Watch this before Powering your Diesel Heater with a Battery!
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2023
- In this video, I demonstrate how I power my diesel heater with a deep cycle battery which is kept topped off by a trickle charger.
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Please note: What is presented here covers what I did to purchase, install and use this item. You should check your own local codes and consult a professional prior to using any item demonstrated in this video.
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Thanks for information. Just what I needed to know.
Informative video sir! Exactly the answers I was searching for, subscribed.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for the sub.
I am using the same heater and it works very well, so far. I have it wired to a 240AH lithium iron-phosphate battery (2nd life unit). That battery is charged by solar and will never run out, even if I connected a 50-gallon diesel tank to the heater. The LFP battery I'm using has 2 thermostatically-controlled heating pads under it, so no worries about the cells ever getting below freezing. One of the great things about LFP batteries is they have a flat discharge curve, so voltage sag isn't a concern.
@jasonbroom7147 - great info! Thanks for that! I haven't hooked up my solar yet but plan to do so soon. Having that 50 gallon tank must be great!
You know your stuff)) Thanks.
Thank you!
I use a old type charger, a 4amp one, it has a needle on it, best charger going, if you can get your hands on one,
👍👍👍.Thanks
I use my 20/60 volt DeWalt tool battery to power mine using a step down converter for a golf cart, works great and they don't weigh much. One 5ah battery will last 4-5 hours depending on the settings. For camping its great not having to haul around a 60 pound battery. A small folding solar panel to charge batteries through the day and your golden for a camping adventure.
Sounds like a great setup!
I’m wanting to do this. How are you wiring it from to battery to the actual heater. Are you able to explain a bit
@@ryderhunter7547 Use the battery adapter I sent the link for, it has four posts for the battery connection and bridges the battery for the 60 volts, hook up an inline fuse and run the power and ground wires to the stepdown converter that I sent the link to. Then run your power and ground wires from the output of the converter to the wire studs on your heater... If you want it to operate and shutdown before the battery is dead, you need a low voltage disconnect as well... I will send a link to it as well
@@ryderhunter7547 and I used a 48 volt relay to run the low power shut off from the battery connector side, otherwise you won't be able to set the disconnect voltage because out of the converter it's a constant 12.4 volts, and you want to set the voltage higher... Just test a battery that shuts itself off and see what the voltage is and set the disconnect a few volts above that, to ensure complete shutdown and cool off...
@@MrJackson66can you send me a link as well?
I use my ecoflow river max,works great
Excellent to know.
1 100 watt solar panel works perfect. Got mine at harbor freight. You can get a cheap battery monitor about 8 bucks that will keep you informed
Thanks, good to know! I've got a harbor freight 100w kit... I just need the time to hook it up and run it into the gerge.
Good video, I found this out myself by running a trickle charger that was too weak to my battery. Just using a lawn mower battery so it's small, it cannot supply enough amperage to start the glow plug even if the battery falls to 12.4 volts, which it did because my trickle charger was only 0.5A/H. Looks like I need a 1AH or higher, which I assumed so I got a 2AH charger/trickler, a cheap low tech one so it continued to float instead of shutting off like the fancy modern ones like to do (that also cost 3x as much). Yeah I realize I shouldn't be using a 30 dollar lawn mower battery, but as long as it can start the machine and let the machine power off in loss of power safely I'm ok with using it for this purpose, ain't mowing anyway. Cheers.
@escapetherace1943 - thanks, appreciate hearing about your setup.
@@TheGergeDIY 👍I went with one of the cheapest 6 amp chargers, realized I wanted it to keep up better with the draw, my battery is too damned small
@@escapetherace1943 - the battery I'm using came from walmart - going from memory I think it was a model 29? I believe it was $100. It's worked well and the 1A trickle charger seems to keep things going. It's getting colder here and I'll be doing more experiments with the battery. I'll also try charging it with a 100w of solar panels during the and running the heater at night. We'll see how it goes!
@@TheGergeDIY I was out in my shop today and had the thing running close to 10 hours. Still losing overall voltage but just barely, I happened to have two 0.5 amp chargers so I just connected them both to my battery. They didn't overcharge it they brought it to 13.4 volts together so what works works for the moment anyway....
Ran my heater last winter with two old starting batteries and a 6 amp battery charger. The batteries are acting as capacitors . This year I changed to an inexpensive 30 amp power supply I still have the batteries as a cushion for start up draw .
Sounds like a plan. If you can, let me know how it works out.
Thanks for this. For tent camping (with access to a vehicle), do you have a recommendation on how you’d top up/recharge the battery using a vehicle?
Hmmmm, that's a great question. I wonder if there is some sort of cigarette plug to trickle charger type device available?
Thank you for the video, If i had your diesel heater and just a regular battery out of a car,
would it have enough power to start the heater and run it on high. What would be your guess as for how long it would run ?
Sorry, but I really don't know. I do know car batteries are not intended for long term power draw, they're made to dump a lot of current quickly to turn over the starter. I marine/rv/deep cycle battery is a better choice for running an appliance like this heater.
Me over here using my , ecoflow river max for mine
Great vid though my electrician chops are lacking. Looking to get one of these similar to yours for ice fishing. Been a warm year so not looking to bring truck or quad into ice so looking to bring lightest battery I can haul onto ice with me on a sled. Have any recommendations for type of battery that might do the trick to get me a few hours until I get it home to charge? One of these deep cycle jobs?
I don’t have one, but I think one of those lifepo batteries would be lighter than a leaded deep cycle. The thing is though, lithium loses efficiency below 32f and also can’t charge. Leaded does too, but not as bad. I have videos on the channel about the bluetti eb3a - that might work for you? They are lithium and also suffer in the cold; something to consider.
@@TheGergeDIY great insight thank you
Good job! Lead acid battery? How many amps? I've got a desiel heater by vevor and am looking forward to hooking it up. Just want to do it once, and do it right the first time. Thanks!
That battery is from Walmart. Lead acid, sealed deep cycle. I forgot the exact model number, 29DC comes to mind? I believe it's 845CCA.
Id suggest changing your connectors to a more solid connection, clips could easily be bumped off
Thanks, that’s a really good suggestion - I’ll definitely do that before using the battery again.
From the way that battery voltage sagged under the load presented, I'd say it was on the way out, going west, or has a poor connection. A battery that size should hold up a lot better than that! It is probably worth giving it a really good charge up to 100%, then try it.
Yeah, you’re probably right, it shouldn’t sag that much. I haven’t used that battery much since the video. I’ll put a tester on it and check it.
i ran my diesel heater, solely on battery.. Just to test run time....
On a 60Ah car battery, Fully charged before hand.... Running the heater constantly at 2.2hz heat setting (Low to keep temperature constantly and comortable in my workshop),
I ran out of fuel, In my 10L wall mounted tank, Before the battery even went dead..... I emptied the tank and performed the cool-down cycle..... and the battery still wasn't depleted....
Just to give you some idea.....
I do what you have done though.. I keep my battery on a 4A trickle charger constantly... So if i experience a power loss.. the heater can continue running on the battery alone.. and loads of time for me to let it cool down, if needed....
Its simple to work out..... Say the heater draws 1A (just theoretical).... and you have a 100ah battery.... It should in theory, Run for 100 hours on battery... Obviously give or take... As amps fluctuate slightly..... Battery health etc etc... But a ballpark figure...
Good info, thanks. I find that mine fluctuates around 200ma while running at 4hz. I’ve also found that batteries don’t drain in an exactly linear fashion, so it’s probably best to monitor your particular setup to see what the battery is going to do under load. And even with that, be conservative and give yourself a good buffer to allow for a proper cooldown cycle.
Appreciate you sharing your experience here!
Maybe you can help me out, I've got a brand new 8kw vevor heater that lasts maybe a couple hours off a car battery. Battery is brand new, it'll first throw an E09 code for faulty sensor, shut down, but if I try starting it back up, it throws an E02 (too high voltage code) despite the battery being 12v. I have to top the battery up with a trickle charge before it'll start up again. Having a charger connected full time just throws the same E02 code until its removed. I've gotta replace the sensor first and see of that helps, but for an out of package product this thing has been a headache.
@@Aesthention I've never run off a car battery, just a deep cycle. The reason I've never tried a car battery is I've always been under the perception that they're made for quick discharge with a lot of current, then rapidly recharged - but not for the long haul (so to speak). If you have AC available, I've had great results with an AC power supply: czcams.com/video/e_2-a25ccbM/video.html - if you don't have AC available, I'd say a power bank or a deep cycle RV/Marine style battery is your best bet. I hope that gets you closer to success!
How can i run diesel heater of a mains power supply unit thst reduces to 12v and a battery as a backup how can i wire this idea safely plz reply
You could use a power bank like the bluetti eb3a and an ac-> dc converter. The power bank can be plugged in and it will operate like an UPS. czcams.com/video/7DKXOwaBeBg/video.htmlsi=NViCWPUdDfriglZU
Maybe put the 2 meters side by side so that the readings are visible simultaneously.
Yeah, in retrospect that would have been better! I'll probably refilm this video at some point this winter and will do that.
i tested my batteries a few years ago, with no incoming power my diesel heater runs about 5 weeks give or take.
That’s great! Be curious to know more about your setup. What capacity battery and how long each day were you running the heater?
easy peasy math. your battery I think said 100 amp hours. So if the heater draws say about 2 amps at 2.1 hrz, thats 50 hours till the battery is exhausted. But as you know that depends on heat, wear on the battery, etc. Thanks for the video! I plan on doing something very similar with my heater as we do have power outages.
Thanks, @heidiszl - pretty straightforward. There are some variables to consider; the heater doesn’t draw a steady current when it’s running, and I don’t feel the bluetti drains the battery at a linear rate. This fall/winter I’ll run a complete session with the bluetti to get a better understanding of the power consumption. Also, don’t forget to leave enough power to shutdown the heater properly!
what is bleutti?
@@TheGergeDIY
@@heidislz - it's the brand of power bank
What do you mean linear rate? Is it possible you are expecting the voltage to decrease linearly as the capacity is drained steadily? Bluetti's use lfp batteries that will remain between 13.4-12.9v until about 20% soc, where it drops quickly.
@@marionsutcliffe1119 - I'm referring to the percent reported as the power is consumed. For example, if there is a steady draw of 1a, the reported percentage will not decrease in a linear manner, it may go faster or slower depending on the state of the battery. I'm not stating this is fact, I'm just thinking this out loud. One thing I learned when I did a test recharging Makita power tool batteries was that at the end (1%), the Bluetti stayed on quite a long time. I'll do more testing this winter. Thanks for your comment.
Why does my 20amp fuse blow everytime when connecting the heater wires to a battery?
No idea. Sounds like you should get someone to look at it in person.
Sounds like a short circuit, look inside perhaps there is a wire touching metal.....??!! Erik
Without paying detailed attention my 90ah bat with 2 starts fell to 12 v burning almost 2 gallon in approximately 20-24 hours.
That’s a lot of fuel. Where you running on 5hz?
@@TheGergeDIY I don’t know about hz’s it was on full burn.Its 6.5-8kw unit.
@@2hotscottproYeah, full burn will use up some fuel!
With 400 AH of lithium IP it will run a lot longer than I can pack enough diesel for and also a lot longer than I want to be out camping in the winter with the van.
That's awesome! I considered getting a lithium battery, and probably will at some point. The cost is pretty high on those, and I worry about using them in the severe cold as well. How has your experience been with that?
@@TheGergeDIY Doesn't get that cold up there. I charge them while the suns out and its 50, then it'll be 25 at night. It could be done in colder weather though. I'm bringing in 8 amps in the sun, and using about 5 or 6 to run the fridge during the day and to keep the interior (and the batteries) warm. Add in the coffee maker and occasional microwave and I almost break even. Wake up and turn the heater and the coffee on, and by the time it's ready, it's warm inside.
Why not just ditch the battery and use a ac to dc power supply?
Fair question- you can do that. I have another video with an ac->dc power supply hookup on the channel. A lot of folks have batteries though, and there are times you won’t have ac.
What was that knocking noise? It would get on my wick that tapping, like Chinese water torture :(
@davewallace5008 - it's the fuel pump, they all do it. Mine seems to get quieter as it runs, but it's always there. There are quite a few videos about ways to mitigate it.
@@TheGergeDIY Thanks, I was contemplating as to whether to purchase one or not, someone I talked to runs red diesel through his after first washing through cat litter of all things ;)
@@davewallace5008 I run red (off road) through mine, doesn't make a difference. No cat litter filter, lol. There's not much difference in the price of red vs regular (white) diesel here, so I just run whatever costs less at the time. I've also run kero through it, works fine.
Its a person outside knocking to get in out of the cold))))
Is this diesel heater thermostat controlled ?
It isn't. You control it by running it faster or slower. The value is given in Hz, and it's how many times the fuel pump, pumps, per second.