Power Station not running your diesel heater?? Here's a quick fix that WORKS!
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- čas přidán 3. 12. 2023
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Bluetti AC180 Power Station (currently on sale as of 12/4/23)
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HCALORY 5 - 8KW DIESEL HEATER
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This man is out here doing reviews in his pajamas. That’s dedication folks. LOL. Sounds like the LED power supply is going to work out for you
Lololol. Dedication Steve, dedication😂
Great info! I melted my cord trying to run a diesel heater off the 12v cigarette port. luckily no damage to my bluetti. This is what I needed. Thank you! N. FL
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After watching your video, I bought the same converter you have. Works great. Thank you. And if I loose power, I have a Jackery 1500 for power. Very pleased!
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Good job. Hopefully the new setup will work out for you in the long run! Thanks for the update!
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Thank you! This worked on my vevor with my jackery 300 plus
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The cigarette lighter plug is rated at 10 amps plenty for start up. I
My diesel heater starts every time. I purchased from Amazon a 15 amp plug and I have the same Bluetti has you Ac 180. Most of the glo plugs take about 9 amps on start up. My start up is 120 watts
watts. Starts right up. Make sure your plug wire is adequate Guage. To small will cause problems After start up it drops down to 35 watts on high setting. Lowest setting 7 watts. You could also have problems with the diesel heater itself but the cigarette lighter plug will handle it and it does have a built in circuit breaker on the side.
Just the info I needed! Thanks
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Some of the newer portable power stations have a 20-amp Anderson DC output that is perfect for running one of these diesel heaters. As you saw, they draw 15 amps or more, while heating up the glow plug. We use one to keep my wife's she-shed toasty while she makes amazing stained glass art. :)
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the 250 watt power supply should handle 20 amps, the heater will draw close to 11 amps until the glow plug does it's thing. people need to be concerned with amps, not watts
Which one? I can’t seem to find one.
Hey Brian, my AC 180 wouldn’t run my 5watt heater as well. Ordered the driver I received today and works perfectly!! Thank you sir!
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I purchased a AC to DC converter 15A 110-220v car cigarette lighter socket power adapter. I use it to run my Webastco 2000 diesel heater . Works great
That would be a good option too
I was wondering if that would work. Always seemed like the most straightforward solution but I've seen people get creative like this video and I just figured I'm dumb and the AC to DC converter wouldn't work. Glad to know it does.
Like this info!! On another note… I was looking through facebook marketplace today. Your little trailer you sold is back on the market minus the tent. I showed a friend the pictures and your video also. We could not believe it was being resold so quick!!it is in south Houston
lol, yeah, the buyer told me he wasn’t going to use the trailer and would sell it when he got home (Houston).
Glad I found this video. I have the same heater but an Ecoflow River Pro battery and will not start the heater. So I'm going to have to sell the Hcalory because it pulls an insane amount of watts up front and find something else that uses less power. I really want to utilize the efficiency of the 12 volt. I only get one night with the AC to DC converter.
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This is going to blow your mind but -- find yourself an old laptop adapter for like $4, the kind with the large brick in the center. Works like a charm. That's what I've been using to run my heater for about 3yrs now. Just make sure the input is 100~240V and the output is 12v 15A
I’ve got to have one of those stashed away in my electronics junk drawer!😂
Same problem here. What’s strange is my eb3a will run my hcalory diesel heater but my larger Bluetti will not run it the off cigarette style plug in. Thx for this knowledge. I was going to send my eb70s back because off this problem.
As others have stated, I just use an old laptop adapter, 12V 15A output runs mine just fine. Same thing can be purchased on Amazon with the cigarette adapter plug already on it for like $25...but that was a new discovery for me too. Such a good idea.
The problem is the 12v cig plugs in these power stations tend to be limited to 10a, not 15.
I ran into the same issue with my eco flow delta with the same heater. Thanks for the video! I just purchased that converter that you mentioned and hopefully it will work like yours.
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New converter work for you?
Had the same issue with my bluetti eb70s. So I ordered a 600w 12v power supply. The power supply itself through ac loss is about 100w. Running its like 135w. I have the same heater btw. I might need to look at your power solution hack. ❤
Heyy Brian, hope everything works out well, stay safe
Thanks Sonia👍🏻
The 12v outlet is the issue at 10amps max. In trucking we needed to go to the battery 🔋 directly.
Yeah. I do have a few larger generators that have a 20amp output, but I don’t want to have to lug around one of those big power stations.
@@BrianWatersOutdoors I was just watching Minute Man Prep and he’s got a Oupes Mega 2 review going on and it has a 12v 30 amp Anderson connector.
Good idea. I was wondering how you where going to set up to solar charge, both the battery bank and the stand alone 12v battery. Great Video as always!
I’ll have a 200 watt solar panel on my rooftop tent I will use. In all reality though, I’ll just keep the batteries topped off when I get home.
Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. Now I know I’m gonna have to get an AC to DC converter regardless. It’s impossible to find a DC output that’s over 15 A.
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I power my 8kw diesel heater with the cigarette lighter plug no my Jackery 500 with no issues.
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I had the same problem
The Hcalory SS2 model which is only about $30 more than the HC-A01 comes with both AC and DC power adapters. It also has a bigger/internal fuel tank as well, its hard to find available online though.
I’m waiting for that model too, it looks nice. But they are waiting to get it back in stock and I’ll probably switch over to that
I have the SS2 as well. It heats great. Only thing I don’t like is that if you accidentally spill fuel on the outside of the tank, you will smell it when it heats up as the intake for the air is inside the box. I’m trying to figure a way to seal the intake to the box to keep the smell out… otherwise it is great.
The variation in the wattage is probably in the inverter. The glow plug has a fixed minimum resistance which it should draw about 10amps at 12 Volts (120W) which increases, thus reducing the current, as the glow plug heats up. There's no way the current draw / wattage should vary like that in the glow plug. If you hang an ammeter in series with the power lead into the heater, that will tell you the current draw then multiply that by the voltage to get the watts.
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This is an interesting experiment Brian. It may be educational to see what happens when the ambient temp is much lower. As you know, diesel is harder to vaporize at lower temps, as well as the fact the battery powersource becomes less efficient the colder it gets. The result might be the current draw being greater for a longer period ?
All very true George. I don’t typically experience the super cold temps though here in the south that you’d see up north, but cold temps and batteries don’t really play well together
Same use 2000 w invertor , as start up n once running swith to cig plug . To run a fridfe n heater all nt 15 plus hrs in winter
My unit won’t allow a “hot start” it immediately shuts down once power is removed
I just purchased a power supply off Amazon for $20. 30a 360v. Haven’t hooked it up to my diesel heater yet but hopefully it works! I did notice some people are having luck with Ecoflo but my Bluetti sure ain’t working
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Did it work?
A bit confused. I've watched numerous YT videos of folks using the diesel heaters for camping, and this is a first concerning the additional piece you're showing. Just recently bought a Vevor 8w vertical model diesel heater, but have yet to test it. Won't be using it until late March/early Spring chilly nights next season (2024). My plan is to simultaneously heat a Hiker Trailer and a roof top tent, via a wye connector hooked to hoses. Power source will either be EF Delta 2, or a Jackery 1500. Maybe I need to run a test way before next season. 🤔
All depends on your heater really. I’ve seen some people able to use the 10amp cigarette 12v output on a power station and it starts the heater fine. I’ve also seen (and in my case) my heater pulls way more than 10amps and it trips out the power station. Probably a 2kw or a 5kw heater would maybe be fine, but as tested, this heater got up to around a max of 250 watts being pulled to get the blowing warm.
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The AC200 MAX has a 30A 12V DC plug. You could run a 12V four -circuit fuse block from it and power your heater and lights from it. If you still have your Bluetti AC200 MAX.
I do still have it, it’s just quite a bit bigger/heavier. I like the size of this ac180
@@BrianWatersOutdoors The AC180 is a great power station for its size. Perfect for weekend trips.
Mine did the same thing. After it tripped un plugged the heater plugged it right back in and started right up.
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What is the better brand and medel number of diesel heaters to use camping
The power bank is rated for something like 10 amps but the heater takes a surge 15 amp draw. I wonder if the inverter lowered that amp draw?
I am new to this game, but just wondering if you could hook directly to the car’s battery - run the car while the glow plugs are firing up and then shut the car down and switch to your portable battery for the remainder of your night when the heater is drawing so little. Easier than lugging another battery along and less expensive than sizing up equipment for the initial warm up… thoughts?
Probably not. Those are typically only 10amps or 120 watts. Same as this power station
Curious if youve discovered why your unit pulls so much power. I have the same problem, but I notice it’s not a universal problem with these hcalory ac01 units. Plenty of people seem to be running them on their power supply with only 10a or 8a cigarette ports. Super annoying.
What is the smoke coming from that starts at 4:37?
Question here for anyone. Will a deep cycle marine battery work with this heater??
Have you thought about making a utility trailer tiny house you can pull behind your truck. I've seen videos where they have a bed, sink, stove,
A/C, heater(diesel heater), portable toilet, etc. #brianwatersoutdoors
I did build a 5x10 camper a few years ago (no plumbing though) that I loved. Family just outgrew it but I have a lot of videos on the build on my channel👍🏻
My Ecoflow river pro has been working for us for the last 3 years. Once I recall it shutting down during start up but unplugged and replugged it worked fine. Must’ve been lucky i guess. I also have the same heater as you I think. Hcalory right?
That’s only a 10amp output too, so I don’t know. Maybe it’s a diff model HCALORY?
@@BrianWatersOutdoors wish there was a way to attach a photo of the Heater with the Ecoflow. Oh well. Best of luck. Cant wait for more adventures. Winter is going by fast!
Hi Brian! You mentioned your main channel. Do you have another one?
lol, this is my main channel. I have a 2nd smaller “review” channel I originally thought I’d post this video to. That channel is @geargadgetreviews
Thank you. Can I hook the non AC end directly up to the positive and negative terminals on my deisel heater? Mind doesn't have a plug, just two terminals that you screw down. Will this work?
Yes. That is how most diesel heaters are. Just (2) terminals for connecting the positive and negative battery cables.
I have a question at about 4 minutes and 35 seconds what is that smoke or fog coming out from underneath your Ryobi powered fan?
Yeah, that’s the smoke generated from the diesel heater after it shut down due to the battery tripping off. It was coming out of the air intake which was near that fan. This is why you always let the heater cycle down when you shut it down so it can properly expel all of that smoke and burn it off
Excellent Brian. I have a kind of stupid question so please forgive my ignorance lol. How do you charge those power generators?
You can use the ac grid (wall outlet) solar panels or even a gas generator in a pinch. Can also use your cars 12v output to charge it too. Quite a few different ways to charge these up
@@BrianWatersOutdoors Awesome, I watch a lot of camping videos and they seem very prevalent across the outdoor scene and have wondered how these things work for a very long time. I'm old school and didn't realize how great these new power stations are compared to the old gas powered generators I grew up using. Thanks again.
Hello how about an update on this how it worked for ur next camping trip did the 250watt one get hot after a while im looking at a 300watt one but just want to see how urs was doing befor i buy one
Used it twice and it worked well. 👍🏻
Pajama pants…nice
Dedication
What is that coming out from underneath the Ryobi fan on the floor at 4:33
It’s smoke coming back out the air intake after the heater died. That’s why you always let these heaters cycle off fully when you shut them down so that smoke will burn off during the cool down process.
Brian, I have the same heater and Bluetti. Was the heater throwing an “E-03” error when trying to use the DC plug?
I don’t recall the error code, I just know it wouldn’t get the heater past startup phase
Have you tried the DC Power Lifting mode on the Bluetti?
Power lifting is only for the ac inverter and does not do anything to help the dc output👍🏻
i have a delta 2 max and tried this method idk why it doesn't work? when i plug my 12v into my car it works fine but ive tired a 12v adapter plug to wall does the same thing. I tried this and its doing the same thing when i turn it on it limited at like less than 20watts HELP PLZ. This is my 2nd diesel heater have not got any of them to work with my portable power station
What should my Anderson connectors be rated for?
You can use the 30amp or even the 45amp Andersons
The only issue with the converter is that it drains the power station too fast. I have an ecoflow river 2 pro and it can barely handle one night with this burner. After the ignition the consumption is about 25- 35 watts. With my older 5kw burner the consumption after the ignition was 10watts.
So i think the converter it's not a solution to the problem.
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There is something wrong with your heater, I have the same one, there is no way it should hit that many watts. Your cables are short enough I also thing there might be a soft start but I’d have to recheck my heater
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why buy a 20a led driver if you just can buy a 30a industrial power supply for less then half the price? anyway, some power stations just have something like 25a xt60 plugs what makes life much easier.
Yeah, some stations have the 25-30amp output. This o e does not
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Cheers bud👍🏻