I am replacing the front struts and rear shocks on my non lifted RWD 2007 Sequioa. I will be towing a 4,000 camper with the vehicle. Which shocks should I be looking at between the 4600’s and the 5100’s.
These Bilsteins should easily go 70-80k miles or more however they outlast just about everything else on the market, and even some stock shocks. Many other aftermarket gas charged shocks will likely need changed every 50-65k miles.
@@ShockSurplus Many thanks. But I meant shelf life in years of NOS shocks. Some of these are no longer manufactured and I wonder how long they last if not used. Will the nitrogen leak out after some time?
We do not like to keep any stock for more than a year because the seals start to dry rot and will often leak within the first 10k miles of use. We have definitely also walked out to our warehouse and have found shocks that are older than a year old sitting in a puddle of their own oil. If the shocks are compressed an extended every couple of days that does exponentially extend their shelf life because the seals get oiled and are less likely to dry out, but I doubt anybody is cycling their NOS shock inventory to keep them fresh.
@@ShockSurplus Thank you. That exactly was my concern. So that makes things difficult for me as I love the stock ride feel of my factory B6-bilsteins (comfort series for GMT400 Tahoe, BE5-2412 and BE5-2413), but these are no longer available new. I can only find them NOS at best. So I probably have to find a way to rebuild them. Although I heard they aren't rebuildable.
Bilstein still definitely makes B6 4600s for GMT400 Tahoes, Burbans, pick ups, and even Blazers so you can still get new Bilsteins that will work as good or better than the old stuff you have now.
On the F150, depending on the year, the Fox 2.0 is typically one of the softest riding shocks available that maintains control. There are softer shocks for sure, like the kYB excel-g, but with softness comes loss of handling and a bit more body roll. Bilstein is a sportier ride, not the softest shock on the block. Feel free to reach out to support@shocksurplus.com or 213-433-3616 to dive into more details and options for your vehicle.
Hi. I have a 2107 F150 and it has 88,000 miles. I was looking to replace my original stock rear shocks for a smother ride. My truck is mostly highway driven and on occasion will haul things. What would you recommend? Thank you
Bilstein 4600, Eibach Pro Truck, KYB Gas or KYB Monomax would be our recommendations. Here's a link to our site for your truck www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=2017-f150
@ShockSurplus I still have my bilstein b6 made for 3rd/4th gen rav4, and 2nd/3rd gen Tacoma shocks for my lifted xB. Still haven’t got the change to hooked them up. When that happens, what’s gonna happen to these shocks? Had them for almost a year now. And once in a while I compress them to keep the oil flow. What happens if they been sitting there too long or more than a year? And if I finally get them hooked up to my vehicle, would it remain function as it should?
If shocks sit for too long the seals can start to dry out and will often fail faster however if you are cycling them regularly you have nothing to worry about. As they get cycled regularly the only thing you will have to worry about is oil degradation which will take at least 5 years to become an actual concern
@@ShockSurplus 5 years???? So 1 year is nothing. But it’s like a warning sign of it can start build up some problems. So as long as I keep cycling, meaning compress the 4600’s by hand to keep the oil cycle and lubricate the internal components, than the shocks and struts will be fine?
@ShockSurplus Why not make another video for two different reputable brands of which is the best monotube shock absorbers? Bilstein b6/4600 vs. KYB Gas-A-Just Which one is firmer and softer, and better handling? And why both are still great option, even though one has a better advantage than the other.
Actually we do comparisons like these all the time. In fact we do tons of buyers guide videos for specific applications comparing a number of brands as well.
@ShockSurplus I’m lookin got a bilstein b6/4600 shock absorbers for an extended length of 26”. This is for a unique application for my 2015 lifted Scion xB. 2” in the front and 2.5” lift in the rear. My oem rear shocks are 23.80” I have bilstein b6 from 2nd/3rd gen Tacoma but they are 22.60”. I can put custom shock extenders but I had a second thought, maybe I should of go for longer shocks. To make them work from different vehicles using bilstein 4600 rear shocks. What are ur thoughts about a bilstein b6/4600 rear shocks that’s 0-2” made for 97’-03’ ford f150? It’s got top stud and bottom eyelet with same bolt size as my lifted xB have. My xB rear shocks have 23.80” compared to 97’ ford f150 rear shocks are 24.50” I believe, but it also say 0-2”. Does this mean it will extend up to 26”? Or is it 26.70”? And what happens if I run a shock that’s 3 quarters longer than the exact 26” shock length? I don’t want to come across we’re it makes it a bit harsh because it’s compress for small amount of 3 quarter inches for that. What are ur thoughts on that?
I am not sure I would go through all that much trouble when you could probably just get a set of coilovers and shocks made for the application by somebody like Flatout Suspension flatoutsuspension.net/
@@ShockSurplusour unique application is not common yes. But we have 2K+ members of all gen lifted xB models. We use 3rd/4th gen rav4 lift kit for the front and rear custom spacers for the rear. I have the access to run bilstein b6 shocks and struts. I just want to understand this problem. What happens if I ran a shocks that exceeds my shock length by 3 quarter inch more than the factory length of the shocks? Again. My oem rear shocks are 23.80” The ones I saw is the 97’-03’ Ford F150 Bilstein b6 shocks. And the shock length is 27.70” And it’s for my street driving daily and never go off-road before. Just want to make my lifted xB relief so much better for a lifted application. Handling better, better stopping power, and much much less dip when braking or dip down from the back when hit the gas. What’s are ur thoughts on that? I’m not goin for coilovers to lower my xB. I’m sticking to lifted xB. Because I want to make it more useful as I can for my daily use, and it’s my only vehicle.
Flatout makes their custom shocks and coilovers for lifted applications. Rather than trying to butcher a set of shocks that were not tuned or designed for your application they can build you something that fits. That way you can get something that will bolt right in, without modifications and that is actually tuned for your application. As far as length is concerned you have to make sure that it is not too long to unseat the coil spring or limit upward suspension travel and not so short that the spring blocks out before the shock compresses or the bump stops engage.
@@ShockSurpluswill do. The front suspension between the xB2/2.5 2008-2015 and 3rd/4th hen rav4 2006-2018 shares the same platform and shares the same most of the parts. I just want to match the bilstein b6. From the back to the front. But u said flatout can make custom shocks or coilovers. So can they make a custom made monotube shocks bilstein b6 version? I’d still prefer a beefed up 46mm piston.
@@markevans1641 Glad to hear! How do they handle small bumps and imperfections on the roads? I live in a city so 100% of my driving is done on highways and city streets, and i never haul/tow or go offroad. Would u recommend me to get these? Also is there an improvement with body roll? Thanks in advance.
@@Amokof I don't do any towing either, I do mostly highway driving,the road bumps are smoother, heads up I drove and still do caddy's my entire adult life, and with the hellwig sway bar, my truck rides better then my caddy, and handles like my c6, go for it, but look into sway bars, major difference truck drives like cloud!!! Good luck hope this helps
Just replaced my 03 sequoia with 5100 and dobinson coil up front . The ride is perfect up front . But my new 4600’s in the rear seem too stiff . Not towing just want a highway princess . Would Icons or fox possibly give me a better Cadillac ride over the 4600’s ?
I am replacing the front struts and rear shocks on my non lifted RWD 2007 Sequioa. I will be towing a 4,000 camper with the vehicle. Which shocks should I be looking at between the 4600’s and the 5100’s.
4600!
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b6-4600-monotube-gas-oem-shocks-set-for-2001-2007-toyota-sequoia-4wd-rwd
How long would you estimate the shelf life is of these gas charged shocks? I have some NOS on mind, that I am thinking to buy.
These Bilsteins should easily go 70-80k miles or more however they outlast just about everything else on the market, and even some stock shocks. Many other aftermarket gas charged shocks will likely need changed every 50-65k miles.
@@ShockSurplus Many thanks. But I meant shelf life in years of NOS shocks. Some of these are no longer manufactured and I wonder how long they last if not used. Will the nitrogen leak out after some time?
We do not like to keep any stock for more than a year because the seals start to dry rot and will often leak within the first 10k miles of use. We have definitely also walked out to our warehouse and have found shocks that are older than a year old sitting in a puddle of their own oil. If the shocks are compressed an extended every couple of days that does exponentially extend their shelf life because the seals get oiled and are less likely to dry out, but I doubt anybody is cycling their NOS shock inventory to keep them fresh.
@@ShockSurplus Thank you. That exactly was my concern. So that makes things difficult for me as I love the stock ride feel of my factory B6-bilsteins (comfort series for GMT400 Tahoe, BE5-2412 and BE5-2413), but these are no longer available new. I can only find them NOS at best. So I probably have to find a way to rebuild them. Although I heard they aren't rebuildable.
Bilstein still definitely makes B6 4600s for GMT400 Tahoes, Burbans, pick ups, and even Blazers so you can still get new Bilsteins that will work as good or better than the old stuff you have now.
Per this video, if I wanted a shock for f150 that DOES ride like a cadillac / cloud then what is the best option? Thank you
On the F150, depending on the year, the Fox 2.0 is typically one of the softest riding shocks available that maintains control. There are softer shocks for sure, like the kYB excel-g, but with softness comes loss of handling and a bit more body roll. Bilstein is a sportier ride, not the softest shock on the block.
Feel free to reach out to support@shocksurplus.com or 213-433-3616 to dive into more details and options for your vehicle.
Hi. I have a 2107 F150 and it has 88,000 miles. I was looking to replace my original stock rear shocks for a smother ride. My truck is mostly highway driven and on occasion will haul things. What would you recommend? Thank you
Bilstein 4600, Eibach Pro Truck, KYB Gas or KYB Monomax would be our recommendations.
Here's a link to our site for your truck
www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=2017-f150
@@ShockSurplus thank you
@ShockSurplus
I still have my bilstein b6 made for 3rd/4th gen rav4, and 2nd/3rd gen Tacoma shocks for my lifted xB.
Still haven’t got the change to hooked them up.
When that happens, what’s gonna happen to these shocks? Had them for almost a year now.
And once in a while I compress them to keep the oil flow.
What happens if they been sitting there too long or more than a year?
And if I finally get them hooked up to my vehicle, would it remain function as it should?
If shocks sit for too long the seals can start to dry out and will often fail faster however if you are cycling them regularly you have nothing to worry about. As they get cycled regularly the only thing you will have to worry about is oil degradation which will take at least 5 years to become an actual concern
@@ShockSurplus 5 years????
So 1 year is nothing. But it’s like a warning sign of it can start build up some problems.
So as long as I keep cycling, meaning compress the 4600’s by hand to keep the oil cycle and lubricate the internal components, than the shocks and struts will be fine?
@@ShockSurplus Is the why I have a rear 5100 on my Titan fail after only 20k miles? I put them on in 2018, so only 3k per year for 6 years.
@ShockSurplus
Why not make another video for two different reputable brands of which is the best monotube shock absorbers?
Bilstein b6/4600
vs.
KYB Gas-A-Just
Which one is firmer and softer, and better handling? And why both are still great option, even though one has a better advantage than the other.
Actually we do comparisons like these all the time. In fact we do tons of buyers guide videos for specific applications comparing a number of brands as well.
@@ShockSurplus that’s awesome. Hopefully we get to see a clip of battle of the shocks b6 vs. gas-a-just 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@ShockSurplus
I’m lookin got a bilstein b6/4600 shock absorbers for an extended length of 26”.
This is for a unique application for my 2015 lifted Scion xB. 2” in the front and 2.5” lift in the rear. My oem rear shocks are 23.80”
I have bilstein b6 from 2nd/3rd gen Tacoma but they are 22.60”. I can put custom shock extenders but I had a second thought, maybe I should of go for longer shocks.
To make them work from different vehicles using bilstein 4600 rear shocks.
What are ur thoughts about a bilstein b6/4600 rear shocks that’s 0-2” made for 97’-03’ ford f150?
It’s got top stud and bottom eyelet with same bolt size as my lifted xB have.
My xB rear shocks have 23.80” compared to 97’ ford f150 rear shocks are 24.50” I believe, but it also say 0-2”.
Does this mean it will extend up to 26”? Or is it 26.70”?
And what happens if I run a shock that’s 3 quarters longer than the exact 26” shock length?
I don’t want to come across we’re it makes it a bit harsh because it’s compress for small amount of 3 quarter inches for that.
What are ur thoughts on that?
I am not sure I would go through all that much trouble when you could probably just get a set of coilovers and shocks made for the application by somebody like Flatout Suspension flatoutsuspension.net/
@@ShockSurplusour unique application is not common yes. But we have 2K+ members of all gen lifted xB models.
We use 3rd/4th gen rav4 lift kit for the front and rear custom spacers for the rear.
I have the access to run bilstein b6 shocks and struts.
I just want to understand this problem.
What happens if I ran a shocks that exceeds my shock length by 3 quarter inch more than the factory length of the shocks?
Again. My oem rear shocks are 23.80”
The ones I saw is the 97’-03’ Ford F150 Bilstein b6 shocks.
And the shock length is 27.70”
And it’s for my street driving daily and never go off-road before. Just want to make my lifted xB relief so much better for a lifted application. Handling better, better stopping power, and much much less dip when braking or dip down from the back when hit the gas.
What’s are ur thoughts on that?
I’m not goin for coilovers to lower my xB. I’m sticking to lifted xB. Because I want to make it more useful as I can for my daily use, and it’s my only vehicle.
@@ShockSurplusI don’t mind goin through all the troubles lol. To me it’s fun to find the right specific lifted application. Lol
Flatout makes their custom shocks and coilovers for lifted applications. Rather than trying to butcher a set of shocks that were not tuned or designed for your application they can build you something that fits. That way you can get something that will bolt right in, without modifications and that is actually tuned for your application. As far as length is concerned you have to make sure that it is not too long to unseat the coil spring or limit upward suspension travel and not so short that the spring blocks out before the shock compresses or the bump stops engage.
@@ShockSurpluswill do. The front suspension between the xB2/2.5 2008-2015 and 3rd/4th hen rav4 2006-2018 shares the same platform and shares the same most of the parts.
I just want to match the bilstein b6. From the back to the front.
But u said flatout can make custom shocks or coilovers.
So can they make a custom made monotube shocks bilstein b6 version?
I’d still prefer a beefed up 46mm piston.
Did he say if you want your truck to ride like a cadillac these are your best bet or not the shock for you?
He said aren’t you best bet
@@Amokof that was a month ago, I put them on, love them!!! Rides like a Bentley 👍
@@markevans1641 Glad to hear! How do they handle small bumps and imperfections on the roads? I live in a city so 100% of my driving is done on highways and city streets, and i never haul/tow or go offroad. Would u recommend me to get these? Also is there an improvement with body roll? Thanks in advance.
@@Amokof I don't do any towing either, I do mostly highway driving,the road bumps are smoother, heads up I drove and still do caddy's my entire adult life, and with the hellwig sway bar, my truck rides better then my caddy, and handles like my c6, go for it, but look into sway bars, major difference truck drives like cloud!!! Good luck hope this helps
@@markevans1641 Thanks for the heads up on the sway bars, never thought about upgrading them. I appreciate your response 🤝🏻
Just replaced my 03 sequoia with 5100 and dobinson coil up front . The ride is perfect up front . But my new 4600’s in the rear seem too stiff . Not towing just want a highway princess . Would Icons or fox possibly give me a better Cadillac ride over the 4600’s ?
Icon or Fox 2.0 seem to get better feedback on the sequoias if you want more comfort