Or him saying in trucks it's great if you have a camper shell, even though the camper shell would obstruct the camera (as it's mounted on the center high mounted stop lamp).
Same with cooled rear seats. I’ve noticed Doug is slow to pick up on when certain options are becoming more common. I remember about 4ish years ago Doug was still saying heated rear seats were rare, even though vehicles like my dad’s ‘08 suburban had them.
11:50 is exactly why I hate piano black plastics and screens everywhere in cars. All of those scratches and fingerprints just ruin the look, and I don't want to be wiping the screens down every time someone uses them
I was exactly thinking the same when I saw that. I really hope the industry moves on rather quickly from the piano black plastics. We see a lot more open pore wood treatment these days, which is very nice. You would think that the industry can do better than that piano black plastics.
I would love to see Doug do a comparison on some vehicles between the highest trim & the mainstream or base trim level. I’m sure it would be logistically challenging, but I think it would make for interesting content on this kid of vehicle or full size trucks where there’s a large delta between the regular person trim & the highest.
too much work ... slap a doug score on it ... generate money from youtube ... keep rolling (misrepresented a car/brand due to trim level ??? ... whatever ... screw over the company and keep going ... it's the american way ... god bless america)
When the battery is “depleted”, all of that 375HP is still available - a portion of the battery is reserved to run as a hybrid even when the battery for electric mode reads “
In the wrangler 4xe, the 17KWh battery makes about 15KWh available for all electric driving. The remainder is reserved for use as a hybrid. In the gauge cluster, you can view real-time power output from both electric, and ICE power. Acceleration even when on a “depleted” battery shows heavy output from both, and the acceleration feels no different. Not sure what would happen if you repeatedly made hard pulls without allowing time for regen braking and the engine to charge the reserve battery, but under normal driving conditions, power has always been there when I call for it
We’re getting 40km on a charge (sorry for the KM, Canadian here). To and from work every day all electric - not a drop of gas Monday to Friday. We also took it from Ontario to Florida without stressing about where to charge- just fill up the tank as normal, and it runs like a regular old hybrid. If your commute is reasonable, Plug in hybrids really nail best of both worlds, with more HP and torque than the v6 alternative
The first thing any reviewer should say about this vehicle is that it's been about a year since Jeep announced the GC 4xe's imminent arrival, yet so far Jeep has managed to build virtually none for actual customers. They're now gearing up for the 2023 4xe while the promised 2022 MY is still basically an empty garage. It's weird to see reviewers pretend that anyone can just go out and buy this car right now. We all sympathize about the supply chain problems, but a conscientious reviewer should be very careful about endorsing vaporware, if that's what a car still is.
You could order in Dec 2021 base and Summit and Jan 22' for Trailhawk and Overland... and not a single one has been received by an actual customer. Im still waiting for mine... ugh
True. I ordered 2 4xe grand Cherokees first day of allocation opening last year. It went to D1 status (which is being built) back to BX status, which is “order taken but not approved”. Pretty ridiculous
I agree there, but unfortunately, it's the reality for practically every vehicle right now. We ordered my wife a 22 Wrangler Rubicon 4xe in March, while the dealer has had several random 4xe models come in, the one I ordered is still nowhere to be seen. I have a fried who ordered a Toyota Rav4 hybrid in February also still waiting. I'm not sure how some of these dealers are keeping the lights on frankly. The dodge places all have tons of trucks, but little else, and the Toyota and Honda dealerships here have 2 or 3 new vehicles on the lot and a couple used. No way that bankrolls 30 staff and the nearly new multi million dollar new dealerships they've all built in the last 2 years. Something fishy must be going on with the numbers for sure lol
@@alexmaclean1 Back orders and low inventory are not nearly as bad as zero production. I was lucky to buy a Telluride recently, even though many people have to wait 8-12 months for their factory orders to arrive. But still, many thousands of these vehicles are built and delivered every month. The Grand Cherokee 4xe is not slow going; it's no going! So far, the vehicle has been an empty promise.
Love you Doug, but that's not how PHEV works! You don't lose the electric motor's power when the battery "runs out" because it has not actually ran out. The range they quote is referring to fully electric driving, so once you run out of electric only range, the vehicle simply turns into a regular hybrid with the same amount of power.
Yep. You always have the power available, and it will always be a hybrid; charging when you slow down, using that charge when you take off. There isn't even a starter on the ICE. The electric motor always spins it up when needed.
I was going to say the same thing. It’s a hybrid. You always have the full power regardless of the battery level. It has a 15% reserve so the battery never goes dead. The hybrid system just shifts the power around to preserve and maintain the battery above 15% so you always have that power.
Have ‘21 wrangler 4xe and love it. Secret to getting great fuel economy (specifically at speeds 40+) is running in E-Save mode with battery in reserve. You’ll get 4-6 MPG better than rated. We’re currently getting 27 MPG using electric mode primarily under 40 MPH and e-save over 40 MPH
So does the powertrain turn into a hybrid once the full EV range is depleted? I can never find the correct explanation from anyone including jeeps website.
@@Nissart-su4mc for a wrangler absolutely (but understand it’s still built as an off-road vehicle with solid axles). I think the key difference the 4xe offers over traditional Wranglers is the added stability at speed given the battery packs lower the center of gravity, not to mention its a genuinely quick car. It’s not a luxury SUV the same way the GC is, but we’ve done several long road trips and it’s been fairly enjoyable on the road.
@Harlan Are you sure about the benefits of e-save? I have a '22 4xE and NEVER use e-save mode, and everything I've read about it seems to suggest it wastes MORE energy through gas (expensive) by directly charging the battery. I have no idea why there would be any need for anything other than the regular 'hybrid' mode, which automatically defaults to the best balance. It doesn't make sense that Jeep's engineers would want you to be constantly switching between modes in normal driving. And to answer the other posters: it is essentially a standard Wrangler with a bit more weight, which adds to stability/center of gravity. I wouldn't define it as 'comfortable' when compared to, say, a typical crossover SUV, but it's certainly enjoyable to drive and I've never had any ergonomic issues even on longer road trips.
The fact that the Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep group haven't figured out how to make reliable modern gasoline powered vehicles and are going to sell electric ones now is interesting... Beautiful car but let's see if their quality control department has gotten it's act together.
I remember the recall for the sun visors catching in fire because some moron put a screw through a wire. The whole Jeep liberty and early Cherokee death trap pets not forget about that engineering and NHTSA turning a blind eye.
1) SOOOOOOO glad to see a spare tire back there! not 100% sure if full size, but at least decently sized 2) also glad to see whoever put the spare together, lined up the dots like they're supposed to. What I'd really love to do, is be able to rent one for a couple days, and see how it would do towing what I occasionally tow with my Jeep Liberty.
Vast majority of Jeeps in Europe are diesels and it suits them better. Now most Jeeps will be hybrids in Europe. It’s an engine designed for us in the first place.
Just got a 23 GC Overland 4XE. This is my 4th GC. The new Gen is wonderful. I am so impressed with the ride and comfort. I leased mine for 24 months, wanted to make sure I like this concept, if good, I will get another one, by lease end. I ride around 80 MPH on a HWY commute to work, daily. You don't feel or hear anything and when my music is on with the 19 speakers around you, oooooooooo my, ooooo my. You ride in a concert. Good job JEEP.
@@MattBlack6 You could have just said that you have literally 0 knowledge of car reliability, Jeep is well above average. You're probably a fan of BMW.
As a Volvo XC90 T8 PHEV owner, I expected to watch this and gloat. But dang, that's pretty nice. I will say that the XC90 also will kick on the gas engine if you floor it in electric mode, and the transition from electric to gas isn't the most smooth all the time. If these concern you, don't worry, PHEVs are great and it really won't be much of a bother. So glad to see more PHEVs on the market!!!
The biggest issue surrounding PHEV’s, EV’s, and Hybrid’s is lack of FACTUAL knowledge. Any misinformation that starts spreading is extremely harmful to these vehicles and mass adoption. It is NOT TRUE that after 25 miles you simple have no battery assist and people we trust, like Doug, making statements like this (multiple times) is detrimental. The battery is not fully used up after 25 miles. There is capacity left and the vehicle runs like any normal hybrid and still provides its normal power. Please Doug, do your research before making statements like this!
Drove a new Grand Cherokee the other day (not the 4xe), and I have to say it’s crazy how nice they’ve become. Everything feels heavy and solid and not all plastic like the previous GCs.
@@jtsholtod.79 Correct, he has a genetically modified duplicate of himself who does the reviews for him, while the real Doug stays at home bathing in his C&B and YT profits
Doug, wrong on the car ever not having full power. Even when electric range is depleted, it still has all 370hp. I think you can force gas only using the esave button, but other than that will never be down on power. Also, bring back long form doug score
Exactly, PHEVs do not suddenly "loose" the electric power when theyre supposedly "Out of charge". A PHEV never lets the battery fully drain, and it can always be used as a regular hybrid even when its "empty". Its the continues power that gets reduced, but the burst power (which lasts for like 10 seconds, which is more than enough for the car to have gotten up to such speed the electric motor is useless anyways) is the same.
If you have ever driven one you would know this is 100% false, there is an obvious difference in power when driving one at 0% vs 100%. Yes if the battery is at 0% it will still act as a hybrid and start off using electric power only. However you DO NOT have full power when the battery is at 0%.
I have owned jeeps for many years and they keep getting better. The only Jeep disaster was my 2001 GC. It was at the dealer many times. Other than that, I have had fantastic experiences with the brand. Looking to get the Grand Wagoneer fully loaded. I hear good things about the hurricane engine but I love my Hemi.
@@garytryan the liberty is not a true Jeep. Same for the patriot. The only true Jeep’s were the Wranglers and Grand Cherokees. The others were biproducts imo. My friend’s daughter had a liberty and was great other than a tranny. Every automaker will have their bumps.
Yes I agree. I'm on my 5th Jeep GC (this one an SRT with the 6.4L Hemi) -- never liked a car better than this one (2019). I feel certain that the there is a top-of-the-line (Summit) 4Xe in my future but I hope they upgrade the power to about 400 - 425 total in the next two years when I'm ready to buy one. One thing Doug never mentioned -- the A-pillars are much slimmer in the 2022 re-design and do not block your vision of the road on turns. That is a huge improvement.
The new Grand Cherokee is an amazing Jeep. I will however point out the flaw of the PHEV concept that I have experienced on almost every PHEV I have driven. Given that the weight of batteries increases the overall weight, the mileage skyrockets, so expect less than 23.5 MPG when on ICE power only which is terrible for a turbo 4cyl. Aside from that, if the batteries are charged, the mileage is very respectable.
Sometimes the electric range is somewhat understated. Although my phev claims only 22 miles of all electric, I’ve been seeing 33-35 (during the summer). Winter is much closer to 25
@@davidlol1983we bought in spring 2021 and have since been on several road trips up and down the east coast. 15k miles total and lifetime average 140mpg
After a year of owning a Wrangler 4xe the powertrain is nothing short of fantastic. We have a tesla fast charger installed, and are experienced in optimizing battery range, and routinely get 1000-1500 miles (5-8 weeks for us) of city driving out of a single tank of gas. We enjoy the off roading and open air of the Wrangler, but putting the same power in a more comfortable and practical package is a fantastic idea and is bound to be as near-perfect as Doug says. Jeep has been nailing it!
26 miles on electric is pathetic. especially for all the hassle of charging it up. Not impressed. The interior does look nice however, although pretty scratched up already in places.
I guess it could be better since competition offers even up to 60. I don’t see how charging is a hassle. Literally as easy as charging your phone. Just plug it in when in store, work, home etc.
@@mikojarvinen6273 If you are charging your phone you know you are going to get a good few hours of usage. The Idea of having to go through the rigmarole of opening the boot lifting out the charge bag and connecting up the charge every day is tiresome for 26 miles of power. Maybe it appeals to some but not me.
@@roscohaines8508 Debatable. It’s considered a low emissions vehicle and it allows for massive tax benefits in my country. In other words if it was a V8 it would cost double as much as the hybrid. Also plug-in hybrids have great resale value meanwhile any other engine variant of the Grand Cherokee wouldn’t. For those reasons and because of EU emissions requirements it will also be the only engine available here.
I have a "Performance Hybrid" sedan that is 6 years old with V6 and a electric motor, combined has 370hp and does 0-60 in 4.8 sec. and gets 28mpg city, if I don't beat it. This Grand Cherokee is a great start for Jeep getting into the Hybrid technology. Really, all vehicles should have been Hybrid 30 years ago - this is very old technology and it's about time these manufactures are attempting to catch-up. Better late than never.
@@kalebm9302 Yes, I love my Q50 Hybrid. Luxury driving and 28mpg, when I drive normal and/or at the posted speeds, and no crazy fast starts. But when ya need da speed, it's there! Way faster than the non-hybrid - it's keeps door-to-door with the new Q50 Redline.
@@mikojarvinen6273 That's the excuse they used, "Demand". It really had way more to do with re-tooling and material cost. The demand has always been there for improved MPG and high-performance If they would have done the marketing.
Chrysler + turbocharger + hybrid/electric = Short time useful vehicle within warranty. The smartest thing there done was not integrate AC controls in the touchscreen infotainment unit so they can continue working when the system starts freezing up in a few months or years.
I love my Wrangler 4xe with the same powertrain. The hybrid battery doesn't ever fully deplete. It is constantly being charged and discharged as needed so you always have the full combined power of gas and electric available when you call for it. I will say that I'm pretty jealous of that interior. My 63k MSRP Wrangler interior is decidedly not luxury, but that's not what a Wrangler is about.
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I’m glad you got your hands on one. I’ve had a Trailhawk 4xe ordered since January, as have many others. To our knowledge not one non-FCA customer taken delivery of a Grand Cherokee 4xe in any trim level.
2:55, highly doubt that is correct. PHEV`s do not "loose" the electric power when the battery is supposedly "empty". At least if this is designed the same way as every other PHEV ive ever driven (which have all been European, American manufacturers might do things differently/dumber lol), the burst power will always be the same regardless of how full the battery is. People claimed to me that my 2017 BMW 330e would be slower when its not charged up as well, and they are 100% wrong. Same with the Ford Explorer hybrid, even tho its a PHEV it can always provide the 450 combined HP for a limited time, which is why its taking over for the BMW X5 in Norway as Police Cars. PHEVs electric horsepower is split up in "continues power" and "burst power" which usually lasts for 10 seconds. Its the continues power that gets lost when the battery is low on charge, but the car always have enough charge to supply the burst power. My 330e for example never lets the battery go under 12%, so it can always act as a regular hybrid and always have the burst power for acceleration.
This is exactly what I was going to say - once the battery is depleted enough, it should just behave like a regular hybrid, where it charges the battery from regen, or using the gas engine as a generator.
@Catholic Firefighter you think some people who can afford an 80k car were able to do that by throwing money away and not paying attention to what’s going out vs what’s coming in??? Not sure about you but I didn’t come from money, I earned every penny.
@Catholic Firefighter you sound slow. You also sound like a jealous man 🥱🤣🤣. I’m sorry you can’t afford an 80k vehicle. Some people can only afford the car because they don’t have to worry about gas and maintenance, did you think of that? I wanted a Range Rover but I knew I wouldn’t be able to afford it when I included gas and oil changes etc. Tesla on the other hand was more affordable because I don’t have to worry about those things. Get a life and stop sounding like a hater. You need to realize that not everyone thinks like you and you don’t know everyone’s way of thinking or what they can afford and why. So do yourself a favor and worry about why YOU can’t afford an 80k car. You act like everyone pays the same for gas and put the same miles on their cars annually. I do 20k a year on my cars so yes, gas matters. Thanks.
So, one thing Doug failed to mention is that once the battery is depleted and the 4cyl kicks in it rates at 23mpg combined. That's a terrible "hybrid" mpg.
Really think that Jeep shot themselves in the foot putting in a battery that only goes 25 miles. That’s not very far for the suburbanites who commute daily. 50 miles would be a lot better since it would cover most work commutes.
Jeep never intended anyone to use the electric range and they 100% know no one will either. The full electric range of the plug in hybrid powertrain exists solely to capitalize on government grants for electric vehicles and to get the rated fuel economy up. Real world fuel economy will obviously be terrible, I doubt it's going to be any better than a non-hybrid model.
@@skoolynugenator1802 - the next XC60 phev (2023 my) will have 50 miles of pure electric range. It matters more the size of battery they put in. The Grand Cherokee is a big enough vehicle to have a bigger longer range battery put in, but they just didn't do it.
But the Wrangler 4xe's which have the exact same drivetrain have been around for a while without major issues. No reason this won't be the same. Jeeps have risen in quality astronomically in the past 3 years, although the Grand Cherokees have historically always been very reliable vehicles.
Piano black in its glory at 11:43! This stuff scratches as you breathe on it and its a fingerprint magnet. Wish jeep offered a different choice of trim. Imagine this car 3 years from now.
This is going to be my next vehicle. I love my Ford Fusion Energi which is also a plug in hybrid. The only downside is there is very limited storage. The battery takes up about half of the trunk space.
Why is he so sweaty? Also, i love this vehicle. If Jeep can get that eclectic range up to about 50-60 miles, they will sell a lot more of these. Maybe by the 2024 model year.
270HP is about the output of the engine in a full size minivan, so I doubt that's the reason that they're not offering this with three rows. More likely is they want to see how well it sells before they go all out on different versions.
@@smwsmwsmw you do realize that vehicle ride height effects the entire thing. I have witnessed this live two vehicles with the same engine, one minivan and other suv, the minivan outrun it. Yes, the gearboxes were same and the minivan was heavier
I always liked this car. I still remember this King of Queens episode where Doug (not DeMuro) bought a Grand Cherokee, and I immediately fell in love with this car
Doug, At least on the Volvo T8 models, there is always reserve power that is unavailable to consume and is reserved for depleted conditions so 0-60 (and AWD availability) is never impacted. Also, when the electric battery is low, the ICE compensates and bleeds power back to the batteries, so there is never a performance impact. I'm unsure if it's the same on the Jeep, but that seems to be the common design. So the only real way someone could see a power deficit would be if they were full throttle for miles and miles, for example maxing out on the Autobahn. However, most cars have speed limiters so even that isn't a realistic scenario.
Continues power gets drastically reduced when the battery is low on charge, but the burst power is the same. So it is like youre saying, acceleration is the same regardless if the car is fully charged or not because it never fully drains the battery.
Recently rented one of these in Tampa, FL and was pleasantly surprised. I agree that the interior was excellent in look, feel, and layout. Not sure which trim level we had but it had black wood trim inside -- very slick. I couldn't believe it was a 4cyl, and I've had turbo 4cyl sport compacts in the past. The electric power really made a huge difference. I'd seriously consider getting one of these in a couple years when I'm back in the market.
The previous Grand Cherokee generation may have gotten long in the tooth for how long they made it, but it was SUCH a handsome design. This new body style just doesn’t come close.
Jeep is positioning itself as the American Land Rover with the insane levels of luxury, technology, & amenities they can give you for the money. And they're also equally mixed in terms of reliability, just like a Land Rover or Range Rover. I mean this new Grand Cherokee 2-row basically gives you the experience of a Range Rover Sport for way less money. A comparably equipped 2023 Range Rover Spot is close to $100k the way I configured it. It's around $97-98k which is insane for a Sport with the base engine. The top trim Summit Reserve of the Grand Cherokee 2-row is much more attainable in the $70k price range, especially with the $7,500 federal tax credit which makes this trim $67,500
Not really far too compare the Grand Cherokee and the new defender because the defender is supposed to be super luxurious because they wanted it to be more paired down and easy to clean if you use it to go off road and I doubt many people actually take their Grand Cherokees off road.
I think they did a very good job with this car. The interior is very nice, especially for the price. They didn’t cost cut where they shouldn’t have and I don’t think they excluded anything important.
I purchased a 2022 Grand Cherokee L Overland fully loaded in February and 6 months and 15 000 miles later is doing great. I wish the V6 was turbocharged but it does the job. I live in Colorado so it’s perfect for going snowboarding on the weekends. However for $70 000 sticker price there are things that are super annoying. Like the Mcintosh Soundsystem… Yes the sound is good and it’s very premium looking but at the end of the day it’s installed in a vehicle that starts at around for $40 000 in the lower trim levels. Which means every time I’m trying to listen to loud music the doors are cracking like crazy. Even when you listen to only 10 to 20% of the volume level you can still hear crackling. They had to somehow insulate the doors. The second issue is the vehicle doesn’t detect the proximity of the key fob each time. Sometimes even when you were very close to the vehicle the lights are not coming off nor the kick lift gate works until you press the actual physical button. The next thing are the mirrors. I preset them to fold every time when I look the car and to unfold every time when I turn on the engine but sometimes date do not unfold until I turn off and on the engine or switch on and off the mirror button on the door. The last thing is two weeks ago my sunroof stopped working so I’m bringing it today to the dealership to fix it after waiting for two weeks for an appointment. Customer service = no bueno! They don’t even offer a loaner or Uber ride or anything so I have to literally rent a car to drive while the jeep it’s in the shop. However I used to drive many other cool cars before the jeep I had Maserati Ghibli prior and it was super fun to drive but I love my Jeep! It’s a great SUV especially if you live in Colorado. Also it does 19-22 MPG combined which is great!
I stopped buying any Chrysler/Jeep products after my 2016 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk transfer case sized-up and had to be replaced at 50k miles of normal use. And the transmission was super slow to respond. And the "Programmed-in" accelerator delay was the worst - going from the brake to the gas was a full 2 second delay.
10:00 Missed the fact that it has privacy tint so the driver cannot see what's on that screen. Also because the driver cannot see what is on that screen, the passenger can have media (movies, TV, game console) playing.
14:50 - I suppose that would be one reason why Jeep doesn’t offer the seven-seat Grand Cherokee L as a 4xe model, though it’s possible there may be other reasons for this beyond the GC L possibly over-matching the powertrain once the electric motor is gone like Doug said if it were to be offered as a 4xe.
After 25 miles the electric motor is not gone. The vehicle simply turns into a normal hybrid. It keeps enough battery in reserve for this. The information Doug provided about this is wrong.
@@walkerl.9402 100% right. I was surprised that Doug got that wrong, he’s usually really good on the technical stuff. I’ve had a 4xe JL for a while and absolutely love the hybrid drivetrain. People get it wrong thinking about PHEVs as electric cars with gas range-extenders. They’re hybrids that happen to have an EV mode. When the battery gauge reads “0%”, there’s still a 2kwh reserve for normal hybrid function. You still get full 100kw from the EV motor with heavy throttle, just no driving on electric only. The reason they aren’t doing a 3 row 4xe is weight. The battery pack is heavy, and there simply isn’t enough payload capacity left for another 2 passengers and extra weight from the longer wheelbase to stay within GVW limits.
Yeah, he should issue a correction on that because people are going to spread this misinformation with "Yeah, I saw a video from Doug DeMuro and he said..."
Large three row PHEV SUV segment is under marketed. would love to have a huge SUV for the weekend and long trips, but don't want to deal with the weekday / daily commute gas penalty.
@@saturn9488 131000 on my 2016 3.0 X5 and never have had a major problem, just a loose ground at 115000 that effected the max AC cooling fan. I've tow a boat and have been to back country camps over a dozen times .
Thanks for the review Doug! I bought one recently although mine is is the 4xe base (limited) model w/ the luxury tech package and I have to say that my experience with its ACC hasn't been that good. The steering wheel barely moves (even on slight curves) to adjust the positioning of the car during HWY drives. The ICE makes too much noise when it is on E-SAVE mode makes you feel like the car is struggling to keep up. It is my first JEEP car and I must say that the overall quality of the drive has me wanting for more especially from a car that costs $65K
I totally understand that a 25 mile range doesn't sound impressive compared to battery electric vehicles. But you would be surprised to know just how many miles you can drive on the battery in real world usage. I have a 2019 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid, with a 16kW battery pack of which approximately 12kW is usable. Comparable in size to the battery in this 4xe. In the Pacifica, I get about 33 miles of range. My usage as a stay at home parent is shuttling my kids to/from school and then driving on the weekends for road trips or trips to sports. I average about 45 miles/day over the life of the vehicle. And I manage to drive 75% of those miles on electric. Given the $0.20/kwH and $5/gal gasoline it translates to $0.07/mi electric and $0.16/mi battery. The other benefit is that there are many "free" charging stations in my area, so it helps to drive down the cost per mile.
I’ve previously owned 2 teslas (3 & Y) and I think hybrids and phev’s are still the better choice for the masses. Better vehicles in that manner with more people would help a lot better than a small % using EVs. The Telluride is still better family car than the Cherokee. If Kia made any electrified version this will have no chance. This piano black needs to go with all brands
An electrified Telluride would definitely be a competitive. But to say the WL Grand Cherokee would have no chance is stupid. Grand Cherokee can pull more, drive farther, air suspension, semi-active dampers, better standard & optional stereo, and REAL offroad capability. The ICE Grand Cherokee's have better fuel economy too. Not to mention they both have the same standard safety equipment.
They are struggling to get these 2-row versions out to the public as it is now. Offering the three-row version would be that much more demanding. My guess is we see an L in 4XE with a slightly larger 4 cylinder in the next year or two once supply chains figure out what's going on.
@@btbcc12859 We test drove the L and then a 2-row GC, and you could feel the difference in the length and size. We liked the idea of a third row but decided that the extra length wasn't worth it. We currently have a 2013 jeep grand cherokee and the dimensions are pretty spot on for our needs.
Also important to remember... The 4XE starts at the Limited Trim. Gas equivalent Limited starts at $49,615 (4x4). This means that the cloth interior Laredo or blajed-out Altitude models aren't available! That's part of the reason for the big price difference between the gas and hybrid models. Andrew Lampart Commercial Sales Manager Shaker's Jeep
I really like how Jeep is slowly becoming a luxury brand, because they've always been known as the lower end brand. I am really starting to appreciate Jeep now. Definitely excited for this model!
I suspect that the batteries are placed where the 3rd row folds down - similar to the Pacifica which doesn't have stow and go seating in the hybrid. So, they can't do a 3rd row in the 4xe
The interior build quality on this Grand Cherokee looks like max 40K USD nice. And not 70K nice like the price of this one. It's funny that Doug finds the interior quality nice meanwhile other well known automobile magazines come to the same conclusion that the interior quality is nice but not 70K nice.
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The passenger screen (and rear screens, when equipped) can show movies and tv shows via streaming or with a connected HDMI cable from a phone or other device. To say it's gimmicky because it's the same as the center screen is just not true.
I think you meant the Jetta Sportwagon TDI. My other guess is the Touareg TDI cuz thats sort of a luxury SUV that everyone modifies and takes it off road nowadays. Trust me, i searched up "VW Touareg off road" and theres literally a lot of videos of people off roading and even overlanding the Touareg which is crazy!!. Same thing with the Porsche Cayenne!! And the Touareg looks way better than the Grand Cherokee.
I love how americans still don't get how hybrid cars work: it's OBVIOUS that it can't run just on electric power when you floor the damn thing! It's programmed that way because, in case of necessity, the car must respect the specifications it has been validated to have on the road. All the plug-in hybrid cars do that and it's, somewhat, considered a safety feature too (avoid collisions by accelerating). It can absolutely drive around the city just on electric power and that's what the pure electric mode is made for, not on the highway.
I drive 37 Miles on a single trip to work, and I imagine many other commutes are similar. Total distances on these electric vehicles must have increasingly further charge distances before interest in them is enough for a purchase.
Couldn't agree more! I have a 40 mile commute to work each day which takes me about an hour. Most people I know average 30-40 miles to commute to work. This hunk of metal is a gimmick at 23 mpg
jeep 4xe is exactly $7k more expensive than the corresponding gas model, so it is just something targeting the tax rebate and buyer an extra thing to repair and extra 500 lb to carry around.
Working at an Mercedes Benz, our hybrid GLE is only available in a 2 rower because the hybrid battery is enormous and takes up most of the cargo area which wouldn't fit the 3rd row seats
I love Doug presenting rear-view mirror screens like a brand new feature in every car review for the last two years!
Or him saying in trucks it's great if you have a camper shell, even though the camper shell would obstruct the camera (as it's mounted on the center high mounted stop lamp).
Now Doug needs a shirt of a review mirror with the words "Thiiis".
I dont I understand mentioning it but it is now veryyy known but he didn't even show the tail lights like cmon
im complaining to much he showed it for like 2 sec
Same with cooled rear seats. I’ve noticed Doug is slow to pick up on when certain options are becoming more common. I remember about 4ish years ago Doug was still saying heated rear seats were rare, even though vehicles like my dad’s ‘08 suburban had them.
11:50 is exactly why I hate piano black plastics and screens everywhere in cars. All of those scratches and fingerprints just ruin the look, and I don't want to be wiping the screens down every time someone uses them
I was exactly thinking the same when I saw that. I really hope the industry moves on rather quickly from the piano black plastics. We see a lot more open pore wood treatment these days, which is very nice. You would think that the industry can do better than that piano black plastics.
Would have to install clear pro on the interior plastics now lol 😫
My OCD went crazy when I saw that.
Yeah, that looked terrible. Preview of what every JC is going to look like in a few years, if not sooner
Yeah, I agree it makes it look nice but soooo impractical
I would love to see Doug do a comparison on some vehicles between the highest trim & the mainstream or base trim level. I’m sure it would be logistically challenging, but I think it would make for interesting content on this kid of vehicle or full size trucks where there’s a large delta between the regular person trim & the highest.
I like your suggestion. Often times the trim levels vary in a huge range of pricing and the value difference for the feature set isn't always clear.
Yes he would be the perfect person to point out every small difference, would love that content!!
What if I want cloth seats and 17" rims?
Piling onto this idea, DO IT PLEASE
too much work ... slap a doug score on it ... generate money from youtube ... keep rolling (misrepresented a car/brand due to trim level ??? ... whatever ... screw over the company and keep going ... it's the american way ... god bless america)
When the battery is “depleted”, all of that 375HP is still available - a portion of the battery is reserved to run as a hybrid even when the battery for electric mode reads “
Really?
@@georgec.6992 Confirmed - I'm a Wrangler 4XE owner.
In the wrangler 4xe, the 17KWh battery makes about 15KWh available for all electric driving. The remainder is reserved for use as a hybrid. In the gauge cluster, you can view real-time power output from both electric, and ICE power. Acceleration even when on a “depleted” battery shows heavy output from both, and the acceleration feels no different.
Not sure what would happen if you repeatedly made hard pulls without allowing time for regen braking and the engine to charge the reserve battery, but under normal driving conditions, power has always been there when I call for it
What's the range (if it sucks for long distance that vehicle sucks (and is the worst of both worlds))
We’re getting 40km on a charge (sorry for the KM, Canadian here). To and from work every day all electric - not a drop of gas Monday to Friday. We also took it from Ontario to Florida without stressing about where to charge- just fill up the tank as normal, and it runs like a regular old hybrid. If your commute is reasonable, Plug in hybrids really nail best of both worlds, with more HP and torque than the v6 alternative
The first thing any reviewer should say about this vehicle is that it's been about a year since Jeep announced the GC 4xe's imminent arrival, yet so far Jeep has managed to build virtually none for actual customers. They're now gearing up for the 2023 4xe while the promised 2022 MY is still basically an empty garage. It's weird to see reviewers pretend that anyone can just go out and buy this car right now. We all sympathize about the supply chain problems, but a conscientious reviewer should be very careful about endorsing vaporware, if that's what a car still is.
You could order in Dec 2021 base and Summit and Jan 22' for Trailhawk and Overland... and not a single one has been received by an actual customer. Im still waiting for mine... ugh
True. I ordered 2 4xe grand Cherokees first day of allocation opening last year. It went to D1 status (which is being built) back to BX status, which is “order taken but not approved”. Pretty ridiculous
I agree there, but unfortunately, it's the reality for practically every vehicle right now. We ordered my wife a 22 Wrangler Rubicon 4xe in March, while the dealer has had several random 4xe models come in, the one I ordered is still nowhere to be seen. I have a fried who ordered a Toyota Rav4 hybrid in February also still waiting. I'm not sure how some of these dealers are keeping the lights on frankly. The dodge places all have tons of trucks, but little else, and the Toyota and Honda dealerships here have 2 or 3 new vehicles on the lot and a couple used. No way that bankrolls 30 staff and the nearly new multi million dollar new dealerships they've all built in the last 2 years. Something fishy must be going on with the numbers for sure lol
@@alexmaclean1 Back orders and low inventory are not nearly as bad as zero production. I was lucky to buy a Telluride recently, even though many people have to wait 8-12 months for their factory orders to arrive. But still, many thousands of these vehicles are built and delivered every month. The Grand Cherokee 4xe is not slow going; it's no going! So far, the vehicle has been an empty promise.
Dude I’ve seen two of them in Alberta already
Love you Doug, but that's not how PHEV works! You don't lose the electric motor's power when the battery "runs out" because it has not actually ran out. The range they quote is referring to fully electric driving, so once you run out of electric only range, the vehicle simply turns into a regular hybrid with the same amount of power.
Yep. You always have the power available, and it will always be a hybrid; charging when you slow down, using that charge when you take off. There isn't even a starter on the ICE. The electric motor always spins it up when needed.
@20:40
I was going to say the same thing. It’s a hybrid. You always have the full power regardless of the battery level. It has a 15% reserve so the battery never goes dead. The hybrid system just shifts the power around to preserve and maintain the battery above 15% so you always have that power.
Have ‘21 wrangler 4xe and love it. Secret to getting great fuel economy (specifically at speeds 40+) is running in E-Save mode with battery in reserve. You’ll get 4-6 MPG better than rated. We’re currently getting 27 MPG using electric mode primarily under 40 MPH and e-save over 40 MPH
So does the powertrain turn into a hybrid once the full EV range is depleted? I can never find the correct explanation from anyone including jeeps website.
@@bmwmsport11 that's precisely what happens. If/when your battery shows
Is the Wrangler 4xe is comfortable ?
@@Nissart-su4mc for a wrangler absolutely (but understand it’s still built as an off-road vehicle with solid axles). I think the key difference the 4xe offers over traditional Wranglers is the added stability at speed given the battery packs lower the center of gravity, not to mention its a genuinely quick car. It’s not a luxury SUV the same way the GC is, but we’ve done several long road trips and it’s been fairly enjoyable on the road.
@Harlan Are you sure about the benefits of e-save? I have a '22 4xE and NEVER use e-save mode, and everything I've read about it seems to suggest it wastes MORE energy through gas (expensive) by directly charging the battery. I have no idea why there would be any need for anything other than the regular 'hybrid' mode, which automatically defaults to the best balance. It doesn't make sense that Jeep's engineers would want you to be constantly switching between modes in normal driving.
And to answer the other posters: it is essentially a standard Wrangler with a bit more weight, which adds to stability/center of gravity. I wouldn't define it as 'comfortable' when compared to, say, a typical crossover SUV, but it's certainly enjoyable to drive and I've never had any ergonomic issues even on longer road trips.
The fact that the Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep group haven't figured out how to make reliable modern gasoline powered vehicles and are going to sell electric ones now is interesting... Beautiful car but let's see if their quality control department has gotten it's act together.
I'm still amazed by the fact that people keep buying these vehicles despite it being not as reliable as even Ford
I remember the recall for the sun visors catching in fire because some moron put a screw through a wire. The whole Jeep liberty and early Cherokee death trap pets not forget about that engineering and NHTSA turning a blind eye.
This is a personal experience only but ive genuinely had the best luck with cars with jeep over ford chevy and dodge and even subaru
I wouldn’t touch this Jeep with a 10ft pole
@@jj_cars99 what do you mean even Ford? They are more reliable than Ram and Chevy.
1) SOOOOOOO glad to see a spare tire back there! not 100% sure if full size, but at least decently sized
2) also glad to see whoever put the spare together, lined up the dots like they're supposed to.
What I'd really love to do, is be able to rent one for a couple days, and see how it would do towing what I occasionally tow with my Jeep Liberty.
I’ve had to change one on a 4xe, they’re full size spares!
@@jkeep31895 niceeee
Interior is awesome. Well done, Jeep
@@westtexas.2238 Hah they still lack quality and reliability
@@IamJay02 not really, that’s mostly old Chrysler stereotype. I’ve had a 2017 Grand Cherokee Limited for 5 years with no reliability issues at all
Remember when Jeep tried to go Diesel with the gen 1 liberty... Pepperidge Farm remembers
My brother had 2
Vast majority of Jeeps in Europe are diesels and it suits them better. Now most Jeeps will be hybrids in Europe. It’s an engine designed for us in the first place.
The liberty was a piece of crap.
I’m a month into my 4XE and love it. It’s very luxurious and very spry. The 7500.00 tax rebate was nice too.
Just got a 23 GC Overland 4XE. This is my 4th GC. The new Gen is wonderful. I am so impressed with the ride and comfort. I leased mine for 24 months, wanted to make sure I like this concept, if good, I will get another one, by lease end. I ride around 80 MPH on a HWY commute to work, daily. You don't feel or hear anything and when my music is on with the 19 speakers around you, oooooooooo my, ooooo my. You ride in a concert. Good job JEEP.
A shockingly compelling package from Jeep, and no dumb mistakes like so many other brands are making. Impressive!
Exactly my thought as well, I was like: "Damn, that''s an awesome car, good job, Jeep!"
I would be interested if it had 40-50 miles range. 25 isn’t enough.
It's a pity that you know it'll shit itself before too long. Because that's what Jeep do.
Only real miss is the lack of rear seat folding from the trunk. I have that on my current car and it’s so useful
@@MattBlack6 You could have just said that you have literally 0 knowledge of car reliability, Jeep is well above average. You're probably a fan of BMW.
As a Volvo XC90 T8 PHEV owner, I expected to watch this and gloat. But dang, that's pretty nice. I will say that the XC90 also will kick on the gas engine if you floor it in electric mode, and the transition from electric to gas isn't the most smooth all the time. If these concern you, don't worry, PHEVs are great and it really won't be much of a bother. So glad to see more PHEVs on the market!!!
Plug in hybrid cars are very underrated. Definitely would buy one over a Tesla
The biggest issue surrounding PHEV’s, EV’s, and Hybrid’s is lack of FACTUAL knowledge. Any misinformation that starts spreading is extremely harmful to these vehicles and mass adoption.
It is NOT TRUE that after 25 miles you simple have no battery assist and people we trust, like Doug, making statements like this (multiple times) is detrimental.
The battery is not fully used up after 25 miles. There is capacity left and the vehicle runs like any normal hybrid and still provides its normal power.
Please Doug, do your research before making statements like this!
Correct. All plug-in hybrids still use their electric motors after the vehicle switches into hybrid mode, albeit in shorter bursts.
Drove a new Grand Cherokee the other day (not the 4xe), and I have to say it’s crazy how nice they’ve become. Everything feels heavy and solid and not all plastic like the previous GCs.
this guy seems like a good guy he should start a car bidding site
Maybe do some reviews on cars weird features and give it unique score
I’m thinking it should be called Automobiles & Auctions
He does. It's Cars and Bids!
@@brianlee9233 I'm pretty sure that's run by the other Doug DeMuro.
@@jtsholtod.79 Correct, he has a genetically modified duplicate of himself who does the reviews for him, while the real Doug stays at home bathing in his C&B and YT profits
Doug, wrong on the car ever not having full power. Even when electric range is depleted, it still has all 370hp. I think you can force gas only using the esave button, but other than that will never be down on power.
Also, bring back long form doug score
Exactly, PHEVs do not suddenly "loose" the electric power when theyre supposedly "Out of charge". A PHEV never lets the battery fully drain, and it can always be used as a regular hybrid even when its "empty". Its the continues power that gets reduced, but the burst power (which lasts for like 10 seconds, which is more than enough for the car to have gotten up to such speed the electric motor is useless anyways) is the same.
If you have ever driven one you would know this is 100% false, there is an obvious difference in power when driving one at 0% vs 100%. Yes if the battery is at 0% it will still act as a hybrid and start off using electric power only. However you DO NOT have full power when the battery is at 0%.
@@jjchockey According to Jeep engineers, you always have full power. Take it up with them.
I have owned jeeps for many years and they keep getting better. The only Jeep disaster was my 2001 GC. It was at the dealer many times. Other than that, I have had fantastic experiences with the brand. Looking to get the Grand Wagoneer fully loaded. I hear good things about the hurricane engine but I love my Hemi.
You have to research the engine and transmission for each model and year.
Had two liberty's that were a disaster. Jeep definitely has its problems.
@@garytryan the liberty is not a true Jeep. Same for the patriot. The only true Jeep’s were the Wranglers and Grand Cherokees. The others were biproducts imo. My friend’s daughter had a liberty and was great other than a tranny. Every automaker will have their bumps.
Yes I agree. I'm on my 5th Jeep GC (this one an SRT with the 6.4L Hemi) -- never liked a car better than this one (2019). I feel certain that the there is a top-of-the-line (Summit) 4Xe in my future but I hope they upgrade the power to about 400 - 425 total in the next two years when I'm ready to buy one. One thing Doug never mentioned -- the A-pillars are much slimmer in the 2022 re-design and do not block your vision of the road on turns. That is a huge improvement.
I hope your channel stays forever ! I really liked Saabkyles videos back then but he doesnt do car reviews anymore.
He actually has done a few recently
The new Grand Cherokee is an amazing Jeep. I will however point out the flaw of the PHEV concept that I have experienced on almost every PHEV I have driven. Given that the weight of batteries increases the overall weight, the mileage skyrockets, so expect less than 23.5 MPG when on ICE power only which is terrible for a turbo 4cyl. Aside from that, if the batteries are charged, the mileage is very respectable.
Sometimes the electric range is somewhat understated. Although my phev claims only 22 miles of all electric, I’ve been seeing 33-35 (during the summer). Winter is much closer to 25
What's your real world mileage that you get?
Is that with coasting? How hard do you drive it?
@@davidlol1983we bought in spring 2021 and have since been on several road trips up and down the east coast. 15k miles total and lifetime average 140mpg
@@jwalster9412 I don’t drive like an asshole
@@Greendile I guess the added range is the ICE acting as a generator, and the regenerative braking, that can be very useful in stop and go traffic.
Complex mechanical-electrical system from Dodge and Fiat, can't see what could possibly go wrong there.
It’s Chrysler not dodge. Dodge is a brand that makes cars.
After a year of owning a Wrangler 4xe the powertrain is nothing short of fantastic. We have a tesla fast charger installed, and are experienced in optimizing battery range, and routinely get 1000-1500 miles (5-8 weeks for us) of city driving out of a single tank of gas. We enjoy the off roading and open air of the Wrangler, but putting the same power in a more comfortable and practical package is a fantastic idea and is bound to be as near-perfect as Doug says. Jeep has been nailing it!
26 miles on electric is pathetic. especially for all the hassle of charging it up. Not impressed.
The interior does look nice however, although pretty scratched up already in places.
I guess it could be better since competition offers even up to 60. I don’t see how charging is a hassle. Literally as easy as charging your phone. Just plug it in when in store, work, home etc.
@@mikojarvinen6273 If you are charging your phone you know you are going to get a good few hours of usage. The Idea of having to go through the rigmarole of opening the boot lifting out the charge bag and connecting up the charge every day is tiresome for 26 miles of power. Maybe it appeals to some but not me.
@@roscohaines8508 It’s appealing because electric is nearly free while gasoline is $10 a gallon in my country.
@@mikojarvinen6273 The price of the car is not worth the savings made of 26 miles of electrical power.
@@roscohaines8508 Debatable. It’s considered a low emissions vehicle and it allows for massive tax benefits in my country. In other words if it was a V8 it would cost double as much as the hybrid. Also plug-in hybrids have great resale value meanwhile any other engine variant of the Grand Cherokee wouldn’t. For those reasons and because of EU emissions requirements it will also be the only engine available here.
I have a "Performance Hybrid" sedan that is 6 years old with V6 and a electric motor, combined has 370hp and does 0-60 in 4.8 sec. and gets 28mpg city, if I don't beat it. This Grand Cherokee is a great start for Jeep getting into the Hybrid technology. Really, all vehicles should have been Hybrid 30 years ago - this is very old technology and it's about time these manufactures are attempting to catch-up. Better late than never.
High power AC inverters was very expensive until recently (and still is but less so).
Performance hybrid, Infiniti Q50s hybrid?
There just simply wasn’t enough demand. Now there is. At the end of the day manufacturers needs to make a profit.
@@kalebm9302 Yes, I love my Q50 Hybrid. Luxury driving and 28mpg, when I drive normal and/or at the posted speeds, and no crazy fast starts. But when ya need da speed, it's there! Way faster than the non-hybrid - it's keeps door-to-door with the new Q50 Redline.
@@mikojarvinen6273 That's the excuse they used, "Demand". It really had way more to do with re-tooling and material cost. The demand has always been there for improved MPG and high-performance If they would have done the marketing.
Chrysler + turbocharger + hybrid/electric = Short time useful vehicle within warranty. The smartest thing there done was not integrate AC controls in the touchscreen infotainment unit so they can continue working when the system starts freezing up in a few months or years.
I love my Wrangler 4xe with the same powertrain. The hybrid battery doesn't ever fully deplete. It is constantly being charged and discharged as needed so you always have the full combined power of gas and electric available when you call for it. I will say that I'm pretty jealous of that interior. My 63k MSRP Wrangler interior is decidedly not luxury, but that's not what a Wrangler is about.
Big fan of the design and overall package, great job Jeep.
*Ikr, finally a Jeep worth buying that I still won't buy because Jeep is, you know ... CHEAP.*
@@cyberImperfection 75k cheap...
@@7cougar0 Agreed. 75k is definitely not cheap. I miss the T/C on the EVs and the Hybrids.
@@7cougar0
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*Everything good? .. good!*
*With $75,000 USD, you would see me considering:*
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@Paul good thing it's a Jeep
I think the styling of this is perfect. They redesigned it to look the same but sharper. It has the perfect "american" suv look
Thank God it looks better than the Wagoneer 😂
Am i the only one who genuinely likes the grand wagoneer?
@@kaner12341 Idk. I kinda like the looks too.
the wagoneer isn’t really an offensive design. it’s pretty standard to be fair.
@@kaner12341 no you aren’t the only one. I too think it looks good
7:38 "but unfortunately it cannot make lane changes for you" tesla in the peripheral changing lane
I’m glad you got your hands on one. I’ve had a Trailhawk 4xe ordered since January, as have many others. To our knowledge not one non-FCA customer taken delivery of a Grand Cherokee 4xe in any trim level.
It's technically Stellantis not FCA
2:55, highly doubt that is correct. PHEV`s do not "loose" the electric power when the battery is supposedly "empty". At least if this is designed the same way as every other PHEV ive ever driven (which have all been European, American manufacturers might do things differently/dumber lol), the burst power will always be the same regardless of how full the battery is. People claimed to me that my 2017 BMW 330e would be slower when its not charged up as well, and they are 100% wrong. Same with the Ford Explorer hybrid, even tho its a PHEV it can always provide the 450 combined HP for a limited time, which is why its taking over for the BMW X5 in Norway as Police Cars. PHEVs electric horsepower is split up in "continues power" and "burst power" which usually lasts for 10 seconds. Its the continues power that gets lost when the battery is low on charge, but the car always have enough charge to supply the burst power. My 330e for example never lets the battery go under 12%, so it can always act as a regular hybrid and always have the burst power for acceleration.
This is exactly what I was going to say - once the battery is depleted enough, it should just behave like a regular hybrid, where it charges the battery from regen, or using the gas engine as a generator.
We have a plug in hybrid X5 and it's great. You can drive weeks without using any gas if you're careful in a PHEV.
Nice. I love Bmw, I owned two 5 series in the past however I’ve been driving 3 years without using any gas in my Tesla. Just saying lol.
@Catholic Firefighter you think some people who can afford an 80k car were able to do that by throwing money away and not paying attention to what’s going out vs what’s coming in??? Not sure about you but I didn’t come from money, I earned every penny.
@Catholic Firefighter you sound slow. You also sound like a jealous man 🥱🤣🤣. I’m sorry you can’t afford an 80k vehicle. Some people can only afford the car because they don’t have to worry about gas and maintenance, did you think of that? I wanted a Range Rover but I knew I wouldn’t be able to afford it when I included gas and oil changes etc. Tesla on the other hand was more affordable because I don’t have to worry about those things. Get a life and stop sounding like a hater. You need to realize that not everyone thinks like you and you don’t know everyone’s way of thinking or what they can afford and why. So do yourself a favor and worry about why YOU can’t afford an 80k car. You act like everyone pays the same for gas and put the same miles on their cars annually. I do 20k a year on my cars so yes, gas matters. Thanks.
@Catholic Firefighter Why so bitter?
you know its a good day when Doug uploads! love how passionate you are and always will be about what you do!
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I feel so bad for the younger generations having to deal with these exuberant car prices, this is just ridiculous..
So, one thing Doug failed to mention is that once the battery is depleted and the 4cyl kicks in it rates at 23mpg combined. That's a terrible "hybrid" mpg.
Its a jeep my guy dont expect good fuel economy lol- a jeep owner
@@byrdland5790 then what is the point of buying this?
He was very obviously mocking Jeep drivers, but to answer your question; there is none. Don't.
@@skoolynugenator1802 it's a big SUV, high gas mileage was never the point
@@spacelobster6205 then why buy a hybrid version of it?
Honestly I just want this! It's best of all worlds! Luxury, fuel and electric! Plus the trunk space!!!! Perfect!!!
Got to say that I am glad to see all that wood (veneer/faux/whatever), especially molded into the steering wheel.
Love it!
Thisss is doug, doug has 100s of cars reviewed, he is an example of fun & productivity combo, be like doug hnut
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Is it me or did Doug cut off that Porsche suv at 21:26?
The Porsche was passing cars from the third lane lol
Really think that Jeep shot themselves in the foot putting in a battery that only goes 25 miles. That’s not very far for the suburbanites who commute daily. 50 miles would be a lot better since it would cover most work commutes.
Mercedes did better. Their PHEV version of the S Class can go nearly 3 times as far on battery alone.
It’s too big of a vehicle to go much farther for a plug in hybrid. The RAV4 Prime only goes 40 miles and it’s much smaller.
Jeep never intended anyone to use the electric range and they 100% know no one will either. The full electric range of the plug in hybrid powertrain exists solely to capitalize on government grants for electric vehicles and to get the rated fuel economy up. Real world fuel economy will obviously be terrible, I doubt it's going to be any better than a non-hybrid model.
@@skoolynugenator1802 - the next XC60 phev (2023 my) will have 50 miles of pure electric range. It matters more the size of battery they put in. The Grand Cherokee is a big enough vehicle to have a bigger longer range battery put in, but they just didn't do it.
@@wowdogeful my neighbor has the wrangler hybrid said she buys gas once a month or less.
Doug how many cars do you still have lined up to review? Seems like theres no running out
He has a lot more cars to review. In fact, there's a car that he reviewed last year that he didn't upload yet. Just shows how amazing his backlog is.
Still waiting for the Clio V6!
Given that he seems to review literally any kind of car, I think that there really is no running out.
About tree fiddy
Fantastic car - I would love one of these. PHEV is the perfect option for the next few years.
A Chrysler with a hybrid and gas turbocharged engine sounds like it's going to be in the shop, all the time.
fiat.
But the Wrangler 4xe's which have the exact same drivetrain have been around for a while without major issues. No reason this won't be the same. Jeeps have risen in quality astronomically in the past 3 years, although the Grand Cherokees have historically always been very reliable vehicles.
@@wesleymyers6906 it’s funny that most people that hate on Chrysler has never really owned one
Piano black in its glory at 11:43! This stuff scratches as you breathe on it and its a fingerprint magnet. Wish jeep offered a different choice of trim. Imagine this car 3 years from now.
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This is going to be my next vehicle. I love my Ford Fusion Energi which is also a plug in hybrid. The only downside is there is very limited storage. The battery takes up about half of the trunk space.
I owned the previous model and really liked it, i think this is the perfect follow up! Jeep is doing a great job :)
Why is he so sweaty? Also, i love this vehicle. If Jeep can get that eclectic range up to about 50-60 miles, they will sell a lot more of these. Maybe by the 2024 model year.
270HP is about the output of the engine in a full size minivan, so I doubt that's the reason that they're not offering this with three rows. More likely is they want to see how well it sells before they go all out on different versions.
You're ignoring the fact that the drag on minivans is low and they can do up with such small figures despite being heavier
That's not that far off from the Pentastar 3.6 that's powered Grand Cherokees and Wranglers for a decade. Load up a Wrangler and they get pretty slow.
@@sayyedameerarkhisro1464 Are you talking about aerodynamic drag? Are you kidding? Minivans have way more aero drag than a midsize SUV.
270 hp is not enough? What are you carrying? Oh right American people
@@smwsmwsmw you do realize that vehicle ride height effects the entire thing. I have witnessed this live two vehicles with the same engine, one minivan and other suv, the minivan outrun it. Yes, the gearboxes were same and the minivan was heavier
I always liked this car. I still remember this King of Queens episode where Doug (not DeMuro) bought a Grand Cherokee, and I immediately fell in love with this car
Doug,
At least on the Volvo T8 models, there is always reserve power that is unavailable to consume and is reserved for depleted conditions so 0-60 (and AWD availability) is never impacted. Also, when the electric battery is low, the ICE compensates and bleeds power back to the batteries, so there is never a performance impact. I'm unsure if it's the same on the Jeep, but that seems to be the common design. So the only real way someone could see a power deficit would be if they were full throttle for miles and miles, for example maxing out on the Autobahn. However, most cars have speed limiters so even that isn't a realistic scenario.
Continues power gets drastically reduced when the battery is low on charge, but the burst power is the same. So it is like youre saying, acceleration is the same regardless if the car is fully charged or not because it never fully drains the battery.
Recently rented one of these in Tampa, FL and was pleasantly surprised. I agree that the interior was excellent in look, feel, and layout. Not sure which trim level we had but it had black wood trim inside -- very slick. I couldn't believe it was a 4cyl, and I've had turbo 4cyl sport compacts in the past. The electric power really made a huge difference. I'd seriously consider getting one of these in a couple years when I'm back in the market.
The previous Grand Cherokee generation may have gotten long in the tooth for how long they made it, but it was SUCH a handsome design. This new body style just doesn’t come close.
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Seeing a new Summit next to the old generation makes the old generation look like a 15 year old bulbous blob. The new one is SO much better looking.
Jeep is positioning itself as the American Land Rover with the insane levels of luxury, technology, & amenities they can give you for the money. And they're also equally mixed in terms of reliability, just like a Land Rover or Range Rover. I mean this new Grand Cherokee 2-row basically gives you the experience of a Range Rover Sport for way less money. A comparably equipped 2023 Range Rover Spot is close to $100k the way I configured it. It's around $97-98k which is insane for a Sport with the base engine. The top trim Summit Reserve of the Grand Cherokee 2-row is much more attainable in the $70k price range, especially with the $7,500 federal tax credit which makes this trim $67,500
Not really far too compare the Grand Cherokee and the new defender because the defender is supposed to be super luxurious because they wanted it to be more paired down and easy to clean if you use it to go off road and I doubt many people actually take their Grand Cherokees off road.
True. But on a cost basis with a luxury brand it's a fair comparison.
I think they did a very good job with this car. The interior is very nice, especially for the price. They didn’t cost cut where they shouldn’t have and I don’t think they excluded anything important.
Awesome, looks as though he'll be reviewing the Mazda CX-50 soon. I've always wondered if I should go for the CX-5 or this one.
I wanted so badly to get one but I needed a car and already had to wait 4 months for my Forester. Saw one in candy apple red today and it's gorgeous
I work at Mazda they are both nice cars the cx50 is made to rival the outback so it’s like an suv wagon vs a crossover suv like the cx5
I just got my 4xe with $13k off on a lease. Crazy good deal on the 22’s right now.
I like how all the piano black/shiny garbage is already all scratched up. That's Jeep quality for you.
that's any press car w piano black. c'mon man
I purchased a 2022 Grand Cherokee L Overland fully loaded in February and 6 months and 15 000 miles later is doing great. I wish the V6 was turbocharged but it does the job. I live in Colorado so it’s perfect for going snowboarding on the weekends. However for $70 000 sticker price there are things that are super annoying. Like the Mcintosh Soundsystem… Yes the sound is good and it’s very premium looking but at the end of the day it’s installed in a vehicle that starts at around for $40 000 in the lower trim levels. Which means every time I’m trying to listen to loud music the doors are cracking like crazy. Even when you listen to only 10 to 20% of the volume level you can still hear crackling. They had to somehow insulate the doors. The second issue is the vehicle doesn’t detect the proximity of the key fob each time. Sometimes even when you were very close to the vehicle the lights are not coming off nor the kick lift gate works until you press the actual physical button. The next thing are the mirrors. I preset them to fold every time when I look the car and to unfold every time when I turn on the engine but sometimes date do not unfold until I turn off and on the engine or switch on and off the mirror button on the door. The last thing is two weeks ago my sunroof stopped working so I’m bringing it today to the dealership to fix it after waiting for two weeks for an appointment. Customer service = no bueno! They don’t even offer a loaner or Uber ride or anything so I have to literally rent a car to drive while the jeep it’s in the shop.
However I used to drive many other cool cars before the jeep I had Maserati Ghibli prior and it was super fun to drive but I love my Jeep! It’s a great SUV especially if you live in Colorado. Also it does 19-22 MPG combined which is great!
Wow!! This is my favorite Jeep Full-size SUV.
Great job with your content as always Doug.
It is mid size
I stopped buying any Chrysler/Jeep products after my 2016 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk transfer case sized-up and had to be replaced at 50k miles of normal use. And the transmission was super slow to respond. And the "Programmed-in" accelerator delay was the worst - going from the brake to the gas was a full 2 second delay.
I had to chuckle when Doug said someone paid over $100K for a Cadillac saloon.
10:00 Missed the fact that it has privacy tint so the driver cannot see what's on that screen. Also because the driver cannot see what is on that screen, the passenger can have media (movies, TV, game console) playing.
14:50 - I suppose that would be one reason why Jeep doesn’t offer the seven-seat Grand Cherokee L as a 4xe model, though it’s possible there may be other reasons for this beyond the GC L possibly over-matching the powertrain once the electric motor is gone like Doug said if it were to be offered as a 4xe.
I think one reason may be that the third row seat wouldn’t be able to fold into the floor, presumably the battery is under there.
After 25 miles the electric motor is not gone. The vehicle simply turns into a normal hybrid. It keeps enough battery in reserve for this. The information Doug provided about this is wrong.
@@walkerl.9402 100% right. I was surprised that Doug got that wrong, he’s usually really good on the technical stuff.
I’ve had a 4xe JL for a while and absolutely love the hybrid drivetrain. People get it wrong thinking about PHEVs as electric cars with gas range-extenders. They’re hybrids that happen to have an EV mode. When the battery gauge reads “0%”, there’s still a 2kwh reserve for normal hybrid function. You still get full 100kw from the EV motor with heavy throttle, just no driving on electric only.
The reason they aren’t doing a 3 row 4xe is weight. The battery pack is heavy, and there simply isn’t enough payload capacity left for another 2 passengers and extra weight from the longer wheelbase to stay within GVW limits.
Yeah, he should issue a correction on that because people are going to spread this misinformation with "Yeah, I saw a video from Doug DeMuro and he said..."
@@edgett 100%. Unfortunately, with newer vehicle technology like this, any misinformation holds a heavy weight and will sway people away.
Large three row PHEV SUV segment is under marketed. would love to have a huge SUV for the weekend and long trips, but don't want to deal with the weekday / daily commute gas penalty.
A decently specced BMW X5 xdrive45e is roughly 75k USD. And that one has an I6 instead of an I4.
And soooo much cooler!! 😊
It has worse reliability than a lawnmower, and plus a Jeep GC can actually go offroad.
@@saturn9488 131000 on my 2016 3.0 X5 and never have had a major problem, just a loose ground at 115000 that effected the max AC cooling fan. I've tow a boat and have been to back country camps over a dozen times .
I love how Doug includes a sneak peak to future videos, this case being a CX50 definitely excited to see his take
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Thanks for the review Doug! I bought one recently although mine is is the 4xe base (limited) model w/ the luxury tech package and I have to say that my experience with its ACC hasn't been that good. The steering wheel barely moves (even on slight curves) to adjust the positioning of the car during HWY drives. The ICE makes too much noise when it is on E-SAVE mode makes you feel like the car is struggling to keep up. It is my first JEEP car and I must say that the overall quality of the drive has me wanting for more especially from a car that costs $65K
I totally understand that a 25 mile range doesn't sound impressive compared to battery electric vehicles. But you would be surprised to know just how many miles you can drive on the battery in real world usage.
I have a 2019 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid, with a 16kW battery pack of which approximately 12kW is usable. Comparable in size to the battery in this 4xe. In the Pacifica, I get about 33 miles of range.
My usage as a stay at home parent is shuttling my kids to/from school and then driving on the weekends for road trips or trips to sports. I average about 45 miles/day over the life of the vehicle. And I manage to drive 75% of those miles on electric.
Given the $0.20/kwH and $5/gal gasoline it translates to $0.07/mi electric and $0.16/mi battery. The other benefit is that there are many "free" charging stations in my area, so it helps to drive down the cost per mile.
I’ve previously owned 2 teslas (3 & Y) and I think hybrids and phev’s are still the better choice for the masses. Better vehicles in that manner with more people would help a lot better than a small % using EVs.
The Telluride is still better family car than the Cherokee. If Kia made any electrified version this will have no chance.
This piano black needs to go with all brands
An electrified Telluride would definitely be a competitive. But to say the WL Grand Cherokee would have no chance is stupid. Grand Cherokee can pull more, drive farther, air suspension, semi-active dampers, better standard & optional stereo, and REAL offroad capability. The ICE Grand Cherokee's have better fuel economy too. Not to mention they both have the same standard safety equipment.
Americans are very lucky to have such beautiful car brands, American cars are better than many brands in Europe.
They are struggling to get these 2-row versions out to the public as it is now. Offering the three-row version would be that much more demanding.
My guess is we see an L in 4XE with a slightly larger 4 cylinder in the next year or two once supply chains figure out what's going on.
It's interesting how 3 rows are in demand but not many people use it.
@@btbcc12859 We test drove the L and then a 2-row GC, and you could feel the difference in the length and size. We liked the idea of a third row but decided that the extra length wasn't worth it. We currently have a 2013 jeep grand cherokee and the dimensions are pretty spot on for our needs.
Also important to remember... The 4XE starts at the Limited Trim. Gas equivalent Limited starts at $49,615 (4x4). This means that the cloth interior Laredo or blajed-out Altitude models aren't available! That's part of the reason for the big price difference between the gas and hybrid models.
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I really like how Jeep is slowly becoming a luxury brand, because they've always been known as the lower end brand. I am really starting to appreciate Jeep now. Definitely excited for this model!
I suspect that the batteries are placed where the 3rd row folds down - similar to the Pacifica which doesn't have stow and go seating in the hybrid. So, they can't do a 3rd row in the 4xe
Great video Doug! I just finished it
Great review! It's like you've done it before 😂 I actually traded in my Tesla to get the 2022 Grand Cherokee. Enjoy the luxury bits
3 out of 3 Doug! U r smashing it, finally! Yes, the rearview mirror becames a screen for the camera. Loving it
An absolutely beautiful design inside and out! Modern and truly luxurious with legit off-road and foul weather capability.
The interior build quality on this Grand Cherokee looks like max 40K USD nice. And not 70K nice like the price of this one.
It's funny that Doug finds the interior quality nice meanwhile other well known automobile magazines come to the same conclusion that the interior quality is nice but not 70K nice.
if range rover can charge more than this is a fair price
you don't know what you're talking about
Same thing with Tesla
That piano black on the console is a disaster. Look at the scratches all over it already.
added a digital rearview mirror to our 2012 Kia Soul . definitely very useful when car is packed with stuff/people
Definitely like it a lot better than the L... however, all of that scratched piano black is making me itch. Also, bring on the "SRT" variant, Jeep!
Great video Doug! I was wondering if you can make a video talking about Vinfast, the Vietnamese car company coming to America. Is that possible?
I'll bet that stereo sounds amazing thats an extremely high end brand for people who arent aware they make amplifiers that cost thousands of dollars
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Doug, what’s the chances you’ll trade your Land Rover in for this 4xe?
This is the first time I am liking a Jeep. Great design!
The passenger screen (and rear screens, when equipped) can show movies and tv shows via streaming or with a connected HDMI cable from a phone or other device. To say it's gimmicky because it's the same as the center screen is just not true.
I wanna see the trachawk version of this grand Cherokee so bad…would’ve been so nice
Thanks Doug as always! I’d love to see you do a 99-2003 era Jetta TDI, THAT was a quirky car!
I think you meant the Jetta Sportwagon TDI. My other guess is the Touareg TDI cuz thats sort of a luxury SUV that everyone modifies and takes it off road nowadays. Trust me, i searched up "VW Touareg off road" and theres literally a lot of videos of people off roading and even overlanding the Touareg which is crazy!!. Same thing with the Porsche Cayenne!! And the Touareg looks way better than the Grand Cherokee.
I love how americans still don't get how hybrid cars work: it's OBVIOUS that it can't run just on electric power when you floor the damn thing! It's programmed that way because, in case of necessity, the car must respect the specifications it has been validated to have on the road. All the plug-in hybrid cars do that and it's, somewhat, considered a safety feature too (avoid collisions by accelerating). It can absolutely drive around the city just on electric power and that's what the pure electric mode is made for, not on the highway.
I drive 37 Miles on a single trip to work, and I imagine many other commutes are similar.
Total distances on these electric vehicles must have increasingly further charge distances before interest in them is enough for a purchase.
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There are many people who drive less than 25 miles a day, or who drive 25 miles to work and have a workplace charger.
Couldn't agree more! I have a 40 mile commute to work each day which takes me about an hour. Most people I know average 30-40 miles to commute to work. This hunk of metal is a gimmick at 23 mpg
jeep 4xe is exactly $7k more expensive than the corresponding gas model, so it is just something targeting the tax rebate and buyer an extra thing to repair and extra 500 lb to carry around.
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Working at an Mercedes Benz, our hybrid GLE is only available in a 2 rower because the hybrid battery is enormous and takes up most of the cargo area which wouldn't fit the 3rd row seats