VA Panel vs QD-OLED Panel - Which Technology is Right For You?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:55 - The Models
2:10 - Brightness & Contrast
4:00 - Color Performance
5:20 - Uniformity, Backlight Bleed, Viewing Angles
6:15 - Speed (Response Times, Latency)
8:30 - QD-OLED Downsides (Flicker, Burn-in, Pixel Layout)
11:25 - Price & Final Thoughts
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would be nice to see a mini-led vs oled comparison
I am working 4 days a week in my Homeoffice. So as long as OLED has this burn in problem, it will never be an option. Even if it is solved 98%, it still exists
For me, it's that I'm lookin' for a monitor to hold me over until microLED gets practical. If that were just a few years away, sure, but practical microLED is perpetually 5-10 years away. Need a panel I can trust for 5-10 years, not 3-5.
I'm using a an oled from LG ULTRA Gear 47 inch as home office and it works perfectly fine as long as you keep brightness around 50%
OLED is not made for you lmao.
@@Turqez so this is funny?
@hirschkuh1982 Yeah, bcuz you a cornball thinking you were oleds target audience.
"Me looking at the two monitors thru my IPS screen that max out at 300 nits." ah yes, ah yes, i cannot tell the difference.
great vid, love to see more comparisons!
The burn in is a no for me, pass till they fix it or come up with a new screen that doesn't do it
Thanks so much for your informative reviews! It's getting more and more confusing to know what to actually get with computer stuff and this channel helps alot.💕💕
Excellent comparison on these two units! Well done, Nada! Cheers!
Great Info Thank you Lady .😊👍
Mini LED VA panel monitor would be a closer comparison to oled and should be price between both VA and oled
back to IPS. Ghosting is a no-no when gaming , then text will annoy me to death . They would both annoy me so much i would be spending time to mitigate the issues instead of working/playing.
I like the CONCEPT of this video -- and you're the first I've seen take it on -- but it just seems like THIS VA panel wasn't really designed for HDR content. HDR is the WHOLE point of QD-OLED, so a competing VA panel should at least be ATTEMPTING to deliver a good HDR experience.
Thank you. 👍🏻
Had no idea you cover monitors in general! Very very nice.
Hello, an excellent review as usual. Very interesting information that I will use when buying my next 1440P monitor for MSFS2020 use. Thanks.
Great explanations
I bought a VA panel because I don't game much anymore. Also, Samsung really tuned the Odyssey Neo G8 in such a way that really minimizes the motion blur problem. I get good HDR without risk of burn-in and without motion blur. The only real downside is that bad wobbly stand.
Thank you for this video. I love this CZcams channel.
Hi Nada. So nice to see you again. Would there be any difference on a 40+ inch monitor?
Tried an Alienware aw3243awf this weekend and I returned it, the text look a little fuzzy. Huge disappointment but there is no way I could have work all day on this.
Certainly interesting. I've owned three VA panels - XG49VQ, XG27WQ & up until recently; the XG32VC. The best of the bunch was the XG27WQ - excellent image quality and a fast, responsive panel with little ghosting. The XG49VQ exhibited a little, yet the XG32VC was terrible for it.
You really need to look a the panel on these units. I've just upgraded to the OLED PG27AQDM and it is absolutely incredible. Of all the monitors I've ever owned this blows them all away, zero contest.
I appreciate that they didn't use you as a pretty face for the channel - its obvious you REALLY know your stuff and thats awesome. Love the content, I see a lot more viewers in your future if you keep up with these quality reviews!
I'm not sure why the comparison is done between an old school VA panel vs a QD-OLED panel. The only worthwhile comparison here would be a miniLED VA panel vs a QD-OLED panel, then we can start talking about which is better and in what scenario.
The comparison is between two of the same brand monitors. Also, modern VA monitors are really good in image quality and image response compared to old ones. Also, OLED monitors are really expensive compared to TV OLED monitors.
@@patriciomateluna2223 That gap in price has closed considerably this year, with last year's crop of OLED monitors now available for around $700 USD. Asus even has a new 27-inch 1440p OLED with a glossy coating for the same price last I checked.
I agree but finding a good quality miniled monitor is not that easy. The best ones are surprisingly expensive.
Great video, but I am gonna get myself the new W-OLED glossy screen (27 inch). Seemed very nice. I had a QD-OLED screen but it is more grayish than deep black imo.
A better comparison would be the mini-LED I think. I've seen at least one ASUS large-sized monitor with mini-LED that just looks great in HDR compared to a QD-OLED.
Any noticeable ABL from either panels?
Would be curious how a va panel with full array local dimming would fair. I'm using an ROG PG35v (VA with full array local dimming), and the 1000 nitt peak, with 500nit sustained is very good next to a window.
Why compare a non-HDR VA Panel to the OLED?
Just an msi showcase
Why not?
@@hirschkuh1982cause it's stupid.
You want a FALD VA to achieve the best of what LCD can offer compared to an OLED in terms of contracts.
A edge light VA vs an OLED Is like comparing a fiat 500 Vs a BMW M series; of course the Oled would be better,Lol.
admittedly VA ultrawide VA with full array dimming seem very rare. I'm using a ROG PG35v, but struggle to find anything else
@@legendp2011 neo series from Samsung?
Thank you for comparison! But I will never buy a product that will 100% be damaged by it's normal use in such short time period. Although that's a nice techlonogy, I will be waiting for MicroLED monitors and TVs.
By the way, OLED's anti burn-in modes are not restoring anything, they basically try to bring normal pixels to the level of burnt ones. Basically, mode to degrade quality :D At least now warranty partly covers burn-in problem, but personally I still don't care :)
Neither, waiting for microled
hey techtesters, will you be testing the samsung g80sd?
I don't think this comparison makes any sense, is that VA monitor miniled? I have the G7 and after trying one of the first oleds I stayed with the VA miniled panel, I haven't tried the 3rd gen oleds though.
Yas qdoled is way better but at a significant additional cost, sometimes almost double of good. Only when the qd_oled price drops to va level most of us will consider it. Always good to see this type of comparisons where we can see what more money gets us so we can decide if is it worth it for ourselves
OLED is not for me, a monitor should work for at least 5 years without burnin.
Yeah, I'm on my third AW3423DW in 2 years.
I agree but I'm also a very heavy user too with never turning my screens off and I have mostly static content on at least one of my screens most of the time. My last screen had over 25k hours on it within a 5 or 6 year period lol so if I couldn't have an oled last that amount of time with zero risk of burn in then I don't want it tbh.
Those shopping for a monitor need to consider their room too. If you typically have lighting, the poor blacks from an IPS or VA won't be a huge detractor. If you're in a dark room, definitely consider OLED.
The ABL and ASBL that is in every OLED display made today makes this technology a non-starter for me. From a color reproduction perspective, the inability to get true white across the entire screen makes editing way too difficult and you can't trust what you are seeing as color accurate
I'm in the market for another 34" curved 21:9 monitor, but the market for VA panels here is so much worse than 16:9 (I'm not willing to deal with OLED burn in with static images). In 27" there are a ton of mini-LED options with a VA panel, but in 34" the newest one is Viewsonic's XG341C-2K that costs $1500, has been out for going on 2 years and isn't worth the price. Acer is supposed to be putting out a Predator X34 MiniLED at some point this year (originally was supposed to be Q2 2024) for $900 and this is one which would be a great comparison for these OLED displays.
Curved 240 Hz 38" 21:9 3840x1600 in VA form with Samsung reaction time would be endgame for me, I have the 32" G7 but want the wide screen experience without going pricey and demanding of the ultrawide G9, this would be great middle ground, pixel density not as high as a 4K 32" monitor but much better than my G7, currently there are only IPS and 170 Hz refresh rate with these specs unfortunately.
is that olso from sony. great new video
Chromatic Aberration on my text? No thanks 🙃
I'll take a IPS over VA for gaming any day.
Met andere woorden, doe je 60% van de tijd dat de monitor aanstaat spelletjes dan is QD-OLED te overwegen en anders bij office applicaties, programmeren, etc. is de VA-monitor een beter optie. QD-OLED voor gaming en video, VA-Monitor voor al het andere.
As I own a VA display which I picked up cheap a few years back, I suspect a difference will be that Techtesters likes the QD OLED 😂😂😂
I want a 65" 8K 120hz Mini-LED completely bezel free Monitor with amazing Quantum Dot color and HDR peak brightness up to 4000 nits that can also do 4K 240hz for gaming. Oh wait, that exists, it's a Samsung QN900D.
I got myself a Best Buy 5 year warranty with my OLED but I’m still too scared to use it lol
Try the VA Panels from Samsung :)
I have made a 2560x1440 pic folder with pics I have downloaded and numerous screenshots from within games like FarCryNew Dawn. Then its personalization/themes/background slideshow and have them rotate every minute. Dont have desktop Icons ( have an Elgato StreamDeck) and hide the taskbar. Thats my burnin protection on my lg oled.
doesn't everyone hide the taskbar-
not sure I could live without my Icons-
I'll pass on OLED until they solve that
@@kennethpereyda5707 I find the elgato stream deck to be just like a touch screen that can launch my apps . The colours are something else and one of my better buys
Motion blur is the devil 😈
I wish micro-LED was widespread already. I know the tech is very limited and very fresh, but I think we desperately need something that can finally leapfrog this neck-and-neck race between monitor types. VA and IPS struggle with blacks. OLEDs struggle with brightness, burn-in, and perpetually high production cost. We're close though. I can almost taste it through my cheap VA monitor that I haven't updated in a decade because I'm afraid of buying something that's dead-end tech.
Samsung Odyssey VA >> Every other VA. These do not smear like the others.
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I want a 4k 27” oled with at least 240fps.
We need more vids from Techtesters... Nada... Where are u...??? We missed ur honest hardware reviews...
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Cutie Oled ftw
Thank you so much for posting this excellent video. Your presentation is excellent. I very much appreciate your presentation of the facts about these panels including the test results. The videography is outstanding. I listen carefully to your comments. I would certainly like to see tests of additional panels, with both gaming and text-based work in mind. I'm interested in getting a display that is around 34 inches and can handle text really well. I do quite a lot of writing and reading. Most of my work is text based. I'm planning to retire in about 3 years, and it might be good for me to upgrade to a better display until that day. Thank you so much for this excellent discussion.
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If I wanna get a good 4k qd oled monitor, what manufacturer or so should I look for? or what should I look for in the specs?
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I think you should compare high-end VA Panels like the Samsung Odyssey lineup, you're comparing a cheap VA panel, rather than an expensive one, to an expensive OLED panel, which is obviously an unfair test.
OLEDs still cannot compete in brightness. I think it is wrong to conclude based on middling performance from a VA panel, that the technology is inferior.
If you have a preference for OLED, that's fine. But neither is really inferior to the other.
I have both and prefer VA mini-LED, a good VA miniLED monitor is a better monitor for gaming and watching movies imo.
For some reason, VA displays appear better in videos than they actually are. I’ll never make the mistake of buying a VA again.
Fr’s, they’re horrible in real life.
Really they seem great to me
Cheap VAs are the worst, but higher end ones like my Samsung Odyssey G7 ain't bad at all.
Edit 2: G7, not G6 or G5
Agreed. Picked up a "high end" Samsung VA panel for a side display and it was hot garbage. I will never buy another, too many problems with VA.
I prefer mini led but va isent bad ether of you chose something like neo8/7 or the BenQ series pretty good monitors I just don't think qd is worth it if you want more than 1
oled is not worth it if u only use sdr.
Every OLED will eventually have Burn-In & that's inevitable...
Using an OLED panel for a computer monitor with current problems is a clear invitation for lots & lots of problems!
Additional to the obvious Burn-In & Text clarity problems, the "fan noise" is another thing to consider while using... No, I'll pass OLEDs for now !
They don’t all have fans.
Even IPS displays can get permanent image retention. For example, many people, including myself, have seen the task bar get "burned" into their displays over time.
If you treat the OLED right, the chance of burn in is incredibly low and you will likely replace the monitor with an upgrade before it happens.
Most people with burn in issues either ignore the preventive measures built into the display, or constantly run them with peak brightness on and no sleep with inactivity.
Text is not an issue with OLED, its not the best but not horribly bad either. Newer OLED panels have largely improved on that front. As for fans, only the Alienware models have them if I am not mistaken. The MSI model she is showing off in this video uses passive cooling, and no fans.
@@deuswulf6193 funny how you have to babysit your expensive OLED monitor just because the tech isn't quite up there yet. Burn in happening is like having range anxiety in an EV. It might not happen but you'll keep on being worried that it might happen at one point (or two or three lmao).
@@elevate38 I don't have to baby sit it. Weak attempt at hyperbole btw.
Its a matter of setting it up to work optimally in your favor, nothing more, nothing less. HDR kicks in for gaming, desktop mode for non gaming, inactivity puts it to sleep and during that sleep it automatically does a pixel refresh.
Non OLED monitors are set up to do the same thing (with the exception of pixel refresh).
If all that is too hard for you, then its an end user problem, and not a product problem.
Expensive OLED? You can get a QD OLED ultrawide for the same price as some the non OLED monitors. $700-1000 is not expensive to me for a top of the line monitor. You are clearly ignorant about the current market. What it suggests to me is that you only buy the cheap stuff, and maybe that is what this is really about, envy.
Do you hate on nvidia as well, because their top of the line cards start at the $1k mark? Are you just cheap and won't admit it?
@@deuswulf6193 I never turn my pc off, still no burn in on IPS. Oleds burn in pretty easily.
VA Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est ?
Va-va-va, va va-va-va, va Far better,
Run run run awaaaaaaay
WOLED MLA
To much money, I'll stay with LED.
Some people need to be careful with the motion handling aspect. If your GPU/CPU are not driving fast enough frame rates, the OLED panels may expose a "sample and hold" motion blur effect that can be distracting. The pixel response time is so fast that the "motion blur" effect of IPS/VA panel isn't there and can expose this sensitivity to content that would otherwise look OK on the IPS/VA at around 60fps.
On my lg c2 there is a cinema toggle that accounts for that. There is also an option to turn on motion blur in game, so this problem seems to be solved already. But yeah, that's an important knowledge.
@@maxburmab7962 Cinema is still motion smoothing, which I do use to watch movies on my LG CX, but this review was for PC monitors and you're not going to get motion smoothing on them. Motion blur in games does help a little but most people don't seem to like that effect either.
@@pogtuber5146 but it's not gonna be worse than playing on an LCD monitor, right? And regardless of monitor, low framerate would require motion blur anyway in my opinion.
@@maxburmab7962 I have a VA monitor as well as my LG OLED and yes, a 60fps game is going to look worse on the TV than the monitor. It's not much worse, but I know myself and many others that have posted who seem to get bothered by it more on the OLED than on an LCD panel.
The answer is always oled.....waaaay better
This comparison is kinda pointless. You should have compared an OLED with a miniled VA panel, that would be a more fair comparison which would put them in a similar price bracket, too.
Va monitor for browsing and an oled TV for content and gaming is peak.
Can't expect one single screen to do everything well. QD OLED for a browsing monitor in particular is crazy, it WILL burn-in.
"Can't expect one single screen to do everything wel" -- you can, usually IPS panels with a high refresh
@@BOZ_11 ips glow has entered the chat
@@tthbro buy a good panel then
@@BOZ_11 IPS panels have mediocre contrast. Blacks look grey causing the overall picture to look cloudy and hazy compared to VA and OLED panels.
Burn in is a myth 🫥
QD-OLED is my next monitor.
Good luck to your eyes for the flickering and reading text! And hope you don't get those burn ins which happen quite often
@@elevate38 talking as if we’re still on 1st gen oled lmao just say ur clueless next time
@@elevate38 I have been using a QD OLED for quite some time now. No burn ins, even for productivity use, no flickering, and the text is fine. Starting to believe most of you naysayers are just repeating what you see other naysayers say, without actually having used these displays.
It's okay to get hurt for something that's true. Thus your offended reactions. I totally understand.
@@elevate38 Your comment makes no sense. Was that an attempt at trying to sound clever? If so, it failed.
The whole burn-in thing for a computer monitor stops me from considering any OLED.
There is a warranty if you are worried. I have had multiple oled monitors and tvs and nothing can compare to them. They are a 1000 times better. Burn-in was a thing that happened to these but it’s not a thing anymore. I have 12k hours on my lg c2 and 15 k on my Sony. ZERO burn in 😂
@@phillip008 When the companies don't need to warranty against it anymore, then I'll consider it.
@@phillip008 Those are TVs. Now try it with monitors, they cheaply made.
The burn in is grossly over stated. Many people have been using them for years, even for productivity, and have had zero burn in. At this point its just mostly fear mongering. Unless you actively go out to try and get burn in, smart usage will likely not cause it.
Btw even an IPS monitor can get image retention if you leave something up long enough, for example a task bar.
Good point on not having the need to warranty burn ins. What's the use of a 3-year warranty if 1 day right after the 3rd year you get burn in?
Until the time that OLED tech is cheaper and then confident and mature enough to not have those new-tech kinks, even making you do rituals (pixel refresh lmao), better save yourself from some anxiety, stress, and money and just stick to ole reliables IPS or VA.
Oled are like a Beautiful Girlfriend , IPS are like a good wife ... Yeahp !!!
Get both!
@@threadripper979 I did that I have my Ultrawide IPS and Ultrawide Qoled
For the sake of saving money..va 😅
Oled pixels die after 2 or 3 years. VA is superior as a monitor technology.
Hard to make arguments for VA these days. Well, other than price of course.
You’re looking at a 2x minimum (outside Murica) spending for the same stats. Unless OLEDs get into the 400- 500s $, it’s still won’t be mainstream.
The award for the ugliest monitor goes to... MSI
I just an IPS monitor and called it a day.
Have you eve tried 4K OLED? Unless, you have serious money problems, it’s a no brainer.
@khlaps I don't want burn in thank you very much.
You just an IPS, huh.
Crt best
Oled good
Ips nice
Va not good
I had a va that was pretty decent but then i got my oled and never went back
IPS monitors r best for PCs and Qd /oled r best for TV movies and shows .period
Yeah no. Games absolutely look best on OLED
I always go for VA panels. Best of both worlds.
VAs have notorious smearing, they can't transition fast enough and you are suck to smaller displays as if you get too large (and not curved enough) you get discoloration.
Its far from being the best of both worlds.
No, high end VA panels don't smear anymore, used to be the case years ago but not anymore
@@wx2999 they absolutely do. I bought one of the newer Samsung Odyssey VA monitors, it's still a smear fest. if you look at ratings, all the new VA monitors have smearing as one of the cons in their reviews.
Haha 😂
I had a VA once, never again. IPS 8-bit for life; or until OLED has its issues ironed out
Yeah, IPS is a safe bet if you don't have the money for a higher end VA
Been on OLED for some time now, can't imagine going backwards to anything else
For me VA is a no go with its blurring and black smearing on screen. I’d much rather get either an IPS ….preferably one with HDR and FALD or an OLED. 🥰💪😇👍🥳🥳. I’d rather save my money longer for the better alternative than waste it on a VA based panel 🙂↕🤦🤦♂🤦♀🙈
Black smearing is no longer an issue with VA Panels, it's been solved for a while now; IPS has terrible contrast and is one of the worst options imo
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Mam you need CZcams thumbnails?
I don't know about you guys but I find IPS completely sufficient.
I had the same thoughts 5 years ago, until I placed a VA and now an OLED panel beside my IPS screen which looks CLOUDY and HAZY in comparison. The differences better contrast on the VA and OLED panels makes to an image is incredibly significant. Colors pop, image look 3 dimensional, I could now ACTUALLY see and enjoy movies with a lot of night scenes e.g batman vs superman / godzilla, whereas on my IPS night scenes looks hazy, just PLAIN hot trash.
@@thetinkerer5322 Exactly this. It has been years since my last IPS panel, have never looked back. Once you try a panel which has better contrast ratio, there's no way IPS will look "sufficient" anymore.
"sufficient" is certainly a word to describe technology that does its job perfectly fine. It's easy to say anything is "sufficient" when you've never actually experienced the new tech.
@@pogtuber5146 we ain't rich all the time mate.
Dont buy VA 👎👎👎
I can answer this for everyone.. Qd oled there's absolutely no comparison va is known for horrible artifacting