Volvo XC90 T8 Vs Lexus RX L Hybrid SUV Road Test w/ Tiff Needell
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2019
- With SUVs and electrified vehicles continuing to grow in popularity, we try out a couple of cars that are both! The Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine and the Lexus RX L Hybrid. Both SUVs cost around £60,000 and have 7 seats, but they each offer something very different. Paul Woodman and Tiff Needell get to grips with the cars on a simulated school run (with the help of a couple of our crew) before heading out to see what they're like on the open road.
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Volvo or Lexus?
Volvo without any doubt.
Lexus looks far better & will be far more reliable but it's infotainment and CVT gearbox let it down.
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@@bbb12345 absolutely but we have to bear in mind the cost. For 20K premium, can own a decent second run about 😁
Volvo. Love the video guys. What a great work! Still laughing... that lexus tailgate! Greetings from Brazil and keep the good work!
I love the fact that Lovecars ACTUALLY READS the comments!!!
I remember the XC90 Hybrid sold in a special Excellence edition. Had special seats at the back & extra sound proof glass to separate the boot area. Ultimate sleeper luxury car
The quality was superb
Pradd Zzz
I have a Excellence. Makes a Lexus look kind of out of luxury. Only 250 build wold wide!
Klaus Nielsen nice
Love the volvo line-up these days. Beautiful cars.
Laurent Wemel difficult to argue with that. There interiors are impressive
Just wish they were better to drive and they figured out their sensus infotainment system. It's abysmal. Also think their digital instrument cluster is the worst in the business.
@@fields1 I actually quite liked the infotainment on my 2019 xc90 inscription
@@fields1 nah Volvo has 2 different instrument clusters. An 8 and a 12in. The 8 sucks but I have the 12in on my 18 s90 and its impressive. Its all digital. The infotainment could be better for sure but its a really nice display
Burrelinho it’s not good if you’re used to a VW/Audi or Tesla. There are menus upon menus, swipes this way and swipes that way to get to things, everything is buried in a submenu. My aunt has a ‘19 XC60 T6 Inscription AWD and she hates it, and the 5 or so times I’ve driven it I’ve been anything but impressed. Additionally, their digital gauge cluster is awful. It’s not clear, the menus and fonts are extremely weird and the buttons on the steering wheel are puzzling as they’re unlabeled symbols.
Two of the best personalities in the industry. Tiff is the godfather of automotive journalism and there's excellent chemistry with Paul... keep up the great work guys, and I'll be sure to keep watching!!
Cheers George the boys will appreciate those comments 👍
Both great looking SUVs and great review and video and keep up the great content
Thank you
Great video guys!
Thank you William. Much appreciated
Tiff!!! I bought SAAB 900 in Tokyo about 20 years ago after watching you in Top Gear, thanks.
FANTASTIC! Tiff reads these comments so will have a rise smile for sure (Hope the SAAB is doing ok 20 years on!)
0:50 by the way, it’s the first Lexus with seven seats IN THE UK, since the US got the GX (Toyota
Prado based) and the LX (based on the Land Cruiser).
Much better audio! Content is always top notch!
Gregg Cesaroni thanks Greg 👍
3:51 The wheels are rotating at the perfect speed.
Ex.Volvo owner, love my Lexus now. Sick of keep on sending my car back to fix. It s a dream once changed to my RX, enjoy the smooth driving and quiet. Volvo, never..never. Thanks.
That or you’re just a cheap bastard trying to eat more than you can afford. #ItsARebadgedToyota
Lexus for sure no Volvo
Did you have one of the first generation T6 Volvos?
no, I has a v40 before, don't know T6. how's T6?
@@paulho23ph Oh. The T6 engines had serious problems in the early 2000s. Also, your V40 was not really a Volvo, it was a global Ford/Mazda. Volvo was forced to make it under Ford's ownership.
I'm loving their chemistry more and more. And, man. I love Tiff. He's like the favourite fun uncle I never had. Or I will never be!
Tiff is the absolute best. Class act. Love jumping the Lexus!
Nice closing shot of a flying Lexus RX, never thought I'd see that. But with Tiff at the wheel, anything is possible. He could probably make a lorry fly over a crest without trying.
Alan Teh Don’t give him any ideas 🙈
Yes Noodle is back. I would take the Lexus but I do love the 2nd gen XC90
Who is Noodle?! :)
Volvo for me, it didn’t punish me for having legs 😂
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the non hybrid is awesome too
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For a tall car they could have put some more headroom and legroom even a couple more inches. Mind you the Japanese are often shorter. I’ve got a Prius Plus and the third row is plenty comfy and roomy enough. Many happy family trips and my son is near 6ft! Still, it makes me laugh when these videos choose to put really tall people in the third row - come on who’s does that!!
Love the squeaky voice at the end: "Ooh Tiff- you need to slow down!"
Two fair dull cars, that are absolutely relevant, reviewed in a really engaging way. Thank you!
Thank you very much
I like Suv s
Nothing dull about the volvo. More than that horrible CVT Toyota or tiffs bland Beeeema.
being honest i prefer tiffs x5
Volvo's have that unpretentious, quality, classy image.
Great item as usual lads thanks
Thank you very much
What a rubbish review. People looking at these cars are interested in interior space, boot space - which car had the better ride? Economy, reliability, ability to get out of a muddy car park, or drive in the snow. Comparing two cars of different trim specs is also not really that informative. It would be like doing an M4 Vs C63 with the only pass criteria being which had the best cup holders.
I have an RX as the family barge, its economical, reliable, comfy, the CVT is transparent when being driven normally, despite being superbly engineered it is BORING, but was it really intended to be not boring? I love the look and feel of the Volvo but don't fancy the cost of a replacement battery pack should that ever fail out of warranty (much like the Cayenne hybrid) and don't think it will be a shining example of reliability.
Exactly.. This people's like the gypsy guys selling knifes. Nice, shiny, but after 2 months you can't cut the bread with it. 😂😂😂And what the idiot's do? Start buying volvo, but volvo don't know nothing about the hybrid system, lexus Toyota do now 20 years nearly.. I agree volvo better car if you are English guy with a lot of money (what dad and mom left here for you) and you don't mind to lose 20k in 3 years and after 3 years you sell the volvo.. Lexus forever, and KEEP THE VALUE.. check, Volvo same price second hand like lexus.. I talk abouts 2016-17 cars. When new, more than 10k different between the 2 car. So volvo owner lose more on service (reliability on 27 lexus number 1)😂plus the 10k. Well done. 😂😂😂
""Look! flying hybrid" rofl Tiff cracks me up lol
SnakeyUk08 It’s a Flybrid
Volvo ❤️
I’ve got a T8, and the 20mile elec range is surprisingly useful. I drive pretty much every day - so the 20 miles adds up to 7,000 miles per year. I.e. the first 7,000 miles I do each year is elec. And if I plug it in at home that’s less than half the price of petrol driving.
Ok this is right up my street. I have an X5 and now want to upgrade to a 7 seater hybrid and these are the two options I was considering.
Nice video Hopefully you complete your success to 100M subscribers
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Lexus
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Can adjust the distance calibration in the XC90 Tiff. Buttons on the left of the steering wheel
The drone of that Lexus in sport mode drove me crazy, not gonna lie 😂 The Volvo seems like the better car, and it also has a lot of crash safety going for it!
EA40's Life With Cars a better car!!?? It's hybrid it has a turbo and a supercharged engine that's a nightmare in terms of reliability for the Volvo and I don't like that
So fun to watch you guys enjoy reviewing family haulers. That Volvo is so so nice on the inside. Looks like a luxury Italian leather bag. Lexus looks like a Rubbermaid box with fancy designs and chrome accents on it, posing as something luxurious. But it will prolly last years longer than the Volvo, I'll give it that.
That's very nice of you to say about the guys, thank you!
tough choice. Great video. The Needels family will struggle choosing...
Mike Ciulini decisions decisions
I’m on my second new shape XC90. What a great place to be, you won’t get a better feeling of relaxation and comfort, it’s over 2 tons so just sit back and relax
The XC90 feels cheap
@@ln5747 well I now have a Tesla Y, love it, done 2 trips to alps once in summer and once in winter, and to trips to Menorca, I’m a big EV convert now, sooooo cheap to run, and lots of fun to drive
@@rwg2626 no thanks to EV
@@ln5747 missing out
Great video. We’ve had two Lexus RX450h 5 seat versions over the last four years and around 100,000 miles for our business (sadly finishing soon for health reasons etc) and they have been brilliant. We had a Mitsubishi PHEV for a year but didn’t like it. The Lexus made it feel like lightweight with poor build quality. Thanks again. Regards Bob M. South Wales
Hi Bob, thanks for your message. We thought of you when driving the Lexus!
Aaaaaand... Tiff gets air!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gold.
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Lexus is an hybrid car not a plug-in, so if you want do a good consumption you have to use car in eco mode and use the synergy of the two types of engine (electric and petrol).
Don’t use ev mode it drop down the battery really quickly and then car recharge it with petrol, you have to you the regenerative braking for slow deceleration and press the gas peddle gentle for the acceleration!
Many owners of suv do tow, which one is actually worth having if you tow? I suspect they arnt type approved for towing.
Volvo do an electric folding towbar, no restrictions!
Did you get lost driving to the school? You drove through lockerly, then west dean towards tytherley, then west dean again.
For XC90, kick once under the left side of the bumper, directly under the rear parking sensor
oh God, Tiff has a point, those Volvo wheel arches look silly
Tiff I had all the same issues on my RS6 all the electronics telling me what to do and even overruling me, so I switched it ALL OFF!! .. :-) On one occasion it actually scared the hell out of me... I really wasn't anticipating the car to do it's own thing. Other than that it's a great car. On the flip side it can get 40 mpg... which is crazy given it's performance and not that I care. 16 mpg would be more than sufficient.
Could i ask you guys something? I need to pick a new car at work, i'm considering the Volvo S60 or the Arteon. What should i pick? Haven't found a lot of films on these range of cars thanks!
The Volvo is a cooler car. Everybody drives a Volks wagen these days.
@@gexpe2003 i think I agree
Laurent, impossible to say. All depends on your biases and preferences. Personally I think Volvo’s interiors are the best in class and previously owning several they were always bullet proof and very safe for transporting the kids. Both manufacturers offer 48 hr test drives in the UK.
czcams.com/video/NaSLfz_zYUc/video.html
I have to say, I do like both of these cars, practicality wise, nice boot space. The Lexus boot opening sensors however to me looks a bit of a gimmick as there is a specific way to put your hand. The XC90 seems a bit easier. Driving wise the lexus was droning on when pressing hard on the accelerator pedal and to me it seems its EV mode will be more effective in heavy traffic. Overall the Volvo for me. There's only one small negative I have to say with the XC90. It looks like when you drive behind a car for the front sensors not to activate it seems you have a drive one car length away. Can that be adjusted to at least a metre away. I know driving too close to another car is dangerous. I even get nervous when people drive too close behind my swift. I always get the sense that if I were to suddenly slow down the other car will slam behind my car, but to me a car length is too much.
gpierre90 the distances were adjustable but not to the sort of lengths you are talking about.
The Volvo's distance alert alarm must be the same system they use in modern F1 cars. Formula 1 technology for the road!
Mat Gee not sure but Tiff wasn’t a big fan, however it had an option to modify the distance.
@@lovecarsTV They should definitely upgrade to that option in Formula One... And no DRS does not count!
Lexus seems to have a disconnect with its customer base, which is why they continue to use CVT boxes in all their new vehicles. It is like driving a drone. The XC90 is a step ahead and as you said like comparing first class to business class. Don’t get me started on the crappy Lexus infotainement system which is years behind the Volvo. I currently drive a Lexus GS350 but don’t think i will be upgrading to another Lexus in the future
Francois Gultig That's why lexus rx is one of the most sold crossover model and top selling hybrid in USA...
@@rpgPalette volvo sells more vechiles globally than lexus
RX design is strange. The interior is comfortable but the seats are wide so short people will not rest both elbows on the motorway. The trunk space is small in comparison to vehicles in its class. The trunk opens slowly. It is quiet, the seat is comfortable, the leather is good, the infotainment system is livable. The screen is massive and I like that. My wife can`t change the destination, when she is a passenger. That is pathetic form from Lexus - they know there is a passenger from the seatbelt and seat sensors. It is very inconvenient for us.
Toyota has already proven the reliability of all hybrid components - engine, trans and e-AWD.
Volvo has a turbo&super charged high-pressure 2.0l engine. I would worry to buy that second hand. So the air suspension is proven to be expensive to maintain. The resale value might be small, for those who care about things like that.
Volvo offer a screen protector for the screens that are resistant to fingerprints, only about £15/20.
The Real Gatsby nice to know 👍
They obviously don't buy Chinese. Or they do and make a killing, oh wait they are already 😜
The Real Gatsby that sticker easily get smudges all over, makes the colors and sharpness looks blurry and dull. I bought tempered glass from china ($4) and works miles better! Colour more vivid and much sharper like it suppose to. Threw the Volvo one away immediately even though it cost almost $70 ( South Africa) for that junk.
I bought Screen protector, now saving to buy volvo.
£6 from Germany
Tiff is the best.
Thank you. He reads the comments and will be pleased with this one!
For that price only Land or Lex. Amazing cars 👍. Thank you
You want a beautiful car? Take the Volvo! You need a trust car with no visit to the service dealer? Than buy the Lexus!
You forgot the best part. You want a super comfortable car with best seat ever, get Vovo. You want backache and visit to chiropractor, get Lexus.
ZZ funny
Unfortunately there really isn't a self-charging hybrid but it is a gas charging hybrid haha. Nice video as always though!
nodrogkam thank you. It’s not for everyone but would certain work for some people extremely well
The power to the weight ratio gets quite bad anyways with the batteries onboard , your thoughts on that?
Rohan George yes you maybe right and they are not ideal for lots of people but perfect for some. Both cars had enough power but possibly not enough if power was the most important criteria
5.5 seconds to 60 not enough???
Volvo !
I like how this channel also covers non sports cars
Stijn Hernalsteen we love sports cars but also try to produce a range of content for our viewers.Glad you like it 👍
I don't think that Volvo will last 12 Years like the X5 did. I don't even wanna think about the repair bills when you have a hybrid engine, with a Supercharger and a Turbo under the bonnet. That being said, the XC90's (and all new Volvos) are stunning. The design is just about perfection.
Japanese cars are so reliable; it’s a royal pain in the backside when your car is stuck in the garage and waiting nervously for the bill. I’ve had hybrids and electric for over twenty years, and never had any problems with Lexus or Toyota hybrid systems. The batteries last the life of the vehicle. My last Prius had over 260k miles and still went like a tank. Their reliability puts others to shame.
Volvo 👌
Which would Tiff prefer? 2 seconds plugging in the Volvo, or 5 minutes queueing at the petrol station?
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I have a 2018 Volvo s90 which is the sedan version and I like the car but its had some problems early in its ownership. I don't think I'd want to keep too long past its warranty. The brakes aren't that good, the suspension is way too stiff and it still rolls in the corners. But that interior of that Lexus looks like a 2012 model and the Volvo has ahead of its time tech. I have self driving on mine and it comes standard. All in all I like my Volvo alot.
I feel sorry for the third row passenger in the lexus 😂
Easily Volvo wins this
Tun Piccolo the cameraman is over 6ft and tbf these seats are designed for children
Volvo includes a really nice cleaning cloth in the glove compartment for the display.
I love the Volvo
9:00 on hillarious!
Volvo everyday! I’m buying a new XC90 soon, but the regular one, the T6, not hybrid... That Lexus is just soooo ugly... It is just a Rav-4 disguised as a Lexus, and that exaggerated look will age so, so poorly. The Volvo has been around for a while and it still looks as handsome as it has ever been. A beautiful car! Power to good design!!
Love the RX tbh
Loved the boot opening technique scene made gave me a real good belly laugh
Adj Rasta surely once you got to know the car they would have opened more efficiently but yes it was funny 👍
U want a car sitting at shop waiting for overpriced repairs and parts - volvo.
U want worry free car - lexus.
why do you say that
What was your favourite out of the two Tiff?
There was no conclusion
Ha lovely quality that Volvo until it breaks.
If you compare Volvo with Lada you might have a winner
you noobs know that the LEXUS RX is the best selling SUV in USA ? its 3.5 ltr. V6 is a engine ....bulletproof since decades now !
I wish they had a twin turbo option for this V6.... like the LS. Have a sporty version like AMG.
@@Ilikepie18855 indeed yes or their great V8 from the LC500 or RCF. But instead of this they cancelled this nice V6Hybrid from their ES300 sedan and dont sell the GS450H anymore .-(
Best selling in the USA? That kinda settles it, in terms of a sensible alternative.
Anybody else noticed how the wheels of the Volvo at that speed looks like they are standing still at 3:52 sek 😂
That's due to frame rate of their video camera.
The styling on the front of the Lexus reminds of the Cylon helmets from the original (1978) Battlestar Galactica . All that is missing is the red laser light and the voice synthesizer saying "by your command". Cool looking car, but I wouldn't want to sit in the back of it with such a low roof line - the same reason as to why I don't like the Toyota C-HR . Are all car designers vertically challenged? Don't they realise that the average height of the population is increasing? 6ft+ is the norm for teenagers now! Still, I would love to drive the Lexus.
They are both really great to drive. Leg space in the back seems to be a big issue in the SUV 7 seat category
@@lovecarsTV I know, I have two older teenagers but not as old as your two :-)
Alan Dawson 😂
Really bad test of the Lexus. The rear seats are some of the comfiest I’ve sat in. They both slide backwards/forwards and can be reclined almost horizontally. Incredibly comfortable. The 3rd row are clearly for kids anyway, as most 7-seats cars/SUVs are, so that’s not an issue.
The PHEV will always win for elec-only driving over a normal hybrid, that’s obvious. The Volvo is lovely as well. All depends on what you want out of the car.
Fair enough and good point about the seats 👍
im more of a Lexus guy than a Volvo guy, but on this one id take the Volvo
Would you pay the extra $$ for the Volvo though? :)
Lovecars along with more power, the XC90 clearly has the edge in terms of EV capability and I wouldn't have a problem paying up to £5000 more for a comparably equipped Volvo, but no more. On the other hand, if I were planning to keep the vehicle for more than just a few years, the peace of mind that comes with Lexus' long term quality, reliability, and durability is priceless.
@@georgecostanza2695 indeed
Urban legend volvo xc90 👍
Police officer: Sir, do you know how fast you were going?
Tiff: I only touched the throttle!
Police Officer: You were going 100 in a 30..
Tiff: I TICKLED THE THROTTLE..!
0:51 “first Lexus with 7 seats” didn’t the GX/Land cruiser have 3-rows?
We didn't get the GX in the UK.
I think my driveway is wider than the roads in the UK.
Can't see how you can call the Lexus a hybrid with CO2 at 134. As a company car owner I'd have been interested but the tax is crippling compared to the Volvo with 52.
Pedal feel for brake by wire is quite the interesting subject. With ignition on (excuse me, the drive mode selector knob or button) you depress pedal and it is scary as there is very long travel before you find the point where brakes have hydraulic application. With vehicle in driving mode and you move even at a slow pace you depress pedal and the vehicle brakes with regenerative or hydraulic or maybe both, and you think the pedal is hard. Our brains have little actual sense of foot effort. The brake pedal sense all based on the push versus deceleration sensing.
Hi Jimmy. Thanks for this. The brain is a funny old thing. Very interesting reading and food for thought
Anyone test drove both? Which one has better ride comfort?
We have both and hands down love the xc90 it’s a level above Lexus and more room.
@@AT_PokemonTCG89 thank you
Nice house.
Humorous lol
Thats true its a lil power or everything its got the in between is horrible
Ask Scotty...
my old RX450Hybrid still runs perfect with 230000km and first battery and its 3,5ltr n/a engine in Atkinsoncycle runs still smooth and very depressing ! I doubt a turbo+supercharged little Lawnmower-engine will last that long ! czcams.com/video/3bSB_TdBA8A/video.html
As a former Volvo owner I got tired of having problems not being resolved by the dealer. So Lexus (Toyota) vehicles are for me. 2017 RX 350 and 2019 Toyota RAV 4. 2001 RX 300 lasted 263,000 miles without many problems. I understand Volvo is A subsidiary of the Chinese automotive company Geely.
You gonna love your Lexus when you take it to service and you get the bill. Volvo will empty your pockets just because it's a Volvo...
Lexus will need far fewer trips to the garage than any if its rivals I think, it will also outlast all the Germans
It takes only one major accidents and you wish you were in Volvo rather than hospital bed or wheel chair.
ZZ lexus has the highest ratings on crash tests....
Absolutely volvo +
Volvo all the way! But only with the 5-pot D5 engine, that's why I'm hanging on to my 2013 D5 XC60 until it dies .. then I'll buy a bicykle.
Volvo all day!
Volvo and Swedish engineering all the way!
Gents, read the manuals before testing... ex - the Volvo has a simple (!) steering wheel mounted control for the distance ahead windscreen warning display. That said, a quick realisation was had in that these two cars are in completely different leagues.
Poor test chaps.
Volvo 👍🥇
3:51 looks like the car is levitating forwards without the wheels rotating!
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That is due to the frame rate of the video camera matching the wheel frequencies
Volvo
Check this 2 car value, and service cost in the next 7-10 years. We speak again later. 😉😁
I'll take Volvo, the RX-L was a after thought, so obviously is gonna suck in the third roll. the new 2020 Highlander which the next generation of RX and RX-L are based on, only have slight improvement in third roll comfort, so don't expect too much on next gen RX-L.
Xc90 rear seats isn’t any better....only suitable for kids
@@Ilikepie18855 seating in xc90 is like being in first class cabin of Etihad vs, lexus which is United air line seat...Absolutely no comparison. You want class. Comfort and luxury, you go with Volvo.
@@meenam300zx we have both XC90 and RX350. RX is more like first class and XC90 is more like economy. Especially rear seats, can't recline as much, very hard, small, not very comfortable. RX on the other hand is spacious, very comfortable. Sleep so well
I have had both cars and certainly the Volvo is better!
Lexus all the way baby. Know enough about Volvo’s and their electrical nightmares. Might as well own a rover😂
Well stick with something unsafe