Best Handling Car for £80,000? | Lancia Delta Integrale vs Lotus Emira V6 | Sports Car Shootout
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- With the Lancia Delta integrale and the Lotus Emira, I realised that I currently owned two amazing cars that got a lot of attention AND were epic handling cars on the road and that both were a similar price.
Where would your £80,000 go?
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0:00 - About the Cars
3:05 - The Looks
3:32 - Seats
5:19 - Steering Wheels
8:09 - Instruments
9:40 - Technology
11:53 - Pedal Setup
13:01 - Driving and Public Attention
14:11 - Chassis & Suspension
16:29 - Comfort
17:37 - Steering & Handling
19:16 - The Gears
20:21 - The Pedals in Use
21:13 - Balance & Traction
23:45 - Finesse
24:55 - FEEL!!
26:22 - Summary
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As a child of the 80s who never missed the teatime, Top gear rally report with William Woollard, the Lancia is one of the greatest cars ever made, especially in Martini livery.
Yeah, I still do not know that single moment when I first saw the car, or fell it love with it.
I do know that I saw one nearly every working day on my commute to the City on the big roundabout bear Richmond in the mid to late 90s. I always looked forward to seeing it. Even now, the car just stands out and when people do look at it, with more than a casual glance, they see something that is unusual. It gives off a vibe even to the uninitiated.
Ade
That Delta Integrale looks mint. I'd have that as the values will likely be stronger over time.
Yeah, that has to be one of the strongest reasons to own one, plus one can actually really enjoy the car., I drive it properly after warming it up nicely.
Ade
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I know what you mean about the classic instrument setup in the Lancia but we are now so used to our cartech that, as a daily proposition, most if us cannot live without it. 👾
Yeah. It depends on overall use. There is no denying that the Lotus is far easier to live with.
Ade
Nice cars dude. A family car and a 2-seater. Perfect! Keep both.👍
I wish I could. Part of my plan to get y dream 25 cars is to have to sell these.
Ade
I prefer the integrale seats actually. Love the steering wheel. All in all, more of an event so perfect as a weekender. Lotus for the daily stuff.
Fair enough.
The integrale feels more of an event and experience once driving. I think the Emira is it's match before that.
Ade
If you're near Surrey and wish to see the cars, or drive them for your own channel, then let me know.
Ade
That Emira is gorgeous. Only seen one and looks a million dollars dude. 👌👌
Yeah, still pretty rare on UK roads even. It will never be common. People still don't know what it is. 😀
Ade
The Integrale is a completely different Car then the Lotus, I don’t think a “comparison” is possible due to that fact.
I would pick the Emira any day but I would also pick the Lancia any day but for completely different reasons!
Yeah, ha, it is impossible really but the comparison is fine in terms of them being the same cost. Such different cars with epic road covering ability.
Ade
The Emira is stunning
Agreed!
The emira needs a lighter red. I was coming round to this colour but this video is the confirmation I didn’t want no good for me 😣
The new colours out for the AMG 4cyl version has a lighter, flatter red.
I have seen the car in a lot of colours and it looks damn good in white too.
@@RevMonkey I much prefer the solid red of the exige s3 . Hoping they launch it as I would be sticking with the v6 lump. 25 years of lotus ownership and never known them launch a car where I am not keen on any of the colours 😬
@@marklawson8029 I too would have preferred more colour choice. I was after a lighter green and I was going to add the yellow touches to it.
Still, the Emira looks utterly amazing and I don't think any colour, even poo brown, would change that 😁
LOL. Watching this, my mind changed back and forwards. I need £160k mate.😁
Ha - yep, I have that problem too!
great video Ade! Nice to see you driving round my local roads too, I live in Walton-on Thames. So, for me, Lancia for the win, every time. I had an Evo 1 back in the early 2000's, really regret selling it. I've driven an Evora (which from what I hear is just a reskinned Emira) and it was OK, just a bit anodyne, whereas the Evo has soul and character. BTW - I'm an early 70's child ;)
Ah cool. You must have seen me in the Emira, F430 Spider or integrale at some point!
Yeah, ha, I sold my mint, low-mileage, standard Gaillo Evo2 in 2002, after 2 years of ownership, for £15600. One identical just sold at auction for £103,000! 🤔
I'm a late 60s child.
The Emira is fabulous. Feel free to pop round and I will show you both:
whichbikestaff@gmail.com for first contact.
Ade
Great comparison but I've got to favour the Emira, as a modern sports/supercar and used as a daily it just edges it for me, but then I'm biased. Aged 58 and an Emira owner! 😂
Ha, I am only 2 years younger with a dodgy back and the Emira is far more comfy, even with my sports suspension.
As a daily it wins by a margin to be honest.
BUT - if I could only drive one car, once for the very last time, it would be the integrale.
Larini exhaust now on my Emira - sounds INCREDIBLE. If you are near Surrey you are welcome to come round and sample it.
Ade
@RevMonkey I fell in love with the Emira when I first saw it, so I'm chuffed to own one now. I appreciate the Integrale for the absolute beast of a car that it was and still is but given the state of the roads and the amount of traffic in East Sussex it would hardly ever get driven as it should be.
@@paultune1696 Absolutely fair points, of course. It is a rough ride.
Speed wise, like for like on a twisty B-Road, I suspect a Pro might be a bit quicker but for everyone else, which means us, the Emira will cover the ground faster and with less stress at only 8/10ths.
Certainly love the car. I put a deposit down before the car was ever seen. It certainly surpassed my expectations. If they stop making the V6 cars then they will end up highly desirable.
Ade
Brilliant video, really love the passion that comes through for the Integrale. I've owned one since early 2000's and driven many other cars but there is a magic like you say with the Integrale, it just oozes that magic every time behind the wheel. Cherish it, enjoy it and keep driving it!
You've had the same one all that time or jumped in and out of a few?
I wish I had kept my Giallo Evo2 from 2000-2002 but then again.. they do cost a fair bit to look after over time. Well, the bottom end blew up on mine so I was a bit unlucky.
Very special cars. I will be taking mine out in the cold either later today or tomorrow for a nice run.
One can't appreciate the car on a normal test-drive. One would wonder what the fuss was about. Not fast, not a great sound and you get thrown about... but.. get to know the handling, be at one with the car, in the higher revs and it feels like nothing else. It takes complete liberties around corners.
If you are near Surrey , let me know!
I have a new video on the car out next week - why I think it might just be the best car ever made.
In a nutshell: kudos, heritage, looks, feel and all in a family hatchback!
Ade
@@RevMonkey Absolutely, use on on say a commute and it's brilliance wouldn't shine through, they come alive when making progress don't they ;)
I am based way north of Surrey but I am down that way to visit my brother through the year. Will le you know when I'm next visiting, would be great to see the Grale and meet you Ade. And to your question, yes owned since early 2000's the same Evo I in Winner Red. Love it!
@@evoman4434 Ah, cool.
Might not still have the car of course but I will have other cool cars!
I'd love to know how you buy the cars - i.e. is it a deposit & PCP, hire purchase, outright buy, etc? I'd love an Emira but not sure how to afford it. Thanks Ade
I finance all this in cash from my pension pot, when I took out the 25%!
Previous to that I did have cars on interest only finance with Charles & Dean.
As you may have seen, I need to sell these cars in order to buy the other cars on my 25 Car list. I LOVE these two cars but am sticking with my plan but would buy either of these cars again , for sure.
Interest rates have gone up so affordability has been hit and prices of most supercars/sportcars have dipped a bit.
If I was to finance a car then I'd look at how long I expect to own it, what the depreciation/appreciation might be and what I can comfortable afford monthly.
The Emira might be at a low. I recently heard that they have scaled back the building so price will pick up. They had too many and it impacted prices.
Ade
Awesome response, thanks so much!@@RevMonkey
I prefer the Lancia; however, in my opinion, it loses a lot of charm without the Alcantara seats. I'm not sure if it looks good in leather in real life, but in the video, the leather seems rather ordinary.
As for the Lotus, it looks good, but I find the fins and vents, although functional, to be a bit too large for this small car, which makes it appear even smaller. It seems a bit overdesigned.
Yeah, I do prefer the Alcantara that I had in my Evo 2 but have got used to the leather quickly and do like it. It needs a proper refurbishment really.
Interesting view on the vents and ducts. Very few people say the overall look of the car is anything less than amazing.
In isolation though, I would have preferred slightly different side vents. Case in point, I much prefer the smooth lines of the Ferrari 458 over the side ducted 488.
I will try and get out in the Lancia today. Been a week and I miss it!
Ade
Id go for the intergale. Its the history the psssion and nostagia of being 46 and takes me back to being a kid . The lancia you could only use on those special day's so its only ever going to be special where the amira is much more usable so may loose the special edge fairly quickly id imagine
That's what I thought. The integrale has been 100% faultless for the year I have had it so far. I am sure it can be dailied but overall it has not got the creature comforts that the Emira has.
I count myself VERY fortunate to currently have both and they are so similar yet so different!
He said italian car and a Ferrari drives by 😮 that was magic
Ha, when was that? Not watched this back for a while!
Keep both, but if I had to choose, Lancia any day of the week
Well, I would be very happy with that.
Right now, somebody is interested in the integrale. 😒
Intergrale every day a masterpiece
Absolutely. I am going out in it in a moment!
Nice Integrale, I gather it’s an evo1 as it has a sunroof etc? Verde York interior or retrimmed? Personally I really like that interior and seeking similar for mine. Great video and interesting comparison! 👍
Yes, an Evo 1 with Evo2 seats. I believe the side panel and rear seats are original so just sourced the matching Evo 2 front seats.
Loving the car. Are you near Surrey?
Ade
Very nice, where did you source the seats if you don’t mind me asking? Really looks great!
@@JRH_89 They came with the car! As you can see, it also has Final Edition wheels and petrol cap, plus some tasty engine and exhaust mods. Runs perfectly.
Wooooowssss 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yep, that is how I feel!
DELTA all day everyday ❤
Ah, yay, another vote for the integrale! It is fairly close.
Ade
Obviously the Integrale wins here, if you drove one and can drive properly you would understand why. Modern cars are so boring, we don't need all that tech!!! I'm not a fan of the Emira, the Exige is way cooler. I'm 45yrs young. Nice vid Ade
Yeah. I would not sell a high spec Exige for an Emira.
Both amazing though and you'd be surprised how good the Emira is on track even with the extra weight.
If the Emira ever sells then one day I'd look at 430 Cup.
Lanci Delta Evo2 is my Dream car (Red with Alcantara Cream Recaro seats). But the price now is just too much 80k.
Saying that I tried to buy the Lotus Emira (Green with Black Wheels) with AMG engine to be my company car but Lotus will not sell me a LHD in UK.
The price of the Lotus went up … for the new price the Best Option is to buy a Porsche Cayman 😜
Perfect video for you then! 😄
I utterly love both cars.
I could not buy a Cayman. Great cars but just too common and not sure I have ever liked the looks or that I should have got a 911.
There are 2nd hand Emiras in the 60k mark now! Absolute bargain. Amazing car.
My integrale is getting its service. I'd sell it for £72500 and that is a steal.
Ade
In the end of the day I will go where is my heart … Lancia was part of my youth … on late 80 beginning of nineties every year my dad and he’s friends always took me and my friends to see Rally in Portugal and seeing the Lancia Delta, Mitsubishi EVO, Nissan Sunny GTR, Ford, Subaru passing in front of me make me love those cars … the best thing was that you don’t have to pay nothing all free … those were the days of cars give pleasure driving … Lancia will look perfect on my garage just side by side the F355 👌
@@ricardocosta951 Cool, I remember all of those cars well though never saw them live in rally.
I do like the F355 but my firs Ferrari was the F430 Spider with a manual gearbox. You can see it on my channel.
All amazing. At some point I want to get an F12.
@@RevMonkeyThe F430 spider is beautiful (I also prefer manual). The F12 TDF is the last Ferrari that I like … the last Ferrari model designed by Pininfarina 👌
@@ricardocosta951 We seem to like the same cars!
The TDF is so expensive now. I'd be very happy with an F12 with a novitec exhaust. I like them in Giallo Triplo Strato and any metallic red like Fuoco.
Without doubt the evo
It is super close.. the main advantage the Emira has is that it is modern and some integrale suspension can be old and weak.
@@RevMonkey true but quite a solid support for the model in upgrades but yeah modern should equal reliability and safety and traction advantages but electric controls and water are never best of mates but for sheer seat of ya pants the evo FTW
@@urbanjentry222 My integrale is better welded and has Ohlins so it is actually super close on handling.
I suspect the Emira will beat the integrale comfortably on track but, on the road, it would be a lot closer and a very good driver might make the integral equal which is an incredible feat given the 31 year gap!!!
The Emira could be mistaken for any other sportscar/brand from a distance(the yellow logo isn’t helping either) daddy a Ferrari! No son thats almost a ferrari. But every car enthusiast can distinguish a Delta from very far away (and would make them jizz instantly 😅) that says enough (im from 77)
Yeah, fair comment.
Kids get super excited with the Emira but adults, of a certain age, get excited about the Lancia..
Might go out in it in a bit actually. It needs a nice run.
Poor choices. 570S is the one. Mind blowing
Ah, did you just see my Ayrton video on Insta? 🙂
I have never really liked the look of the 570. The LT cars and the 720 look a lot better. Never impressed with the McLaren sound either. Also, at £80k a Macca might be a nightmare in terms of ownership costs, even with the £4k warranty. Nice cars though, of course. I might look at a 600LT at some point, which is from the same family.
@@RevMonkey looks is personal taste but 80k fpr a caebon-tun supercar nothing comes close.
@@ayrton4ever1 Not true.. The Emira would beat it on any twistier track, sounds better and looks better BUT I do agree its a fab car. Just looking at cars on Autotrader as it happens and there is a 570S for 75k. Another carbon tub option is the Alfa 4C, looking like a good buy at around 40k.
Damn, there is a 12C spider for 69K!! Wow. Brave buy.
GT4…
Ooh.. Couldn't live with looks 😋
Then the hard seats, too firm for the road, common, it's not a 911.
Great car though! I wonder if it can really keep up with these on twisty UK roads..
Only one way to find out!! FIGHT!
I will try and sort something out.
Ade
Nice reviews good cars too
Thanks!