Rancho Shocks vs Fox Shocks - In the same league?
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Two super popular shock options, but which one is best for your rig and your riding style? Let's find out.
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just bought my front shocks from you guys fox 2.0 performance. 2006 GMC. ill get the rears when i recoup some of money since these things are worth a small fortune.
This is a sales pitch and not an apples to apples comparison. As the host suggests, "Don't let forums or other people that you may not know drive your decision on equipment for your vehicle." You tube is one of them. I say absolutely DO allow forums and other people to sway your decision since those forums are largely opinions, not driven by sales. I tuned in to watch a comparison, but it turned into a bash session for Rancho. Nobody watching these videos is going to have their shocks sent off to be rebuilt while their vehicles sit on jack stands for two weeks. Most people watching these videos will just purchase new shocks and sell the old ones on marketplace. I suppose you got through to some suckers out there.
I am not sure where you are getting that this is a sales pitch, and from the sounds of things, you definitely are not familiar with our channel, but we base all of what we say on real-world testing, most of which you can see in many of the videos we have posted. Where the forums can misdirect you is most people on forums have only had experience with one or maybe two aftermarket suspension systems on their application, where we test everything we can get our hands on. We have spent many hours on forums debunking much of the claims, and providing actual information and data. That is not to say there is not good info from your local know-it-all all or forum lurker, but you will be hard-pressed to find anybody with more test miles on these kinds of setups. We are in a unique position where we can actually test EVERYTHING on our own vehicles, which is not something that can be said by the majority of people, including forums and certainly others dealers. We have even tested and reviewed a number of products we do not even sell or list on our site. The reality is we do not care if you buy from us or not; we are here to educate people on what might be best for their application. In fact, if we were trying to sell you something to make money off our viewers rather than educate, we would be pushing you into Rancho RS9000s. Although the price is lower, the margins are usually much higher and are almost always in stock. With that said, they account for the vast majority of our warranty and defective product claims as well as customers who are just plain unhappy with the ride and performance of their vehicles. If anything, the only pitching we are doing is to convince our customers to buy something other than a Rancho that will guarantee they will not call us back angry about their shocks failing or not performing as they should less than six months after the purchase. Which even if you consider that a sales pitch, that is still educating people to make a purchase they will be happier with. Furthermore, it does not do us any favors to push a false agenda to sell you something that is not right for you or give you the wrong information, as at the end of the day, that is just more work and money lost in returns for us. Even with all the data proving they were not worth our time, we still have tested Ranchos on several of our own vehicles, so we could speak from a place of experience. In all honesty, you may see it as a hard bashing on Rancho, but we were actually going easy on them in this video.
If nobody wanted to rebuild their shocks for half the price of replacing them, we would not be booked until the end of the year for same-day services, where you can drive your truck into our shop in the morning and drive out with their shocks fully rebuilt. Nor would there be hundreds of companies whose only business is servicing shocks. Even if you are going to send your shocks to us, most of our customers would prefer to have their truck on blocks for a week rather than pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars more on a replacement.
@@ShockSurpluswell whatever you say, i agree with the comment above. It’s a sales pitch. I have driven rancho shocks from a long time. Not one issue. Say whatever you want to say, you guys are just a shop versus a manufacturer preferring rancho and not one but majority car manufacturers. You think you have more experience than those engineers at those car companies, then prove it that product of your recommendation never came back to you half snapped or breaking a wheel barring. You are one of those mechanics that recommends bf goodrich tires over Michelins or firestones.
Did we watch the same video? He was pretty unbiased. Most of the things he said are objective truths. At the end he even said let’s talk about your vehicle and needs and get you what works for you. Never once did he say always get the Fox over the Rancho.
Dude, I felt "Sales Pitched " just looking at his eyes reading script, and tone of voice... I want to go buy a Washer/Dryer combo, even though mine still works, right after this scripted vid........., VS buying some shocks...
Perhaps "The Corporation"
"Who's Payin'." Might want to re-think their investment....?
Just sayin', in a (Probably Harsh) non-Corporate way....
A Spade is a Spade.
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I looked up on ranch site said 1-1/4-in. Diameter Sintered Iron piston for the 9000 which is 31.75mm piston.
Sounds about right. Bilstein 5100 have a 46 mm piston and Fox 2.0 have a 48 mm piston.
Just installed a pair of Rancho 5000x on the rears of my 2019 f250, note I am still running OEM shocks for my fronts. But going through the comment section I can see why people say it floats and feels like “not having a shock” it’s definitely way softer and I definitely think my bump stops are gonna be eating a lot 😂, now build quality wise out the box it makes sense for the $70-90 price point. Now if you’re just saving up for some 2.0’s or the carli kit, Id best aim at the 4600’s from billsteins. Haven’t taken them off to the fire roads yet but I know it’s already twice as softer 😂 and I feel the body roll in the rear when taking a curve. But in all 1-10 give them a solid 6.5 definitely not disappointed they’re $100 shocks what more is there to expect ??
thanks for the feedback
want to have smoother less rigid ride in f250, '21 4x4 diesel crew cab. my air springs in rear helped but really want smoother ride from front suspension. is rancho rs9000xl a good fit?
or fox 2.0? and do they work with the supersprings summo springs or is that not needed if I don't plan on adding weight to front end?
btw I mostly drive with light loads in bed and tow a 14k max 5th wheel rv. wonder if adjustables would benefit ride conditions
I’ve been having the toughest time searching for, “the perfect shock” I understand it’s how I drive and where I drive. I live it in Vegas and there’s not much off roading I do. There is a lot of bumps on the road and I wish to get a shock to best absorb the bumps. Basically I want to make the truck ride like a cloud. It’s a truck so it won’t ever ride like a cloud but I’m looking for something that can get me close to it. It’s a 2001 Tacoma 2WD PreRunner.
the shocks that will get you closest, and can mostly achieve what you're after, are a set of King Shocks, approximately $3k for the set. If that's not in your budget, Fox 2.0 can get you close for about $1200/set. If that's not in your budget, then maybe KYB gas
I need to replace the shocks on an 05 Ford Excursion 6.0l powerjoke.
I've been going back and forth between rancho/fox/bilstein as I'm not sure which will be the best.
Suspension is a lifted 6 inches over stock with leaf springs on all 4 corner. Tires are 325 60r20.
I'm looking for the best ride quality over all.
I do know and understand that no matter what leaf spring will never be as forgiving as coil springs.
It'll be hard to get comfortable because 1. it's a full leaf pack system 2. you have a 6" lift. The best we can try to do is get you something valve softer? but note if we aim for more comfort it may provide less functionality if you're using this truck for anything else outside. It's harder to get the bet of both worlds.
I have a 06 F-250 with a leveling kit with stock shocks on what shocks would be better for towing a travel trail and on a fire service road daily. When loaded with trailer trailer truck currently squats a few inches. Thinking I need new shock plus it rides like a bull when unloaded. Thanks
Shocks definitely are not going to reduce sag, but I would definitely recommend taking a look at either Bilstein 5100s or Eibach Pro Truck Sport shocks. The Eibachs will be more comfortable particularly on those fire service roads, and the Bilsteins will be better under a load, but a touch firmer.
I have a 1992 Chevy k1500, I would really love to improve the ride quality. Has a 3 inch body lift only. Any recommendations?
You would run any stock height shock if you did a body lift.
@@ShockSurplus I think they were asking for a recommendation of which brand.
Hi Sean,
I have a 2018 2500 HD Duramax that I installed a Suspension MAXX leveling kit that increased the height 2.5 inches. I tow an 1800 lb 5th wheel travel trailer with Firestone Ride-Rite air bags under the rear.
I’m totally satisfied with the ride with or without the trailer.
Recently I took an 8500 mile round trip across the country on some pretty bad roads and I’m thinking the stock shocks need to be replaced.
My question is, should I replace the front shocks with something like a Rancho coil over to help the leveling kit or would a stock replacement be adequate?
Thanks in advance and for all the information you put out to us DYI Guys.🇺🇸
Your 2500 does not use a coilover set up unless you have purchased a coilover conversion kit. We suggest looking at Bilstein 5100 for your towing needs.
I have a 1978 bronco with a 4 inch lift. I’m looking for the best comfortable ride down the miles of gravel roads I have to frequently travel down. Some washboarded roads as well. What would you recommend?
Please contact our sales team directly via phone or email and we'll help guide you to the right direction.
I have a 2021 silverado 4x4.. mostly will be driving on street but off road at times n I want to haul a travel trailer.. what size idk yet.. I have rancho shocks n feels like I'm going over a wave when I go over a bump.. on street. I prefer fox.. had them on my jeep. What would you recommend for me n my needs with this vehicle. Z71 lt.. ?
1500, 2500 or 3500. A 2022 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 has multiple versions.
Would using a shock boot, like the bilstein 5100’s, increase the life of the fox shocks? By keeping the piston rod clean?
To some degree yes, but just like your engine, transmission, differential oil and etc., the fluids inside the shocks will go bad overtime. In all performance focused shocks, they're all pretty much rebuildable so you can maintain the longevity of the overall components as long as possible.
I have a 2015 jeep wrangler no lift what would be a nice choice?
Depends what you're using it for. Bilstein 4600 for OEM stock height, Bilstein 5100 for towing and hauling and Fox 2.0 for off-roading.
Best shock for road comfort? 2020 F250 7.3 gas-stock
Bilstein 4600 by a mile. They last forever, and they give a smooth ride and good handling performance even when you're towing or carrying a load in my experience
Bilstein 4600 is are go to for anyone looking for an OEM replacement that provides better comfort and stability.
Have a 2022 gmc Sierra 3500 diesel - single rear wheel. It came factory with rancho shocks. What would be a good shock that softens the ride a bit but still can tow when needed.
Eibach Pro Truck Sports would probably be the perfect choice. They should be a lot more plush unloaded while still being more stable under a load.
I have the Bilstine shocks on my 2016 JK think their a big upgrade to stovk
definitely, do you have a lift?
Is there any really good shock for an awd 1500 Chevy express, we are doing a 2 inch suspension lift and I'd like to continue my overland travels!! We travel fairly light other than my 3 dogs and my wife
What year is this Chevrolet Express 1500 AWD? Please contact our sales team directly or check out our website.
I have a Ram 3500 non dually gas 2018. Pull a 33 foot toy hauler 5 times a year, need a shock to soften up my truck! Rides like a rock! Any suggestions under 200 shock?
$200 for a full set or a per shock?
Got a 14’ Silverado 1500, use it as an everyday and for off-roading, I’m looking at either the ranchos or foxes what do y’all recommend
Go with Fox.
Hi guys. Thanks for the video. I really would appreciate your advice. I own a Chevy Tahoe PPV 2015 (bought it as a second hand vehicle) which as you may know has a really stiff suspension. It just comes out of the factory like that 🙈 So I am using it as a civilian. What would be the best solution (front & rear) for me as my old man is not happy while a passenger with the confort. I would like it to be as comfortable as possible...smooth ride ideally. What can I get to replace the stiff ones it already has ? Thank you 🙏🏻
The PPV models run a little stiffer and lower spring set up all around compared to the regular Tahoes so they would definitely be firm, especially without all the gear and accessories the cops load into them. If it were me and comfort was the name of the game, I would run a set of Fox 2.0s and grab either a stock or lifted spring designed for a standard Tahoe in the rear.
I have a 2019 Silverado duramax 3500 ( front level from dealer) with air bags to level when towing 5th wheel travel trailer. Considering Fox 2.0, Bilstein 5100 and my son told me about Rancho. Your recommendation for street / hwy use (don't particularly love the stiff ride). Thanks
If you're towing, we do suggest Bilstein 5100 but they do ride a bit firmer than stock. But that's intended because it's used for that specific towing usage.
Hope you can help or someone with real time using thr shocks. I have newer chevrolet 2500 gas with factory ranchos. Im wanting softer ride no so stiff and feel every bump. Definitely feel every little thing. I know its a hd truck and i love it but seats in these new trucks are so hard and i have been recently diagnosed with back problems. I dont need shocks for hauling heavy loads. Mainly on paved and gravel road couple times week that is always washboarded. What is my best choice without spending 1000s. 4600s? I keep hearing mixed reviews on fox shocks? Any help is appreciated. And no not selling the hd truck.
Fox 2.0s will definitely be the most comfortable option and are a great choice particularly if you are not towing or hauling anything serious. At $700 a set they can be a little pricey, and with your use will likely need to be serviced every ~30k miles, so if you would like something a little longer lasting a Eibach Pro Truck Sport package would be a great choice. The Bilsteins work great as well, but if you are not towing or hauling anything heavy, you can afford to go with something a little softer. With that said, it will always be a 3/4 truck, so as long as it has stock leaf springs and still has torsion bars in the front, it will almost always be pretty stiff.
How do you like the Rancho shocks on your PowerWagon? I thought you previously had Fox 2.0 on them. Then switched them out to Fox 2.0 with DSC? But I noticed that on this video you had the OEM Bilsteins you removed. So confused.
We went form Rancho RS9000XL to Fox 2.0 to Fox 2.0 Reservoir and very soon it will have King 3.0
I have the rancho 9000xl on my ram 3500 2wd and they are worse then stock, even cranked all the way up they dont have near enough compression or rebound, the front end of my truck floats and bounces really bad like a boat.
We are sorry to hear that. If you purchase them through us, you do have their limited lifetime warranty that we can help proceed to process.
@@ShockSurplus i appreciate it, i did not purchase them threw shock surplus, just explaining my experience with them.
Thank you for your insight. Hopefully the company that sold you the items can help you out.
@@ShockSurplus amazon. But we will see. I have been searching for a shock that will work in a factory location install. But the choices are so few im just going to modify stock location to accept a 6” travel fox 2.0z
I mean it is a ram 3500
I have a 2006 Jeep LJ with FOX98450311 which is a 2.0 Fox Adventure Series out of the box. Can these shocks be revalved? I am looking for a smoother ride for daily driving surface streets and interstate. If not what would you recommend? Jeep is lightweight...just 275/70/17 ATs. No extra weight in it.
Adventure Series cannot be re-valved, the performance can be and all the 2.5 and 3.0s. Look at Bilstein 4600, those are good OEM replacement for daily driving.
I just got a Silverado 1500 2004 4x4 on leveling kit with 20 inch wheels what shocks you will put in? It will be driving 90% on the road maybe sometime go off road.
If you ever tow with it, look at Bilstein 5100. If you don't then look at Fox 2.0.
What do you recommend for F150 4X4 XLT , no lift kit......road ride . TIA
Go with Blistein 4600 or 5100s
Legion 16 is on the right track. Bilstein 4600 are are OEM replacement if you're looking for just a simple replacement for your factory shocks. Bilstein 5100 are an entry leveling noted for towing and hauling. In some cases, depending on the vehicle, the 5100 only work with lifted vehicles.
I have a 2019 chevy trail boss LT with the stock Ranchero shocks. When they hit a bump on the road, they make the backend hop. I am looking to replace all 4 shocks. I will be towing a tracker with it for some property I'm about to buy. I need something that will help with control and the ride. I have a bad back and I need a smoother ride. What do you suggest? Thanks
Those stock Ranchos are comically underdamped, and can not control the rate of the rear springs at all which is likely where the hop you are feeling is coming from. I would definitely be looking at the Bilstein 5100s for sure. They have Trail Boss/AT4 spec shocks and struts that should greatly improve ride and handling with or without a load.
@@ShockSurplus and what about the ball joint and the control arms on the TBs is it required to change them before doing any changes to the suspension cause I heard of multiple cases of them snapping after changing the suspensions
I have an 07 H2 Hummer SUT...
The stock shocks are tired. I want to make it ride the best it can. Which brand do you recommend? Thanks
The most comfort and performance would probably be the Fox 2.0. Best handling and longest lasting would be the Bilstein 5100 (not as comfortable as Fox though). Lots of options, contact us to dive into more detail, here are those options
www.shocksurplus.com/search?Position/Full-Set&query=hummer-2007
I have a 2018 jk pro comp 9000 shocks 40000 miles 2.5 inch lift with 35 s looking for new shocks daily driver not much off road use any suggestions
Bilstein 5100, Fox 2.0, Falcon 2.1 - all our favorite options on that setup. The Rancho RS7MT is also similar to the Bilstein, but a tad softer on-road.
www.shocksurplus.com/search?Year/2018/Make/Jeep/Model/Wrangler/DriveType/4WD
why rebuild shocks if the rebuild is almost as much as a new one? And if the "rebuilder" messes up that will be a waste then.
We definitely have gotten a lot of shocks in for service that other "rebuilders" have made a mess of. It ends up almost being cheaper to replace the shock, but in most cases, if you stay on top of service so there are no serious repairs that need to be made, we only charge $100 for a rebuild on a basic Fox 2.0 IFP. Those go for $199.95 new, so it still is cheaper to service than replace; with that said, once we have to start replacing things like the shafts, rod ends, pistons, or bodies, it starts to make more sense to replace. Really the 2.0 IFP smooth body shocks are the only line of shocks at Fox where rebuilding or replacing is worth questioning since they are the cheapest thing Fox makes. Every other line is more expensive to buy outright and much more worthwhile rebuilding. It also is really nice when you have a somewhat unique application where shocks might be hard to come by in the future. If you can get a good set of Fox, King, Icon, or other serviceable shocks, it does not matter if manufacturers discontinue them as you can continue to have them rebuilt.
Which one do you recommend for Tacoma 2018 stock suspension, I use for traveling I never go to off road
If you're keep this completely stock, we suggest Bilstein 4600 as a starting point. If you use your Tacoma to tow or haul, then look at the Bilstein 5100. If you ever plan to take this off-roading, Eibach Pro Truck or Fox 2.0
What shock absorbers do I need for a 1996 f250 2wd 7.3 powerstroke with original height?
I use my truck to load and tow 3 times a week
Bilstein 4600s would be a great option www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-4600-monotube-gas-oem-shocks-set-1980-1998-ford-f250-2wd
@@ShockSurplus Thank you very much for the recommendation
Hi, I have a stock 2020 Sahara JLU. I will be towing 3,000lbs. What shock would be best. I will not lifting be lifting the Jeep and it's a daily driver. Trails will be limited.
The two towing shocks would be Bilstein 5100 or KYB Monomax.
@@ShockSurplus Thank you. I was looking at Rancho 9000xl that have adjustments. The 5100 was also the other shock I was looking at.
My Fox 2.0 shocks are squeaking now and they’re only about 2 months old. Is there a specific reason they could be squeezing? Thanks.
Seems early to be squeaking, what vehicle do you have? could be the lower mounts if there are spherical bearings
F250 king ranch freeway driving lift?
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Ill cut the bullsh%$. I have owned all of these shocks on my Tacoma and will tell you the best ones for the money are the Rancho 9000xl. Let me tell you why. Adjust-ability and build quality. I have never had a problem with these shocks although you will see many bad reviews from company employees trying to get people to buy their products. Save some money and just dial in your favorite settings in front and back.
Hello i have a grand cherokee laredo 2002 what shock i need for 2.5 lift coi spring??
We don't see much offered for the front spring for your vehicle. Best we can do is ARB 2935 for 1.5" lift and stock weight load.
@@ShockSurplus ok for the rear not the front
Will rancho rs900xl work on a 1990 daihatsu rocky 4x4 ?
They only offer rear shocks for your vehicle which you can find below:
www.shocksurplus.com/products/rancho-rs9000xl-adjustable-shocks-rear-pair-for-1990-daihatsu-rocky
I got a jeep tj with a 3.5 inch JKS JSpec lift. And it kinda rides like shit on regular road, it bounces like Im on wash boards, and every little bottle is very harsh and jarring. The JKS Shocks suck, what can I do, what shocks will work for me? I want smooth on road hanlding more than extreme off roading. Jeep tj is otherwise stock, and very lightly loaded, will never tow.
Unfortunately that is somewhat the case with most "House Brand" shocks. They just want to give you a shock that works well enough so that it is safe to drive and really nothing more. If onroad handling is a big concern then I would definitely lean towards a Bilstein 5100
ahh I see. What about Rancho rs5000x? I mean I still do some offroading and like trails and little crawling? On regular roads right now, my jeep bounces up and down like its on a washboard, and when I hit a bump its really harsh and the jeep gets unsettled while other cars just take a little bump and go about their day@@ShockSurplus
The RS5000s probably will not be any better than the JKS shocks you have now. You definitely are going to want to run a Monotube like a Bilstein 5100 or Skyjacker M95 if you want something softer
I can't watch any video where the person says "umm" so many times.
I counted 23,846 times before I turned it off. And I wasn't even at the halfway mark
I have an 06 Silverado with a 4.5 inch lift kit, what size fox shock should I purchase?
Depends on whether this is a 1500, 2500 or 3500.
@@ShockSurplus it’s a 1500 2wd
Only kit offered that would work is Bilstein 5100.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b8-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-for-1999-2006-chevrolet-silverado-1500-4wd-rwd-w-3-6-lift
Will any of these help with bed bounce ? 2022 tundra
Any aftermarket shocks will help with stability. Some help more than others. There are two brands in this video, Rancho RS5000X and Rancho RS9000XL are softer than Fox. Bilstein 5100 and Eibach Pro Truck are around the Fox 2.0 in terms of comfort and usage.
is the rear too firm on your setup? no brand has aftermarket shocks available for the new Tundras just yet. If its too firm, you can load it up with a couple hundred pounds and it'll be much better. Otherwise wait for 2.0s from Fox to soften it up.
@@ShockSurplus more of a bumpiness feeling, indicative of too much gas pressure. The secondary resonate vibration of the bed, seems to be the frame flexing, over railroad tracks nonetheless. I tried 150lbs of bagged sand better but the rear moved around a bit, it seems the new rear coil springs might be progressive.
Rear shocks look very similar to 2019 shocks. i may try a few shccks in the back as they are easy to swap out. Outside of the suspension in this truck, the drivetrain is pretty amazing from my 5.7. Ahh. the fun of being an early adopter!
Aftermarket shocks can be good but don't last as long as Factory shocks one of their downfalls is not having a stiff sleeve to protect the rod they had those generic ugly boots that are put on with a zip tie
Although certainly the case with many aftermarket shocks, we do find that brands like Eibach and Bilstein make parts that will at the very least last as long as stock if not longer. With that said the reason the other options do not last as long has little to do with the boot design, in fact most higher end dampers do not even use a boot in the first place. Regardless of whether they use a plastic shield, rubber accordion boot, or no boot at all, a shocks longevity is all about the seals, oil, and internal damper design.
Hello guys, I have a 2017 sierra denali 6.2L with magneride, it rides like a horse horrible and Im tired of that, Im looking to buy new struts and shocks, Im looking for confort, a soft suspension, I dont tow or carry heavy loads, wich would be my best choice and whats going to happens if the new struts doesnt have a conection? A bounch of lights in my dash for sure right? I really appreciate your feedback, thanks
So we don't have anything that would work to replacement or bypass the magnetic ride. You would need to at least source a delete or bypass kit. Then you can run any suspension from there.
@@ShockSurplus thanks a lot for the reply, so probably I have to check with dealership
No problem at all. Let us know if you need anything else. Cheers
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