Turkesterone Review | A Complete Guide To Ecdysteroids
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- Turkesterone Review | A Complete Guide To Ecdysteroids
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0:00 - Introduction
1:00- The basics
2:22 - In vitro research
3:55 - In vivo rodent research
5:25 - Human Clinical research
8:20 - Mechanisms of action
11:38 - Application
12:48 - Conclusion
Hey man. I am from Uzbekistan. Most of the herb gathered here, and my first language is Russian . If you need translation of research papers, I can help out.
Good man!
Hero
I need you to get seeds, and start a garden! Not for me, just for you. May you be swole forever.
@@theyetti90 it's a wild weed, I already called guys who gather it. Always trying to catch a business opportunity. XD
@@Hentai_Ouji turkesterone is found primarily in spinach…
The new DEFINITIVE review. Great stuff.
Great job. Best Turkesterone video on CZcams. Enjoyed the Tongkat Ali & nicotine info. Keep up what your doing...just subscribed.
For people considering ecdy/turk, I suggest that you split the doses evenly throughout the day (rather than taking them in a preworkout fashion). It works much better when it's constantly in your system with stable levels kind of like creatine. Maybe a 9am-2pm-8pm split.
Thanks for the input man.
Yeah bro I just take 1g of ecdy with each meal. Shits amazing
@@brandonyoung4910 what benefits have you specifically noticed yourself? Thanks 🙏
I’ve been takin a g of Turk a day and as much ecdy I can swallow (ones expensive the other isn’t) for about 3 months. The low dose of anavar comparison is real, but My endurance is improving rapidly. IMO this stuff might be a great cuttin supplement coz I ain’t seen my abs in years an them bitches are back. Early days for this shit 2 thumbs up so far
@@TheReminderChannnel its like a legit PED. Strength, size, fullness. all while getting ab it leaner and remaining 240 lbs. its just a slower acting PED basically. been on 500mg-1g with each meal (2-4 meals a day) for since like May. Highly recommended if you have all your other variables in order like diet and training and sleep. This will absolutely push you further.
Amazing vid, thanks for sharing your research!
Oh yes, been waiting for this one
Currently stacking Turk ( 3 times a day ) with Ecdy ( twice a day ) and all I can say is, if your dieting properly and doing everything right… you’re gonna feel these compounds work and work well… if you’re on pizza and burgers and only hitting the gym casually, you won’t notice a thing.
This is the problem though. Is it actually the supplement or is it because you are eating right?
@l̼̓ yes but if you took steroids, even with a shitty diet, you would experience muscle mass and strength increase
@l̼̓ yeah I totally agree, just to say, because some people say turk is the new steroids
nonsensical
What is I’m eating pizza and burgers but smashing the gym 5 days a week lifting heavy
Awesome video brother. Thanks for breaking it down into simple terms for us to understand. One of the major reasons I was concerned about going through with Turkesterone was the possibility of Gynecomastia. I’m happy you covered the pathway through it works.
Still theoretical but, promising at the same time. Everyone’s biology is different though, so if you notice any breast tenderness, I would discontinue.
Zach, love your Video. It was very informative.
Good work mate love your videos keep doing what you're doing.
Glad you like it man
Informative and very well presented video.
Much respect for the info my man.
good video and explanation of everything. hope this goes viral.
Me too lol
This was an excellent explanation. Thx.
Really appreciate your data-based evaluation of supplements which focus on risk/benefit. Very welcome given all the useless marketing and over-the-top anecdotal testimonials out there...
Hey man, great vid.
I was wondering if there is a limit to how many different herbal supplements one can take while ones body still gets the maximum amount of benefits from each and all of the different ones? Or are they all indepedent and thus the more the merrier (ofc in the right dosages and cycles).
Thx in advance :)
Love this channel, thank you !
so glad I've stumbled into this account going to binge it tomorrow .You are going to blow up soon with content like this.
Your voice makes everything you said correct.
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wow, just found your ch. love the edits and atmosphere, good stuff man. subbed
Glad you like it man. welcome
Amazing video I lured so much i am definitely hit dat subscribe button ✌🏾
There’s a difference between the ajuga Turkestanica extract and turkesterone. Turkesterone seems to be a component of the extract and can vary in percentage of the extract depending on the time the plant was harvested. 500mg of the extract could result to anywhere between 10-150mg of actual turkesterone. This could explain those dosage discrepancies you referenced.
But they all sell Ajuga Turkestanica Extract. How do you know, how much Turkesterone their product have?
@@shigWalkin some companies will say the product has 500mg of ajuga Turkestanica extract (standardized to 10% turkesterone or ecdysteroids).
Brilliant guy ❤️💎 just found you and absolutely love your diving 💎💎 very good info and I was skeptical about this promising rubish 🤭
I am on enclomiphene from a dr and Ecdysterone from Mpmd and this is the first time anyone has even mentioned what happens when these two things are taken at the same time.
They can theoretically compliment each other, but the intake needs to be spaced out so they don't negate each other.
Here is what I know. When u hit a wall and haven’t made gains in several months, even a small amount of effectiveness is highly welcoming. Started my 2 month Turk cycle yesterday.
good luck bro, keep us updated if it works well for you, i would love to know.
No need to cycle bro you can actually take it year round no side effects
Same with mk677 10mg a day year round and you will make great gains
How about being happy you actually made it there , you hit a wall for a reason it’s natures way of telling you that’s enough
Did it work at all for you?
Great video man! Would like to know your experience using turk or ecdy though.
I’ll post an update soon
I've been taking Ecdysterone for like 8 months now, and i really think its making a difference, i'd say it helps me by 10-15% (both build muscle when bulking and perserve it when cutting).
Sounds bout right. I experienced more muscle retention while cutting as well
Any side effects or similar stuff? Do they hurt liver or kidneys?
What brand?
Damn, great video. Well researched and straight to the point. You got a sub from me! I'm going into my 4th week of Turk and have been noticing positive results since the first week. I've had a small, but noticable, increase in strength. Running a powerbuilding block right now and keep hitting PR's, after mostly being at a plateau. I've also noticed an increase in metabolic rate. Not sure if it's BMR, NEAT, TEPA, etc but it seems that my surplus calorie goal has become a deficit for me. Lost a few pounds while holding on to, essentially, the same or slightly more muscle mass. Currently running 1g of Turk, but about to bump to 1g Turk and 500mg Ecdy
thanks for commenting! These results seam to be in line with other anecdotal reports.
@@NutritionLibrary
Anecdotal reports? You mean the reports are not based on research?
@@Leonardo-1 that's correct
Been taking ecdy for 3 weeks
4 capsules before sleeping
Drink sufficient water
30 minutes before the workout i take 1 scoop of 300mg pre workout
1 scoop of beta
1 scoop of citruline
1 scoop of creatine
I quit benching a year aggo
Doing it for 2 weeks im already on 90kg for reps
My sumo deadlift is 160 for reps
And i did 170 for 2 reps
Will try a max out after another 2/3 weeks of consistence deadlifting
Hi Zach, I hope you're doing well. I have a question about LJ100 (22% Eurypeptide content). I'm taking 200mg Monday-Friday and none on the weekends to aid in cortisol regulation. I am planning on taking a 2 week break every 4 months or so. Would you recommend I take more frequent breaks to avoid tolerance or does this cycle seem sustainable? Thanks, and have a good one!
Honestly after a few longer cycles it would probably best to take like 3-4 times a week. You don’t want to suppress estrogen signaling too much.
I’ve taken it for about 4-5 months with maybe a 2 week break and I love it I feel motivated and determined strong asf in the gym but emotionless about a lot of shit which is nice cause I don’t give a fuck about dumb shit anymore. #lowestrogen
It releases SHBG....??? Look it up friend!!! Lg100 will releases test.....
Where do you find any of these supplements? I’m actually very curious as I’ve always found just creatine and protein to be the only true bang for buck. Even if it does a fraction of what I’ve read I def would consider trying. What supplement shops or brands are trusted?
Almost 40, back when we would cut for wrestling we took Xenadrine and it helped big time with trimming fat and keeping muscle. Also any thoughts on ashwagandha?
@@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt pretty much any vitamin store. Where I am at I get it from vitamin shoppe
Ecdysteroid is not the compounds used by plant to defend, that is phytoecdysteroid. The word Ecdysteroid stands for steroid involved in ecdysis, they are made by arthropod to molt. The two term are sometimes interchangeable but they are not the same. For example, ecdysterone can be classified as both as it is found both in plants and insects. But turkesterone is not ecdy but phyoecdy as it is not found in arthropod in high amount.
Ah, I've been waiting for this one 😌
Hi Tom, I’ve been taking tongkat Ali and turkestrone for a week, how would you recommend on doing it?
great video, unique information. One question, do you think ecdy/turk would work as a pre-workout? I mean, do you feel an increase in endurance takeing it before training? (taking it only on training days)
Super interesting didn’t know nicotine blocked estrogen receptor beta and alpha. Thanks for breaking the pathways down hard to find the info out there.
Blocks alpha, not beta.
Interesting stuff, cheers.
glad you think so!
Excellent video thank you for the information. Really appreciated the simple explanation of the possible mechanism of action.
I do have questions I wonder if you could answer. Is estrogen responsible or related to changes in mood in males or is that a myth? Any idea if activation or suppression of either alpha or beta receptors via this mechanism could theoretically impact mood changes. I keep hearing that there is no negative side effects because of the lack of impact on measurable labs associated with anabolics. But to me a significant change in mental health would be a negative effect of this supplement and a lot more difficult to measure. What are your thoughts?
it is. Too high and too low are both not good and can cause aggression.
Great vid!
I’m primarily using Ecdy, rather than Turk. I load semi trailers for a living, physically taxing stuff, and I’ve noticed a higher level of muscle endurance despite how fatigued I can get during the day. Like many others have said, this improvement isn’t glaring.
Yeah I really notice that with ecdy seems like you have a long term sustained energy
Oh man perfect timing!
Good!
On point
Ey màn! Loved the video. But if I supplement ecdysterone with ashwagaunda, will that effect the ecdysterone
I've been taking ecdy & turk for about 1.5 months along with creatine and it took a while for me to see results, but I am far more energized at the gym, my lift quantities and set #'s have gone way up. I've always been a natural lifter, don't think these supplements take your natty card, but I'm going to continue taking them. It's a cost-effective option for someone looking for a good natural boost. Proper nutrition has been a good foundation but I'm 6'4 1/2" 35 y/o male and went from a thick/stocky 257 to a leaned out 208 in roughly a 15 week time span and have never felt better. For me, my takeaway has been increased energy levels which leads to increased intensity at the gym, and perhaps better muscle building.
Where u buy it?
Surprised this channel doesn’t have more subs. Rooted in science and no bullshit or alterior motive
In the first study, the "discrepency" in dosages is explained by the fact that the supplement taken was a 100mg dose of a serum "standardized for 30mg" of ecdysterone (E), however they did not perform supplement analysis so we do not know how much of actual E was in there. In the second they only claimed that the test subjects were taking capsules that the company claimed to contain 100mg of E, not that the subjects were actually receiving that amount. The 6mg number comes from the supplement analysis they performed, meaning the capsules were actually proven to contain about 6mg of E each. As to why the former study found nothing and the latter was promising, maybe the supplement in the first study contained extremely small amounts of actual E? Maybe there were key differences in the training the subject performed which had an effect on how the E functioned? Who knows.
Everyone responds differently, just like they would to actual androgenic exogenous compounds, you get your varying levels of responders.... I have been taking Turk now for 3 months. So has my friend. We buy together. He has had a way better response than me. He feels better overall, sleeps better, has seen better overall gains from training. I have only found it takes the edge off my 'soreness' from training. And I have a very slight lift in energy. I would say I feel the same as I do when I take creatine at higher doses. Going to try Tongkat next to see if I get better results.
Did you end up taking tongkat ? Hesitate to take it myself honestly
I hit 9 reps on my 5x5 bench. I know where my bench should be at, and i should not have hit 9 reps on my last set. No one can convince me that ecdysteron does not work when it comes to strength at least
funny. my knees been hurting like never before and i've been taking ecdysterone. but its a vert low dosage, i just found it funny when you mentioned the joints
1. Excellent mustache. Good work there bud. I have been taking turkesterone from the place I used to get sarms from. I was taking beta ecdy before that. I think they both work about the same. It is hard for me to really judge if they are working well or not due to a crazy work schedule where I cannot lift for 14 days at a time. But even if they just make me think I am doing better than I will continue to take them. But I do think I will stick with the ecdy due to pricing.
yeah there does seam to be some nominal effects with ecdys. Not life changing, but probably some level of benefit.
Another great video. Could you do a video on cistanche?
I will here soon!
Lol. been taking Tongkat along side turk and wondering why turk seemed to drop off a little bit. Thought I built up a tolerance for it cuz i took it for 2-3 months almost everyday. Nope i just wasted 200 bucks cuz i didn't think they'd effect each other. At least i know now! I think i'll try what you said taking tongkat one day and turk the other. Saves money too. I have a question though! Since I took tongak almost for a month straight, would that mean my body got a "break" from the effects of turk so could that be possibly considered a break from it? even though i was taking it. If so, its quite the expensive break lol
After starting this stuff I've noticed much better recovery. I do full-body weight lifting 2-3x a week and I do it before bed. I would always wake up the next day feeling so drained. When taking this stuff I feel fine the next day like I didn't spend 3hrs in the gymlifting the night before.
Same experience. Added Epismash to Ecdysterone. Could do total body workouts 14 days straight at 58 years old. Did Antagonist Supersets 3X15. Did MyoReps, 15rep activation set 5 deep breaths, cluster of 5, repeat until 5 clusters complete.
@@mrjpg256 I'm a trucker. Wish I had the time & opportunity to go to the gym that much. I go when and where I can.
Not sure about how much break time you get, but if possible have you considered a TRX. Army guys use it when traveling around. It might not be heavy weight resistance training, but some resistance is better than none. And you can roll it up in the bag it comes with. But bless you man. Truckers and those in transport and logistics, huge respect for what you guys do and how much you guys are needed. Thank you.
You take a dose before bed? I have the same routine as you bro.
Going to check my Test levels first and might decide to give it a try. Seems interesting. Heard about it before when it got big but didn't really pay mind to it, Until now.
let me know how it goes.
Very Good Explanation, and I would go to Turkesteron because of the varieties of Ecdysteroids that the plant has... like Quinoa👍🏋♂️🍀
Nailed it. Quinoa has a butt ton of ecdy
I’ve read that you have to take up to 8g of Turk in order for it to even be effective. Apparently, there’s not enough ecdysteroids in the small doses of Turk that you can find online.
This is what I read about ecdysterone being superior to Turk due:
“This brings us to the second issue with turkesterone supplements on the market -- they’re woefully underdosed.
Extrapolating a human equivalent dose from the animal studies puts the dosage around 400mg of ajuga turkestanica extract standardized to 40% ecdysteroids, with the ecdysteroid content slanted heavily in the favor of 20-hydroxyecdysone (ecdysterone) NOT turkesterone.[14]
Finally, the vast majority of Ajuga turkestanica extracts available on the market only contain ~20% ecdysteroids, meaning that you’re not getting a whole lot of turkesterone (or ecdysterone for that matter.
To put everything into perspective, using the numbers we have to date on turkesterone and ajuga turkestanica extract, if you weigh 180 lbs, you’d need to consume over EIGHT GRAMS of the extract daily!
Consider that most supplements only provide between 250-500mg of Ajuga turkestanica extract, and you start to see that you’re getting ripped off.
The good news is that there already is another option that’s readily accessible, not over-priced, and (best of all) is supported by human research -- turkesterone’s big brother...ECDYSTERONE!”
@@philmcrackinnowBro, you didn't even use it and you show me a study😂🙈 ...
I take a 200mg extract, with big differences before and after, put more into Practice and read less Bro👍🍀🏋♂️
Peace!
If it can only help retain muscle during a cut, it's an awesome supplement
I just ordered ecto today to add to my daily shilajit and Hmb,vit D and folic acid ... On top of a bulk shake. Not sure if it's muscle memory or these supplements but I'm back to doing workouts ,being almost 2 months in,and people said they noticed a difference.. so hopefully this is cherry on top.. good informative video
Currently taking Turk. 1500 mg a day… first week my appetite increased noticeably but my waist circumference shrank a whole pants size, started sleeping better, noticing my upper body is starting to get a little swole like when I was first on testosterone boosters… also developed an itch that worried me at first because I had to scratch it and the area turned super red (right under my delts) but I was wondering if this was because of a bad mix of multivitamin and the Turk… stopped the multis and now it’s not as bad but not completely going away. Also, not sure if this a by product of other benefits but I am performing around my highest mental capacity at work. No brain fog, I have more energy mentally and physically throughout the day than ever. Did a heavy workout / 4 mile walk today and still had energy after all of it, when usually I will have severe fatigue.
There's so much to know, and I'm still getting up to speed on understanding what various supplements can do. I am currently taking DIM, for the same reasons that turkesterone is beneficial. Have you studied DIM, and do you thinks it's comparable in function to turkesterone? Thanks.
Dim is very good at blocking estrogen.
I take DIM about 400-600 mg per day
Boron 9 mg a day / cycle month on month off
Tongkat Ali 300mg 4 days a week ( when I workout )
Along with D3K2 and other natural herbs / vitamins
I'm 57 , weight 165lbs / 5'6" tall workout with 225lbs on the bench ( 8 sets of 8-10reps )
Curl 80 lbs ( 5 sets of 10-12 reps)
Along with all the other stuff
This supplements have definitely helped !
I am thinking of getting them and start the use them in the pills. How would you consider taking them? I was thinking 2 in the morning, 2 in the evening and 2 before sleep. Also, do they “fall” hard on liver or kidneys and is there any side effects to them?
If you watch Derek’s most recent and last video on Turkesterone and Ecdysterone, he talks about clinical trials done on rats. More positive side effects than negative but that’s only in animals, not humans. Reason why most people have taken up turkesterone or ecdysterone is because the bloodwork is clean, no hormonal suppression, and no PCT is required. Some cycle Turk/Ecdy and others use it indefinitely. It should still be used with caution regardless.
Do you have any concerns about the cyclodextrin Derek used in his complex?
My quick Google research says it can cause hearing loss and it builds up slowly over time?
I literally cancelled both my orders from Gorilla and Intelligent from finding out about this just now! I also did the research and it showed irreversible damage just a week onset...really would love clarity on this because I was ready to go 3 bottles per in but this is a deal breaker! How can we counteract these irreversible damages?
If Im not mistaken you mention in this particular video you feel its ok to combine Tongkat Ali and Turkesterone, but I also ran across another of your video shorts "clarifying" you did NOT feel it to be a good idea to mix these two as they could possible cancel each other out. Any clarification and additional info here would be nice. Thanks for the solid content.
You take them together just not on the same day. Every other day perhaps.
@@NutritionLibrary I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. I tend to have a bit lower Free Test and Higher SHBG due to having been pretty heavy Keto for a while now, and I think the Tongkat Ali might help with the SHBG,,, Have you stumbled on proper daily dosage in MG for Turkesterone. It seems to be all over the place but no one seems to be following the 1 pill a day recommendations listed on the bottle.
Your talking about the alpha and beta estrogen receptors was also inaccurate, The activation of beta does not guarantee the antagonist or suppression of alpha. Some hormones slelectively activate one of them, some activate both, and some not only activate one while suppress the other one. The antagonist and agonist action do not depend on the nature of the subtype of receptor but the characteristic of the hormones that are used
We need a Derek reaction with cursing. Good vid
😂😂😂
I’ve taken both Ecdysterone and Turkesterone alone and together. To me they are like a low dose of something like primobolan. I’m 50 and have been working out since 16 this stuff is the real deal. I found Turk better for bulking and Ecdy better for cutting and endurance. Together they rock! Great stuff as long as you work your ass off in the gym and your diet is on point. If you are going to be one of these guys that spends his whole workout texting it’s a waste of money. Buy yourself a cup of coffee at Starbucks and take advantage of their free WI-FI.
I'm 41 what will happen if you perminately stop taking Ecdysterone +Turkestone
@@issasafar1107 the only side effect I really noticed is I developed a histamine sensitivity for a whole. I would get a rash if I ate foods high in histamines. That did go away. You pretty much keep your gains. It doesn’t affect your own body’s testosterone. I feel like I’m more vascular and my endurance is better when I am on it.
They aren’t steroids and they don’t interact with your androgen receptors, let alone work Iike primobolan. They won’t do anything at all unless you’re a plant, other than making your wallet lighter. Absolutely agree you’re better off buying a cup of coffee. That’d be a much better PED for your money 😂
Any experiences about tolerance levels to ecdysteroids? I mean is it worth cykling because the body adapts to it like to caffeine or is it more likely like taking creatine?
Yes on creatine. Our brain also benefits from creatine consumption
God bless i have needed this
I’ve been stacking Ecdysteroids with Tongkat Ali for 8 days at just 3 capsules per day and I’m 58. Have not noticed increased muscle growth yet but workouts have been more intense, my stamina is greater, and my libido and mood are almost too intense. The downside is that I wake up in the middle of the night and have a lot of trouble getting back to sleep. I also am having trouble focusing while working.
Reduce your dose or eliminate one. BTW ginseng is way better than either of those. And ashwagandha
I am 60 been training with weights since I was 15 yrs old. sold steroids took steroids also took SARMS. Took Tongat Ali sleep deep for 4 hrs later wide wake my co-ck would be so hard it hurt
Now Dean is eager to blast off all the time
it’s the Tongkat
Tonkat Ali increases your estrogen levels, therefore it doesn't mix well with Ecdysteroids. Although, you can take them on separate days.
Does the community know much about dosage or timing for any ecdysterone? From what I've seen Derek hasn't mentioned anything about that
I've been taking ecdy and turk, one capsule each, six times a day; 12 total capsules spread throughout the day for the last 14 weeks. I've been PR'ing every workout for the last 6 or 7 weeks. Everything is on point so far as training, nutrition, supplementation and sleep and the gains have been amazing.
Yeah it definitely has an effect.
Hey brotha, huge fan of your channel. Do you have any recs for other Turk brands?
Honestly there’s not much third party testing going on currently so it is hard to say. Gorilla mind seams good. And I’ve used some double wood product before that seam to be good. Plus double wood uses a very high dosage. There is also a ton of ecdy in quinoa.
@@NutritionLibrary thank you 🙏🏻
I’ve been scared about wanting to give ecdysteroids a try, because I was afraid it would shut down my natural testosterone production, but now I think I might actually give it a try after watching this video.
They aren’t suppressive at all
Watch the video of more plates more dates or vigorous steve vid, they say everything
They don't touch the same pathways as standard steroids/sarms
They won’t shut you down. This stuff def works
@@toddgoogle4387 Have you taken Ecdy? I have Tongat, Ecdy, Turk and a Myostatin inhibitor that I will be doing 3 month trials on in the new year
Since Ecdysterone binds to the estrogen receptor Beta, would it be possible for some kind of negative feedback loop where E2 would actually decrease or estrogenic activity would be reduced? I suffer from low E2 and would like to know if Ecdysterone would do more harm than good. Thanks!
I used Ecdysteroid in combination with Tongkat Ali and didn't really feel any effect. Thanks to you I learned that this combination probably wasn't a good idea.
Yeah. Just make sure to spread out your intake.
@@NutritionLibrary how tho? You gotta take Ecdys throughout the day every day. When to take Tongkat then? I may just stop taking Tongkat all together if it's going to negate the Ecdy
Hey Lümmelmann, how is your cycle going?
Hey Lümmelmann, wie ist dein Fahrrad gehen?
I just started Derek's turk a few days ago. I actually did notice a subtle overall boost to a feeling of wellness by the second day, and I'm only taking 1 pill per day. I might add a second pill occasionally on some workout days, we'll see. Looking forward to these results!
@@TimTheMusicMan gorilla mind or huge supplement
Take 4 a day BE A MAN 💪🏻
Placebo
Yea if you’re only taking one pills it’s literally just a placebo
Thanks good work
thanks! glad you enjoyed it!
Got 3 bottles of Turk yesterday and started today… hoping to see some extra gains soon
Keep me posted
@Hitchcock Mason if you sign up for more plates more dates news letter I also gave my phone number I got a texts that tell you when products are restocked.. I got a tex about there latest Turk drop and jumped on it and got a few bottles… it was some time last week
@@NutritionLibrary You were saying how ton cat Ali May interfere with absorption do you think marijuana may do the same thing because it is known to mimic estrogen?
What I'm not quite sure of, is what it means it's a estrogen receptor beta agonist. I do have good total test, but low'ish free test and low estrogen. And I do feel symptoms of low estrogen. Then is it good or bad?
I do have high SHBG, and will probably get meds for that, I do have a doctors appointment in a couple of weeks. I need higher free test and estrogen, with estrogen being particularly low.
Been on ecdys since the info started making the rounds. They work. Definitely
Absolutely no doubt. Ecdy and Turk stack gives a crazy pump
Any side effects or do you have to do a pct after?
@@Brolosolo80 not as far as research suggests. No interaction with HPTA
Where do I get them?
I got mine off Amazon, it’s wood something that makes it.
If I start using turkesterone everyday and stop after about 2 months will my progress go down, or kind of reverse? Kind of Like how creatine gives you the fuller look after you're fully saturated, but once you stop taking it you shrink down?
Hi I’m thinking about using ashwagandha and tongkat Ali for increased testosterone, I have a couple questions. I would like to do a kind of micro -cycle where I don’t take for more than 3-5 days at a time with same time off, what would be the best cycle with these two herbs? (Eg take them together or one off one on). also does taking these herbs influence testosterone reproduction when coming off them? By the way I’m working out 7 days a week. Thanks hope you can help me
I would exercise intermitently here and there and never been a imtermediate or advanced lifter. I had a very good experience with Ecdysterone , my pull ups went up, i lost fat and put a tiny bit of muscle. never i felt this good. i would every now and then train for 3 to 4 months but get discouraged cuz couldn't see or feel gains. With Beta Ecdy i was so so happy.
not a huge difefrence in physique but there was some. Strength went up no question about that. Just my exp.
Which one did you take
@@LuptonianPrince Pure Beta Ecdysterone (60 x 300mg)
Just got some tongkat ali and turkesterone on the way. Will try the combo and let you guys know.
Hey man great video! But what doses should i use at 5,9 weighing 156 lbs
depends on ALOT of factors. Check out the free supplement guides I have on my website. www.nutrilibray.com/store this is a good starting point.
Any data on adverse affects to kidney function? Thanks for the info.
Ive been looking into different supplement options for my routine. Ive been training martial arts for 20 years (primarily grappling and boxing modern day) and I have been searching for something to assist in recovery and potentially make more strength and endurance gains. Ive also recently started focusing more on a full body lifting routine 3-4x a week. - I have injuries galore from years of martial arts but also have never taken any supplements besides multi vitamins and creatine when I was a teen (31 now).
Creatine and protein powder. You can add a multi, fish oil, and ZMA if you’ve got cash to burn, otherwise, just invest in more food
Personally i am more intrested to know if turkesterone can in the long run do some harm. Hope there will be more research about it soon.
I started creating and turkestrone at the same time as a natural lifter who has 4 years hard work in gym never did creatine because I only have one kidney but I am doing it with Turk for my first cycle the main things I noticed is muscle spasms they don’t hurt but feel weird also have become significantly stronger can’t tel if it’s Turk or creatine went from 305 bench at 170 to 320 get this in 2.5 weeks also helped my shoulders and weirdly enough didn’t help any muscle growth other than muscle I didn’t really have much of such as my delts until about now I am 6 weeks in and I feel really good stronger than ever but I’m only 20 lol so hopefully I can’t go harder than last time just my info hope it helps also I used staring off 12 grams of creatine a day for 2 weeks and then 7 grams then 4 turkestrone a day for 2 weeks one as soon as I get up before anything then right when I get off work about to go to the gym and then after 2 weeks did 6 a day 2 morning middle of my shift at work then right before the gym that is the best way space it through the day sorry I also used dereks from more plates more dates
Can anybody tell me are these safe?? And have no side effects??
between TURKESTERONE and ECDYSTERONE, which one would u recommend/ have a better result
turk
Yeah. Turk is slightly better. But play around with them and see what works for you. The science isn’t settled yet so experiment, and have fun in the process.
Ordered turkesterone and already seeing results
You explaining about Beta-Ecdysterone but why 'turkistorone' thumbnail wallpaper? Both are same? Which one should we take?
Just started taking beta-ecdysterone, am I right to think it’s a bit like creatine where the body gets saturated over time, or is it important that I take it straight after a workout rather than any time of the day
I am still on my first week of taking Turkesterone. Each capsule is 250mg, it says to take two per day.
I take two after a meal, is this the best way to take them for the best results? Cheers.
Yeah because it is possible for them to be stimulating to some. I would split the dose over breakfast and lunch.
I would suggest breakfast and dinner, or evenly spaced 2Xday.
I took ecdy for a month with no real results. Then after a solid month of taking it the stuff started to work like a charm. Just off kettlebell workouts alone, almost every day, i gained visual results in a month. Results that took 5 months with strength training.
awesome
Would this group of supplements benifit someone on TRT ?
Or does it become useless.
I recently made a few videos on turkesterone (and the current controversy - if you want to call it that) ... bottom line is the stuff works. How much for you? Don't know but I've been able to measure the results and I have had HUGE ones that I haven't reported yet. Now, Derek's and Greg's turned out to be heavily other ecdysteroids but they DID work ... and were equivalent. I use a 95% pure turk and I'm really gaining. I'll keep covering it as often as I get free time.
Expecting 3 bottles today or tomorrow! I would like to try this along with 2 bottles of the beta ecdysterone HPBCD from Intelligent Elephant a month for a minimum of 12 months as I feel that they take awhile to make a difference in recomp results. I do feel a good mood boost on these initially, but I am a little bit older (42) , so maybe that is a reason
The mood boost comes from the ER activation. Estrogen is actually good mood booster in proper amounts.
@@NutritionLibrary what is ER activation? Is estrogen or test increased at all?
@@larrytate1657 estrogen receptors
I take them and they do work. No I’m not jay cutler but I can tell my strength and recovery is much better!
well let me know when you're inner Jay comes out.
I take 5 500 caps for a total of 2500 an hour before I work out every day for the passed month didn’t change my diet. I’ve gone from 174 to 180 for a total of 8lbs and I’ve actually gotten more lean. But on top of that I take GM AR AND 500 cap of DHEA and a liver support. So the stuff for sure works like a dream I could also be a hyper responder to turk.
Sorry six pounds of lean muscle
Pretty sure your just blasting it
Earned my sub
Good! glad you enjoyed it!
Issit possible to take more than 2 pills a day for turk or ect??