations. Elvis existed, and so do the Beach Boys, which means The Beetles and The Doors could exist as well. They used Huey helicopters during the Korean conflict (as seen in the museum in fallout 4) so it is also plausible they had made and used the UH-1 Huey as well. Jeeps existed in this universe as well, and Humvees are literally the next model after the Willy Jeep, so it is also plausible to exist. The colt commando, M-16 and G3 exist in Fallout, so it also plausible to have the p-90, Desert Eagle, M-14, MP5, Barrett 50. and even something like an M-72 LAW since the grenade launcher exists. Also, Combat helmets in the fallout games resemble our modern day Kevlar style, so it is also plausible that our military tech was similar to our timeline, and after the gas crisis of the 2020's, we had to start going full Nuclear, so our tech and way of life switched and adapted to the change of the resource wars.
Why does this game have the incorrect origin for the BOS, they didn't come from a vault. They were military deserters who founded the organisation after the war started and then went to a bunker in lost hills to make they're base.
Anibal Morales no they all came from military vaults and when vault 0 the vault that allowed all vaults to comunicat signals went down they gathered up all there technology and set out across the wastes to find more and to find out what happend to vault 0 and also to help humanity a little along the way
Anibal Morales no they all came from military vaults and when vault 0 the vault that allowed all vaults to comunicat signals went down they gathered up all there technology and set out across the wastes to find more and to find out what happend to vault 0 and also to help humanity a little along the way
well we don't know much about that area of the world ,tactics takes place something like 60 or 80 years before the new games ,much could have transpired in that time .the little we do know is that there is an enclave base near chicago and that there still is a BOS pressence near the vault 0 area
Amaria Hummel I guess that's a possibility, they probably have some sort of fuel that can act similar to oil, but hopefully for them is easier to come by and burns longer.
if they are using bio-fuel or engineering basically bio-diesel, even if they can get it through plant based extracts, it must still be really hard to produce enough of it when they drive around in hulking armored vehicles. then again it did say they had been stock piling everything they needed for years before the bombs fell, so I guess they had also created a supply of fuel in addition to a way to produce more.
Enclave is U.S Gorverment renmant, they were destroyed in Fallout 2 by Chosen One and are chased through the west coast by NCR army, but don't know reason that they are freaking large and strong in Fallout 3.
Wait. Sherman tank is real IRL. That mean it is canon in Fallout. That means the national guard has some. *WELL ISN'T THE BATTLE OF THE DAM GOING TO BE FUN!*
Bugthesda's "Fallout" 3 tried to apply all these ideas from Fallout Tactics for the East Coast BOS chapter in Washington DC but in the most shallow war possible due to how awful the writing was and still is. There are only a few things in "Fallout" 3 that I would consider canon. I liked Sarah Lyons as a character even though her dialogue was bad but she was a cool character.
Yes, yes they did. Because Bethesda doesn't do anything original with Fallout. They steal and replicate, with poor, surface level alterations, rather than create. And it always come out worse.
I violently reject this lol, I know you mean it as an FPS style RPG respecting the spirit of the original ala New Vegas, but with Bethesda they would ruin my childhood.
The end quote, "Life in the Brotherhood is about to change." is a reference to the first Fallout intro end quote, "Life is the Vault is about to change."
the canon state of this game is that the major events did happen, so yes the midwestern brotherhood exists
SEMI CANON
@@synthwave_junkie5010 I wish they would just make it full canon cuz that would mean in Florida there's basically Gator Deathclaws, and an Entire State that's Vault 22
It’s fully canon, heh.
Synthwave Addict Fully
@@rescuerex7031
What was the scenario for vault 22?
Man, what a game. One of my all time favorites. And Ron Perlman narrating and R. Lee Ermey as a general Barnaky... Games will never be this epic.
I loved Barnaky at the end a lot too.
fun fact : this game was declared non-cannon because they would have had to pay his family royalties to use it even though it fits perfectly with the lore and bethesda are money crooks
@@garadak7.fun fact: you made that up.
To people wondering about the canon-ness of this game, Bethesda has said that while most of the game is non-canon, the most important main plot thread of the game IS canon. Presumably, the ending where the Calculator self-destructs is the canon one as obviously the rest of the Brotherhood hasn't heard from them yet, on either coast. In the other endings they likely would have.
So the Midwestern Brotherhood is canon in Bethesda’s “lore” then. Good all I needed to know
Well the other ending would make them OP.
So that's why they went with the worst ending possible even though i always put myself as the new calculator because that makes fucking sense.
Doesn’t matter, it’ll always be canon to me.
@@The_mrbob good thing is Tactics is located so far away from the other game location that its not complicated to make it canon because it doesn affect anything
That roaring engine and ratty ass blues guitar combo keeps bringing me back to this at least once a year. I love it.
Fallout: Tactics....the only game where you can actually drive around vehicles
Jake Branthe Fallout Tactics, the only game with REAL graphics and better animations compared to the newer games
Ahem, fallout 2
@@CPorter I mean, technically true. But what I mean by driving around is you actually _drive vehicles around_ in the scenarios. Like actually using it in combat to act like a mobile bunkers and stuff
It makes me think the original vision for the Fallout universe was that technology would eventually be restored to certain levels of pre-war functionality. Just looking at the games the original creators worked on, only one game started in a vault. Fallout 2 started in Arroyo as a tribal, and in New Vegas you start as a Courier, and in Van Buren you were going to start on a prison transport. To me, that shows that the Wasteland was actually meant to advance with each game. Only Fallout 1 showed a truly untamed Wasteland from the perspective of a Vault Dweller.
You know what I have never thought about it like that but I think your onto something
Favorite Brotherhood is this one.
Less idiotic than the Western one and less"knightly" than the eastern one.
TRULY pragmatic.
I dunno people hated this game, i personally loved it.
***** I think it's because of less RPG-ish gameplay, far less options to win (basically, kill everything is only option in 99% cases) and quite tiresome turn based combat (RT one is really good for 6 characters tho).
Oh and fact it isn't "Fallout 3".
If only people knew...
It isn't bad game tho. I mean, even if You think it's worst Fallout games (arguably NOT) the quality level is pretty damn high.
Local Ork
It's a tactical game in the Fallout universe.
It's not an RPG, more like Xcom in fallout world.
I loved playing CTB ( Continuous Turn Based ) Fallout Tactics.
And i still play it in multiplayer with friends.
***** Funny thing is that the creators of fallout originally meant for it to play like this because they were influenced by Xcom.
rorschach1985ify
Supposedly this is how Wasteland 2 will be.
Not sure if I like this idea of guiding a "group" rather than the a "lone wolf".
We'll see how it turns out i guess...
It's a good Brotherhood. I hope to see it in 4
This game makes me want to see MWB again. They are the best BoS of all three. They deserve to be used in new Fallout part.
Would be nice, but Tactics was deemed non-canon by Bethesda.
ORBrunner maybe a tactics 2 because you know strategy rts games are becoming popular again
the major events in tactics are cannon because they are mentioned in other games so yeah it is mostly cannon.
It's very interesting seeing these years old comments regarding Tactics canonicity with all we've been given now. Originally it was just the main events of the game that were canon, then we kept getting more and more details from New Vegas to 4 to Wasteland Warfare. Even the few lore inconsistencies in Tactics were given an in-universe excuse by the devs on New Vegas, lol. Though it's odd there are still some folk who'll take it to their graves arguing nothing in this game is relevant to the main continuity.
I still wonder why people hate this game so hard
@@LordVader1094 because at the time of it release it wasn't a Fallout 3.
Add the lore contradiction (bit to ne fair the game was created in one year by a team who wasn't Interplay/Black Isles)
And also the fact it full name is Fallout tactics : Brotherhood of Steel.
Proviking confusion with Fallout : Brotherhood of Steel.
Because that's true. As of 2023, at least, the game is non-canon in its entirety. Its only standing contribution to the series continuity is that the Brotherhood at some point established an outpost in Chicago. Barnaky, Gamorrin, the Calculator, Vault Zero--none of it happened.
It nonetheless stands as a time capsule, a look both at where Fallout and turn-based strategy stood circa 2001.
FT, overall, had a more somber and darker mood to it than either F1 or F2, which to me felt very fitting in a post-apocalyptic setting. Not just the music - even the ambient noises spoke of desolation and decay (and that's probably why some got reused in F4 for downtown Boston area, wonder if anyone noticed). For me, only Lonesome Road from NV came close after that.
An overlooked and forgotten little gem from Interplay.
Vasiliy Shukshin I don’t know about that. New Vegas was predominantly light hearted, with the exception of Dead Money and Lonesome Road. As for the first two games, Fallout 1 was unremittingly dark and bleak, due mostly to the art design, plot elements, and mark morgans outright ghastly musical score. Fallout 2 was fairly dark, but considerably on the lighter side with more of an emphasis on black comedy.
The first battle, the squeeking of metal on metal sound has stuck with me for years. I hear that sound and think of Fallout Tactics.
Imagine surviving a zeplin crash only to find out it crashed outside Chicago they can't catch a break
Fallout Tactics was such a great game.
Most people ignored this game because it was a tactical game, but the story was amazing and it did improve the tactics of the game and introduce massive UI improvements over previous games. It lacked the overworld and most of those RPG elements, but on a map by map basis it was a tactical RPG game in a way that even Wasteland 2 failed to deliver. Because in both games choices made in each map mean very little. At least in Tactics if you leveled wrong you knew it.
In Wasteland, they streamlined easy gameplay even though they claim choices matter they do not. It is a much easier game filled with more combat then tactics, which is odd because it was an only combat game. Why doesn't choosing water or food in Wasteland 2 effect everything or even anything later in the game, not even one simple mission to find a food/water source when you chose one over the other early in the game. It was a failed concept that they forgot about shortly after announcing it. Nothing effects anything else on another map.
Fallout 1/2 and Tactics had just as much choice, but when it only matters in one map, it doesn't truly matter. Hopefully Wasteland 3 can deliver, but I am guessing it will be more of the same. Not a bad game mind you, just more of the same, not groundbreaking in any way and choices didn't matter like they claimed. Wasteland 3 more game-play from the 90s with no innovation. Don't get me wrong, I'll probably play it, but it will be anything but more of the same. No innovation, no choices actually effecting anything major over the course of the game and now forced combat. Fallout 1/2 had options to avoid almost all combat. How is Wasteland a superior game by any metric I just don't understand. New Vegas was better then Wasteland 2, and I prefer the 2D isometric style games. Shows you how much a clueless director actually influences a game. Turns out the programming team and their ideas matter much more.
Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy Wasteland 2, but much less then Fallout 1/2/Tactics/New Vegas. By that metric they failed in any real measure. If you cannot deliver a better experience then games released well over a decade ago. Then you win by default I guess, but only because no one else is competing. So how is that truly a win when you deliver an arguably inferior game at best? Even Bethesda gave up on the (actual) choice bit in the games that they actually made 3/4.
TL;DR: Wasteland 2 and Fallout 3+ are great examples of teams taking the game/series in differing directions but none of them innovate anything or do anything that creates any more choices then what we had in 1996. It is sad that even the original game director couldn't deliver on that promise. Programming matters a lot and a talented versus InXile shows you at least that much. They delivered a 7/8 at best. If you had nostalgia carrying you I could see going higher as TotalHalibut did, but releasing Fallout in 2014 without lore that could rival it and a director stuck in the past they were destined to mediocrity.
The MW BoS is actually the best faction in the wasteland because:
>They can accept anyone into their ranks (tribals, robots, ghouls, supermutants, deathclaws)
>They have vault technology and heavy weaponry
>They actually help people
>Strict military chain of command
The Awesome Pie126 I think you did not understood that he wasn't talking about fallout 4's BoS. He was talking about Fallout Tactics.
That's why the rest of the BoS got pissed with them
Yeah, but they are as brutal as the legion.
They can accept or deny anyone depending on what happens during the missions. There are many different endings to Tactics which make it truly special!
Damn these guys are are like giants compared to the enclave
If that song wasn't originally supposed to be Free Bird, I'll be surprised, because that right there is a lawyer friendly Free Bird guitar solo.
They gotta make a New Vegas type Fallout set in the Chicago area🙌🏽🙌🏽
5:18-6:43 I've always loved this incredibly uplifting piece of music.
What an awesome game! I love it!
How to make FO Tactics Canon:
The Military vault met BoS Scouts from the core Region (California, Nevada, Oregon etc) who traveled there, when they returned to the Lost Hills Bunker they told the elders about Old pre-War technology from the early 21st century, which had come out of Military Bunkers and Stockpiles. The Army Vault was officially absorbed in the brotherhood where the core Elders marked them as the Midwest BoS.
This doesn't seem so implausible if we consider that Maxson managed to communicate with other army units and even sent an expedition cross-country in Fallout 76.
An alternate way to see it is that the "Military Vault" thing is an account being told from the point of view of someone in the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel. The Brotherhood always eschewed the learning of history, Caesar himself remarks that he had some Brotherhood scribes they captured out east and these people didn't even know the name of the founder of their order (Roger Maxson).
So eventually the whole "Military Vault" may have become a big piece of bad history inside that particular group, an historical game of telephone, pretty much.
2:09 when i saw this scene *i thought it was* a Racing game.
This game was a great follow on from Fallout 1 and 2. Deserves more credit 👍
whats a chicago
Pretty sure they just made it up?
This animation will always be awesome.
By that age that buggy animations and that magazine drop couldnt get better done...
Fallout 1-76 1950s fallout tactics decided to use 1980-90s theme
I would say it mixed both. Weaponry and vehicles itself more 90/2000ish style. But architecture is retro 1950s futurism.
Fallout 76 feels for me more like early 1960s style.
@@dragonlukasmapping805 oh ok
And I quite love that
Yes the 1950s had a lot of retro futurism. But even the 1980s-2000s had it too
Or another reason, the Midwestern BOS is actually the mastermind/sponsor for Capitol Enclave to fight the Capitol BOS for their resource, water plans and other things. But since they're BOS, they hide themself and only control Capitol Enclave do their command. Since FO3's Enclave has Power armor which is similiar Midwestern BOS's Power Armor and the originals. Eden is Mid BOS's supervisor, that why Autumn and his troops not obey Eden's order easily.
Reminds me of the Prydwen
I think in one of the terminals in the prydwen, it mentions a BoS airship crashed in Chicago
i like that music that is playing we need that in Fallout 3 and New Vegas
will join the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 after that pic 5:58
All BoS come from Lost Hill, there are 2 group BoS go to the east, 1 group moving by Zepperlin but got stuck in Mid-western BoS by storm, another group moving to D.C . And the Vegas BoS is also come from Lost Hill with tradition ideas of BoS.
they got the music and ambience spot on in this game
Wait, so the Brotherhood were originally from the West(California?) and the Brotherhood that got separated and went East is the same Brotherhood in Fallout 3? And the West Brotherhood is the same one in Fallout NV? Yes, I am new to this series. Also, can someone explain the Enclave origin, please?
The Enclave was the Pre-War Governemnt. Yes, you are right about the Brotherhood of Steel. They started in the west after an army task force went rogue a few days before the Great War. Later, they sent airships East, creating the Eastern brotherhood. Then one airship crash landed near Chicago creating the Mid-Western Brotherhood.
The Enclave is basically the US's Illuminati branch. The shadow powers behind the US govt.
They get nuked by a tribal in Fallout 2 lol
I only watched this video to see if it has the "war, war never changes" line.
When I found it I clapped.
thats a long ass intro
citiesxlpro1 Not necessarily. Within FO3, I recall an important character in the Citadel saying something about "..The Enclave sending reinforcements from out east". (Might have been Lyons, Rothchild, Peabody, Bowditch or Paladin Tristan...)
There are also the few members in Nevada, and then as you've stated, ED-E.
Though this is not confirmed, there has been some rumors/discussion of an Enclave appearance in FO4...
I'd appreciate a reply soon... Thanks. c:
Chell Johnson Its been a year, yes. But here is your reply.
+El Skeletor lol
Does anyone know the track played in the book cutscene ?
Yknow sometime I wonder how that conversation went down in the truck
“So Chicago huh? Heard this place was a shithole pre war”
“Yeah, and it hasn’t got any better”
Call of Duty: War, war never changes
Call of Duty: the game... the game never changes.
Andres Cobo Lmao good one
hambone0000 in russian "call of duty" sounds like excrements insufflation...
Is anyone else getting a Cars vibe from the animation?
I thought this as better than any of the first person ones... wit 2 hands down being the best.
this is suprisingly good
I just bought collectin Fallout 1,2, Tactics in e-shop with pc games.
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Welcome 2022.09.21, this video is now more timely than ever.
Holy shit! A working vehicle in a Fallout game?!
bruh
Considering bthe canon ending of new vegas, I wonder what will happen when the NCR encounters the Midwestern brotherhood branch.
It can depend but i'm not sure they will have good relations.
The Midwestern Brotherhood is still applying the BOS main goal, protecting the world from the threat of technology.
Meanwhile the NCR is messing with power armors and the weapons of the Enclave while being very expantionist.
And at first the NCR may be like 'oh a another Brotherhood we will just storm them with our manpower'
The Midwestern chapter is not like any Brotherhood is have plenty of men.
So at best cold relations with some borders incidents.
At worst a war between the 2.
And i put my money on the Midwestern Brotherhood.
But that only my thoughts
I like a lot of the newer changes and ideas Bethesda brought to fallout. But man they need to bring back the older stuff
Tried to load this up on my newest laptop. Seems to be a no go.
Anyone got an old Midwestern Brotherhood Power Armor mesh to dust off and rig for Fallout 4?
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Love our community
What Blues song is that in the beginning and who is it by?????????
Ain't got no lovin'
1:46 'radroach' did not exists in the Midwest yet? or did roach needs another century to grow its size?
no Bethesda retconning remakes? should there be any?
holy crap. i need to get this.
Actually the only remnant of the Enclave is ED-E, i believe its ED-E because the Enclave built there Data into it.
Dude,there is literally a faction callled the enclave remnants, they have a vertibird and multiple suits of power armor
Replace “vault dwellers” with “survivors” and the intro makes more sense with the lore. 5:17
Great game, I would play Fallout: Tactics 2, but this time with "charisma" attribute. Charisma was usekess in FT1. Afterwar games is good
2:56 that book looked like cardboard, odd.
All in all, the Brotherhood is all the same. If you played Fallout 3 and talked to the higher ranked guys in the Citadel, they'll piece together that Elder Lyons was sent to the ruins of D.C. to do what the BoS does, that is search for past technology but then just creates his own chapter of the BoS and they settle there.
Tactics is a very underrated game.
Tanks
The tank diagram at 3:38 looks a lot better than the knock off c&c tanks we see rusting in fallout 4.
Damn, the story was great. Wish they had todays resources back then.
Man I want to drive a brotherhood of steel hummer in a fallout game. If There's Ever Another fallout game It Better Have Vehicles in it Because Me And My Friends The Lone wanderer and the sole Survivor are tired of walking. Seriously Bethesda And I'm Looking At U too Obsidian Don't Think That The courier isn't tired of walking either.
You poor fool.
They were limited by the outdated as fuck Engine Bethesda was using (actually, they still are)
Fallout the Frontier, a mod for fallout New Vegas will be release in 2020 or 2021 will inclued driverble vehicles like vertibirds and tanks etc.
@@vladimirpootis3200 and it was CRINGE
@@renadex4905 Yup. My comment age like milk.
Semi canon
What's the Chicago blues playing in the background? Who's playing? Some1 knows?
Mordy Ferber - Ain't Got No Lovin
@@VaultBoy1321 Gravy thanks!
I thought it had been established in either Fallout 1 or 2 that the Brotherhood did not come from any sort of Vault...
Yes and No. They were soldiers and their families from Mariposa Military Base, who after bombs fell relocated to Lost Hills government bunker, where brotherhood was founded.
@@Khrodeas yeah and neither Mariposa Military base nor Lost Hills are vaults, that's the controversy with this intro
@@elmoradordelrefugio8910 I don't think that future generations of those people (and their exiles) would care about such semantics.
What's a Chicago?
they probably where from a secret millitary base/vault, and when the BoS found them, they were absorbed by them and named the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel
YES
Hi we are vault-Tec and every thing underground is ours! All of it, any thing you can think of we made it, vault 69 yup, Marraposa? Yup. F.E.V. Our idea! Oh we love America
+The Awesome Pie126 FALLOUT 4 IS NON CANON
Soon.....! :))
I do speak a little - sometimes I use e-dictionary - I see that I missed some words or wrote them incorretly here.
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but you for sure used some google-translator in your previous message what you sent to me before ( about Fallout 3 ) - because it did not make almost any sense in Czech.
Ahoj, takže ty jsi čech :) Dobrá hra btw, hrál jsem ji asi šestkrát za život.
somehow post-apocolyptic chicago is LESS crime ridden than modern day chicago
there is a fallout New Orleans will we see the midwestern Brotherhood of Steel again
if there is a Fallout New Orleans
Commanderone well sense that was confirmed a hoax it probably won't happen but maybe they could come back I don't know
Even if there was, how does New Orleans=Midwestern Brotherhood? New Orleans is in the South.
Tre Reyes the Mississippi river goes to the city. the Illinois border is made of Mississippi, so wouldn't the brotherhood have trade routes using the river
If we do, I hope it's very little. They need to start coming up with new big factions.
Instead of making fallout 1,2 or tactics remastered in the new 3D world's. They make a shitty multiplayer game. Rip Bethesda
Holy shit a 80s Hummer Military Vehicle! and blues sounding hard rock Lynyrd Skynyrd style! IN A FALLOUT Game thats suppose to be early 1960s.......and Fallout 76 has a Country Roads song from 1971. so u know. fuck the timeline i Want the 80s and back!
I'm a bit late but yeah, I like how Fallout is supposed to be 1940s-1960s vibes retro futurism. But then Fallout Tactics uses 1980s-2000s vibes and retro futurism
@@OperatorMax1993the whole timeline split in 1947, so all sorts of wacky things could have happened. The same people doing the same things, but maybe in different situations. Elvis existed, and so do the Beach Boys, which means The Beetles and The Doors could exist as well. They used Huey helicopters during the Korean conflict (as seen in the museum in fallout 4) so it is also plausible they had made and used the UH-1 Huey as well. Jeeps existed in this universe as well, and Humvees are literally the next model after the Willy Jeep, so it is also plausible to exist. The colt commando, M-16 and G3 exist in Fallout, so it also plausible to have the p-90, Desert Eagle, M-14, MP5, Barrett 50. and even something like an M-72 LAW since the grenade launcher exists. Also, Combat helmets in the fallout games resemble our modern day Kevlar style, so it is also plausible that our military tech was similar to our timeline, and after the gas crisis of the 2020's, we had to start going full Nuclear, so our tech and way of life switched and adapted to the change of the resource wars.
But, does chicago actually look like that? The terrain here seems very hilly and deserty.
That's the point, all the plant life was destroyed by nuclear hell-fire, leaving only a barren desert.
Kid, you are aware of what "post-apocolyptic" defers to, are you not?
the brotherhood weren't vault dwellers.
@nikolai bahtin No, They started there before the war and then moved to Lost hills then it was nuked by the Chinese.
Vietnam War is canon, sweet
How old is this game?
should i get this game? i love the fallout series, but i havent played this one
You've had 11 years to think on this. Have you decided yet?
yeah sure, buy it. buy buy buy
Ironic, we're here now and preparing for WW3.
.45 seconds it talks about the pandemic. Wow
Why does this game have the incorrect origin for the BOS, they didn't come from a vault. They were military deserters who founded the organisation after the war started and then went to a bunker in lost hills to make they're base.
it's in another universe separate from fallout 1, 2, 3, 4 and NV.
I think it was actually just a mistake because this game was made by a different studio. Also it's not in a separate game just not confirmed cannon.
That's why Bethesda Game has said it on record that this game isn't canon.
it's semi canon.
Michael Do The MidWest bos is Canon but what happens ingame is not
There are a few serious lore contradictions in this intro. No wonder it's considered "semi-canon."
How so?
MrMortsnarg It calls the BoS "vault dwellers." That's not their origin.
Anibal Morales no they all came from military vaults and when vault 0 the vault that allowed all vaults to comunicat signals went down they gathered up all there technology and set out across the wastes to find more and to find out what happend to vault 0 and also to help humanity a little along the way
Anibal Morales no they all came from military vaults and when vault 0 the vault that allowed all vaults to comunicat signals went down they gathered up all there technology and set out across the wastes to find more and to find out what happend to vault 0 and also to help humanity a little along the way
xXtrousasnakeXx The BoS came from Mariposa Military Base and later moved to Lost Hills. Get your lore right.
I miss when Fallout was well-written.
You say that as if Tactics wasn't the dumbest game of the originals lol
Yer not the Top of the Triangle.
Your not even close.
What's so special about Chicago in the fallout universe?
+Talendril nothing that i can think off ,i do remember in new vegas it being mentioned that there is an enclave base there
***** kellogg lived in san francisco, oddly enough something simular to the institute
***** he moved to SF with his wife and daughter so i think he was born in boneyard
well we don't know much about that area of the world ,tactics takes place something like 60 or 80 years before the new games ,much could have transpired in that time .the little we do know is that there is an enclave base near chicago and that there still is a BOS pressence near the vault 0 area
I think the enclave had a base somewhere in Chicago.
how can their be oil powered cars in a post apocalypse time?
+Albert Wolford they're electrical, probably run on fusion cores like the rest of the BOS equipment
+Zelly64 if you listen closly those cars had combustion engines but even than if you modifie a diesel engine a bit it can run on frying oil ;)
Amaria Hummel
I guess that's a possibility, they probably have some sort of fuel that can act similar to oil, but hopefully for them is easier to come by and burns longer.
Zelly64 ethanol frying oil hydrogen/oxygen and so much more :) hell they can make fuel out of most organic matter ;)
if they are using bio-fuel or engineering basically bio-diesel, even if they can get it through plant based extracts, it must still be really hard to produce enough of it when they drive around in hulking armored vehicles.
then again it did say they had been stock piling everything they needed for years before the bombs fell, so I guess they had also created a supply of fuel in addition to a way to produce more.
What is the song called?
Darude sandstorm
-overused meme
Sean Muller Why do you bother? The only good thing you did was acknowledge that it's overused
I couldn't resist
Sean Muller Tell me something i don't know
a fox makes over 47 sounds
Enclave is U.S Gorverment renmant, they were destroyed in Fallout 2 by Chosen One and are chased through the west coast by NCR army, but don't know reason that they are freaking large and strong in Fallout 3.
pirotess2 that had oil rigs and bunkers everywhere
how old is the game?
djzombieking 17ish years (2001)
I can see why they'd consider this one non-canonical. I don't see a 1950s retrofuture world coming up with a vehicle like the HMMWV.
Fallout 2 literally has the P90
@@thebronjame5777 ssssshhh. Don't mention that, it ruins their peabrains when you try to explain contemporary retrofuturism.
@@thebronjame5777also the G11 and HK CAWS
@theoldguard6143
Wake up baby, new concept just dropped!
@@mrdeyvid343 Nope. Rejected. Jettisoned. Watch the chemtrail, there it goes, out the door.
Do you acutally speak English, or do you use a translation program?
What?
Wait. Sherman tank is real IRL.
That mean it is canon in Fallout.
That means the national guard has some.
*WELL ISN'T THE BATTLE OF THE DAM GOING TO BE FUN!*
At 0:42 seconds talks about the pandemic. This was ahead of time…
3:15 Chicago, year 2022
nuka-cola FTW!!!!
0:42 they predict coronavirus
I know right.
I do not consider Fallout 3 canon at all!
Same name and a few liknesses but that is all.
Fallout Tactics was great but COULD have been better!
Fallout 3 is "It who we shall not name" !
cr4yv3n Bethesda made a game worse than 3.... 4
Erk they made one worse than four long ago...
Excuse me how are there working vehicles but everywhere else there isn’t I guess it’s just a cut scene
Bugthesda's "Fallout" 3 tried to apply all these ideas from Fallout Tactics for the East Coast BOS chapter in Washington DC but in the most shallow war possible due to how awful the writing was and still is. There are only a few things in "Fallout" 3 that I would consider canon. I liked Sarah Lyons as a character even though her dialogue was bad but she was a cool character.
Okay Boomer/Zoomer/Doomers, whatever age or variety of cynical asshat you are.
Yes, yes they did. Because Bethesda doesn't do anything original with Fallout.
They steal and replicate, with poor, surface level alterations, rather than create. And it always come out worse.
@@DarthWall275"HE NO LIKE WHAT I LIKE :((((("
the enclave pa from 3 literally rips off this games pa
😞😔😟😢
honestly fallout 1,2,and tactics should be remade to a first person shooter like fallout 3,new vegas and 4
I was thinking about this. it will make the younger generation of Fallout gamers appreciate the originals.
seeing the Master & Frank hoorigan in next gen would be amazing
that would be awesome if they ever did
No fucking way man
I violently reject this lol, I know you mean it as an FPS style RPG respecting the spirit of the original ala New Vegas, but with Bethesda they would ruin my childhood.