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Which Fox 2.0 Performance Series Shock Should Be on Your Truck?
Deciding on which @FOXFACTORY 2.0 Performance Series Shocks to add to your rig is more than just a Good - Better - Best scenario; the right shocks for your truck depend on several factors. Tune in and we'll help you decide.
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Dobinsons IMS Bronco Shocks Unboxed
zhlédnutí 520Před 21 dnem
Another rival for the Bilstein 6112s and Eibach Pro Truck Sports has entered the ring, @DobinsonsSuspension IMS Shocks, and boy are they a heck of a contender. With springs for every engine and door count, as well as options for constant load to boot, they offer a lot of customization to allow you to build a system that is dialed in for exactly how your Bronco is built, plus with their easier g...
Dobinsons MRR 3-Way Adjustable Bronco Shocks Unboxed
zhlédnutí 615Před 28 dny
If you are anything like us, you are beyond stoked that the @ARB4x4Accessories Dobinsons MRR coilovers for 21 6G Broncos are finally out. High end suspension options optimized for comfort on the trail at speeds most people drive them rather than all out high speed support are few and far between and we would argue these are the best option out there currently available for these new Broncos. Th...
Best Overland Suspension? Dobinsons MRR VS OME BP-51
zhlédnutí 4KPřed měsícem
@DobinsonsSuspension Dobinsons MRRs and @ARB4x4Accessories OME BP-51s are by far and away our favorite high end dampers designed for how most people are using their vehicles. Rather than be optimized for all out high speed off road performance like many of their similarly priced competitors, these shocks are designed for maximum comfort and stability at more moderate speeds out on the trail and...
OME Shocks: Preload and Height Settings Explained
zhlédnutí 12KPřed měsícem
The all new @ARB4x4Accessories MT64 shocks are now out and their longtime entry level shock, the Nitrocharger, received a recent refresh and is now known as the Nitrocharger Plus. Both of these use a slightly different method for setting preload and dialing in the right height for your vehicle, but it can be a bit confusing as to how they work and where you should set them up for your rig. No w...
OME MT64 vs Bilstein 6112 vs Icon 2.5 EXP
zhlédnutí 7KPřed měsícem
www.shocksurplus.com/blogs/news/old-man-emu-mt64-shocks-how-the-new-2-8-shock-stacks-up We have been saying the @bilsteinUS 6112s are not only one of the best values in aftermarket suspension but are also the sweet spot for most enthusiasts. They offer 2.6” body performance for 2.0 money, last an incredibly long time, and although they do make some compromises to keep the cost as low as it is, ...
Old Man Emu Shock Behaviors- Nitrocharger / MT64 / BP51
zhlédnutí 11KPřed měsícem
Old Man Emu Shock Behaviors- Nitrocharger / MT64 / BP51
Fox 2.0 vs Eibach Pro Truck - What Driver Are you?
zhlédnutí 6KPřed 2 měsíci
Fox 2.0 vs Eibach Pro Truck - What Driver Are you?
Bilstein's Best Bang for Buck Shocks on the Silverado
zhlédnutí 15KPřed 2 měsíci
Bilstein's Best Bang for Buck Shocks on the Silverado
Bilstein 8112 DSA+ Overview & Install on our Tacoma
zhlédnutí 13KPřed 4 měsíci
Bilstein 8112 DSA Overview & Install on our Tacoma
Fox vs King Shocks on the 21+ Ford Bronco
zhlédnutí 14KPřed 4 měsíci
Fox vs King Shocks on the 21 Ford Bronco
Silverado / Sierra 1500 Shock Guide - Bilstein / Eibach / Fox / King / Icon / Rancho / UCAs
zhlédnutí 25KPřed 4 měsíci
Silverado / Sierra 1500 Shock Guide - Bilstein / Eibach / Fox / King / Icon / Rancho / UCAs
@FOXFACTORY + @Suspensiondirect EClik Upgrade - Better than Fox DSC??
zhlédnutí 1,8KPřed 6 měsíci
@FOXFACTORY @Suspensiondirect EClik Upgrade - Better than Fox DSC??
Gen 1 Raptor Fox Shock Service - Rebuilding the Internal Bypass
zhlédnutí 2,2KPřed 6 měsíci
Gen 1 Raptor Fox Shock Service - Rebuilding the Internal Bypass
Balancing Act: Testing Eibach 2.0 Coilovers on the Bronco
zhlédnutí 5KPřed 6 měsíci
Balancing Act: Testing Eibach 2.0 Coilovers on the Bronco
Comfort or Performance - Drastically Different Ride Behaviors
zhlédnutí 11KPřed 7 měsíci
Comfort or Performance - Drastically Different Ride Behaviors
Dobinsons IMS Unboxing - Have Bilstein 6112s Met Their Match?
zhlédnutí 7KPřed 7 měsíci
Dobinsons IMS Unboxing - Have Bilstein 6112s Met Their Match?
@FOXFACTORY 2.0 Coilovers - Off the Shelf Valving vs Ford Performance
zhlédnutí 3,4KPřed 7 měsíci
@FOXFACTORY 2.0 Coilovers - Off the Shelf Valving vs Ford Performance
The Canam Maverick X3 gets a shock rebuild and thicker rear Eibach Sway Bar
zhlédnutí 1,2KPřed 8 měsíci
The Canam Maverick X3 gets a shock rebuild and thicker rear Eibach Sway Bar
RV Game Changer - @bilsteinUS Keeps it Steady, Banishes Float, and Delivers Handling Confidence
zhlédnutí 680Před 8 měsíci
RV Game Changer - @bilsteinUS Keeps it Steady, Banishes Float, and Delivers Handling Confidence
How Capable is the Crosstrek Suspension? 3 Driver's Impressions before the Upgrades
zhlédnutí 2,6KPřed 9 měsíci
How Capable is the Crosstrek Suspension? 3 Driver's Impressions before the Upgrades
Crosstrek Full Suspension Kit - Step by Step Install @rallitek_official and @bilsteinUS
zhlédnutí 9KPřed 9 měsíci
Crosstrek Full Suspension Kit - Step by Step Install @rallitek_official and @bilsteinUS
Bolt on Performance for the Crosstrek? @Ironman4x4America ATS 2" Lift Kit
zhlédnutí 6KPřed 9 měsíci
Bolt on Performance for the Crosstrek? @Ironman4x4America ATS 2" Lift Kit
Carli Pintop King 2.5 Shocks Through Arizona in our Ram 2500
zhlédnutí 4KPřed 10 měsíci
Carli Pintop King 2.5 Shocks Through Arizona in our Ram 2500
Reservoir Rebuild: Icon Vehicle Dynamics 2.5" Shock Service
zhlédnutí 3,2KPřed 10 měsíci
Reservoir Rebuild: Icon Vehicle Dynamics 2.5" Shock Service
Rebuild Your FOX TRD Pro Internal Bypass Shocks on the Tacoma / 4Runner / Tundra
zhlédnutí 4,2KPřed 10 měsíci
Rebuild Your FOX TRD Pro Internal Bypass Shocks on the Tacoma / 4Runner / Tundra
Level Up the Travel! It's @DobinsonsSuspension MRR Install Day for the 2022 Tundra (Step by Step)
zhlédnutí 10KPřed 10 měsíci
Level Up the Travel! It's @DobinsonsSuspension MRR Install Day for the 2022 Tundra (Step by Step)
Drive-Thru Icon Shock Special - Tacoma Gets Dialed
zhlédnutí 1,5KPřed 11 měsíci
Drive-Thru Icon Shock Special - Tacoma Gets Dialed
Bilstein at King Of The Hammers 2022
zhlédnutí 906Před 11 měsíci
Bilstein at King Of The Hammers 2022
Shock Surplus - We Don't Tell You What to Run
zhlédnutí 446KPřed 11 měsíci
Shock Surplus - We Don't Tell You What to Run

Komentáře

  • @jackmartin3146
    @jackmartin3146 Před dnem

    Will the King or Fox coil coilovers fit a 2024 f150 powerboast with ccd suspension?

  • @carlosbanegas7561
    @carlosbanegas7561 Před dnem

    Satisfying

  • @jonbaniak9097
    @jonbaniak9097 Před dnem

    Eibach cost a lot more than Bilstein too!😮

  • @velocity800
    @velocity800 Před dnem

    Did you delete the swaybar ,front and rear?

  • @desertsavagery
    @desertsavagery Před dnem

    Still looked surprisingly controlled despite having the wrong suspension setup.

  • @alexgarcia3900
    @alexgarcia3900 Před dnem

    I punish mine hard, and they take it on both my third gen tacom. Sucks to see this

  • @everettstormy
    @everettstormy Před dnem

    Love doing this stuff with my stock 2000 model f150 I purchased for $3500.

    • @user-id2mh7cm3i
      @user-id2mh7cm3i Před dnem

      LOL seriously 😂

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před dnem

      Amen!

    • @kregadeth5562
      @kregadeth5562 Před 15 hodinami

      And you. Blew the hocks out of it. Nice work! Everyone loves a leaky damper

    • @everettstormy
      @everettstormy Před 11 hodinami

      @kregadeth5562 can you clarify who you are taking to and what about? I saw no evidence of broken shock and my trucks shocks are fine.

  • @brookebrawley2142
    @brookebrawley2142 Před 2 dny

    I have a 2021 and am looking to level the front to match the rear with 5100 shocks. Any idea what setting on the shock should be?

  • @etown1002
    @etown1002 Před 2 dny

    How much for this service?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před dnem

      This specifically was about 825 because it needed new rod ends from a poor install. Normally about 750.

  • @raulrojas7303
    @raulrojas7303 Před 2 dny

    These made my 35s run smoother at higher highway speeds

  • @boskostevovic3110
    @boskostevovic3110 Před 2 dny

    My fox 🦊 racing 2.5 coil over costed me around 5600 6 K and 1 k to get them installed I’ve been hunting BUT not off-roading but atleast 10.000 KLMs worth of hunting roads which is technically off-roading but not severe cruise speeds and slow crawling but yes plus 70.000 KLMs So 80.000 KLMs and they’re beautiful shocks still going strong such a comfy ride puts the kids to sleep how smooth they are on road trips

  • @allianiete9453
    @allianiete9453 Před 2 dny

    How to buy this?

  • @augustbilstein2351
    @augustbilstein2351 Před 2 dny

    We have the pull test result for the 47-309975. The pull test was a shock from finished goods. This test was to review weld strength at either end of the post. The shock yielded 92kN to a specification of 60kN. Note that the eye-ring to post weld had the condition that was reported via the Shock Surplus youtube video. This result indicates significant tensile load and does not indicate a service performance issue.

  • @ShockSurplus
    @ShockSurplus Před 2 dny

    Check the mounts and let ys know

  • @kevin416323
    @kevin416323 Před 2 dny

    I just installed this today 😮😮😮

  • @JC-cd3zs
    @JC-cd3zs Před 2 dny

    Unfortunately the people who assemble these shocks (not just Bilstein) get paid minimum wage.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 2 dny

      Tons of turnover at the manufacturers lately

  • @Earth2FullGone2Space

    I just ordered a set of these from you 😨😩😩😱😖😖

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 2 dny

      We're heavily inspecting the latest batch

    • @Earth2FullGone2Space
      @Earth2FullGone2Space Před 2 dny

      @@ShockSurplus thanks I have full confidence in Shock Surplus so I’m not worried. I got my confirmation yesterday that it shipped 🙌 Thanks again and take care 👍

  • @wutyousay
    @wutyousay Před 2 dny

    This is really bad, thanks for looking out for the consumers.

  • @sawyerheslep8493
    @sawyerheslep8493 Před 3 dny

    See this is why I love shock Surplus! Letting ur costumers know what's up!

  • @ShockSurplus
    @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

    Bilstein knows of this issue, and is resolving it. These failed ones havent shipped to our customers.

  • @jasonnellis3566
    @jasonnellis3566 Před 3 dny

    will the 4600 strut be best for lowered trucks. i have 3 inch drop in the front and 4.5 in the rear.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      which vehicle? 4600 and 5100 vehicles are meant for factory height or minor lifted vehicles, not vehicles with 3" of drop. Belltech would be a better option. But give us a shout support@shocksurplus.com and we can dive into more details.

    • @jasonnellis3566
      @jasonnellis3566 Před 2 dny

      2014 silverado 1500 5.3L z71. Ink the I have a 3 inch drop and the rear 4.5. I removed lift block and overload springs. I have installed 3.0 rear shackles I couldn't

  • @sawyerheslep8493
    @sawyerheslep8493 Před 3 dny

    Still waiting for the biggest video of this year!

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      We're behind! Thanks for your patience. Long story short, they're worth the price tag.

    • @sawyerheslep8493
      @sawyerheslep8493 Před 3 dny

      @ShockSurplus nah thank u! It's honestly the most anticipated video of the year. So big hats off to yall. I'd rather u take ur time and do an excellent job, than rush it. Tbh there isn't a lot of content on these shocks. b-roll of the shocks working is always 👌!

  • @MogulFarmer
    @MogulFarmer Před 3 dny

    I had 3 stets of 5100's. On a 2008 (Access Cab TRD Sport) and 2013 Tacoma (4 Door, 6 foot Bed, TRD Sport). And on a 17 Silverado (LT 5.3). Absolutely loved them. Turned my truck into a "sports truck". Not stiff. Just an awesome shock that performs so well.

  • @BarlitosC
    @BarlitosC Před 4 dny

    Per this video, if I wanted a shock for f150 that DOES ride like a cadillac / cloud then what is the best option? Thank you

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      On the F150, depending on the year, the Fox 2.0 is typically one of the softest riding shocks available that maintains control. There are softer shocks for sure, like the kYB excel-g, but with softness comes loss of handling and a bit more body roll. Bilstein is a sportier ride, not the softest shock on the block. Feel free to reach out to support@shocksurplus.com or 213-433-3616 to dive into more details and options for your vehicle.

  • @sethwatson8056
    @sethwatson8056 Před 4 dny

    So pumped for mine😎🤘🏻

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      yeyas! they are on order through us?

    • @sethwatson8056
      @sethwatson8056 Před 3 dny

      @@ShockSurplus yes sir! Got everything but the front passenger coilover! It’s on back order so I’ll have to wait a little🥲

  • @k6v7n16
    @k6v7n16 Před 4 dny

    Where’s the video comparing the 2.5 EXP to the 2.5 IR? Where’s the video reviewing the 2.5 EXP?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      We could create one if there's interest

  • @alecquagliaroli3804

    Wow that is insane. Great work

  • @johndm4300
    @johndm4300 Před 5 dny

    I got a set of these on a ‘23 2.7 TB, snap ring up front. The front shocks ride great. The rears ride better than stock, but they’re loud. They have a clunk & clatter to them. I’ll have to go back to installer & check if anything is loose. I’ve read some reviews where others mention this issue and everything was torqued properly

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      that's definitely not normal, there shouldn't be any clunking whatsoever after the install. Sounds like a mounting issue, possibly the shop didn't re-use spring isolators up front.

    • @johndm4300
      @johndm4300 Před 3 dny

      @@ShockSurplus thanks for the reply. The rear shocks are the ones making the noise. Any thoughts on what they might’ve got wrong when installing the rears?

  • @wilurbean
    @wilurbean Před 5 dny

    235k on oem gx470 shocks with the variable dampers. They're not new feeling but work fine. The majority of slop in suspension at high mileage is due to bad bushings and ball joints. Over 2" lift requires so much more than UCAs. Also need LCAs, CVs that can handle the constant angle, larger bumps, track bar relocation, different sway bar links, etc etc and still it will put more unnecessary stress on big budget components like the transmission... all to get 1-1.5" more clearance. It's not surprising that the guys selling shocks would tell you to buy them 2-3× more often than necessary...jiffy lube says your oil lasts 3k miles. These guys also casually forgot to mention that aftermarket performance parts require much more frequent service and that most local shops won't have the expertise to rebuild shocks.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      No, sorry you're wrong. You dont need new LCAs or CVs going to 2.5" of lift on the GX or 4Runner platforms. Dont need new sway bar links either, as there are drop brackets. We've seen thousands of vehicles get these kits across a bunch of different brands, and talk with all major manufacturers.

  • @Travisj9935
    @Travisj9935 Před 6 dny

    Would installing the upgraded front coils that they offer help any? The higher spring rated ones...

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      Yes, you could change out the coils on the front since they're a universal type of coil, standard is a 16" x 450# coil, so you could go up to 500.

  • @realdogsroll
    @realdogsroll Před 7 dny

    I am trying to do a set up for a 1970s Cutlass Supreme and I am trying to get a luxury ride. I am riding and 22s, what set up do you suggest. I dont race and basically highway driving and city driving.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      Those 22" rims are providing a lot of the harshness in ride quality, its hard to rescue that. The best option is also one of the most expensive, and that being a coilover setup from QA1 most likely.

  • @parasramramrattan6880

    Me watching this right after I lowered my car.😶

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      Hah! not liking the bounce? How did you lower it? springs? coilovers?

  • @charliemike1049
    @charliemike1049 Před 8 dny

    Do you guys offer tuning of the MMR's?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      Yes we can get into that, email jeff@shocksurplus.com

  • @juandcfg1988
    @juandcfg1988 Před 8 dny

    hey guys! i want to decide about icon or dobinsons MRR. i like just to go slowly in the dirt.. i can run but nothing crazy just for few seconds. and i want to know. if the icon are good enought going slowly.. i want to get the cdcv valve shocks. and i dont wanna anything bouncy in my truck. my truck only have right know, prinsu roof rack, rooftop tent ikamper and a 180° awning. i will buying more stuff for the truck. so. what can you recommend me. i want a overland vehicule built.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      While we've loved our Icon setups on numerous vehicles, their CDCV setup is great, we would categorize those systems as a performance level shock that is meant to play at faster speeds. At lower speeds they may feel too sporty/firm for some, but being adjustable with the CDCV under a loaded vehicle with all that gear, it should be pretty comfortable (it was for us on our Tacoma with 600lb constant load). THe MRR will typically be more comfortable all around, has a lot more adjustment to fine tune the ride. The rebound adjustment on the MRR really makes a huge difference in ride quality and comfort, so that cant be overstated enough. Rebound, in some of our opinion's here, is the game changer for ride quality. Dobinsons typically last a bit longer than Icon in terms of needing service. Hit us up to dive into more details, support@shocksurplus.com

  • @Buy_My_Raptor
    @Buy_My_Raptor Před 8 dny

    I’m contemplating 4600 vs 5100 for my Outback. The biggest advantage in McPherson setup is the B8 is slightly longer so you can get lift without running a strut spacer.

  • @taifmunsur
    @taifmunsur Před 8 dny

    I am still confused. does the Eibach Stage 1 allow below 2 inch of lift? I keep hearing mixed information

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      Depends on which vehicle, but most of the time yes it will. There are numerous height settings on most of their adjustable height shocks and coilovers where you can remain at stock, go up an increment (+1" for example), and then the top setting is the highest lift, usually 2.5" or 3" on some applications. Email support@shocksurplus.com or checkout our site for more details on your given vehicle, would love to help.

  • @Cazuhal973
    @Cazuhal973 Před 8 dny

    I rock 6112 and 5160 on my 3rd gen , it handles Johnson valley really well especially when getting air

  • @steelllsteell9353
    @steelllsteell9353 Před 8 dny

    king and fox 😎

  • @jwatson923
    @jwatson923 Před 8 dny

    2021 tundra, currently have 6112, but leaking oil. Will my springs fit on Icon exp? If no can I use an OME spring on the icons?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      how long have you had the 6112? warranty? the Icon EXP are meant for factory springs, we wouldn't run the OME springs on there, but then again i dont think we've heard of anyone doing so.

  • @Dginny865
    @Dginny865 Před 9 dny

    STOP SAYING FCKNG VEHICLE

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      we deal in cars and trucks, so vehicle is the general term when what we're talking about applies to both. have a good day

  • @big_mike_nyc
    @big_mike_nyc Před 9 dny

    Can someone recommend a good shock for a 2015 3500HD crew cab dually. I tow almost every day with a conventional hitch.

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      Bilstein for sure, stay away from Rancho (in our opinion). The KYB Gas or KYB Monomax are also good.

  • @steveschilling5966
    @steveschilling5966 Před 9 dny

    adjustment is garbage

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      on these specifically, or in general? the adjustment on these is a slight pain, but not a nightmare by any means, just takes some patience. We can adjust all 4 corners in about 10 mins

  • @TheToyotatundra07
    @TheToyotatundra07 Před 10 dny

    On my '15 4runner with almost 73.000 miles with xreas and front leveling spacers I had two leaking shocks. Changed to 4600 at the front using the upper groove of the two available on the 4600 shock (no need for the spacers anymore, it is leveled with the back) and at the rear original Toyota Tokico shocks. 4600 were cheaper than oem at the front and oem were cheaper than the 4600 at the rear. Very close to the OEM ride. Perhaps just a tiny bit stiffer, barely noticeable. Part number on the 4600 is 24-121750 and at the rear 48530-35082.

  • @danielfuentes7979
    @danielfuentes7979 Před 10 dny

    Are you running e ply tires?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      This Tacoma has gone through about 3 sets of bfg tako2, which are c load

  • @PinballRehab
    @PinballRehab Před 10 dny

    Just to clarify your answer above. You’re saying there will be no ride improvement between stock setup (hoss 2.0) and 6100’s?

    • @connormuench8489
      @connormuench8489 Před 8 dny

      No, he's just talking about spring rate. The shock itself gives you ride improvement based on all the other comments (still waiting for the dobinsons IMS review for mine!)

  • @danieldee2287
    @danieldee2287 Před 10 dny

    Can you guys do locked offroad next?

  • @juandcfg1988
    @juandcfg1988 Před 10 dny

    the piston or these dobinsons are lineal, progresive or disgresive ?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      dobinsons uses a linear piston most of the time

  • @vorticosecomb
    @vorticosecomb Před 10 dny

    Very very helpful video. Glad I came across it. I installed my eibach lowering springs on my 17 Daytona 5.7 about 4 years and 30k miles ago now and just hit 55k miles so it is definitely time for shocks. Ive got strut tower braces, upgraded swaybars and bushings from eibach, and BMR Rear upper control arms. The front clunks and the rear has a crazy squeak at the moment at low speed actuation. Was seriously considering coilovers, but did not even consider that eibach would have shocks to match their springs so maybe that is the move. I'll be considering between those and the bilstiens now (also probably need end links too) RIP my wallet

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      RIP! The Eibach dampers felt really nice, this Charger driver like to feel on rails and the Bilstein made the different there. Sounds like you want a tight handling setup, there was a noticeable different between the eibach and bilstein b6 shocks

    • @vorticosecomb
      @vorticosecomb Před 3 dny

      @@ShockSurplus interesting! I’m definitely partial to the tighter handling feel! I appreciate that information

  • @daniellopezd
    @daniellopezd Před 11 dny

    did 6112s with Icon Delta UCA on mt 2018 4runner and could not be happier

  • @miller440x
    @miller440x Před 11 dny

    Great video, very helpful. Are you pushing the ifp all the way up or is there a set depth and where do you find the info on the depth?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus Před 3 dny

      there is a set depth, which measure where it sits before it comes out of the shock (set by fox), so we can reset it there on the rebuild.