eBay Pre 1980s TOY Repair Challenge PART 2
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- čas přidán 7. 02. 2019
- Hi, here is the 2nd Part of the new eBay repair challenge between me and Steve from TronicsFix (UK vs USA). Steve (USA) is a professional fixer of modern games consoles and I (UK) like to tinker and try and fix anything. Steve won the last challenge in 2018. This time we are attempting to repair broken toys that were first introduced before 1980, so we both have the same chance of winning :-)
We can buy and sell up to 5 items and they have to be bought and sold on eBay. We will start with £150 ($200) but we can let the profits roll onto the next item. The winner will be the one with the most percentage profit made over the 5 items. NOT the most amount of money made but the biggest percentage increase. I think in this 2nd challenge series 'Team UK' stands a very good chance of success (finger crossed).
Many thanks, Vince.
Here's the link for Steve's 1st video: • eBay Repair Challenge ...
Here's the link for Steve's 2nd video: • eBay Repair Challenge ...
Here is a link to Steve's channel (TronicsFix):
/ @tronicsfix
Here is link to my 1st video in this challenge: • eBay Pre 1980s TOY Rep...
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. - Jak na to + styl
Wow, nice fix! I'm going to be in trouble with you pulling off that kind of profit! Really cool item.
Thanks Steve, I was very lucky with this one, and it is a great toy. Get this.....Annoyingly CZcams have demonetised it, I appealed for a manual review and within 2 minutes (I presume without even watching any part of the video) they upheld the 'not suitable for all advertisers' I can only think it is because it shows me fixing a gun!!!! (even though the toy is for Ages 9 and up). Madness :-)
Your 2nd item was great by the way, really good video :-)
That sucks. I actually considered buying some type of gun toy but decided not to for that very reason...that being said I didn't know how strict they actually were. I can't believe they would demonetize it just because it shows a gun...it doesn't even shoot! That's a good thing to know but really sucks.
I have spoke to them and they have said they will pass it to the internal review team. It didn't even enter my head because it is a game. It would be the same with using an old light gun on the NES. I think the robot/automated system must have picked up on the words or the images. I don't believe it was actually reviewed by a human. I don't see how they have time unless a complaint is made so hopefully when a human watches it they will realise I am not promoting the fixing of old guns (not yet anyway...but maybe that could be our 3rd challenge lol)
CZcams is ridiculous when it comes to anything firearms related. I had several videos talking about basic rifle marksmanship and how to improve the fundamentals of marksmanship that I had to make private a few years back because CZcams went crazy about what types of firearms videos you're allowed to post. I think the only firearms related video on my channel now is me shooting 8oz Bud Lights that somebody had left at my house from 600 meters (656 yards) out with a Remington 700 chambered in 7.62 NATO. For some reason, CZcams didn't have a problem with that one.
Hey Vince, enjoying series 2 of this. UK ftw again. Just thought I'd share this. I've been in a dead end job as a driver for a good while. I enjoy fixing everything and anything and watching your videos for ideas and tips. I'm starting a new job on Monday at a local furniture store which sells a bit of everything. I will be fixing returns from big superstores and putting them up for sale, things such as washing machines, tumble dryers, dishwashers, small electronics etc. People on low income can apply for a grant and get anything broken replaced, delivered and fitted for free and profit from the store goes to a mental health charity. So I thank you for being part of my leap of faith to better my life and those around me. You are an inspiration. Just thought I'd share. 👍👍
Vince buys a gun.
2019 looking incredible so far
I'd say the component is an SCR which latches on when using DC, with the gate controlled by the CDS cell and a voltage divider. The SCR will reset when you remove the power ( the brass thing hits the notch in the track ). SCR's are usually used in light dimmers on AC and reset every half cycle.
"Not Tested" = "I tried it and it did not work but you will be more likely to buy it if I don't admit that" (Frequently said on eBay listings of old electronics where the magic smoke came out.)
Yeah, unfortunately not tested really means fully tested and not working 80% of the time :-)
@@Mymatevince Or it could just be a seller who has got fed up with stating items work after fully testing it to have a scammy buyer claim 'item not as described' for a full refund who demands £25 to return it overnight signed for delivery so they can keep it for free as they send a brick back. With the full 100% money back guarantee as a buyer you do get the privileges with eBay purchases to enjoy a 'try before you buy' and 'on approval' 'sale or return at the sellers cost' purchase with unlimited free credit, the lack of integrity is most definitely on the buying side mate. 'Not tested' means its not brand new and sealed and once out of my custody I'm at the buyers mercy so I need to limit opportunities for theft as buyers false claims will shut down my ebay business.
its really nice to see how this kind of electronic devices were done in old times. Pure analog electronics and really really basic, but the result is not so basic. I like :)
I like the old stuff too.
Was made so well compared to what we have today 😞
Excellent fun! I remember these being around as a kid, yes, they were really expensive.
Love the noise the cans make when they bounce on the floor, brings back memories of kicking coke cans all the way home from school.
Fantastic fix! Really enjoying this new series.
The light sensor on the fence is a LDR(Light Dependant Resistor). A LDR is a resistor that varies its resistance when a light is shone on it. The only other 2 legged device that it could be which I doubt it is would be a photo diode. A photo diode is a diode that produces a small electrical current when a light is shone on it. A power source such as batteries are used to provide a larger electric current. This would mean in this case the batteries weren't quite enough to power the motor and the batteries and the photo diode are needed to drive it. This doesn't seem feasible since when light stopped shining there wouldn't be enough power again to drive the motor. Plus the fact that photo diodes are small and the size of the hole in the plastic for the sensor is LDR sized.
As always, brilliant information. I hope you know it is always appreciated :-)
And since the photo resistor from my understanding is just a switch that is turned on with light you should be able to attach your meter to continuity check both sides and shine a flashlight It should close when light goes in. Probally why it would work when you turned it to an angle it was picking up your lights
@@johndorian4078 No a Photo resistor varies it's resistance with the amount of light. So for the purposes of the toy it works like a switch because there is either light or no light but for a gradual increase or decrease in light the resistance raises or lowers accordingly.
I'm glad you got that one Vince. If you'd not sold it already I could have provided you with a scan of the original instructions from a 1976 original which are printed in magenta. There is a sight missing, it is usually contained in a bag with the instructions, the bolt, and the sheet of labels. But it's great and I knew you'd make a profit with it.
Thanks for the info :-)
Can you remember if the sight is like a barrel that you look though or is it just a tiny little cross or something? I can't seem to find much information about these online at all :-)
I found a single ebay listing that shows a side profile with the sight visible, I believe it is supposed to be a flat piece of metal with two tabs that stick up to for a sort of V spread apart that you line up the front vertical sight between. There was another auction with the instructions barely visible which mentioned you would aim the sights at the top nail head on the far right of the fence, and when you fired the gun the light should have been vertically aligned between the top nail and bottom nail. If the light was not aligned then you would turn the screw on the rear sight, which basically was just to get you to aim the rifle a little left or right until you were actually aiming it straight. Here was the auction with the sight visible: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1970s-Chuck-Connors-Tin-Can-Alley-By-IDEAL-No-Instructions-Untested-/232840889075?nma=true&si=QadtyrT2VEv%252BzW4dszGMgEL2o8E%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
@@Mymatevince it's a small piece of plastic that slides over the small post at the rear of the rifle. I can take some pics of mine and send them to you if you'd like.
Oldman_PJ- Thanks for the link and how to calibrate it. I fully understand it now :-)
This looks so fun, what a good father.
I’m amazed how enjoyable this video is! Well done Ben 🥇
Lovely fix. Very nice toy. Also, I don't mind the length of the video, in fact, I prefer lengthy, in depth videos, over short quick ones with all the actual troubleshooting bits cut out of it. It's the troubleshooting bits which I find interesting.
Another great video Vince! That's a great toy! I don't remember it when I was little and I was born in 73. It would have been right up my alley!
I always wanted one of these as a kid, but alas never had one. Wow fantastic profit there, Vince, rooting for you to win!
Sold for £125 not a bad profit from that one
Excellent video =D Really enjoyed that! This was another one of those toys I wanted as a kid but they were expensive as you say!
Thanks Chris, excellent, glad you liked it. I really enjoyed this one as well :-)
I figured the date stamp on the actual toy would have been earlier than that on the box. I would have had a lot of fun with this if I had it as a kid. Another great fix!
Brilliant. Enjoyed that, good memories. Well done!
Oh my god. I distinctly remember circling this thing in the old "Sears Christmas Catalog" back when I was 6 years old. I remember wanting this toy when I was a kid! I had completely forgotten about this toy until I saw it in this video and seeing it here just jarred my memory of circling it in the catalog! My parents never bought it for me because it was expensive at the time.
Tin can alley! What a classic. This was on my list to Santa every year as a kid. Had to make do with cheaper knock offs though.
Really enjoy these shootouts between yourself and Steve. It's just nice to see something different here on CZcams. Great job guys. Goodluck to you both!
i spat my coffee out when you guessed what they were when new lol, i remembered the being £19.99 in 1980ish :) £29.00 was defo top retail price :) what a great vid vince :)
I wanted this so much when i was a kid. never got one ever all those adverts made it look so cool.
Waw I remember those things.
Brilliant job Vince.
Enjoyed the video.
Really enjoyed this one Vince! Cheers!
Fantastic video and great toy to fix for the competition. I've been watching your videos for a while and this is my favourite one yet. Keep up the great work!
Excellent, thank you :-)
Great fix and a awesome toy. I'm really enjoying this challenge
Really smart design. The reloading charge the capacitor and the trigger stop charging and release the electricity to the lamp.
Cool desig for the late 70th early 80th
Great fix, going for £150 dec 2019 on eBay. Always wanted one as a kid, I was born ‘75. I remember them being expensive, was told I couldn’t have one!
Finally a video again. I was missing it. Great video and great fix again.
Thanks :-)
Another great video and fix Vince and nice bit of profit as well I reckon this series will be a lot closer than the last one
TronicsFix's speak and spell was made pass 1982. So you are equal now!
I didn't know that
Very cool item for the competition. Was interesting to see how it all worked.
This looks every bit as fun as the game I didn't get when I was ten :D
What a great toy this is, they made such good things with so little back in those days. Well deserved profit my mate.
Thank you mate :-)
I never had one either Vince,and it (and you lol) are a year older than me.I always wanted one but I think because it involved a gun (even a toy one )and my parents were traditional and preferred me not to have guns of any kind.I eventually rebelled and bought myself a pellet gun when I was about 14 lol
nice fix. id have loved this as a kid
I'm wholly enjoying this challenge, even though I have next to none electronics knowledge and experience, Steve and You are making this challenge really, really enjoyable.
Besides, you should have a snack plate next to you when you work that 44:30 growl caught me completely off guard.
1h20min - ok, I'm going for some food first :D
I’ve been waiting on pins and needles for this second video to come out! Great work once again on a fantastic video. I enjoy seeing the father and son bonding that these repairs are bringing together... this video in particular made me think about me and my old man sitting on the porch shooting at tin cans together. Can’t wait to see what you pull out next, speaking of which, do you have a planned release schedule for this series?
Thanks, that is nice to hear :-) Yes, every Friday me and Steve will be putting out the videos. So 3 more fixing vids (5 fixes/fails in total) and then probably a quick 6th video to see who won :-)
Loved the video reminded me as a kid I had that game when I was a child
Loving the speedup music you chose for this one.
Thanks :-)
Awesome video as always
that was lovely Nice toy and nice fix
Can't believe you work on top of (toy even resting on!) your nice multi-meter.....nice fix.
Hi matey, just found your channel & subscribed, interesting vid. When I was a kid, I always liked to take my toys apart to see how they worked, especially battery operated ones.
That one is a great example of early electro mechanical operation & made in England too!
Another interesting fix, well enjoyed that, and what a very nice profit too.👍
Thank you :-)
Excellent fix
That’s awesome so glad it works. I hope you make a good profit on this one.👍
Bloody brilliant video.
Awesome fix never realised these were worth as much my dad had one of these not sure if it is still around, really hoping it has not been thrown away when my nan died now.
Capacitors can source more current than the pp9 battery - results in a brighter flash from the bulb which would (when you hit the sensor in the fence) give the shooter a better chance of the game detecting hits in a brighter environment. Although not a close analogy, a camera flash does a similar thing on a bigger scale - it charges a fairly beefy capacitor up to 300-600 volts from a 6V battery, and then dumps all that energy into the flash tube with the assistance of the trigger transformer to produce a really bright flash.
The fence circuit works as follows. When the brass piece behind the can striker is in contact with the rivet, it short circuits the SCR (the transistor looking thing). This performs two jobs: 1. To reset the SCR, and 2. to move the mechanism into position for the first position when the game is started, and subsequent positions after each successful shot. When the light hits the photo sensor (probably an LDR or Phototransistor) it triggers the SCR's gate. When this happens, the motor runs long enough for the mechanism to move far enough to strike off the can at that position, and to cause the brass bypass circuit to re-engage, short circuiting the SCR again, and running the motor until the mechanism is in position for the next target. The resistor is there to limit the current to the SCR's gate, and the diode protect the SCR from the back emf from the motors windings.
Oh and PS, I WANT A GO! big kid at heart, and if I cant hit the darn sensor I'll just get my hand held laser out, but it might destroy the plastic, and that toy is so neat I think the laser would stay in my bag!! ;)
PPS, you chose an awesome name for your Son, Ben - thats my name as well. He's definitely the rifleman, he knocked those cans down like a true marksman.
I always wanted a Tin Can Alley. Nice one. Good Profit.
I saw a 1:20 video and thought...no way I'm watching the whole thing. Yet, I did! I don't remember this toy, as a child and I am a few years older than you! Maybe my priorities/interests were different at that time. Great video that takes me back to my youth!! Can't wait for round three of your challenge. (Actually I won't have to, since it is already out!)
Haha, thanks Mike :-)
These series are the best!! I hope to see more competitions like these in the future.
Brilliant, I remember that game from my youth, cheers :-)
I totally forgot about having one of these.
As one of your most enthusiastic American viewers, I simply demand that you work in the word knackered more. :D Thanks for the content!
Haha, I will try :-)
Been a subscriber for about 4 months and I love your videos. Very entertaining. Did I hear your stomach growling at 44:30?... LOL
Haha, yes you did, I replied to a similar comment 10 mins ago. I amazed you managed to pay such good attention 44 mins in. I'm very impressed :-)
Awesome As always
Thank you :-)
excellent video ... nice fix
Great job mate..I was able to fix my ps4 HDMI port because of your videos..took me over 4 hours but the satisfaction of success is priceless lol...may I ask bro what's your educational background?..thanks again and wishing you the best always
Thank you and well done on fixing the PS4 :-) I went to college and Uni but unfortunately I didn't work very hard or attend very often and it wasn't in engineering/electronics as you can probably tell:-) Looking back I wish I had worked hard and I may have achieved something but being young and foolish I always found something else to do rather than study (I had a great time though). I was a telecoms engineer for many years, and in my early twenties I restored a classic MGB GT which needed sills welding and various panels and mechanical stuff as it was rotting in a back garden for 10 years. Before I could drive I had replaced a valve on the engine of my 1st Mini car so I have always been willing to give things a go. I have always taken things apart from a very young age to 'see how they work' so these videos allow me to do what I have always loved doing even if I may not be the best at it :-)
i have one and at this moment of time i have no intention of selling it due to the sheer enjoyment of 1) owning one but also 2) they are fun toys of that era. I will look at the box for the year to confirm your suspisions about the license having to be continously renewed but yes it is pre 1980's so count towards the competion.
A 1978s Counter Strike Fixed by this cool guy.
Great video Vince, so wanted a tin can alley when I was a kid, Your USA counterpart has got a silly clock that is worth about a fiver, uk gonna win this one
Thanks, it is a great toy even all these years later. Steve's Part 2 vid was a fantastic video though, he might not make much profit on it but what a great fix on that motor :-) I don't want to give away Part 3 but if you think Steve's clock was silly then......wait until you see what I have next :-)
You start with Tin Can Ally, next is the BB gun. Then move up to the .22. Next the Police force with a M-4. lol
You could use super glue and baking soda to build up the track and file back into shape.
Great video!
I had one of these I was 6yrs old! my god I feel old lol, I still have it in my moms loft, boxed perfect working condition
I've just brought a tin can alley and come across your brilliant video. The bulb only lights up very slightly and only when I play around with the trigger but not actually pulling it. It has a brand new battery fitted , could the bulb need replacing if it's not flashing brightly? It says pr6 is that correct? I'm just a bit stuck as I've taking all apart now. The trigger mechanism works fine, well it did 😆😬
I love your enthusiasm vince but when you’re buying off eBay it’s worth searching ‘sold items’ a quick search showed that this toy normally sells for around £30-40 with a few rare exceptions that look mint which means you could struggle like the last item.... hopefully your subscribers will pitch in and boost the sale price! 😅 keep up the good work! 👍🏻
Haha just got to the end and you made a huge profit! 😅 awesome! You deserve to win due to your variety of items over the two challenges! 💪🏻
Steve's Speak and Spell was made at the earliest in 1981. If the expansion cart came with it originally, it was from 1984. So it should even out in the end.
Just FYI "N/R" or "NR" is shorthand for "No reserve", i.e. the winning bid gets it regardless of price. Great video!
Nice repair.. very interesting game
Wow £125 great profit :-)
A pretty cool toy, even for today.
This fix was so very entertaining to watch. I would have loved to test and see if a laser pointer triggers the light sensor. If it did, just think of how long of a range you could have with that toy for a competition game by modding the rifle to fire a laser.
Yeah, it could be like 100m away with a magnified sight on the rifle. You might just a have invented a new game....
There’s nothing better than a nice soothing english accent
the capacitor charges up . when you pull the slide back charges the capacitor in less then a second. when you release it it activates the second contact in front and releases the charge.
I'd find it hard to sell all this cool stuff, especially when having so much fun playing with it once its working!
I just saw something on the cans. They were made in my town I grew up in, in NY.
I've been looking forward to this :)
Lol what a blast from past I had one tin can ally
You can get rid of the rust on those screws by dropping them in a cup of vinegar for a while. Vinegar is also the best thing for cleaning up after leaky batteries (the acid neutralizes the battery chemicals).
the "transistor /voltage regulator" is actually a silicon controlled rectifier - the light switches it on - and it stays on until the current is broken then it turns off again {possibly a c106d ?}
I'm pausing to write this at 26:40 when you ask the question so apologies if you go on to work it out in the following seconds...but, when you cock the rifle you are closing one part of the circuit which charges the cap, when you fire you close the other circuit dumping the cap to the bulb ;)
Hi Vince. In that situation where you had to snap the barrel band over the fore-grip, you might consider dunking the plastic (the band in this case), into some hot tea water for just a moment. The plastic will become more yielding and less likely to snap under stress. I'm not criticizing, just offering some advice. I cringed when you snapped that band back on but it worked out fine. Interesting video as always.
OK, thanks for the advice, I hadn't heard of this technique before so always happy to here new ideas :-)
I'm glad you took that the right way. Yep, it only takes a second or less. You can always dunk twice, I would suppose too long might warp a part. Also toy folk will dunk bent items, then unbend them while it's warm, and when the plastic cools it keeps the new straightened shape. That's another way this technique can be used. Might come in handy one day? Good luck in the challenge.
I had the original one of these - that one does not come apart in the same way at all. the rifle never had a 9v battery it was aa cells in the bulb/lense module.
Nice item.
N/R = No Reserve
great vids as usual
Hi vince i was ten when i got mine never gets old something so simple brings hours of fun whats next operation
I can imagine as a 10 year old it would have been a great toy back then, my son loved it now in 2019. Boys will always love guns and aiming :-)
I was 16 and using the real thing by then. I had a Ruger 10/22 and went hunting every day I could after school during hunting season. Now everything is Nerf or air soft. We had BB Guns too. I do remember seeing those. 1983 and 1976 are two different times with a LONG stretch. I think you got rooked. lol. The thing is, they made many toys for longer runs. Eather way, its still an older toy. Those might have had the pull tabs rather than the pop tabs type cans. I heard that was a pretty popular toy back in the day.
oh boy, pre 90's copper spring circuits, these things never work when you get them and then its almost impossible to restore them without messing up the switch calibration which is a pain all by itself, annoying to work on but quite reliable once you get the quirks worked out
You gotta work on your fundamentals of marksmanship, Vince. 😉 But Ben looks like he may have some natural skill. You might want to sign up at a local gun club since you're in the UK and let him try some real rifles and see if he has an interest in it. Also, there should definitely be a rear sight on it. It should look like either a V or a U (at least on a real rifle it would) and you would line up the front sight post in the center of the V/U in order to properly line up your shot. If y'all ever make it out to Texas send me a DM and I'll take y'all shooting.
Thank you, I wasn't sure what the back sight should look like but that makes sense. I think if the back sight was in place then my marksmanship would be on a whole different level. You see for me it is all about the back sight :-) Only joking, it would still be as bad but I was well impressed with Ben!!! I just wished he showed that much enthusiasm to his homework :-)
@@Mymatevince, yeah, it's hard to get them excited about textbooks at that age, lol.
I was just thinking, that so you wouldn't have to take the bolt out every time you attach the stock, wouldn't it just slot into the notch, and where the hole is, is for a collar? Then the stock would be in the correct position and you would have to put it on upside down to fit. just a thought.
Id buy the other faulty one as well just to make some side money as the components are simple enough
Wooot St Albans that's the next town to me and not far from Watford I live in Hatfield
i am glad i am not the only one who`s dad has a shed full of nuts and bolts !
You can never have too many nuts & bolts in the shed!
Never throw away fasteners
Are you mad!! 😂👍
Whenever I strip something down that's beyond repair, I always keep all the fasteners & any other bits that might be useful!
@@NOWThatsRichy
Your Mrs hates you to then 😂
Love seeing the stuff taken a part, but might want to try to keep the videos under an hour
Wow would that be Fife Scotland good job
CZcams is not the same without your content 😁 I would love too meet you one day and grab a cup of coffee ☺