Hair/Glam Metal Didn’t Die in 1991! (w/Martin Popoff)

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  • Join Pete Pardo & Martin Popoff as they discuss 10 albums each of examples that hair/glam metal still had plenty of life left in it post 1990. #hairmetal #glammetal
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  • @glebe9
    @glebe9 Před 5 měsíci +27

    Tyketto - Don't Come Easy (1991)

  • @kevinm5957
    @kevinm5957 Před 4 měsíci +15

    Some favorites
    Dangerous Toys- Hellacious Acres 1991
    Winger- Pull 1993
    Warrant- Dog Eat Dog 1992
    Kik Tracee-No Rules 1991
    Bulletboys-Freakshow 1991
    LA Guns- Hollywood Vampires 1991

    • @damienfoyer
      @damienfoyer Před 4 měsíci +3

      Everyone of those is a winner. Great releases.

  • @stephanea5364
    @stephanea5364 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Vince Neil's Exposed with Steve Stevens shredding like a madman.

  • @howardrice8533
    @howardrice8533 Před 5 měsíci +37

    I would include these:
    Warrant - Dog Eat Dog
    Tora Tora - Wild America

    • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
      @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 Před 5 měsíci

      Definitely

    • @williamoat8102
      @williamoat8102 Před 5 měsíci +9

      IMO, Dog Eat Dog is Warrant’s best album and it’s not even close. Didn’t have to skip one song.

    • @gwts1171
      @gwts1171 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Both are great albums that I still listen to.

    • @retro_wanderluster9962
      @retro_wanderluster9962 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Dog Eat Dog would have been my 1 or 2 but slave to the grind was listed at least. Those are probably my top 2.

    • @stephanea5364
      @stephanea5364 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good choices. Two great records. I'd had Vince Neil's Exposed

  • @atelierwolfhoek
    @atelierwolfhoek Před 4 měsíci +7

    Lita Ford's "Dangerous Curves" from 1991 is her best album! It's kind of sad, but a lot of so-called '1980s bands' made their best albums in the difficult 1990s.

  • @purpletemple1
    @purpletemple1 Před 4 měsíci +8

    The Cult-Ceremony. Bombastic album with great lengthy tracks and still some sing-along radio-friendly choruses. Great album.
    Cheers.

  • @barth4747
    @barth4747 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Martin's comments on King's X, Dug Pinnick SPOT ON... Couldn't have said it better myself...

  • @jcollins1305
    @jcollins1305 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I think the reason these albums and bands survived was that they were hair metal in name only. They were well written and performed, with more honest songwriting.

  • @BlackMoore82
    @BlackMoore82 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Shotgun Messiah - Second Coming (1991).
    Shotgun Messiah - Violent New Breed (1993).
    Blue Murder - Nothin' But Trouble (1993).

  • @pvdguitars2951
    @pvdguitars2951 Před 5 měsíci +15

    1990 to 1993 was an amazing era for new interesting bands. Saigon Kick, Galactic Cowboys, Dream Theater, Love/Hate, Badlands, Extreme, Temple of the Dog …
    It was a period of transition with tons of talent, virtuosity and creativity but unfortunately as always only a few winners ( Grunge).

    • @brianwacker9111
      @brianwacker9111 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Galactic Cowboys! What a great band, especially live.

    • @brianm7185
      @brianm7185 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@brianwacker9111 still around too and possibly making a new record soon...

  • @kaosmonger73
    @kaosmonger73 Před 4 měsíci +9

    7:21 What a great show and killer picks! Other bands that come to mind in the same circumstances are Blue Murder, Tora Tora, Warrant, Jetboy, Faster Pussycat, Bad English, Vixen, Danger Danger, Shotgun Messiah, Giant, Dangerous Toys, House Of Lords, Great White, Junkyard, XYZ, Bang Tango, Kingdom Come, Electric Boys, Saraya!!!

  • @petebrown3715
    @petebrown3715 Před 4 měsíci +24

    Tesla IMHO is not a "hair metal" band. They were much more a classic rock and hard rock band closer to the 70's like Bad Company type.

    • @jkbaca41
      @jkbaca41 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That's what I was going to point out. They always had that 70s vibe going on in their music.

    • @youtoo2233
      @youtoo2233 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@jkbaca41probably because of their cover of the 70's song Signs

  • @georgerodriguez1912
    @georgerodriguez1912 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Salty Dog,Sea Hags,Johnny Crash,Flies on Fire,Wild Side,Bang Tango,Princess Pang,Dirty Blonde

  • @zackamanda9799
    @zackamanda9799 Před 5 měsíci +10

    44:36 Wingers new album "Seven" is fantastic. There are 3 videos for the new album on CZcams. I personnely love Proud Desperado

  • @williamtallman9816
    @williamtallman9816 Před 4 měsíci +5

    That War Babies album is Excellent

  • @brianm7185
    @brianm7185 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I would add Salty Dog - Every Dog Has Its Day 1990. Great sounding CD.

  • @zoef234
    @zoef234 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I love glam, hair metal/cock rock but the genre did need a break by the 90s. I also loved grunge and all that. Bring it all on.
    Spread Eagle
    White Lion - Mane Attraction
    Tesla - Psychotic Supper/Bust a Nut( Brian Wheats book is worth a read if you re a Tesla fan)

    • @mickward7769
      @mickward7769 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Damn read my mind \m/
      Big Soundgarden and 90's fan but both Spread Eagle records, all the Saigon Kick albums, War Babies, Heavy Bones, defs Bust A Nut to list just a few but all essential and could've should've survived and thrived the 90's scene.

  • @dferris7767
    @dferris7767 Před 5 měsíci +7

    3 bands I was looking forward to carrying music into the 1990's from the late 80's(starting around 1989) were Mr. Big, Extreme, Bonham, and Badlands. I loved all the debut albums of these bands. I would also mention Mr Big's 3rd album "Bump Ahead." that came out within a week or two of Pearl Jam's second album. Love your lists on this one. Martin, thanks for singling out the second Bonham album. As a drummer myself, I loved Jason's playing on this second album.

  • @jaybos1114
    @jaybos1114 Před 5 měsíci +22

    I remember buying Nevermind in 91 thinking this was another extension of hard rock music. Didn’t realize it would eliminate a lot of my favorite bands.

    • @waverlyking6045
      @waverlyking6045 Před 5 měsíci +17

      It didn’t. It was the music industry that turned the bands like Nirvana into just another trend they could easily discard once the next big scene came along. It wasn’t your fault.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 Před 4 měsíci +6

      The annoying thing about the 90's alternative craze is that most mainstream 80's rock groups were objectively more talented than the 90's ones. 2nd and even 3rd tier 80's style rock groups are a lot more interesting and entertaining than some of the 1st tier 90's groups.

    • @independenceltd.
      @independenceltd. Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@ryanjacobson2508 yep. as much as the "cool kids" liked to mock them for their lack of talent, the vast majority of those bands could play rings around 99% of the grunge bands.

    • @MetalPersonJ
      @MetalPersonJ Před 4 měsíci +3

      and sterlize rock from that point forward.

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@ryanjacobson2508 Non musicians dont care about who can play and sing better than so and so. Thats a hang up that musicians seem to have. A average 14 yr old Nirvana fan in 1991 didnt care that the members of Warrant and Slaughter were better musicians.. Thats some nerd shit right there.

  • @danielwolski873
    @danielwolski873 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Bon Jovi is the best example of a band that didn't get hurt by the 90's. They continued to be very successful throughout the decade and even beyond.

    • @charlesottowilliamwade5328
      @charlesottowilliamwade5328 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yes but they certainly weren't playing 'hair metal' in the 90s, or even hard rock for that matter

    • @danielwolski873
      @danielwolski873 Před 5 měsíci

      @@charlesottowilliamwade5328 They did some different things for sure but also many of their songs in the 90's didn't sound that much different than what they were doing before.

    • @irishspagetti6565
      @irishspagetti6565 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Aerosmith too, who had a career resurgence in the late 80s and it continued into the 90s

    • @andrewcarr5923
      @andrewcarr5923 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes but they more or less morphed into a pop rock band as John and his hairdresser chased mainstream chart domination.

    • @ryanjacobson2508
      @ryanjacobson2508 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@andrewcarr5923I never really considered Bon Jovie to be metal at all... Just pop music with unusually heavy guitars, but of course even that got toned with each passing album.

  • @benjaminandrews8148
    @benjaminandrews8148 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Slughter is a great example of a band that lived past 1991 there is also skid row and firehouse

  • @leeblack1277
    @leeblack1277 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Aww man. You missed my favorite, Warrant - Dog Eat Dog from 1992. It is a perfect album imo.

    • @chrisflood9205
      @chrisflood9205 Před 4 měsíci +2

      theres a podcast decibel geek that just did a two hour show on warrant

    • @diamondd2778
      @diamondd2778 Před 4 měsíci +1

      They forgot em!

  • @rickmolen7977
    @rickmolen7977 Před 5 měsíci +16

    What hurt 'Hair Metal " bands was that if one only knew of their power ballads , this was an injustice to their other material.

    • @williamwalker146
      @williamwalker146 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good point. Their true heavy metal tracks should have been pushed more.

  • @MrStephen73
    @MrStephen73 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Steelheart, Babylon AD and Wildside definitely deserve a mention

  • @brianm7185
    @brianm7185 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My picks:
    Killer Dwarfs - Method To The Madness 1992
    Lynch Mob - s/t 1992
    Faster Pussycat - Whipped 1992
    L.A. Guns - Hollywood Vampires 1991
    Junkyard - Sixes Sevens and Nines 1991
    Tora Tora - Wild America 1992

  • @aelfredrex8354
    @aelfredrex8354 Před 5 měsíci +9

    It's alive and kicking in Sweden.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Před 4 měsíci

      Crazy Lixx from Sweden are so great! They are nothing but 1987 sounding. Love their stuff.

    • @aelfredrex8354
      @aelfredrex8354 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@joeb2588 And Vic Zino is now jamming with Hardcore Superstar. There's a helluva combo.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Před 4 měsíci

      @aelfredrex8354 cool. I'll check it out. Thanks! How about this one? Santa Cruz? The album Screaming For Adrenaline is an absolute monster. I did not like any of their follow up stuff and the band broke up. I think the lead singer was a handful....either way, "Screaming for Adrenaline" is amazing.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Před 4 měsíci

      @aelfredrex8354 ok I'm listening to "you can't kill my Rock n Roll. This is great. Is this their style? In other words, is this their sound? 80's?

    • @aelfredrex8354
      @aelfredrex8354 Před 4 měsíci

      @@joeb2588 The Swedish Sound. Modern hair metal with a punk edge.

  • @jasonlindsay2429
    @jasonlindsay2429 Před 4 měsíci

    Excited for the new show tomorrow!!! I love how much music your channel has introduced me to over the past few years. It might not get the amount of views or likes as some of your other shows, but its very much appreciated by many of us!

  • @Filip_Melander
    @Filip_Melander Před 4 měsíci +3

    Danger Danger - Screw it! is also very good!

  • @woutwout8398
    @woutwout8398 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Badlands, a well-deserved n°1.

  • @johnhardy9161
    @johnhardy9161 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great topic guys. Love your Friday at the Fun house shows. Keep up the excellent work Pete and Martin.

  • @MrDuncanquasar
    @MrDuncanquasar Před 4 měsíci +4

    Nice to see Badlands Voodoo Highway. Outstanding album. Also, really liked The Cult's Ceremony album from 1991.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před 4 měsíci

      Try to find the unreleased Badlands album Dusk. Amazing!

    • @MrDuncanquasar
      @MrDuncanquasar Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Assimilator702 I have it. It's great

  • @bradjp37
    @bradjp37 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Great show! I would also add Southgang to the discussion. They produced two excellent hair metal albums in the early-1990s---Tainted Angel and Group Therapy.

  • @dtltmtgt
    @dtltmtgt Před 5 měsíci +6

    Agree Martin on "Revenge", Gene and Paul did get revenge. Great return to form (best they had done since "Creatures"). They had a pulse on which direction the winds were blowing in the hard rock business.

  • @MetalJesusRocks
    @MetalJesusRocks Před 4 měsíci +3

    I really love Firehouse debut and Hold Your Fire. Excellent stuff. 🤘

    • @Duality_of_Man
      @Duality_of_Man Před 4 měsíci

      For sure man! Even the third album (name is blanking but it's the Love Is A Dangerous Thing album), also really dig those final two albums, PrimeTime and O2... My first favorite band

  • @srobbins1973
    @srobbins1973 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Good discussion Martin and Pete!

  • @dkopack71
    @dkopack71 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Love/Hate’s first 3 albums are classics and timeless!

  • @NapoleanThePug
    @NapoleanThePug Před 5 měsíci +4

    Other bands carrying the "glam metal" torch into the 90's...
    Dirty Looks - Five Easy Pieces ('92), Chewing on the Bit ('94), One Bad Leg ('95), Slave to the Machine ('96)
    Vain - All Those Strangers ('91), Move On It ('93), Fade ('95)
    D.A.D. - Riskin It All ('91), Helpyourselfish ('95), Simpatico ('97)
    Roxx Gang - The Voodoo You Love ('95)

  • @Duality_of_Man
    @Duality_of_Man Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love the mention of Firehouse, it was the band that first sparked my love of music... in 2009, when I was five years old and got an old MP3 player from my dad. Along with Poison and Bon Jovi my youngling years were complete lol

  • @billphelps5611
    @billphelps5611 Před 4 měsíci

    You guys do a great show every week, I never miss one.

  • @motleyfan7558
    @motleyfan7558 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You guys killed it on this one. One of your best Martin and Pete.

  • @psychopoison
    @psychopoison Před 5 měsíci +12

    Winger - Pull
    Danger Danger - Screw It
    Poison - Native Tongue
    Motley Crue - Motley Crue
    All great and criminally underrated albums released in or after 91

    • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
      @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 Před 5 měsíci

      Agreed

    • @roachman627
      @roachman627 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Would also put Dog Eat Dog by Warrant and Cinderella's Still Climbing.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@davidmitchell6873 Not particularly a fan of Poison but I do like Winger and I think your assessment of them and comparison to Poison is way off the mark.
      Winger are superb musicians. Pull is a terrific album. Winger also put out their excellent 7th album last year and are still going strong. I would suggest you actually listen to Winger's albums rather than watch Beavis & Bhead cartoons.

    • @independenceltd.
      @independenceltd. Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@jimmycampbell78 he has never heard more than a couple of songs from either band. guaranteed.

  • @pascaldesgagnes9033
    @pascaldesgagnes9033 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Lillian Axe - Psychoschizophrenia, their best album, came out in 1993.

    • @mikem.7921
      @mikem.7921 Před 4 měsíci

      They have put out even better albums since then

  • @dtltmtgt
    @dtltmtgt Před 5 měsíci +7

    Tesla and Cinderella stand out from your picks for me. The former are still around and touring in '24. Saw them both twice back in the day.

  • @edlimey
    @edlimey Před 3 měsíci +1

    Faster Pussycat - Whipped (1992)
    Ratt- Detonator (1990), Collage ('97)

  • @lowenbad
    @lowenbad Před 5 měsíci +5

    That teenage band “Bad4Good” that Steve Vai produced only put out one album in 1992, but it’s great.

    • @ciaranmeeks9431
      @ciaranmeeks9431 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Agreed! Great album with some solid, memorable tracks. 'Nothing Great About A Heartache' is one of the better power ballads of the era.

    • @jasongoad1084
      @jasongoad1084 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Love that album!!!

    • @lowenbad
      @lowenbad Před 4 měsíci +1

      It’s on my “wish it would get a vinyl pressing” wish list. I even told Thomas McRocklin from the band that it should get a reissue on vinyl. He actually agreed!

  • @brianzawistowski5743
    @brianzawistowski5743 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great White - Hooked
    Warrant - Dog Eat Dog
    Cry of Love - Brother
    Brother Cane ST
    Freak of Nature ST
    Scorpions - Face the Heat
    Mr. Big - Bump Ahead
    Heavy Bones ST
    Tyketto - Don't Come Easy
    Saxon - Solid Ball of Rock
    House of Lords - Demons Down
    The Scream - Let It Scream
    Blue Murder - Nothin But Trouble
    Lillian Axe - Poetic Justice

  • @kenfrederick6223
    @kenfrederick6223 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Babylon AD, Heavens Edge, and Hurricane come to minds as really solid bands that might have been a little late to the party and not promoted properly. 🎸

  • @jasonwalt1664
    @jasonwalt1664 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Love this video. Never got into grunge. Still listen to all these bands you listed

  • @monkeyhouse1672
    @monkeyhouse1672 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I LOVED 😍 🥰 ♥️ this show fellas - I grew up as a teenager as many of these AMAZING records came out. And bought them. And saw the tours.... LOVE #LOVE/HATE so much - what a.mindblowing record #wastedinAmerica is.... One thing you forgot (which would be my #1 / #2 along with Love/Hate) - is Saigon Kick's 'The 🦎 Lizard'... that record was an upgrade on the debut, psychedelic, Beatles-y, heavy, riffy and just had some shit hot songs. Still play it today !!!

  • @bobjoe7508
    @bobjoe7508 Před 5 měsíci +13

    Some of my favorite albums of the genre are from 1992 or later such as Saints & Sinners (from Canada), Under the Influence (Wildside), and Fear No Evil (Slaughter; One of the best of the genre).
    Oh also I don’t think Enuff Z’Nuff is a glam metal band. They had the production but their songwriting is fundamentally not very glam. They’re a power pop band. I would also throw in Danger Danger and Hurricane. Hurricane were playing large theater and arena shows in 1992. FireHouse also kept having hits and a huge fan base into the mid 90s

    • @aleksandarfrick2656
      @aleksandarfrick2656 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Bon Jovi only survived Grunge without scratch . Women army - strongest in the world protect them .

    • @gwts1171
      @gwts1171 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Under The Influence is one of my top ten "hair" albums overall. I don't consider that term unsavory at all, either. I was pretty damn proud of my hair at the time!

    • @bobjoe7508
      @bobjoe7508 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@gwts1171 ‘Hair metal’ has often been used as a derogatory term to deride the genre. I don’t really mind it, but I don’t like using it. I much prefer glam metal because it fits the bands a lot more. I’ve got long, poofy, wavy hair that looks like I always have hair spray!

    • @axxellein
      @axxellein Před 4 měsíci

      Damn Straight!!@@gwts1171

    • @De-probationibus-conspiratio
      @De-probationibus-conspiratio Před 4 měsíci +1

      Early on Enuff Z'Nuff were certainly qualified as being glam metal as they dressed the part to the hilt similar to Poison
      On the terminology of the use of "Hair Metal" I've always used "Commercial Hard Rock" or "Melodic Metal" more than Glam or Sleaze unless the makeup and fashion they wore was overpowering
      But nonetheless Enuff Z'Nuff should have been a multi platinum sensation
      I'd also put TNT in that multi platinum should haves too , Le Tekro and Harnell are fantastic songwriters as great as Vie and Chip

  • @NAETEMUSIC
    @NAETEMUSIC Před 4 měsíci +3

    surprised Winger's Pull was not on here! Def their best, and one of the best prog-metal albums of the early 90s (Junkyard Dog rips!)

    • @seaoftranquilityprog
      @seaoftranquilityprog  Před 4 měsíci +2

      It was my #2

    • @NAETEMUSIC
      @NAETEMUSIC Před 4 měsíci

      @@seaoftranquilityprog oh man musta missed that glad to hear! Just an all timer in general!

  • @user-hn7dj9ro3m
    @user-hn7dj9ro3m Před 4 měsíci +3

    How did they not talk about "Hungry" by XYZ?? Also, you might want to check out Retrospect Records and Demon Doll records - they reissue a lot of good glam/hair metal by bands that were pretty much overlooked from the 80s thru 90s!

  • @joseantoniomarmol6324
    @joseantoniomarmol6324 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just can’t get enough of this estupendos duo. Glam metal has never been a topic on this channel, at least since I subscribed back in 2019… a White Lion ranking with Lynn, a collab with Hack on Skid Row, some Cinderella and Leppard here and there, but that’s about it… but this lately insertion in the genre has captivated me, because glam metal is the genre on which I came to listen/know/understand music, back in 86-87 when I was 9-10 years old. Very cool that Pete has embraced this series with his partner in crime… looking forward to more stuff! Perhaps an episode honoring some underdogs or obscure bands from that era? Cheers guys, you are the best!!!

    • @seaoftranquilityprog
      @seaoftranquilityprog  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’ve done Ratt, Stryper, Dokken, Cinderella, Winger, Tesla, and a bunch more. Not a new thing!

    • @joseantoniomarmol6324
      @joseantoniomarmol6324 Před 4 měsíci

      @@seaoftranquilityprog very very true! Stryper was with Catino I think! Thanks for your reply Pete! Rock on and Prog on! You are doing a fantastic job, cheers!! 🍻

  • @dangrise6182
    @dangrise6182 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Good interesting topic. Regarding the title, if hair metal didn't die in 1991 it certainly did by 1994. That becomes apparent with the dismall album chart positions cited throughout the video. It's interesting Pete that you have Winger up near the top of your list. In 1995 I was visiting my cousin in Sault Ste. Marie Canada. We were downtown heading to the Princess which was a decent sized bar that was originally built as a movie theater. On our way we walked by a much smaller bar; maybe a 50 seater. Anyway on the window there was a sign announcing that Winger was playing there. We couldn't make up our minds as to whether or not this could possibly be the same Winger that was hugely popular just a few short years before. To this day, I still don't know. But when you think back to how adruptly the door was closed on the old guard it wouldn't surprise me. If anyone is in the know please tell me.

    • @De-probationibus-conspiratio
      @De-probationibus-conspiratio Před 4 měsíci

      Commercial Hard Rock was still very much alive in 1992 though on borrowed time, by '93 the only new non-grunge commercial hard rock band that I'm aware of that was signed to a major label was The Graveyard Train on Geffen records
      Once The Headbangers Ball was cancelled out of the blue in January '95 and later in Europe in '97 then the final nail was driven in
      Only in Japan and parts of South East Asia like The Philippines Thailand Indonesia and Malaysia was commercial Hard Rock still popular to any real degree and maybe parts of South America too

  • @mikeb.7183
    @mikeb.7183 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Here is what I saw as a young single guy in 91. It was all fashion inspired music. Most of the normal girls started listening to the Def Lepard version of country music and the more extreme girls went towards what would become Industrial metal. Guys followed.

  • @Filip_Melander
    @Filip_Melander Před 4 měsíci +2

    Love the Europe album. Very underrated. My contribution would be Great White - Psycho City and Def Leppard - Adrenalize

  • @ivitakops
    @ivitakops Před 4 měsíci

    I am watching your channel from The Netherlands! Like it :-)

  • @dmac3316
    @dmac3316 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Another solid show guys, thanks! Skid Row Slave to the Grind was a fave of mine when it came out. Subhuman Race is another really good record. I still listen to them.

  • @rockandmetalinvasion
    @rockandmetalinvasion Před 5 měsíci +2

    As usual another great show and discussion. You could also perhaps add the Motherland album to the Bonham discography. Honored to have had Martin talk about Wasted In America on my channel. Such a good album but I think the quality of the music being released at the time had nothing to do with hair metals lack of success post 1991.

  • @tommyaddison6539
    @tommyaddison6539 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Best show on CZcams by far

  • @jeffriley4658
    @jeffriley4658 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Cheers Pete & Martin, Gotta say I was not a huge ‘Grunge’ fan and I from Seattle. Pear Jam has sucked since their second album, Nirvana had on good album. Mudhoney was bellow average garage band. However, Soudgarden and Alice In Chains (my favorite band during the early 90’s) kick ass over all the bands you listed.

  • @craigburgess7105
    @craigburgess7105 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Lots of rabbit holes dived down after watching this - have bought a couple of Tesla albums. I always loved Love Hate and Badlands ( Martin got me into Badlands from one of his books many years ago ) bought the records off the back of that.

  • @gaznathemoon1128
    @gaznathemoon1128 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I remember The Quireboy's A Bit of What You Fancy😁'90

    • @mikem.7921
      @mikem.7921 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The Brits could definitely throw a party

  • @holspa
    @holspa Před 5 měsíci +4

    Some of the better bands today playing this style are CRASHDIET, HARDCORE SUPERSTAR, CRAZY LIXX or JOLLY JOKER. And yes, lot of good albums in this style came our during the 90s. SLAUGHTER is a great exemple. A 90s band. FIREHOUSE too, an other 90s band but sounding 80s. Second BATON ROUGE album was really good too. The debut by VINCE NEIL super. STEELHEART super too and the second BABYLON AD or SARAYA from the 90s are great albums. Good show.

    • @leeblack1277
      @leeblack1277 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Kissin’ Dynamite is pretty good too.

  • @youtoo2233
    @youtoo2233 Před 4 měsíci

    So true, it just took a major back seat to grunge for a while, but some of those glam bands survived and went on to do greatest hits tours to this day

  • @user-zx8de8op9l
    @user-zx8de8op9l Před 5 měsíci +1

    I never got too much into hair metal, the exception being Motley Crue, Skid Row, Twisted Sister, and Quiet Riot. The last two mainly do to their videos when I was 9 or 10 yrs. old. I discovered extreme metal at age 15 in 1989. Death metal took over from thrash, for me. I will always be an Iron. Maiden fan. In 1990 I fist heard Black Sabbath and am a big fan to this day. I pretty much stopped listening to death metal in 1995, and switched to classic rock. Now I have as much knowledge about music as these two gentlemen who talk about music. Some genres I know more about then they do, as they don't talk about Blues, Big Band, Jazz, or Classic Country.

  • @jasonmarkle9016
    @jasonmarkle9016 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Great White - Hooked - 1991
    LA Guns - Hollywood Vampires - 1991
    Mr Big - Lean into it and Bump Ahead - 1991 / 1993
    Hardline - Double Eclipse -1992
    Alice Cooper - Hey Stoopid - 1991
    Van Halen - F.U.C.K - 1991
    XYZ - Hungry - 1991
    David Lee Roth - Little Ain't Enough - 1991
    Extreme - 3 sides - 1992
    GnR - Use your Illusion 1 & 2 - 1991
    Tesla - Psychotic Supper & Bust A nut - 1991 / 1994
    Badlands - Voodoo Highway - 1991
    There was a lot of good music in this time period for guys like me that wasn't into the whole grunge scene (except for Pearl Jam Ten)

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před 4 měsíci

      While this is true it was the last wave before the meteor lit up the sky if you weren’t a Grunge band or a Death Metal band.

    • @onekoolmedic
      @onekoolmedic Před 4 měsíci

      Great album choices.

  • @mikem.7921
    @mikem.7921 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great white ❤ they were amazing and phycho city in 92 is brilliant

  • @sixstringsninelives
    @sixstringsninelives Před 5 měsíci +2

    The thing about Prisoners in Paradise is they actually wrote a whole different album (which you can actually find the demos of) but the record label didn't like it so they basically started it over again.

    • @j.r.90001
      @j.r.90001 Před 4 měsíci +1

      According to the band, Prisoners didn't sell 'cause the band didn't tour after the Final C. The label preferred them to write and put up a new album instead of gaining a loyal fanbase via touring (in the US, especially).

  • @mikem.7921
    @mikem.7921 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Life sex and Death put out one album but it's a killer entitled the silent majority it's amazing

  • @MegaPalesz
    @MegaPalesz Před 4 měsíci

    Perfect albums!

  • @45641560456405640563
    @45641560456405640563 Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting to see this just a couple of days after seeing Slaughter and other melodic rock bands at Glamfest in Melbourne, Australia.

  • @JWCFB
    @JWCFB Před 4 měsíci

    I adore that self titled Lynch Mob album too Pete

  • @richardwillis6936
    @richardwillis6936 Před 4 měsíci

    Show idea: Best bonus tracks from Deluxe reissues.

  • @CultoalViniloyalCompacto-bx5mr
    @CultoalViniloyalCompacto-bx5mr Před 4 měsíci +2

    I don't think was grunge who killed hair and trash metal artistically. I'd say alternative metal, industrial and post hardcore was responsable. Things like Helmet, Ministry, NIN, Rollins Band, Fugazi, Girls against boys, KMDMF, 90s Killing Joke, Neurosis, Kyuss, Faith No More, Rage Against the Machne and Jane´s Addiction blew my mind back in the day.

  • @travelandwriting
    @travelandwriting Před 4 měsíci

    Queensryche-Promised Land (1994) is a great listen almost 30 years later. Very overlooked. It is melodic, moody in a good way, with prog elements. Very thinking man's metal, some heavy moments with "Damaged". "Lady Jane" is probably the best track on it and "My Global Mind" and "Someone Else?" up there too.

  • @andrewcarr5923
    @andrewcarr5923 Před 4 měsíci +1

    From the inception of this show I've always appreciated Martins loyalty and championing of bands from Canada, its a hit and miss affair but I've added quite a few Popoff recommendations to my collection.

    • @jasonlindsay2429
      @jasonlindsay2429 Před 4 měsíci

      I was just thinking while watching this what Canadian bands came out that could be considered Hair or Glam Metal. Brighton Rock, Harem Scarem, and Slik Toxik come to mind as well as Lee Aaron's "Bodyrock".

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Před 4 měsíci

      Ha ha, I didn't know if this was a jab or not because... did I mention a single Canadian band?

    • @independenceltd.
      @independenceltd. Před 4 měsíci

      it's a canadian law that if you don't love, nor champion, every canadian band that ever lived, then you will lose your justin trudeau fan club membership and the taste of maple syrup will automatically become like arsenic to your tongue. you also receive a lifetime ban to every tim horton's.

  • @gwts1171
    @gwts1171 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Enuff Z'Nuff were great right up until they made the big changes a few years back. This is also an excuse for me to mention one of my favorite ever albums - T-Ride (self-titled). Also, I REALLY like the Dokken album from last year. It was my #11 album of 2023. Skid Row's "Subhuman Race" was a good time, too. I keep coming back to add more here. - Warrant "Dog Eat Dog" is their best album, in my opinion.

  • @AlexDizzys
    @AlexDizzys Před 5 měsíci +4

    In 1991 it was still going strong. Grunge took over in 1992 but by 1995 it was dead too.

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 Před 4 měsíci

      It wasnt dead by 1995. 1997 was the year it unofficially died. 1996 had Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, STP albums and AIC Unplugged. That year was the last hurrah.

    • @AlexDizzys
      @AlexDizzys Před 4 měsíci

      @@Chaz4543 Superunknown 6 times platinum, Down on the Upside platinum. It was dead. Remember Motley Crue st album went gold in 1994 and glam metal was dead by that time .

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 Před 4 měsíci

      @@AlexDizzys It was not dead by 1995. In 1996 all those albums had songs that were on the radio and MTV. They sold less than those bands previous records but they were still popular.

    • @AlexDizzys
      @AlexDizzys Před 4 měsíci

      @@Chaz4543 In fact, people didn't care if it was grunge or not. Grunge was popular in 1992-94. Kurt Cobain died in 1994 and grunge died with him.

  • @speedyfinalmile
    @speedyfinalmile Před 4 měsíci

    Great White has four good albums during this time. Hooked 1991, Psycho City 1992, Let it Rock 1996 and Can’t Get There from Here 1999.

  • @antonnee
    @antonnee Před 4 měsíci

    The Extreme album is truly a masterpiece. So disappointing that it didn't sell a lot more.

  • @holspa
    @holspa Před 5 měsíci +2

    And then we had very big records by AEROSMITH, VAN HALEN, MEAT LOAF, or DEF LEPPARD that still sold millones. Or BON JOVI.

  • @leonszyszkowski9895
    @leonszyszkowski9895 Před 4 měsíci

    Great discussion. Hair/Glam metal didn't go away and prefer the glam metal term but it just receded in my view. Some worthy mentions are Trixter with Hear
    Kingdom Come with Hands Of Time
    Phantom Blue with Built To Perform
    Saraya with When The Blackbird Sings.

  • @ciaranmeeks9431
    @ciaranmeeks9431 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was in grade 12 when the whole Grunge thing hit. Never seen anything like it before or since. One week people are wearing Poison and Motley Crue shirts, the next, flannel and Doc Martens. My friends and I were more into Anthrax, Megadeth, Metallica, and Slayer at the time but even we got into the fashion and the bands. I was a closeted Hair/Glam guy too (loved Danger Danger, Slaughter, Trixter et al) and took a lot of flak for it like a good sport. For about a year or so I think all of this stuff more or less co-existed for the most part, but by '93 Grunge/Alternative had fully taken over. About the only Hair/Glam bands to survive were G'nR, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, and Aerosmith. Personally I feel the whole shift was really due to industry machinations. For whatever reasons, be it personal, $$$, or industry politics, the suits decided that all of those great Hard Rock acts had to go, and they shot them down at the knees. It's no surprise in retrospect that ever since then popular music has become ever more tightly controlled and spoonfed to the masses from the corporate powers that be. That was the end game all along: find, exploit, and push a trend so big it wipes away everything that came before it, and then contrive and control subsequent followup trends until noone in the general public has any independence of taste beyond what's fed to them. Thus Grunge morphs into Alternative, Hip-hop and Boy/Girl bands come along and quickly merge with Alternative to become New Punk, and all eventually blur together to become the faceless, soulless mess that is modern Radio Pop. And as ever, only Metal and Prog continue to exist in their own worlds off in the musical hinterlands.

    • @sonusworld5357
      @sonusworld5357 Před 4 měsíci

      GNR & Leppard are Not glam

    • @ciaranmeeks9431
      @ciaranmeeks9431 Před 4 měsíci

      @@sonusworld5357 I get what you mean dude, and to be honest I'm not actually a fan of the words 'Hair' or 'Glam' to describe any of these bands either. But when you're trying to make a generalized point that largely encompasses that overall era of music, like it or not those are the terms most people associate with it. Doesn't matter to them if it's Poison or Dangerous Toys. Bon Jovi or Kik Tracee. Its just an easy way of communicating in broad strokes.

    • @sonusworld5357
      @sonusworld5357 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ciaranmeeks9431 What am trying to say is bands like Van Halen, Def Leppard and Guns N Roses are Hard Rock bands, calling them glam is not done , even Whitesnake for that matter, though they were influenced by that scene a lot in the mid to late 80’s . What say ? Wrong categorization

  • @motley123rock
    @motley123rock Před 4 měsíci

    Great episode have most of the albums featured.

  • @roachman627
    @roachman627 Před 5 měsíci +36

    What! Hair Metal died? Nobody told me. 2023 releases Winger, Extreme, Eclectic Boys, Heaven's Edge, Hurricane, Wig Wam, The Defiants, Dokken, Sweet/Lynch, L.A. Guns, Lynch Mob etc.

    • @monkeyhouse1672
      @monkeyhouse1672 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Saigon Kick too!

    • @robfulton1307
      @robfulton1307 Před 4 měsíci +11

      There's no such thing as Hair Metal, it's Glam Metal at a push, I just call it Metal.

    • @Marvidsen1973
      @Marvidsen1973 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Amen! 🙌🏻🤘🏻🎸

    • @mickward7769
      @mickward7769 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​​@@monkeyhouse1672 not quite, but Jason Bieler is close enough right? ;)

    • @roachman627
      @roachman627 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I don't like that term either but that was the title of the episode. I just call hard rock or metal. @@robfulton1307

  • @LeatherRebel75
    @LeatherRebel75 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I'm surprised neither of you mentioned Van Halen. Both of their 90's Van Hagar albums did big business. I think that had they not split with Sammy, they would have continued to put out good material. It would have at least saved us from the Van Halen III debacle. Aerosmith also did really well during this time. Get a Grip came out in 1993, and it was huge.
    You can also count Slaughter as one of those assembled bands. Mark Slaughter and Dana Strum formed the band after walking away from the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, which can also be called an assembled band as well. I've always had a special place in my heart for Slaughter. Stick It to Ya was one of the very first hard rock cassettes I'd ever bought with my own money.
    I've heard that Damn Yankees did have a third album in the works, but the record label didn't want any part of it, and they paid the band to drop their contract. I also remember hearing stories back in the day that Damn Yankees tried to substitute Damon Johnson from Brother Cane in place of Ted Nugent.

    • @terrencereardon6374
      @terrencereardon6374 Před 4 měsíci

      Tommy Shaw and Ted Nugent clashed with egos and politically on opposite ends. Don't Tread flopped and was released when Alice in Chains' Dirt was released around the same time and trashed the competition, even Roger Waters' Amused to Death didn't stand a chance.

  • @micolsen9824
    @micolsen9824 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The ASIA reunion...
    Virtuositic melodic rock
    Phoenix, Omega, XXX
    2008-2012

  • @johann_casparbaumgartner6972
    @johann_casparbaumgartner6972 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Minute 17:46 Pete, you could not be more wrong: "After the third album: That was it for FireHouse!" Man, get you facts straight! America is not the epicenter of the world! FireHouse did continue to play in the nineties to HUGE Audiences in Japan, Thailand, The Philipines, India, Indonesia and Malaysia! Just because nobody reported in the US, so most people don't know, FireHouse continued to tour in a lot of states in Asia, for example a sold out show for 40.000 people in India! ( see wikipedia entry: *"The band's first Indian date, in Shillong when the Maharaja of Tripura Kirit Pradyot Deb Burman invited them, took place in front of a sold out stadium crowd of over 40,000, setting a record for that city."* ) I have myself seen couple of albums in Japan from the band I have never seen in the western world. And of course I've seen them being bootleged in Thailand, too, and only stuff that is popular there, will be bootlegged and sold on the streets.

  • @joeb2588
    @joeb2588 Před 4 měsíci

    Cinderella "Still Climbing" 1994. Absolutely Awesome. And how Wild Side's "Under the Influence" didnt explode is beyond me.
    Also QUIET RIOT didnt stop, they had a few albums in the 90' and Guily Pleasures in the 2000's

  • @ivitakops
    @ivitakops Před 4 měsíci

    I just discovered music from the band Firehouse and Jesse Strange. I guess they were not famous in The Netherlands. But great music!

  • @growlers90
    @growlers90 Před 4 měsíci

    Great subject guys. Agree “Hair Metal “ , if there ever was such a thing never died. I think at the time “Metal” had passed it’s zenith of NWOBHM and had become normal. As stated GnR and others changed their image to suit contemporary tastes but when Grunge hit I think labels couldn’t see past the “new” thing and therefore other established music was left behind, leaving legacy bands to carry the flag until the “new” music was absorbed into the general scheme of things. As Mr Reid says on UK connection, broadcasts of Rock music in UK was/is very arbitrary and unless you went to rock clubs or listened at home there wasn’t much alternative to the Seattle sound so unfortunately some excellent bands went I listened to 🤘🏻

  • @user-oq9mv8pc2g
    @user-oq9mv8pc2g Před 4 měsíci

    Impelleteri. Answer to the master. 94. Best hard rock album of the decade

  • @AndyTempleman-ot6lu
    @AndyTempleman-ot6lu Před 4 měsíci +1

    Stryper continues even today.

  • @carlwmpylu
    @carlwmpylu Před 4 měsíci +1

    Tyketto were unlucky. They had the songs, the musicianship, the look and - most of all - the wonderful voice of Danny Vaughn - However, their debut was left on the shelf for a year or so and they were essentially left on the starting block.

  • @kevinsmith7-7-7
    @kevinsmith7-7-7 Před 4 měsíci

    Any Genre doesn't Die it just goes Underground and you are seeing a resurgence of Hair/Glam for Nostalgia

  • @jasonlindsay2429
    @jasonlindsay2429 Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting that Pete brought up Ozzy at the end. That got me thinking of Zakk Wylde. He could be one of the artists that began with the hair metal scene and had an incredible decade in the 90's with Pride and Glory, his solo album, and the first Black Label Society album.

    • @independenceltd.
      @independenceltd. Před 4 měsíci

      ozzy was never "hair metal". neither were scorpions or judas priest. they poofed their hair up, softened their sound and wore makeup to get on MTV. but that usually lasted for one album before they came to their senses.

    • @Duality_of_Man
      @Duality_of_Man Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@independenceltd. ehhhh, I don't know man, Ozzy really leaned to Hair Metal a lot, I'd say The Ultimate Sin was reaching that direction, and then No More Tears was damn near fully blown Hair Metal...

  • @johnmichaelwilliams6694
    @johnmichaelwilliams6694 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Popoff and Pardo are at it again and I appreciated Martin's reminder in the chat discussion that these were the top 10 choices rather than random selections for examples. Lots of more recent names came to mind but when it comes to what might be favorites in this category, Martin and Pete covered most of what initially came to mind with Winger and Tesla being first in mind. Hair metal, glam metal, pop metal....call it what you will but it is a category still enjoyed personally and some unknown albums came up today by each so many thanks for those inclusions. As discussed late, creating content is difficult, but Martin and Pete always make it look easy with their seemingly endless musical knowledge. Viewing is always time well spent. Thanks for the episode gents. There ya go!

  • @jeffspicoli763
    @jeffspicoli763 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Great video! Did you guys discover that hair metal content gets clicks? I love it! Keep it up please. Maybe rank favorite hair metal singers, guitarists, albums, songs, lyrics, etc

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 Před 4 měsíci

    I agree that had George Lynch branched out from Dokken a little earlier Lynch Mob may have gained more traction.