Spiritual Manipulation in Pseudo-Christian Cults: A Panel Discussion with Former Members
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- Spiritual manipulation in pseudo-Christian cults: A panel discussion with former members (Wendy Duncan; Doug Duncan; Molly Koshatka)
Religious cults depend on fear and intimidation to maintain their hold over group members. In order to manipulate followers, the cult leader is revered and group members believe that God has specifically chosen him and given him absolute authority. The cult leader’s claim that God has imparted a unique and special revelation justifies his existence as the leader and his right to exercise control. Members of pseudo-Christian cults are taught to accept the cult leader’s authority as divinely mandated. Any doubt or questions are quickly extinguished by the leader or the group culture that dismisses external influences that contradict the groups stated mission or vision. Through spiritual manipulation, the leader is able to obtain control over the devotees. The tactics of manipulation include the use of guilt, peer pressure, intimidation, ridicule, and fear. Over time, the cult member is deluged with fears of thinking independently, making wrong decisions, losing salvation, losing his relationship with God, experiencing extreme calamity if he leaves the group, and numerous other horrors.
A panel discussion of former members of pseudo-Christian cults will focus on the spiritually manipulative techniques employed by their former cults. The panel will focus on four primary areas:
Manipulative techniques used by leader(s)
The role of fear in pseudo-Christian cults
Obstacles in transitioning out of a spiritually manipulative group/religion
Reconnecting with faith after cult affiliation
As a victim of these monsters I have no compassion for those who protect the system rather than victims. They all the same. No compassion for them whatsoever. They are cowards, simple as that.
This is one of the ICSA best videos. Each of the panelists is fantastic. The moderator introduced specific topics and each panelist provided useful examples and insight. Women need support when they leave to replace the fake social structure and help repair mind control and abuse. My friend is still in a high control group. suggestions on how I can help her?
Get steve hasssan book:combat cult mind control. Good luck
Thank you Sandy for bringing up the topic of reconnecting with God after leaving a cult or high control group .
It's very challenging to find a counselor trained on this topic of spirituality after abuse.
I don't want to throw out the baby with the toxic bath water. I love Jesus and ultimately it was He who liberated me.
It’s malpractice to use imaginary supernatural entities in any form of therapy. I had a dear friend who slashed her wrists because of Christianity. I’m a heathen but I saved her life whike her 3000 member church and religious fanatic family ignored her for the 1 1/2 years she was in state hospitals. I drive 200 miles every weekend for a year and a half to be there for her. Not one Christian gave a damn. Buy those hypocrites say I’m going to their hell while they are going to their ‘heaven’. Anywhere they will be would be hell.
Texas doesn’t require standards for ‘spiritual counseling’. Anyone can do it because texas is ran be religious extremists. So malpractice is rampant in texas and other Republican states that force their sick cult on others.
I am from Croatia-Europe and I have been member of word of faith/new apostolic reformation cult. Here in Croatia people have no idea what is that and when I exposed them on ytube for spiritual abuse they sue me...that was a reason for my first and I hope, last panic attack when I have been hospitalized last year. I would so love to finish some education about these issues but we dont have something like that in Croatia. Also, I would love that some profesionals come here to talk about it. They are ruin my life, I almost commited suicide and my sister commited suicide 16 years ago in age of 24. This is real issue today and MUST be exposed in order to protect young people.
gah!! I've been out for 20+ years, and my recovery is no where near these people. But we all have our own process and journey
We can out of the IFB (Independent Fundamental Baptist, KJV only cult - St. Eustache, Canada) just over a year ago and we literally experienced 90% of what the panel spoke of. The irony is the name of the church is called Freedom Baptist.
Very happy to see we are not alone and very thankful this video is posted along with the channel.
It would have been really great if they had named the group they belonged to and gave a little history on the group and their basic beliefs.
Our cult-pastor would get up on the worship team rehearsal and glare at us: “There’s sin on the platform!” ... we were all teens and 20’s... and would just torment us with always wondering if there’s something rotten in us. SICK.
Well done folks takes courage. Thank God for sence of humour that can get you through at times
Yes, I have been hurt by pastors and priests. If they find out that you have been hurt by one man, you are likely to be hurt by the next because you are low hanging fruit and easy prey. Yes, there is no safe church and the truth is in God and a personal relationship.
Can a cult-pastor-guru be both a con man AND a believer in his own doctrines, simultaneously? Strangely, Yes. It is a part of their confusing and complex psychology and dysfunction.
They all are. Christianity is a cult.
My family operates just like a cult.
How so? Just curious
But have nassistic parents sorry to jear that
@@jonthompson7106 I don't know about Danielle's family but in mine, my father held very absolutist ideas about family values. According to him, the family was the best place for a child to be and he was the epitome of Wisdom and Goodness. Everything that happened in the family was automatically a good thing and people outside the family were considered suspect. So there was the us versus them and the black and white thinking that are found in cults, plus the worship of the leader.
I was a part of a cult as well I started a nonprofit to help many people to overcome this stuff.
How rude they interrupted that woman and then another woman talks in the middle of her story really
17:19 to 17:31.
"The Big Doctrin was: the message of the cross was what this man /randyness bomfridge/ and it was a real unhealthy focus on the death of Christ and how we are supposed to be fellowshiping with Christ in his death."
-- Thank you. This is why I'm leaving Christianity -- it is a deliberate and conscious flaw in the Nicene Christianity, and it is a cultic tool used by Catholic priests as well as reactionary Lutherans in the main stream churches. Nobody listen to them, but it makes me furious that they deliberately decontextualize the death of an essentially communist teacher and king-candidate in order to make themselves feel better in their moral based narcissism.
the 2nd lady in the middle sounds like she shared the exact same experiences i did. Sounds like she might have been involved in the cult i was a part of. I relate to everything (except for the physical abuse) that was said on the panel
There is a big difference between religions and cults. I was in a cult for about 7 years myself, I made the mistake of not ever going out to the headquarters to see if it was legitimate. Out there, in California, which should have been a red flag itself, they were worshipping the leader. The people would work 10 hours and then go to church another three hours a day, and they spent an hour for each meal, again, not that it took an hour to eat, but they worshipped the leader for about a half hour after they ate their meals. Really a bunch of messed up people, but all I heard were the highly edited tapes they were making. They edited out the really fowled up stuff before they sent the tapes out to the outlying fringe churches. Now I go right out to the headuarters before I spent any time or money in any religious persuit.
Ay homie, California isn't a red flag in itself 😒
Just read that Ole Anthony from Trinity Foundation died one month ago.
Leaving christianity/religion was the best decision I ever made! Almost 6 years now and I've never looked back.
"God" nonsense is so outdated! Why would educated person believe in that crap??
Because it's not about an intellectual knowledge issue, it's a spiritual issue. You can be extremely educated and yet fall for all types of stupid cons. Maybe less than less educated folks but it depends where their knowledge base is centered. For example, a PhD neuro surgeon may know little about nuclear fission reactor science. Doesn't menace their are stupid, just knowledge has it's limits. We as a communal species, there us a level of trust in "experts" in other fields than are own. Now we know religion has been used as a manipulative tool of control, just as government. Do you get rid of government then?. No, of course not. You expose fraud, expose manipulators, you educate everyone to have a healthy skepticism, etc. A Healthy skepticism! Too skeptical can lead to others manipulations. To be completely beyond even the ability of being manipulated one not only needs wisdom, intellectual skepticism, and spiritual strength.
Cults are evil ,creepy
story of my life
Sounds like they could have been in The Way International cult.
Do these cults insist on speaking in tongues
Is the doctor a Jehovah's Witness?
Love the accent
This sounds like Gospel assemblies Churches under (Souders) anyone know the name. Just sat threw my last 8 months in the (Birmingham /Springville Alabama Assembly under Clyde Ray Sharber listening to him and his yes men tell me I would lose my salvation over my goatee the whole standards thing also listening to hours of babbling (very unbiblical) it was always a known language not just babble and flopping like a fish bouncing off of pews having to protect innocent bystanders from bouncing bashing people never thought people would need to be protected by Holy Ghost filled people. Please study your bible KJV don’t just sit around and let them pour garbage in your ears if it don’t match the Bible it ain’t true. When the Bible was finished that’s it don’t listen to someone that says God told me,said to me,showed me etc... Told my life would fall apart if I didn’t follow along. Don’t let an emotional experience with God be your goal or Satan will give you one. God bless 🙏🙏🙏