The Doomsday Couple: The Unbelievable Case of Lori Vallow And Chad Daybell
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- True Crime: Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow disappeared shortly after the strange deaths of Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell. The widowed Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell would then marry, obsessed with Doomsday… Are they to blame for the multiple tragedies witnessed around them?
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00:00 Intro
00:39 Lori Vallow's history
02:48 Charles Vallow
03:39 The Vallow family
05:15 Meeting Chad Daybell
08:40 2019
09:20 The warning signs
11:26 The death of Charles Vallow
14:55 The disappearance of Tylee and J.J
17:47 The death of Tammy Daybell
19:10 The newly married couple
22:43 Finding Tylee and J.J
24:25 Tracing a ghost's footsteps
25:33 The Coffeehouse Verdict (Opinion)
26:58 Outro + Thank you - Zábava
I just wanted to give my wholehearted appreciation to all of you supporting this channel. It's growing so fast that I can barely keep up anymore, most of the time I am lost for words. Thank you! Here's hoping I can continue to entertain all of you with good service. This is the case of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, my longest case yet. I still can’t believe this story is a real one… For those impatient, the story begins to heat up at 09:20.
I subbed earlier this morning, you are flying sir!
Well Done son your doing great. Your channel is really really good. Well deserved ❤️
You're doing a great job with all these stories!!
Your channel and That Chapter are good youtubers. Yall sound like sherlock holmes explaining the crime
Adrian you are the man!!! Keep up the phenomenal work.
"She's a devoted mormon"
Her: *Goes through 4 marriages like it's nothing*
Devoted is not the word I'd describe her.
Devoted Moron*
Just what I thought!
Loads of Mormon men go through wives like kleenex, so she was on par with contemporaries - if you ask me lol
At least she had the good graces to not have multiple husbands all at once ; )
And killed her two kids (and husband)
Telling a woman you just met a few hours before that you’ve been married in 7 past lives is a pick up line i never thought I’d hear 🤦♀️😂
All hail saint elmo
It's how you attract the right candidate.
Like how Nigerian prince email scams are littered with poor spelling and grammar to weed out the intelligent recipients.
That is one hell of a confident power move.
Ugh right?! That fed her narcissism I'm sure. 🙄
@@emilybarclay8831 🤘🔥🤘
Update: She was given 5 life sentences without parole. It was breaking news, and I remembered this channel! Love this channel!
Genuinely one of the things that pisses me off to no end about this case is the fact that Charles _called the police_ and told them that he was afraid for his life and his kids lives because he was sure Lori was going to try and kill them. And like always, the police did _nothing._ They probably could’ve prevented most if not all of the deaths in this case if they had just done their jobs and listened to Charles.
Yep like they rather you be dead, then say Oh yeah. Ugh
How those people then sleep at night? Cause they're definitely get a hand on so many killed people with not doing a sht
yes... in SOO many of these horrific cases there were signs, and so often people DO try and reach authorities, and get help from those who are meant to keep us safe and uphold the law. but it seems the system fails us more than not. its actually terrifying. we have this false notion of safety in a modern world with "laws" and "law enforcement". but eventually in time of need, they almost always fail to perform as they're meant to. we're all just left to fend for ourselves.
I’m not saying it’s the case in this case, but sometimes, and I know this is crazier than the Daybells themselves, they are only legally allowed to do so much.
They follow a protocol; they do all those things (albeit sometimes not to the best of their ability or at full capacity which is what I think happened in this case in the beginning) & if “nothing is amiss”, they leave. they can do that over & over and “never find anything wrong” until something does happen and that DOES happen too often.
For example, if DCFS is called about some children possibly being abused or mistreated, they go (IF they go- DCFS is a whole other garbage monster tbh) and bring their little checklist and if everything checks out- they have food, a place to sleep and something proving they have fun, etc- they leave. A little of it is for liability purposes. Someone can call DCFS on a family they don’t like, just to try and get them caught up and in trouble and be malicious (I’ve seen it almost happen) to have their children taken away. I know that is rare, and it’s obviously deeper than that but I’m just speaking generally.
The best thing someone can do is call in a welfare check. But if, and solely based of LE’s judgement sometimes unfortunately, there is nothing amiss… what else can they do? Harass them when nothing might be wrong? I know it’s better to try and be wrong but I think it’s a liiiittle more complicated than just, “they shouldn’t done this” etc. but I will agree those cops didn’t do shit. and it’s a goddamn shame. but I also truly believe that all these victims’ unfortunate endings would’ve happened regardless.
@E Boston What is their job then? Why do we pay them rather than funding community services to improve lives, if they don't *serve and protect* ? 🤔
UPDATE: Lori and Chad were just charged with the murders of the children and Chad's ex-wife.
I READ THE NEWS TOO OMG
Thank goodness! I’ve been waiting for this!!
They’re going to try to figure out death penalty or life in prison and I’m sorry to say they need DEATH because they really thought they were doing something like they killed off people from both sides that’s awful
Saw the news as well !! 🙄
Beautifull. Fuck those psycos
Charles: She treatens me and is abusive
Police: Man up!
*Charles dead
Police days later: *cricket noises*
Edit: Just to clarify i dont think that it is an absolute when it comes to police and police work, also im judging this based on stories that come out to public, so no hands experience. Im also sure that its not like the police intentionaly ignores man, but same as there is a bias for alot of stuff in lifes of women there are cases like this where man do suffer.. services and sociaty standarts should be blind to what you have in between your legs
Sexism against men is only recently starting to get taken somewhat serious
This happens more than most would care to believe.
Lmaoooooooo right!?
well.... thats American Police...
fun fact it takes longer to get a drivers lisence in germany than to become a cop in Murica... let that sink in.
@@yokaboka not sure how you can compare one tiny insignificant country with many many neighbors very close to the greatest collection of massive United States that has 2 neighbors. You realize we have 50 states right? That's 50x more than germany.
Its very upsetting that the police did not find it suspicious that she threw a party a couple hours after her ex husband died🤦🏾♀️
Not at all. Might raise an eyebrow but just say that your husband wouldn't want to see you sad to whoever asks and it's all fine and dandy
@@dianah735weird hill to die on... he was shot by her brother, in her house just hours earlier. I'm not easily traumatized, but this wouldn't be a day for me to have a party.
I feel so so bad for Charles in this whole story. He had his whole world ripped out from right under him. And the police didn’t care at all.
Coppers were in on it….the fact they’re both in jail ( not prison ) should explain what went on!
@@beefchops1400 their in jail because they still need to go for trial
@E Boston it literally is
@E Boston their job is literally to help citizens. While they are not required to legally that is still their job.
@E Boston maybe ur husband should learn what his job was lol
why couldn't Lori just adopt an obsession of crystals and essential oils like every other aging beauty queen.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Inner pursuits don't fuel narcissm.
@@MsBizzyGurl it was a joke lmao
Shungite could have saved this family lmfao
For me ppl who were obsess with those things were very rude & full of themselves. (And Ik not all r like that)
The police failed SO HARD on this case! The fact they didn’t take him seriously and claimed he died in self defense... plus the poor kids... so heartbreaking.
No law enforcement agency could have prevented this level of crazy.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I mean they could’ve done a lot more. Maybe not have prevented it but this couple literally got away with murder and almost would have gone on to if the family of the kids not made a fuss about it. They had to take to social media to get attention on this case and only then were arrests finally made. There are moms who get arrested if their kids miss too many days in school but that woman’s kids dropped off the face of the Earth and no one bats an eye? Clearly a ball was dropped here and it was definitely the police who did it.
Cops seem to fall into a couple of categories, either they're useless and won't do their jobs, or they're corrupt and use their job to abuse. These cops fell into the former category.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I disagree. One of the *primary reasons* for law enforcement is to protect us from this level of crazy - to maintain order and peace. At the time that she left with all of his cars, his assets, and his children without informing him and locked him out of his house it should have became an issue warranting police involvement. First of all, depending on whose name was on the vehicle titles and how the money she took was stored (his bank account or a joint bank account), she could be charged with theft regardless of if they are married for taking a car that legally didn't belong to her and accessing a bank account that she was not authorized to access. Furthermore, at the time she took the children, both he and her had equal custody of the children. To remove them from the home without telling him, take them to an undisclosed location, and deny him the ability to access his children to which he has full legal custody is a crime and can actually amount to kidnapping/abduction charges - not to mention the cause for immediate concern for the welfare of the children. I feel like the police could have done a lot to intervene and prevent some of this crazy but they didn't - they failed, sad to say.
They really did. Typical cops.
Just an update for anyone watching this:
Lori and Chad Daybell were charged with first-degree murder in connection with the deaths of Tylee and JJ. They have both pleaded not guilty on all counts, and they face the death penalty if they are found guilty. Charles Daybell is also charged with an additional count of first-degree murder in the case of his late wife Tammy Daybell, whose body was exhumed after authorities began searching for Tylee and JJ in 2019. Lori is also charged with conspiracy to commit murder in Arizona in connection with the death of her former husband, Charles Vallow.
Authorities maintain that Lori’s brother, Alex Cox, died of natural causes.
Lori and Chads joint trial is scheduled for April 2023.
thank you for this!
Thank you 😍
Interesting information - thank you so much for sharing. 💐
Great information. One can only hope they are found guilty. At least from what I think after watching this video: they are guilty for sure. Responsible for so many deaths.
Another side note. She had two other sisters die of mysterious causes. One in 1971 and the other 1998. Death seems to follow her everywhere she goes. Maybe shes the one with the dark spirit
*10:10* I've watched the police body cams multiple times and its so INFURIATING. The responding officer who shrugged off Charles and thought he was crazy for being told that his wife had gone off the deep end, taken his children, and emptied his bank account should be held accountable and fired at the minimum. He's partially responsible for Charles death, and the kids. Pathetic.
yup. its this type of patriarchal culture of lds ("men cant be abused") that harms not only women but men too.
Yeah I've seen it too and at first it sounded odd like I couldn't understand what the dad was saying. And then when I heard him say that his kids are gone and he doesn't know where they are, his truck is gone, and his money's gone...I remember saying out loud, "how is he so calm?? I would be freaking the fuck out!" And I couldn't believe that the cops did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about it. That guy seemed to be the only one who cared for those kids...all of the deaths could have been avoided if the 2 psychopaths would have just left their families and run off together. They would have hurt the kids and spouses emotionally, but at least everyone would be alive wtf...
@@sofiabriones9221based on their inaction, I think it would be safe to say that if he *had* been distraught and pushed to have her investigated, they probably would've arrested him for being "belligerent"
Typical American police
@@E0O2X314FT you say that but those private security companies only ever look after their masters all around the western world as an example look at the Victorian SS in Australia (hint look for independent news sources and if you look at sky news australia keep in mind they are being paid to be opponents of the mainstream narrative in Australia)
Imagine killing children and then going on to think you're some kind of "enlightened" chosen one. What a bunch of bull.
hell yeah. how are people taken in by this bs? seriously... i just cannot fathom how absolutely fundamentally ridiculous fkin stupid you'd have to be. gripes!
Killing your own kids. Hayyy. 😔
Not a Christian, huh? 🤣
@@KrimetTStarKiller wow... damn
And what happened to his kids 🤔 didn’t he have 4
The police didn't believe him AND scolded him for "wasting their time"
...Wow
The US police is full of lazy idiots. They can't be trusted.
It just looked like she left him. Took the kids and left. That's not unusual or illegal.
@@Preservestlandry even if you’re the parent you can’t take your kids and go without both parents being okay with it. It’s still considered kidnapping. The police should’ve done something.
I literally said "wow" after I heard that statement
This is what confuses me. Why do police officers just get to nebulously say “eh it’s not worth our time” like aren’t our tax dollars going to them???
As someone who was also dismissed by cops in a very similar way (mine was due to physical and emotional abuse from my partner at the time. Cops said "Why didn't you punch her back?" "Are you not a man? Why are you making us waste our time on this?"), I'm beyond furious at how Charles was treated. Honestly, I'd go as far as say a good chunk of the responsibility for all the losses in this case lie on those cops' hands. They should've listened to him.
I can't stop crying thinking about Tylee, JJ, Charles, and Tammy. Two innocent children. Two spouses trying to love two sick, twisted people. That bodycam footage of Charles talking will haunt me. I am hearbroken and furious.
Single life is looking like the best course of action
After a broken marriage. I have never been more happy being single.
@@beetlejuice4357 say that again hun for the people in the back!!!!!! 5 years single and loving life!!
17 years and counting!!! The happiest years of my life!!!
I think Alex is the murderer!! Of the kids !! So very sad!!!
You have a wonderful voice!!!
I feel so sorry for her ex husband, he wasnt taken serious and Carles knew something was off he saw the red flags
Oh my gosh, same here. Every time I see the body cam footage of Charles talking to the police, it breaks my heart. Charles truly cared for Lori's well-being and she threw him away like trash. By all accounts, he was a good man.. 💔
I have been screaming about this all year it makes me crazy 🤪
"seems to be suss" ehhh, seemingly not in the USA
Yea it's something to learn from. If the police that come out are ignoring you, go to the station and make a complaint. There will be a record of it then.
If they still ignore you, you can move it up higher, etc.
Charles acted like a bully to Joseph, refusing to let Joseph see Tylee .....blocking Joseph at every point and moving to Hawaii so she couldn’t see her father even though he was allowed to see her ....making Joseph’s life hell ...even getting aggressive with court worker ? ...
All for the love of Lori ?
Please don’t paint him as a saint ......he took someone’s child away and denied access....very cruel
He didn’t deserve to die but this is sick ........
my heart breaks for Charles, he doesn't deserved to die like this..those police officers failed him big time.
a HUGE Mistake by the police.
"failed"
Yes 😢 popo not listen hold her on mental danger to kids
[UPD of UPD] On May 26, 2022, Judge Steven Boyce approved a motion to move Lori Vallow's trial to January 2023 to keep it conjoined with Chad Daybell's trial. The court approved the motion to move Vallow's trial from Oct. 11, 2022 to Jan. 9, 2023 to prevent an improper severance.
Edit to add new update: Lori Daybell has been found competent to stand trial and her trial has been set for October 11, 2022. Remains to be seen whether Chad Daybell's trial will be moved to join her. Fingers crossed.
[UPD] For anyone not following the case, here's how things stand at the end of March 2022:
Joint trial date set for January 2023, Chad has been arraigned and the state is asking for the death penalty. Lori Daybell has been deemed incompetent to stand trial so she's being restored. When she is back to competency, she will probably also face the DP.
Charges:
- Lori and Chad Daybell were indicted on the charge of conspiracy to commit first-degree murder and grand theft by deception for the death of Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow and Tammy Daybell.
- Lori and Chad Daybell were indicted on the charge of first-degree murder for the death of Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow.
- Chad Daybell was indicted on the charge of first-degree murder in the death of his wife Tammy Daybell.
- Lori Daybell was indicted on the charge of grand theft related to Social Security Survivor benefits over $1,000 allocated for the care of minors Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow that were appropriated after the children were missing and ultimately found deceased.
- Chad Daybell was indicted on the charge of insurance fraud related to a life insurance policy he had on Tammy Daybell for which he was the beneficiary and received funds after her death.
- Lori Daybell is charged with conspiracy to commit murder in connection with the death of Charles Vallow.
thank you for the update
@@joumanakalouch894 you're very welcome
Hope they see the 'LIght' reflect of a guillotine as it comes down on them
Yes, thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to provide an update.
Police ignoring Charles's pleas for help and leaving him for dead is so sickening to ponder
@Charmed Life I didn't expect police to protect him. I expected them to listen to him and investigate. That's what cops do.
@Charmed Life then wtf are cops good for? You just exonerated them from literally any responsibility, so what do police do exactly? Who else should that man have turned to?
@Charmed Life They aren't obligated to investigate, to serve or protect, or do anything at all, and so I am to look at this man crying for help and go "eh, they're police, it's not their job. He should have gone up to his neighbor or a random stranger, would've had better luck getting help"? Is that about accurate, the true worldview? So, someone who's in danger, like a stalker victim, may just be wasting their time by going to the police?
If you wanna let police off the hook on a technicality, go ahead, but I'm not that cold or indifferent. This guy did the most reasonable thing by going to the police, and neither duty nor empathy came to his rescue, and you are so very blasé about it. Dare I say, supportive of it, even.
@Charmed Life yes but you replied to my comment of police inaction being sickening, as though to retort against it by stating what police can technically do or not do. Your reply was as if to deny me my dejection. It is sick they ignored this guy whether or not they were within their right to do so.
@Charmed Life they had that condescending tone like they'd heard it all before and just wanted to be rid of the guy. "What is it this time?" I believe one of them asked. They were so apathetic. I just don't see what else he could have done. And if I or you were in a life threatening situation, what do we do?
Lori telling Charles' kids their dad died via text...wow.
Might as well tag them in a tweet, "Heyyy, your dad died, he loved you very much. Why don't you come over? There's gonna be a pool party!! love you xoxo"
You are vicious! And so very VERY RIGHT! 😉
That's almost how she wrote it anyways
Sadly so true
My sister sent me a picture of my niece dead on the floor, that's how I learned she died.
@@babble2leeza her kid or a third sibling's kid?
I'm not going to lie. I would be really interested to see how things would have played out if Lori wasn't as physically attractive as she was. Like clearly she is extremely narcissistic and even the way she spoke to the cops shows that she's cold but can quickly turn on the charm and use that to appear more like a victim in these situations. We say looks don't matter but I'm sure she was able to smile her way out of a lot of things especially to get men to do what she wants.
Looks definitely matter in how people are treated
In addition to the component of Lori’s physical attractiveness, I have to wonder how things would have turned out if all the people involved weren’t using religious beliefs as a smoke screen. Seems it’s a lot easier to get away with stuff as long as you tell people that “God told me to do it”. It’s sickening how often religion is used by selfish a**holes like Lori and Chad to manipulate, and harm people. Especially in America unfortunately 😞
You know what they looks can kill
She charmed the cops everywhere we went
Kinda makes me wonder if she was doing sweet home Alabama stuff with her brother. Her brother seemed so eager to help her murder and dispose of her own kids it feels like he was enticed or something. Or perhaps she paid him. But that's just a theory.
Update: Lori Vallow has been sentenced to life in prison without parole, thank goodness. May the victims rest in peace
News just dropped here in AZ yesterday that Lori is being charged in the death of her first husband as well!!
Can I ask a question 👋.. is there only ONE county in Arizona? Seems like a lot of stuff goes down in Maricopa
Good. I hope her cultish narcissistic fantasy pops and realizes what shes done. Nah, shes a narcissist...
@@jking9254 no, but Phoenix and all of the surrounding cities like Chandler, Tempe, etc are all located in that one county. That’s why most of the shit happens there, the majority of the population is concentrated there. :) thank you for coming to my social studies lecture. 🙇🏻♀️
@@trouaconti7812 Idk, I don’t think there’s enough paying for murdering your kids. 😔
Why and when did she kill her first husband??? How can a book changed a woman so much smh.
So sad when men (or women) who are stalked or feel threatened by a partner are not taken seriously. These situations too often end in tragedy. 😱
That's so true !
I agree it's a travesty that the police and the general public treat such reports from men with skepticism.
Especially in Australia
@@ariadneschild8460 i think it comes from how i think the number is like 20% of police officers end up being involved with domestic violence themselves....aka abusing their partners.
you end up asking for help from foxes about foxes in the hen house....
@@Butterflier00 that's true, police are people too, dv and misogyny is a huge problem but I still say it's completely crap that our society still shames and ignores male victims.
I really appreciate how you pay tribute to the people that have passed. It means a lot. Thank you for all you do.
If anyone ever says the words "God told me to do so" keep a very close eye and skeptic gaze on that person
yes, you’re right & my biggest mistake
These people who kill to "start over" are the strangest bunch in my head. Like, you could literally just leave.
Yeah, but what about the insurance payout?
Because they are so ultra religious especially in the lds church that they don't want another divorce
Also coz they just crazy 😜
it's simple imo: they just believe that reality is this warped idea that they have in their minds.. they think they can get away or whatever, coupled with an unbelievable sense of entitlement and narcissism.
John list maxxing
Right, their idea of starting over literally starts in prison.
That 911 call her brother made is so chilling. You shoot a man in self defense minutes ago and you're that cool calm and collected?? He's as messed up as Lori!
He clearly was. He had no issue attacking her ex husband (the one before Charles) and complied with helping Lori cover up the murders of her child and newphew. He was a messed up individual, or very easily manipulated. Either way, he met the same faith as the kids.
It really is chilling. So matter-of-fact. When asked if he'd go check on him, the way he says "Sure" is just creepy.
@@cade377 right?? And they let him go on the self defence claim... It makes no sense! Does that sound like a man who just had to fend off another man for his life? No accelerated breathing, no urgency, no fear.
Yeah, he doesn't sound the least bit upset
what's unbelievable is the police were like, "oh self defense, no big deal ,okay well have a great day "
It’s sad that Tylee was made complicit to her stepfathers murder because she trusted and believed her mother. And then her mother killed her.
So true … just watched the Netflix docu … Tylee showed no emotion about Charles death
@@kaydwyer6926 What’s the Netflix doc called?
Sins of Our Mother
New update: Lori has finally been found fit to stand trial. So heres to hoping that they'll be charged and sent to prison soon 😰
She is a huge narcissist. She uses people, men in particular, to stroke her ego. When Chad told her how "chosen" and special she was, of course she jumped right in. Even if it meant sacrificing her own children.
Don’t ignore that Chad sought her out - he clearly picked up that he could manipulate her through her narcissism. She did not start killing until after Chad showed up. If Chad didn’t want to be with her, none of this would have happened. Chad is the instigator.
the poor ex husband
Last I checked, she wasn't dxed with NPD, but is being investigated to see if she is clinically insane, though it is doubtful & believed she's NT. Words have meaning, and narcissist isn't a synonym for abusive, killer, or bad person. As someone else pointed out, Chad sought her out to manipulate her, and I've heard he attempted to place the blame solely on her.
@@tomorrow4eva
Ah yes, it's always the man's fault. He clearly forced her to do all that terrible stuff. Both of them are wrong.
And a murderer...
Man I can just picture the sister trying to protect her baby brother from all this madness.
Yeah 😪. By ALL actual accounts that I have heard, she was a very wonderful young lady, smart, kind, protective of her brother.❤️
Dont
No Tylee was killed round 2 weeks before JJ
@@mr.mcgurt2679 Horrible... poor kids.
@@sootchh4055 agreed, I hope they throw the book at them. Totally selfish and unnecessary, JJ had grandparents that would have taken him, Tylee was just about off to college.
Being in Rexburg when this investigation occurred was so surreal. Everyone wanted to believe that these kids were safe, but that's definitely not how it turned out.
For those wondering The mom, Vallow was charged in the deaths of Joshua “JJ” Vallow, 7, and Tylee Ryan, 16, as well as her husband's first wife, Tammy Daybell.
And have been found guilty on the death of the 2 children
I’m enraged by how long it took for those children to be declared missing.
"We've been married in 7 previous lifetimes" is my new horrible pickup line.
Thanks Chad!
Just be a cult leader, bro. You got this!
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 bro I already started one cult and then got kicked out by some people like 5 years older than me why would I want to do that again 😩 half jk
theMyofMy what is it about the internet that makes people share things no one else wanted to know?
a true chad
😂😂😂
Growing up the LDS church, I KNOW how wrapped up people can get. Charles was a convert to the church, and part of the problem Lori had was he was not as "spiritually mature" as she was. That alone sets off alarms.
My heart hurts for the kids, Charles, and their families. This shouldn't have happened. The fact that Charles was so easily shrugged off is beyond infuriating.
One thing I've always appreciated throughout your videos is your empathy and kind portrayal of the families and victims. You don't sensationalize and you always do a lot of research and make sure your ducks are in a row in every case. Thank you for educating us on these dreadful events so that we can learn, stay safe, and hopefully someday understand the sickness of the human condition.
I really like the way this guy reads . He isn’t acting or being dramatic and basically annoying, he’s just stating the stories as they read. Much better than someone sounding like a game show host
That chapter is another channel that is really good like this one
and he doesn’t lower his voice to try to make the story spooky too
@Sand Hanitizer I enjoy that channel as well but I think it makes it easier for some viewers to watch with some comical relief. Binging crime cases can effect people mentally so That Chapter is a good page for the softer folks
Star Acri, he really liked the way this guy read. This guy, he was reading things in a way that wasn't dramatic, or basically annoying. A gameshow host, they would not read well.
This is the first time I have really got into this case due to this young man's clear explanation. I have tried for months on other channels but without any luck.
The police were upset about showing up to the house? EVERYTHING HE OWNED WAS MISSING
So many innocent lives were taken ( Charles, Tyler, JJ and Tammy)! Those monsters deserve every ounce of justice that is headed their way! 😔
They grow old die jail. 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💜💜💜💜💜💜😢
Well, after I read the below comments, I found out that both Lori and Chad will have a court case in January 2023....for the murders of the children and Chad's wife....
thank you for covering this case...
Pictures of Tylee and JJ really show a lot of love between them. My heart hurts every time I see them. I hope Lori and Chad get the full force of the justice system on them.
I hope they are not show any mercy that's two cold blooded creatures !
Tylee seemed more like a mother to him than anybody else, and she was only 16.
That's probably why they were killed separately and not together; especially Tylee first. I would honestly lose myself if I was seeing someone harm my siblings, and try to fight for them with everything I've got. They were probably all they had those last few months the mom went crazy. :/
Them and Charles have seen no justice, and won't until Lori and Chad are dead.
Lori’s cheerful demeanor immediately following Charles’s death was ULTRA suspicious - amazing that the cops seemed unimpressed
The police fucked up in every way possible.
Smart people are not attracted to being a police man or woman. It's a profession that unfortunately draws people who want easy power. From my own understanding at least.
The cops in this story are useless if not just as creepy as her.
Oh I know. It’s very off that no alarming bells were ringing for them. Police officers are always good at picking up that kind of behavior. Any other police department would’ve thought how she was acting was strange and wondering why she was smiling after her estranged husband just passed away. But from what I’ve seen in this bodycam footage and the interrogation of Lori right after Charles passes away, they don’t seem very competent to me or the brightest police force. But that’s just me.
It should have set off alarm bells. However, another explanation is that people grieve differently, plus it was so soon after the death that she could have been in denial over him being dead.
You know, the old pickup line: "You've had 21 previous lives and 16 of them were on other planets." Works for me every time as well.
Thank you for this clear explanation of events. I was following this over the months but was getting too confused with so many crazy happenings and disbelief. I felt from the second those children were missing, that they were dead. It was a horrible feeling. It's hard to imagine people can be so cruel. I got sick of seeing that pathetic Lori Vallow's face. I hope they have the worst time ever in prison.
If JJ wasn’t her son, why not give him to his dad’s family. She didn’t have to kill him.
Because she was evil
Because she was evil and insane.
I think they truly believed that dark/light crap and thought he was dark therefore had to be gotten rid of :(
She prolly didn't want possessions of her ex hubby to go to the son.
Riligious nuts are dangerous
Yes, Lori is a horrible human being. But man, Arizona police are incredibly inept.
Police are useless all over the world 😏
It's too bad things did not work out with their juice bar on Cow Eye.
"Arizona police are incredibly inept." Unfortunately, that's an understatement! Crazy
@@fritzbasset8645 😂
I live here in Arizona. Your statement is much more true than you probably realize, especially in Maricopa County.
What has always galled me was the photos of the happy couple after their wedding. What a horrible story. I’ve seen a couple of documentaries about this, but always would get lost about halfway through. Thank you for presenting this in such a clear organized way.
I heard this story on another channel a few days ago and they left out so much that you included! Thank you! It's a lot easier to follow
if i had a nickel for every time something horrible could have been avoided if cops did their jobs... i would be a rich woman
Only you can protect yourself
@@rumble1925 Then what do we need police and law for? What do we need medical professions for? Just protect yourself from everything, it's not like we collectively live in a society or anything..
@@zzzindan lmao cmon dude you really cant be that dumb, can you? Yes, these cops are horrible and they deserve to be fired if not arrested because they essentially killed him by not helping him, but saying police "NEVER" do their job until its too late, based off of this ONE video? Just because theres a few bad apples it doesnt make the whole bunch rotten. Theres bad people in *every aspect of society.* Think about what you say instead of just latching onto some braindead, "woke-ist" ideal.
@@onemackerel138 we need them for justice and as a deterrent. Doesn't change the fact that you'd be dead or hurt if you don't protect yourself when they show up 15-30 minutes after an incident.
In the same vein, yes you should know CPR because we don't live in fantasy land where there's a medical professional around every corner
@@dookiefingers8436 idk man... you might wana look how much the police intervened in John Wayne Gayce, for that Zuzu guy, that one little boy who got tortured by his parents when police and CPS got called multiple times that they made that Netflix documentary for (his name slipped my mind), for the people who tortured Sylvia Likens, I can go on. Literally most of these cases is due to negligence.
Interesting how Chad didn't consider his own children to be "dark."
Early Mormonism thought this dark was reffering to just black people, but modern Mormonism had to clean it up a little
@@snowforest4159 eh its mainly interpretation like ive heard some nuts who think the reverse that wuhite people were created when the children of cain where exiled to the cacus mountains north of is rel.
thats the thing with humans you could show two people the same text and they will likely walk away with entirly diffrent intepretations of what it ment
@@wilmagregg3131 Yup - close to every form of literature is subject to a variety of numerous interpretations (mostly due to society). In fact, there are a few discussions on whether or not the author's intent in writing the piece matters.
@@snowforest4159 modern = 1978
@@snowforest4159 Most Mormons I know are still racist. I'm good friends with a mormon and some of the things he says annoy me. It's the mormon culture which really screws them up.
I love your channel, but cases like these just depress the hell out of me. As a grandparent, cases involving kids disturb me and I’ve cut way back on true crime. But your channel is very well done and is very respectful of the victims. Thanks so much for your hard work in doing these stories
The uniqueness about this channel is I've seen this story on lots of other platforms but the way he goes into depth is absolutely intriguing and amazing. Great Channel!
UPDATE: so both Lori and Chad have finally been charged with murder HOWEVER, Lori has been found UNFIT to stand trial so now everything is at a stand still...
this is as of June 2021.
Unfit!? That's just an excuse for getting away with multiple murders. Of course she's unfit.... as a human.
Part of me is not surprised after just finishing the video, the moment she bought into the book and the “ideology” of light and dark the woman became whacked out of her mind, it’s just sad that Charles jj, tylee, and chad’s ex wife was caught in the crossfire
@@rebeccav4478 unfit doesn't mean innocent. Unfit can be temporary, and can be tried at some point.
She is not walking around free. She would be in a psych ward in the prison
No one should feel like she's escaping. In all honesty, being detained as criminally insane means you'll be locked into a facility that is worse than prison and a lot of times you will NEVER get out, regardless of sentence. Most of these places are so bad that if you go into it sane, you won't be after a few years.
Chick card played
If they had been married in seven different lifetimes, imagine how many other inconvenient children and spouses they may have eliminated? 🖖🐢
🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮....🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢
That is a horrifying thought...
@Renegade Siha Sadly, I don't think logic, common-sense, critical-thinking or even more sadly, compassion, were high on their list of priorities. Fulfilling imaginary bullsh*t, was #'s 1 through 50.
The thing is, Chad claimed to have been married to virtually every woman he set eyes on.
@Renegade Siha Logic of religious nutcases, no clue of reality..
Great details! The only thing you miss was the attempted murder on Lori's Nieces husband. As her niece also named Melanie was very much into Chad and Lori's beliefs. Chad said her husband Brandon had turned dark. He had a million dollars insurance policy. SMH.
And yes they are both guilty of all the murders. So very sad.
Its crazy how long some trials take to get started 😳 They are just now in the process of jury selection for Lori Vallow. Chad Daybells trial hasn't been rescheduled yet. Last month, Judge Boyce decided that they would be tried separately and would not allow them to meet at all. They are also banning cameras, which sucks, I'd love to actually watch how this all plays out in court. Those poor children & the spouses 😭 What an ultimate betrayal for all of them.
Rest in peace Charles, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy. I'm so sorry the people you trusted and loved betrayed you the way they did
And don't forget how useless the cop's were.
Don't forget Chad's wife that died.
The fact that the police did not take him seriously for the threats makes my blood boil!!! Men need protecting too!!!
I am always infuriated by the police ignoring claims of abuse by men, as though men cannot be abused. It's ironic that we place so much emphasis on gender based violence, without any regard for the fact that these horrific acts happen to men also
@Leena Wexler That's literally the job description of a police officer. To protect and serve.
Unfortunately didn't happen in this case and too many others.
Wow...that was excellent. Thank you....now I finally can understand it all. Your coverage is the best I have seen. Watching from Australia.
I love your channel, man. Thank you for not jumping from topic to topic. You do good stuff.
Denying an autopsy is just one of those things that feels illegal. Unless when an in dept investigation into the occurence is made and maybe on religious grounds, depending how the body was found....
Well apparently it’s not, I’m gonna take a wild guess that you’re not a trump supporter
yall wildin in the replies 😩
@Mario ok someone dies. And its not an person or from an accident. If an authopsy is denied, im sorry but it makes me think foul play happened. And bpdy autonomy is pf course a right but there are certain things that can npt be done around a body and someones death.
@@chrishandsome4267 heeeeeeeeell no. Also, im not american. Portuguese living in england.
@Mario you don’t have to be so rude about it. English is a very challenging language for non native speakers.besides, it was probably just a typo
it’s always disappointing to hear the police being incompetent.
Disappointing but never surprising
rather enraging
Yea. Constant disappointments.
Its kind of expected at this point. Also I realized is universal. Like it happens EVERYWHERE.
Instead, they're very good at cuffing people for silly reasons or giving tickets.
Thanks for showing up on my feed as Lori’s trial is on its way. I’m praying for all the inmates she’ll be spending the rest of her life with.
Like your backgrounds of Coffee Houses! LOVE!!! Also, this is such a heartbreaking case! Thank you for the new details!
Oh heck yeah they did it. I remember following this, and when she said the kids "were in a safe place" I was certain they were dead. To Doomsday people, dead is the only 'safe'.
I felt the same way. It was heartbreaking.
Yup👌
the religious aspect is an excuse to hide their sociopathic ways.
@@AlbionRising or it could be a way for them to indulge in their psychosis.
Actually not doomsday people say this term but women seem to use if often as if an excuse to not admit what happened.
There's something profoundly comforting about that "Look after each other" that you say after every episode. In the midst of a global pandemic and so many other problems, there's nothing more important than us looking after each other. You're a lovely human-being and I love your channel immeasurably.
Regards
A fan from Johannesburg, South Africa.
Wonderfully said! ❤
Thank you for a coherent video on this couple. Please cover what came next.
Love your channel! Excellent job telling this detailed and sad story!wild!
Thank you for specifically pointing out that Charles was a good family man and was seriously disrespected by the police. JJ and Tylee are obviously tragic victims of Lori and Chad as well. Lori is currently claiming to be incompetent to stand trial, but I think her days of manipulating the authorities are now long past.
He was an incredibly good man. It shocks me that she would choose a freaky, homicidal loser like Chud over Charles.
I can understand why the police couldn’t help him in regards of Laurie draining their joint accounts and changing the locks since they are legally married at the time and nothing Laurie had done was illegal, but to have the police quickly dismissed Charles claim that Laurie threatened him and that he was fearful of his life is just not right, especially when Charles was killed shortly after. If the police couldn’t help Charles at the time, the very least they can do was taken his murder more seriously instead of believing the whole “self-defense” argument from the very people that Charles originally warned the police about prior to his death. The police’s inaction regarding Charles death was just shameful and ridiculous.
That Chad guy has such a fist face. Like, when you look at it you just want to introduce yourself with your fist.
The Germans call it backpfeifengesicht: a face in need of a punch.
@@MsKathleenb outstanding
U cracked me up !
He will get those in prison.
"Fist Face" 🤣
another excellent video always a lot of detail lot of work gone into producing them.many thanks
This is something that always upsets me about the justice system.. They usually always favor the woman, and barely ever believe the man. My heart breaks for Charles, and the police just shrugged him off.. Those poor babies
When your partner starts thinking he or she is some resurrected being appointed by God to wipe out evil or something to that effect, RUN.
*the church of latter-day saints disliked that*
Haha 110% correct
Wrong. This case isn't about some cross-eyed cult whose followers become zombie morons. No.
It's all about MONEY and the sheer greed, selfishness and evil of some people to acquire it at all costs.
When you buy insurance, NEVER, EVER tell your beneficiaries that they are your beneficiaries. Keep it to yourself as your own top secret. Do the same with your will.
There'll be a whole lot less murders if everybody did this.
or maybe tell him/her that she was your wife/husb in 7 previous lives to get on their good side y'know!
@@Mario7p I'll say that's a joke, but I'm kinda worried for you still.
Listen folks, when someone tells you God talks to them, run as if from a burning building
Barbara- God does talk to his Children ( the True Believers in Christ). They were listening to Satan and thought it was God. You have to know the difference!! A True Believer would never kill anyone.
I'm a Christian and Amen to that.
Burning building? More like a burning bush am I right? Sorry
@@isyeanneputri2045 lol, either/or. Arrogant narcissists who feel they are enlightened and gifted. These people are everywhere
So Lori and Chad was "true believers" wasn't they? Satan or not, it's the same BS thing anyway.
Over the course of history, "true believers" have destroyed 100's, 1000's and millions of lives. So to say that "true believers" wouldn't kill anyone, is infact wrong.
When we know that religious leaders of different religious ideologies, have blessed genocides and atrocites towards humankind. One can't argue that religious people can't do harm or act extremely cruel.
I was a witness to a horrible act from religious "true believers".
When my mother (@ that time was suffering from anxiety and deep depression), was a victim of two inexperinced deeply religious women performing an exorsism on her. I was @ that time only 8 or 9 years old, sitting just a few meters away watching them do this horrible thing to my mother. I heard how my mother screamd for forgiveness and crying violently when these monsters of religion, destroyed my mother.
I ran out to my dad, who was in the garage, fixing his car and couldn't hear what was going on inside the house. When I came out and told him what was going on, he ran inside, did the only right thing to do with monsters like this. That's the only time in my life I saw my dad get physical and violently angry with people. What my dad did to these 2 monsters was super-hero stuff:)))
He ran inside, with NO hesitation grabbed both of these christian monster-devils by the hair and dragged them thrue the house and SLAMMED them hard onto the concrete floor, infront of the front door. It had to hurt aloooot lmao...It wasn't a soft drop, it was a hard SLAMM:)))))))))))
He then grabbed each of them one @ the time, by hair and the waist of their pants and literally threw them down the concrete stairs outside. There was several steps of hard concrete stairs before they hit the ground. He did this to both of them. While on the ground oof'ing and crying after being thrown several steps of hard concrete steps of stairs he said "and you will never return or see my wife or family again".
He closed the door gently not to frighten me and patted me on my shoulder and he hugged me. Before going inside to comfort my mum. She was sitting there on the sofa, crying violently and still screaming. Because of this, she tried to commit suicide several times.
My mum died at the age of 50, from cancer and she never recovered from her anxiety and depression. GOD?? nowhere to be seen, of course, GOD is a lie!!!!!!!!!
So when these religious monsters(aka true believers) showed up @ her funeral, my dad paused the priest, stood up, walked over to these two entitled devils and escorted them peacefully out of the chirch, closed the church door, sat back down and calmly told the priest to continue.
WHAT A FUCKING SUPER-HERO, what a fantastic role model to my son. If I could be half the man my dad was, I would be fantastic.
My dad died peacefuly @ 72 years old, with his entire family arround him, both foster kids and grand kids.
He and my step mother (who I loved dearly) both in their 60's, helped refugees and 14 or 15 foster kids.
They took in 3 brothers, (the youngest one was only 5 years old), who had lost their parents in car accident. So if someone was good hearted and loving, it was my foster mum and my dad.
If there's a GOD, I think GOD will see it wize to kneel before my dad, because I don't think GOD will stand any chance there. My dad will grab him by the hair and throw him down the stairs if he misbehave.
I'm an atheist, of course:))))))))))))))))))
I learned that I'm my self closest and I don't need a monster GOD, to guide me thrue life, I know what's right and wrong.
So then to read what you wrote here "A true beliver will never do harm to innocent people" is such horrible monstrous lie. Of course they will, it's a certainty they will. They are religious people. They truly believe, that they are better then everyone else, because of their fantasy and delusions of grandeur.
GOD is a lie and religion is such a satanic way to indoctrinate people into that lie. I have a free will and I have my GODS, my GODS and super-heroes are my Father, mother and step-mother.
And with this I don't need religious morality to tell me to not do harm to others, I KNOW THAT.
I'm really uncertain if religious people have the same moral compass and knowledge.
one of the things I love most about how you go about telling these stories, among many other things, is that you tell a very coherent story of the sequence of events that led to the unfortunate consuquences. rather than just a crime tale, we get an arguably more fascinating one of what "turns people murderers". in a way. I find that many of your videos have a deeper message, they tell a cautionary tale of horror, sequnced with red flags we all ought to know better.
in this case, the way you carefully took time to describe her life as she slowly tumbled deeper into religion, to the point of no return, where it stops being just a healthy practice and begans to consume you, is so crispt and comprehensible. it makes us easily be put in their shoes, because you showed a previous life where they were too, normal, like us, and then slowly, not. we all can run into the wrong sequence of unfortunate events and led astray. we all can be manipulted into a terrible state of mind. these are important situations to be aware of. to know yourself better than what others can convince you to become, or what life will try to break you into.
Two of your videos have a direct impact on me. I literally used to live under the south-bound flight path of Sea-Tac airport when Beebo stole the plane and I've lived in Rexburg, ID since March 2019.
Just listen to Alex how he replied “sure”
When he called 911
so obvious It wasn’t self defence
I'm always so amazed at how chill these people are when they call the cops. This dude was just like "Yeah sup!! I shot my Brother in Law... Sure!!! I can check if he's still breathing."
I stepped on a snail once and I was more sorry...
@Mario adrenaline would make you act the opposite of how he was acting. He was calm, adrenaline gets you hopped up.
yeah, how on earth did they write that off as self defense without suspicion!
@@peachylady one time i came home and my house had been burglarized. I remember calling the cops and saying "Yeah! Someone broke in. Haha, my stuff, it's gone!!!" in a really conversational way. I guess no one really knows how they'll react to panic.
@Mario yeah... his voice was calm, no hint of any emotion, it's like he was talking about the weather.. I don't think adrenaline was in his system there
Excellent recap of a incredibly layered case.
Although I've seen coverage of this story before, I learned a few new things. Great work.
This case makes me so mad. Completely unfair to those kids ,ex husband and ex wife. This world makes me sick. As the show Daria said “Sick sad world”.
I still use this quote to describe the fuckery I see on the news! Cheers!
In other news life sucks and braindead religious fanatics are Part of The course
It's not the fault of "the world." Keep the blame where it lies - with the sick INDIVIDUALS.
The world itself is not bad. Don't make the mistake of allowing the media to distort your world view. Bad things happen, yes, but great things happen also. Don't ever forget that.
"The authorities" really dropped the ball multiple times.
They always do this , especially with cases of stalking.
They just eat our taxation, and eat donuts until go nuts
Thanks for sharing on this one… I remember reading about it, so strange and without explanation…
i like how this channels shows a lots of pictures unlike lots of other channels.
Great presentation 👍
I get so frustrated when I read/hear about cases where the police ignore a man who says his wife/gf is dangerous or has threatened them. You would think by now they would know to take ALL threats as serious and not just the ones they deem "plausible"
Exactly! Especially since, as a group, their judgment has been abysmal so frequently.
Cops only care if the man is dangerous, women aren’t seen as dangerous
"ignore"
Light and Dark. Lori is definitely Dark level 6. A Zombie herself.
Charles Manson, Bundy sociopath level this one!!
she certainly has a zombies IQ level
@@wilmagregg3131 😂💀
why do people even listen to this bs? they get taken in by any old crap... good grief...
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Good job 👍
You explain things very well. 👌
I love when you tell a story I’ve heard before, because I’ve never heard it told by you.
5/28 She was just found unfit to stand trial. Just feels like a complete slap in the face to her children’s memory. She seemed perfectly understanding when she was joking 20 feet from her estranged husbands body.
Lol l even saw in another video that they even had a party that night later, how is that not suspicious. And she told to his sons through text that their father died
12th April- just found this video/heard about this person today and it turns out that only yesterday she was deemed fit to stand trial- she will be facing justice.
not surprised, good looking blonde white females seem to get away with anything in the land of freedom
She was just declared competent to stand trial today
A big oak tree and two ropes are all you need to solve this problem.
Thank you so much for speaking so sensitively about the loss of Charles. I've had the same sense- that the tragedy of his loss so often gets buried under the deaths of the children. It's almost as if there's so much tragedy in this case that it can be difficult to fully comprehend all the loss...not merely of the innocent lives which were ended, but also the loss & grief still so keenly felt by the surviving loved ones.
It's amazing just how much horror can be left in the wake of so few people.
Agreed 100%!
I just saw a social scientist talking about a study which found that each murder massively affects the lives of *at least* SIX surviving people...at least! And that many of them don't ever recover from the trauma. I love any videos that don't lose sight of the unspeakable tragedy brought about by the losses of Charles, Joseph, Tammy and the poor kids JJ and Tylee, because they do all too often get lost in the madness and drama of this whole crazy case.
May their memories be a blessing to all who loved them.
And may Lori and Chad see justice in this life.
Love your storytelling 🤩 Thank you so much for your work. This case is so horrid, they really created an apocalypse for their whole family didn’t they 😰
These stories are so terrifying but at the same time the way it's been narrated is so smooth it almost brings me confort
Yup
I just don't understand how SO many people that are connected familially or romantically can die or go missing in such a relatively short period of time and it takes as long as it did for law enforcement to go "huh that's kind of an odd coincidence!" It's kind of disappointing.
Problem is that police are usually overworked (and underpaid) and tend to only see what's right in front of them, don't have access to all the relevant information plus this case is complicated by the murders being committed in different jurisdictions.
"The two had a child together, a son named Kobe Bryant."
HEUWHAA??
Oh, Colby Ryan...
Doing a PowerPoint presentation on their case for my criminal justice class this helped out a lot keep up the good work 🙏🏽