Ethan Debates Oli London - Off The Rails #70
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0:00 Off The Rails intro
1:00 Steven Crowder is Still a Massive POS
16:30 Talking about Olie London
18:10 Ethan on The Writers Strike
22:04 Hasan vs Adin Ross - Hasan might win
33:45 Ethan Went Viral on TikTok
41:51 The Crew's Forbidden Topics
47:14 Ex-Incel Responds to Ethan
50:40 Olie London Interview Starts
2:38:00 After Interview Debrief & Discussion - Zábava
Ethan talking about Caitlin Jenner running someone over with a car
Ollie: 🧍♂️yeah so basically I’m writing a book
Cant wait for Oli's book about Caitlyn running over someone with her car
The emoji 😭😭😭
Yeah because it was stupid and irrelevant.
@@Dollparade321 it was hilarious and definitely relevant to bring up whenever Jenner is mentioned 💀
@Kirby3585 Can you explain how it was relevant?
i do think ethan has found a good niche here, him simply not caring about feeling uncomfortable gives him a leg over the other creators that do these kinds of debates
It's a very good idea with these type of people. Especially because they're whole thing is "facts don't care about feelings", so it only shows how hypocritical they can be lol
fr, its a huge advantage when you are (self admittedly) not a good debater. Ethan puts these clowns in such uncomfortable positions right off the bat you can’t help but love it.
LOL yeah thank god. Ethan has clowned himself before by using others to debate for him.
@@drewg2676 you mean the sam seder thing? the social cues you interpreted from that was ethan "clowning on himself"? lmfao
@@naterdawgg literally everyone said it was a clown move. I mean imagine telling someone to debate you and then you hide behind someone else lmao
That lunchbox bit felt like that scene from SpongeBob with Patrick's wallet:
"This lunchbox has a picture of you on it?"
"Yup."
"And you identified as a trans woman at the time when it was made."
"Yup."
"So this lunchbox depicts a person who identified as trans when the picture was drawn."
"That makes sense to me."
"You're selling merch with a trans woman on it."
"It's just a KPop star."
Losing it rn 🤣
YES
@@robdm9838 that’s not what Ethan’s saying at all. He’s pointing out the hypocrisy because yes, Oli is saying T-shirts like the ones that say “protect trans kids” with a knife but if you follow him even slightly you’ll know he would call out trans people as grooming if they had a similar product for children. I mean he was saying drag queens existing around children was inappropriate, yet him dressed as a woman on a children’s lunchbox is fine
@@TheHamsterLoverxExactly! Actually he was talking about how wrong the merch was until Ethan pointed out that it was actually his merch he was talking about 😂.
Dont insult Patrick by comparing him to this monster
😂😂 That's so true though. This dude's cognitive dissonance 🤯
Oli: kids shouldn't be exposed to trans people
Ethan: Here's you as a trans person on a lunchox and t-shirt for kids
Oli: 👁👄👁
“It’s a silly cartoon of a k-pop star” no Oli. It’s a white trans woman pretending to be a difference race 😂😂😂
Dumbest reach ever and anyone capable of logic knows it. NO kid is going to look at that lunchbox and think it depicts a trans person and neither would any adult seeing it without any context. The fact that Ethan had to cling to that weak ass talking point and keep using it as a diversion tactic shows how poor his understanding and research is on trans issues. He kept having to deflect and redirect the conversation because he couldn't respond to valid points that Oli made. And I'n not even conservative or anti-Ethan far from it, I'm just capable of using critical thinking unlike most of this audience.
@@SarahbearJayne and different person.. he’s not even trans.. if I remember correctly, that was his “Rosé London” phase after trying to steal Rosé from BlackPink’s identity.. so, obviously he’s racist and transphobic…
i just think its odd tho that alot of the "sexual" references ethan was mentioning just showed that he was trying to find the smallest things that symbolize sex In Olis kids merch. I feel like Oli was right throughout most of the first parts of the debate. Ethan comparing it to an aheago face? kids dont know about that, as they shouldnt.. theres nothing about the lunchbox that symbolizes transgender. Oli never said he had a problem with little kids looking up to trans people, which is why he didnt have a problem with kids going to PG trans shows. Oli has no influence on what children choose to like, atleast no where close as how their parents do, so if a little kid wants the lunchbox i dont think it would sway a child to choose their gender. He had a point, the kids merch wasnt sexual and his whole point was that kids being exposed to trans people is okay, its just bad when theyre exposed the the sexual part of it.
its as simple as if you think a little kid shouldnt get a tattoo then they shouldnt be allowed to choose such a life changing surgery
Oli clearly doesn’t like kids.
"youre gonna feel really bad when your next phase comes around and you realize you're being a mouth piece for hateful pepple" Artfully said.
ethan projecting
so true. especially the pepple part
So he’s admitting it can be a phase?
@@Vegangg what hateful people is Ethan a mouth piece for? Please explain.
@@YoohooitsSue1 I mean we all know Oli goes through phases. At one point he was “trans racial”. He then was a full on Trans woman. Now he’s somehow a hateful, right wing leech. Hopefully his next phase is a more tolerable one.
Ethan, I think we can both agree there’s only one person who can fix Oli London…
Terri Joe.
I need to see that interaction lmao
OH MY GOD PLEASE
I BEG FOR THIS COLLAB 🙏
PLEEEEEASE
Expel those demons
Ethan luring him in and then just berating him for 15 straight minutes at the end is so fucking funny. "Good talk." "You're a demon, bye." LMAO
Berating? I think Ethan was just asking important questions.
“you’re a demon” at the end was so funny 😭😭😭
😂😂
Its true, hes a soulless grifter making others lives worse for his own monetary gain. Some real evil demon stuff
Autistic trans person here. I reject Oli’s suggestion that autistic people don’t know what’s best for them. That’s what my dad told me 15 years ago; that as an autistic person I have no sense of identity and that me being trans is just a phase. It’s not. I have seen myself as a woman since I was about 8. I tried to get hormones at 22 but didn’t make it through the strict process at the time. I finally transitioned at 32, and it was the best decision of my life. Shame on you, Oli for using autistic people to further your disgusting, hateful agenda.
And I bet there's autistic people out there that genuinely do regret transitioning, you don't speak for all of them
I mean bigotry is never one type. I would be more surprised if his views on autistic people were any different, because from my observations, if someone's transphobic, there's a high chance they also discriminate on other groups.
I am so sorry that your dad was that way to you. I have two children who have autism and I do not understand this view that autistic people have no sense of identity. I am glad you were able to finally transition. I you have people around you who affirm you in the way that your dad couldn't. :(
I think for most people talking about this topic, it is a general misunderstanding of autism rather than malice. I see many people genuinely concerned that autistic people are being manipulated, but education and understanding are the only way out of any of this conflict.
@@macallan1010 I used to think that--it's just a need for education. But these people do not wish to be educated. They wish to hate, and the people driving the hate wish for power. Grew up on that side and they have not changed, just grown louder and more cruel. The only education they willingly receive is the education that teaches them to hate more.
ethan is the perfect blend of troll and ally and I know he's not perfect but his chaotic energy and ability to fuck with idiots is excellent and I love him for it
Yup!!
Nobody is perfect 🤦🏽♂️
@@ObesePuppies it’s an exaggeration. I know you’ve heard people say similar things before
gave you that extra like for 666
You just said it! The special reason I love Ethan and this show so much
Ethan: You’re right, we should make it free.
Ollie: *slow blinks*
Underrated based Ethan moment
I know I thought the screen was frozen but he was just speechless
That was so good, it’s like a good kind of awkward pause
@@screm7878 2:30:45
i legit laughed for like a minute straight from that, that was so good
Oli: Clinics are making millions from hormones and surgeries
Ethan: You are right we should make it free.
Oli: *WINDOWS SHUTDOWN NOISE*
Pretty sure this is an unpopular opinion amongst H3’s followers, but I’m with Oli on the minor debate. You can see in Jubilee’s Middle Ground on liberal & conservative trans that hormones are now easily accessible and the doctors don’t even find the need to have multiple screenings for one person in order to prescribe them the hormones, both people from the conservative AND liberal side agreed on that. It’s the same argument as how the left keep mentioning how easy getting a gun is in the US, on paper it seems that it has to go through a lot of screening process, but in reality it’s not as hard to get some.
@@imanis.h.8431 Keep trying. We all know you want to off trans kids and enjoy the show. We won't let it happen.
@@imanis.h.8431wdym we can see that hormones are easily accessible. according to whom?
@@imanis.h.8431 hormones are not easily accessible stop the cap and jubilee is a terrible source of info.
@@imanis.h.8431trans youth here. You have to go through a therapist for years, you dont get medical transition until you are 18, also you have to be on hrt for a number of time before surgeries which you have to be 18 and above for along with having a letter for it. Transphobes have lied and said they are "chopping off the genitals" of boys at random which is a gross lie since they dont perform those surgeries on minors.
If you actually studied the process you would know what it really takes. You act like if a 12 year old has gender dysphoria that they just rush them into getting bottom surgery or some such nonsense. Read up on the process instead of believing the right wing lies or listen to those of us who went through the process instead of going off the words of attention seeking grifters
I wanna know who’s getting gender affirming care so easily as a minor. It was so hard for them to even put me on menstrual suppressors.
Nobody is
It’s a lengthy process and incremental if it’s even available in the state one resides
It's a nightmare even for adults.
i wouldn’t say it was easy for me but it wasn’t difficult either, i live in CA which is very supportive as the states go. it took me 1-2 years to start HRT. and i got top surgery about a week ago. i’m 17.
@@bp6421 I wouldn't say nobody, I know a trans guy who was able to get on HRT at 15 and it only took him about a year, and he got top surgery shortly after at 16.
@@user-tb9iv9tp7j ah yes, I wonder why. Probably nothing to do with debilitating dysphoria they were presumably experiencing at such a young age haha
Only them and their doctors and therapists truly know what's right for them, and sometimes professionals fail because they can't feel what you feel or get into your brain.
Ps. I'm not saying you were using this as an anti trans argument, it can just be construed that way especially in this context, so I only recommend being careful what you say
the way ethan and oli are dressed the same has me crying omg
Hahahahah
bshjkna
I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE THAT🤣🤣
omfg Yes
It's like when he wore holsters in the Crowder debate
Oli's absolutely unwavering perfect posture is so funny to me he barely moved the whole interview
a deer in headlights
Oh GOD. Now I can't look at anything else. 😂
But THAT doesn't work, EITHER!
Gay chad.
He laughed too at some of Ethan’s jokes
Hearing Ethan get so passionate about caring for trans kids and telling Oli off made me as a trans person just have a sigh of relief, like finally someone is just like “YOU’RE THE PROBLEM OLI” finally someone says it to his face. Ethan made great points. I’m so happy to see cis het male allies sticking up for the trans community, especially a creator I’ve watched for so long. It means a lot.
Castrating mutilating children isn’t care.
I'm proud of ethan and the crew for evolving as they evolved, I don't think the ethan of vape nation 2016 could have pulled this kind of thing off.
Im all for adults making ehatever chamges to their body and wearing what they want. And im all for boys being able to wear dresses and pink if they want. Kids can't make such permanent life altering decisions like that about their bodies though, they seriously don't know if they will feel like that forever or not, I thought I wanted to be a boy in highschool, thank God I wasn't allowed to do anything about it because I would have regretted it so much as an adult, I don't want to be masculine at all
@@333kireinahime thats great, but the kids who do make these decisions have a medical team (and their parents onboard) every step of the way so. Just cause it wouldnt be your preference doesnt mean the medical team doesnt know what theyre doing.
@haleymh779 maybe some know what they're doing but definatley not all, there's so many detransitioners because they made the choice too early on and it litteraly ruined their life
its incredible to see ethan, a cishet man, debating transphobia in an informed matter and hitting all of the right talking points. just seeing a cis man understand us and fight for us means so much to me and our community. we do need cis people to fight alongside us, our voices are being silenced and protrayed as groomers and the strongest outlet for transphobic people to be informend is from cis people like them. thank you so much
You crazy
@@Jsameds You’re triggered
@@genesis8284 Triggered by child abuse? Sure I’ll take that as a dub.
@@Jsameds If you are worried about child abuse then start worrying about conservatives and arranged child marriages, not trans people.
@@Jsameds imagine being this dense. Facts are out there for you to research yet here you are.. lolol 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ethan’s comfort in awkward situations messes with my mind
It makes me so uncomfortable, I can't even watch it lol.
Joker brain
Penguin brain
Righteous indignation. I'd bet Hitler had that too.
@ToasterBrain Okay Crowder defender
Saying the rainbow fish is pushing a subtle ideology made me scream
The rainbow fish slander had me up in arms! WAR HORNNN
I screamed 😭🤣🤣
Fr that was so funny
Excuse me, don't you know that rainbow means gay?
Checkmate Atheist
he didn’t say that? he said he didn’t know because he didn’t read the book.
Ok so essentially Oli was rich, went broke getting plastic surgery, and so now to get money back he's becoming a grifter... Alright then...
the same thing every failed entertainer does - resorts to the transphobic grift
Ethan absolutely rinsed Oli. Dude kept ducking the bible question and so many others. Way to call him on it. W Ethan
ethan at the beginning of the Oli interview: “i want to have a kind and civil conversation”
ethan at the end of the Oli interview: “you are a demon”
Just the logical conclusion 😂❤
Agreed, anyone with that much cognitive dissonance is a demon.
hes not wrong
I loved every second of it. I love when Ethan goes in on them at the end when he doesn’t have to play nice anymore cause he doesn’t care if they disconnect the call!
P
Oil’s blank stares after Ethan would say some fuck shit made me laugh so hard
the caitlyn part😭😭
The new right wing strategy to being systematically proven wrong - Act like you're recently lobotomized.
Nothing gets through a skull that thick.
@@hannah-tq1fk I just watched that and cackled out loud 😭,
O.O
The silence after being called out for aiding in genocide, is DEAFENING, and I loved every single second of it
Funniest thing is that he didn't only take down the lunchbox BUT the whole website. Ethan must've struck a nerve! xD
Probably was afraid that his new found friends at Fox might find that...
I had a feeling he would lol
And the morons who believe his grift will still believe his nonsense despite how obvious of a grifter he is
i find it funny oli is talking about how trans people are pushing their "agenda" on little kids but fail to mention the numerous kids toys/shows that depict straight relationships.
thank you! drag shows are sexualising kids, but please keep taking your kids to hooters 🤡
And what about the child pageants and the states where it is legal to marry a child as an adult? PrOtEcT tHe ChIlDrEn is just an excuse to push the anti-LGBTQ agenda
That's the weakest f&cking comeback and the fact that it's been upvoted so many times shows how one dimensionally a lot of you think. Tv shows primarily depict hetero relationships because hetero people make up the majority of the population, duh. In spite of that there's been a huge increase in LGBT representation in the media over the past 2 decades
both can be true 🎉
@@Lena-ck3bg yeah. It's almost like it's the parent's job to not let their kid watch explicit drag for adults? tbh, I've only heard chronically online far-right twitter users use this overused argument. not our fault you are a shitty parent and let your kid go to hooters lol
oli’s similarity to trisha was so on the nose but THEN he even went down the whole “a parent should ALWAYS be with their kid” road, i couldn’t believe it
Right! Just like Trisha
They’re both super hypocritical too, can’t have a complete thought without saying something that conflicts w/ it
His Trisha analogy showed he plays loose with the facts. Dude did 0 research
So home schooling? How tf do you stay w your kid 24/7. It’s impossible and stupid
@@illsaveus & unhealthy. Imagine being so suffocated as a child who’s trying to establish some sense of independence…
"Well Trisha said she was a chicken nugget, can you get behind that?"
"Ethan I'm vegetarian" 😭😭😭
That sent me 😂😂😂
it’s so ridiculously funny 😭
Ethan was unprepared, even with a crew of 9 feeding him info. It’s very irresponsible to allow Oli to spread hate and not being equipped to combat it.
Ethan got emotional and kept repeating the same weak points. Dan banned actual trans people in the chat.
I’m not even there yet but lmaoooo 😂😂
@@dm_1236 copy and pasting the same comment everywhere is annoying asf stop.
It's like the first 2/3 of the debate Ethan was probing to see how much of the talking points Oli actually believed, but once he was certain Oli was a grifter who believes in nothing but money and clout, he decided to just turn him inside out.
He a Columbo with grifters🤣
“I do think that since god created trans people and when kingdom come you’re gonna have to answer for what you’re doing. This is not kindness” this is one of the best things ethan has ever said❤
Did God create Jeffrey Dahmer perfectly too?
@@BM-wh5qk are you seriously comparing us trans people to a fucking serial killer? The tricks y'all will pull outta your asses always amaze me
@@BM-wh5qk WAHHHHHH WAHHHHHH WAHHHHHH
@@BM-wh5qk I'm not religious but this argument really depends on whether you think people are inherently bad or whether their circumstances and experiences make them do bad things
@@BM-wh5qk According to the bible Jeffrey Dahmer went to heaven and his victims went to hell.
Oli is constantly bullying trans ADULTS on Twitter and misgendering them, so clearly he is prejudiced towards trans people more broadly, even if they transitioned in adulthood.
Ya. He was lying at the top of the interview when saying he supports trans. And from there you cant really take him at his word.
Crazy how he makes an acceptation for bullying when he is the one doing it
they also lied about being trans and a ton of other things
openly stated they did all that surgery for clout and now they are doing the anti trans thing for clout
Some people unfortunately keep their trauma cycle alive
he's a famewhore and saw the opportunity to grift on the right. all of his close personal friends have exposed him for all of his BS before, this is, of course, no different. he has no principles, he's just an insane level of an attention whore - from korean, to (fake) dating failed female reality stars (sorry, he's 100% gay), to claiming to be non-binary, then a trans woman, to this nonsense. the right/transphobes uncritically accepting them just shows the depths of their desperation for validation of their bigotry.
Ethan barking at the wall where Ryan will be is hilarious
I imagine him being like Kendall Roy shouting "FAMILY FAMILY"
I SNORTED laughing when he said that
it's interesting seeing people criticize Ethan for not letting Oli finish. Oli is trying to gish gallop, which to say that he's trying to spew out as much information as possible, throw out as many things as he can to construct a narrative, all kinds of faulty statistics and anecdotes lined up in a row. and the reason he's trying to do this is to 1) appear to bolster his argument despite not speaking facts 2) make it impossible for anyone to disprove all of the things he says, just by sheer volume. Ethan is stopping Oli so that he can interogate each claim on its own rather than letting them all string together to create a bogus narrative. when someone tries to gish gallop, the ONLY way you can combat their rhetoric is to break it down into digestible pieces and take on each claim on its own. this is one of the things I love about watching Ethan talk to people like this, he knows how to stop them from using petty tricks to look smarter and more informed than they are. much kudos!
one of my bestfriends who was trans just passed 3 weeks ago. she was 17. this was really hard to watch but it’s a conversation that needs to be had.
I'm glad you are staying strong. I am sorry that you both had to go through tough times and I am sorry she never got to see that bright future that we strive for. I only hope that when that day comes, we can collectively honour the memory of those who couldn't make the journey with us. I personally would like monuments much like the cenotaphs from the world wars. Stone makes a lasting reminder as well as a location for those with grief to gather together in solidarity with those who are able to comfort them.
Sorry to hear, I'm trans myself and it always hurts to hear when one of our own passes. Just be kind and talk out against this nonsense that people dole out to us, she'd likely appreciate it, take care.
Im so sorry to hear that
idc what anyone says!! the button is pure comedy gold. the way ethan looks at everyone after pressing gets me every time 😂😂😂
I love it cause as soon as the music starts I'm trying to imagine everything that could have been said lmao
It’s so damn funny that only Ethan presses it 😭
Time stamp
@@andrepadilla9089 maybe watch the pod its like 2 minutes in
@@Ralonmithos lotta people skipped straight to the interview
oli saying he would never leave his kid alone has the same energy as trisha saying she would never hire a nanny lol
Lmao accurate.
Noone asked Ethan that. This guy was a bad debater.
That's exactly what I thought when Oli was saying that 😂😂
Same with Terri joe😭
Smh always someone in the comments who feels so compelled to bring up old beef or something about Trisha negatively 🙄 Move on.
I love that Ethan gets all smart-like when he wants to absorb another hairline.
😂
Ethan has never gotten "smart-like" in his life.
@@TheKidCoolest he’s just been smart the whole time
@@DonnieLouis cope. I love Ethan and agree with most of the stances he takes, but he always finds the absolute dumbest ways to represent/present them. It almost makes me feel like I'm on the other person's side every time 😭
@@TheKidCoolest maybe you just are on the other persons side. Cause as someone who agrees with his world view for the most part, I think he does just a fine job representing his ideas. I think he’s been doing extremely well in the debates he’s participated in, he can clearly articulate complex ideas in pretty funny and simple ways. I don’t think I’m the one coping here.
So many amazing parts of this, from Oli’s insane take that parents should never leave their kid’s side to Ethan straight up asking, “is it kind to deny a kid healthcare and let them kill themself.” As someone who loves the trans people in their life, thank you for this interview.
"I used to be in a really bad place mentally, but I am fine now" *Doesn't blink for 45 minutes*
I feel that tho
Wouldn’t be caught dead judging others mental tho
😂, now that you mentioned it I just can't unsee.
"i used to grift for attention but im not this time i pinky promise"
Zack, can you please mesh the whole crew and Crowder all saying “that doesn’t work for me either” I think it’ll be so harmonious 🤞🏼🤝🏼
Omg yes!!!
This is a genius idea lol
The quote is “That doesn’t work either” 😂 they all keep saying it wrong.
Did Chowder say it twice, with and without the "for me"...
or am I remembering that incorrectly and everyone saying it wrong just got into my head? Lol
I’m so glad this podcast is so popular. People being exposed to sensible perspectives on lgbtq and trans people and drowning out the right wing channels like Tim Pool. Ethan is killing it!
Could not agree more!
I still keep waiting for the obvious question - the foundation of this entire line of inquiry: You're SO worried about minors receiving gender-affirming care due to your belief that one must not interfere with their biological hormones or anatomy prior to turning 18 or risk regretting the decision.
The most important question, then, is HOW are everyone else's kids' decisions, mistakes, regrets, or choices YOUR concern?????? You're trying to enforce your beliefs on other parents & other people's children. What's it to you? Where do we draw the line to stop interfering in the medical decisions other people get to make for their own families with their own doctors?
Fucking brutal. This "debate" should be a Mortal Combat fatality lol. Great job Ethan!
Ethan should be a DLC character.
Not much of a debate when one side is just sitting there on a laptop googling counter arguments..
@@doworksonism cope harder lol
@@doworksonism Is researching the truth worse than making shit up on the spot like Oli?
the pause after “famously ran someone over” is soooo funny
That shit had me howling that’s me at work when men say outlandish things to me
I'm in a dead quiet office at my cubicle listening through earbuds and this moment just took me all the way out 😅
I took a sip of water right when we said that and I almost spit it out
TIMESTAMP?
@@tori3259 it's just at the start when Oli comes on
It amazes me how smart ethan can be during his debates and the next episode we get "who's sam" ethan
Hahaha right 😂 how does he go from "how old am I?" to this
he gotta charge up 🙏
We get the best of both worlds😂
He is saving his energy or some shit
Low power mode Ethan walks so that debate king Ethan can run.
Interesting to note that Arielle Scarcella, one of the spokeswoman for gays against groomers, was accused of actual grooming
was anyone shocked when those accusations dropped? her entire beef was "the transes took the hot lesbians away and I cant get any tail anymore"
@@reform-revolution Not at all, TERFs have a ridiculously high number of people like this in their groups, including very prominent members, that they like to try and sweep under the rug
it's ALWAYS a projection
Where can I read about that? Is there any article or anything
👀👀
That Oli London interview was an amazing destruction. Ethan brought such a powerful and measured energy to the table, and saved the strongest emotion for the end. It was like a slow burn that swelled into an inferno. I talk about trans issues all the time and I was genuinely speechless with how well Ethan returned every single point. That was some strong stuff, I wish everybody could see it.
as a trans person, ethan handled it great. he was way more civil than i would have been. also, to all the commenters saying how they respect oli for staying civil or whatever - he's a grifter addicted to attention. you don't have to hand it to him.
I'm not seeing any threads about people respecting this nut after this debate..
Oil did very well... at lying, manipulating, and grifting.
Your sentence implies Ethan is trans😂
He thinks he was a k pop star! He is insane
With the the most peace and love possible, Finland’s conclusion was right; Ollie London was in the end, bullied into heteronormative ideologies.
Just like mark there is no victimless crime 😩
Lol good point. Although with him I'd say he's the only person in the world going transgender, transracial, and back to man just for the attention
@@EmanStark 💀 yeah he carving a new path 🐐😂💀 frfr
@@EmanStark classic case of a nutjob grifter doing wacky things and presenting themselves as an easy tool to demonize a marginalized group
Idk I don’t think it’s not just bullying but also a chance to grift. Bro was used as as anti-trans rhetoric from the beginning
Ethan is easily one of the best interviewers IN ALL OF MEDIA.
If Oli grew up in England he knows who the Ranbow Fish is, thats a classic primary school book
I will say, Oli managed to control his tone and posture far more than the other people Ethan has debated. Everyone will usually lose their posture and change their tone and even resort to interrupt and raise their voice. At least he went the distance, this is top tier content.
its cuz he doesn’t truly care about his cause lol he’s a master grifter
its the common tatic of their side yk appearing gentle and polite and "rational" but i agree this is gold content holy fuck
it just speaks to how obvious of a grift it is. you can tell Oli really doesnt give a crap about protecting kids both through his actions and demeanor
That's because he doesn't actually care about "protecting children", the only time he got worked up was over the lunchbox, really telling. So don't praise him for being the grifter he is.
Yeah it’s not an interview it’s more like bullying
Papa removed his beanie to absorb another hairline, people
Omg if Oli goes bald I'll lose my mind.
@@TheCardanoArmy noooo he's gonna relapse again and have another surgereeeyyy!
what are the other hairlines
@rice cake theres too many to comment
Papa bless
Ethan going on a feral debate arc is giving me life. You killed it Ethan!
Ethan is a odious little toad who supports the endangerment of women and children for the sake of ANY MALE who says he has psychotic issues about his body and wants to gain access to women only spaces.
He's built for it.
I have a theory that Ethan always dreamed of being an investigator and do interrogations with suspects
The fact that oil London considers himself a kpop star is absolutely hysterical to me.
Omg I missed that so iconic
The fact that he is here in the first place after all these years and this is how we get him is also hysterical 🏴☠️😭💗
one could argue kpop is more sexual in nature than drag 🤷♀
@@sleepy7711 neither are sexual in nature.. it doesn't have to be all or nothing lmfao
Ethan was unprepared, even with a crew of 9 feeding him info. It’s very irresponsible to allow Oli to spread hate and not being equipped to combat it.
Ethan got emotional and kept repeating the same weak points. Dan banned actual trans people in the chat.
ethan made a great point about pro-lifers and yet making fun of people with disabilities, deformities, diseases, etc. like you can’t force them to live and then bully them
He is based. Shuf
The logic makes a lot more sense when you think about it as “pro forced birth” or it’s hidden agenda being more about controlling women. Otherwise you’re so right it doesn’t make sense
he ate chowder up!!!!!
That was Matt Walsh who made that point. Maybe Ethan forgot and thought he had thought of that take.
I’ve had to say this over and over the last week bc this keeps coming up but his point gets even better when you learn that actual genuine pro-life people who deeply believe in it are some of the biggest supporters and defenders of children with Down syndrome. Just further proof they are just using the concept to further their evil ideals and not bc they actually care about the debate whatsoever
I love how off the rails Ethan can be but his interviews are such top tier. Interviews are definitely my favorite segments
around two hours Ethan says "What other bible stories do you like" and I cackled
I think it’s so easy for Ollie to maintain composure because he has no emotional ties to what he’s saying. You can tell when Ethan brings up his lunch box, that it’s really the only time he gets worked up. Respect the grift.
@@CJ-xb7yw of course they would? I don’t understand what you’re saying. And I do think they made a good point.
@@spookeymo its a real big stretch to say someone is giving ASPD vibes when the disease is so wildly difficult to even identify let alone understand.
@bored we’re all parasocially living through this conversation, don’t hate the player hate the game, friend.
@@doyoufeelbonita Exactly, lol.
But why is Ethan worked up over the lunchbox? What's so wrong with kids having a cartoon of a trans woman on a lunchbox?
I imagine the crew looking like the nasa space center during lift off during these debates. Speedy fact checking and sending stuff to Ethan. 😂
Imagine if Ethan actually debated someone smart...
Omg. Haha
@@vtjake3761 yep he really struggled with this guy, obviously he only tries to find people who have an inarguably wrong opinion to begin with (like the cult guy), but the problem this time is that Ethan got the completely wrong idea of Oli and actually Oli was agreeing with most of the things Ethan was questioning him about which just made Ethan look stupid because he was expecting him to disagree, and when he doesn't disagree and say something silly then Ethan just quickly moves on to the next attempt at a "gotcha" instead of acknowledging that they had a mutual agreement which tells everyone that this is not an open minded conversation from Ethan and it's just a cheap attempt at getting clips that make him look good.
@@albr4🤓
@@albr4I disagree. He was folding
2:15:10 "You can't interpret every line and take it as gospel" BABES ITS QUITE LITERALLY THE GOSPEL 😭
do people not realize that trans adults were once trans kids??? like i remember being in elementary school and i felt so weird for feeling the way i felt. the only trans topic i had found out about was a trans person made the news for "what jail do we put this trans person in" and my father was confused and my mother had to explain it and he goes "ew gross thats a chick? thats nasty she has facial hair like a dude!!" and here i was closeted trans guy, felt unsafe in my house because of the transphobia and ended up trying to take my own life because they thought i was going through a 6 year long phase. trans kids exist and trans kids are valid. hormone replacement therapy (hrt) saves lives. it saved my life. and if only 2% of trans people detrainsiton (and some people dont understand that sometimes trans people detrainstion not because they werent really trans but for safety) why the fuck should you deny the 97% of trans people who are actually trans! LET US EXIST IN PEACE
When I was 10, the theme of my mom’s parade float was rocky horror. She dressed me and my 6 year old sister in drag, like various color themed big feather hats, feather boas, and dresses that were lined with feathers. It was fun and I still love the big family photo we took. I’m now a 30 year old cis-het man who has kissed a guy and didn’t like it, accepts all genders and sexualities, is not confused about my own, and am comfortable with the idea of people minding their own business and letting people live how they want. This whole debate is so absurd.
These values that the alt-right are so scared of have always existed, and I guarantee you most of the people avidly against the existence of drag, trans people, and gay people, have all been exposed to these things throughout their lives and it clearly hasn’t altered their own sexuality. They need to get the fuck over it.
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Thats different from enabling, grooming, or manipulating your kid into believing they are trans, and then allowing or coercing those kids into making life altering decisions based on those beliefs.
That is also different exposing your kid to a sexually explicit drag show.
King!!
@@albertprelvukaj1028 please show me a study about the epidemic of children being manipulated or groomed in to being trans… my guy people are trans get over it
@@albertprelvukaj1028 way to completely miss his point
unlike oli I am not a religious man but I pray every single day that these idiots keep doing these interviews without realizing what they’re getting into because it is the best content and I wish I could inject it directly into my veins
felt this so deeply
This is very accurate 😂
this !!!!
Oil questioning the “agenda” of The Rainbow Fish *killed me* 😂 when I was 5 we had that book read to us, and that was in _1997_ ... literally no agenda behind it, besides making us all want our chance to take the classroom fish home & whatever generic “life lessons” we didn’t care about at that age
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I was 17 when I had an appendectomy and laparoscopy that saved my life. But in Oli’s world, I wasn’t 18 and therefore was unable to consent to the procedure. Nice to know.
Genuine question: is that likening it to like a FtM getting a double mastectomy or minor trans getting srs? Or is it more likening it to HRT?
@@getschwifty5271I know this is a little old, but I'll give my opinion since the op didn't answer. I imagine its in reference that children, by Oli's standards, can't consent to anything that changes their physical body. Which if true, by extension, all surgeries before 18 are done without consent. I think another ludicrous extension of this would be ear piercings, hair dye, lifesaving surgeries for those born intersex, r-worded little girls can't get abortions, Jewish people should be persecuted for doing circumcisions, even girls taking birth control would be considered wrong. Its an endless, stupid rabbit hole. Personally, I think at 18 we should have the right to do whatever we want with our bodies. If we're old enough to be drafted into the military and killed in combat, we're old enough to get some breasts or get rid of them. I think at 13 A child should be able to choose to go on hormone blockers, because its not permanent. You can stop them at any time and resume the puberty process. I don't advocate for gender-affirming surgeries or hormones before 18 because that is an awfully big commitment and I think our hormones in our teens are already out of whack and can make us do some regrettable things. I had a 'phase', for lack of a better term, of thinking I might be trans male as a teen, but I have since realized I'm just a wicked tomboy who likes girls. I'm glad I didn't have the opportunity to make huge and regretted decisions like that.
Appendicitis is a medical emergency, itll lead to sepsis/d€ath if not treated immediately
Oli's grift is largely made possible by people totally failing to understand what's going on with gender, and by extension, with transgender people.
They think of gender in pop-sociology terms of "an identity group, like race, religion, disability etc" which is one way to look at it, and this is how Oli can say "I thought if a man can become a woman why can't I become Korean, they put me up to it"
Two things. 1. Gender identity is correlated to sexually dimorphic brain regions, they've found that transgender people have neuroanatomy typical of the opposite sex in these key regions, when they say "my gender does not match my sex" the evidence from neuroscience fully backs this claim. 2. Sex involves male and female hormones, the differences between men and women partially involve these hormones, most people who transition use these hormones to change their body to allign with their gender.
So let's go back to the claim "I'm trans-korean, which is just as valid as being a trans woman", there's no difference between white brains and korean brains that could cause a white person to have "race-dysphoria" the way a trans person has gender dysphoria. I could take estrogen and my body would become more female-like, what drug could I take that'd make my body more Korean? See how ridiculous Oli's claim is when examined the right way?
No because men and women are equal and there is no difference in our brains at all. Gender is just a social construct and theres no difference in the male brain to the female brain.
He knew he fucked up by coming on the show the minute Ethan said "who famously ran over someone" at the top of the interview. 😂😂
💯 his face went 😕 nice try Loli
@@keshiamccallum3364 comedy gold. 😂
This has to be the worst interview ive ever seen. Its wild how long this Ethan guy has been doing these types of interview for so long. It was hard to watch. Im not sure Ethan listened to one word coming out of Ollies his mouth, how ollie stayed for so long is beyond me.. With the whole of H3 feeding Ethan what to say and show this Ollie guy legit wiped the floor on these lot. This is embarrasing for H3.
@@haiimax sure thing buddy. really cool. 👍👍
@@DissedRedEngie eerr thanks buddy? avaiblable on all digital platforms
2:04:09 ethan having to rephrase his question like hes trying to get chat gpt to answer is literally the funniest shit ive seen in recent memory
then your sense of humor needs adjusting
Was literally thinking he sounded like he was trying to trick chatgpt 🤣
@@devmyster925“tHeN yOuR sEnSe Of hUmOr NeEdS aDjUsTiNg”🤓
@@devmyster925 gUyS oMg sToP hAvInG fUn!! ITs sTuPiD tO hAvE fUn!!! GuUuYYss oMgG sToP iTs nOt fUnNy!! StOp tHiNkInG iTs fUnNy
@@devmyster925 so your bitterness
as a trans person under the care of kaiser permanente, it literally took me over three years to have access to any kind of care, and attempting to get refills on my hormones is like walking through a field of rusty nails. so, no, kaiser is not pushing trans healthcare lol.
Oil is the type of guy who is so unhappy with who he is that he wants to make others unhappy with themselves much to the detriment to an entire community
He just wants to protect kids from abuse.
@@JsamedsWow you’re such a hero
@@genesis8284 Ok groomer
@@Jsameds 😂😂 Shure he dose and pastor's don't rape kids
@@Jsameds then he wouldnt be a catholic
Shout out to Olivia making a distinction between body dysmorphia and self esteem issues influenced by puberty.
Queen Olivia is always on time!
Gender dysphoria =/= body dysmorphia
Fascinating. No one in the medical and therapy field consider it dysmorphia. But what a nice, easy label to invalidate what is a true condition and not a mental illness. I think we need to come up with a dysmorphia term for the obsessive bigotry from the right.
@@alexey5481 Yeah all those 3 are separate things
“Go back to terf island” HAS to be the funniest line Dan has ever said
What’s a terf?
@@Jsameds trans exclusionary radical feminist (feminists agaisnt trans people)
@@Jsameds it stands for “trans-exclusionary radical feminist” aka people who “want women’s rights” but are extremely transphobic, especially towards trans women
@@horsegirlheresy6195 I prefer to use the word PTUWBDM or Person That Understands What Biological Definitions Mean
@@Jsameds go back to terf island
my younger brother came out as trans to me and my family last year. he's currently 8 years old but he has come LEAPS and bounds within himself, at school, and with our family. As he is so young, we fully accept that this may be a temporary feeling (which is COMPLETELY valid too) and will be happy to follow his suit if he wishes to be referred to as a girl again. puberty blockers are not possible at this age right now and his transition is solely a social transition at this time. For now i am just so proud to see this more confident and liberated side of my sibling :)
Incredible how Oli literally just talked in circles, it's clear that it's all for whatever will currently give him the most attention
I love that Cam is becoming brother nature
Omg brother nature 😂😂😂
Looking like that Forrest wizard from LOTR
he is our nature pixie
Father nature, babe 😍😂
Oli says he supports adult Trans people but then CONSTANTLY misgenders Dylan Mulvaney. Make it make sense
He might not even keep track of his grift. Either that or he's just a normal far right winger.
Yes ethan's kids will go to a trans show for sure since he doesn't have a problem with it
@@xmas9431 you don't seem to understand lefties who believe in FREEDOM. Meaning you CAN or CAN NOT go to a drag show. Versus this FAKE lefty you have in your mind where we FORCE people to be trans.
@@xmas9431 even if they did, is that more damaging than the church or less damaging? (Insert every argument in the video here cause you’re a dumba$$)
You know Dylan Mulvaney is an actor and Broadway performer, right? who in the original "first day of being a women" tiktok said it was just making fun of women, who has admitted to not taking HRT and has no plans to do so. and only has had facial surgery (nose and jaw work) in an effort to be "trans", but yeah, calling Dyaln a "she" is important, not the scamming and lying parts 👍
“Jimin’ll fix it!!” - Zach
Incredible moment.
"When Kingdom come, you're gonna have to answer for what you're doing." - Ethan to Oli
As a formerly very religious and still spiritual person, that was a fucking powerful statement.
that and "this is not kindness"
Ethan continuously saying "dysmorphia" despite being corrected multiple times is so funny
of all the things to say about this you're caught up on a mispronunciation. gtfoh
I do the same thing 😅😅
I’ve noticed that EVERY TIME Ethan debates someone and he’s getting them heated up and consistently proving them wrong that they say his name over and over again
When people get frustrated, they typically direct their anger or frustration more intently. Therefore, they’d say their irritants name.
Ethan doesn’t debate as much as he does irritate the person till they just want to leave. Ethan isn’t a good debater because he STEEL MANS his own arguments and cherry picks what he will and won’t talk about
@@Windbend3r bro goes on this channel just try cry over and over lmaooo💀💀💀💀💀
When you say someone’s name loud and assertive, it’s a way to shame, reprimand, or dominate the conversation. It typically makes you stop and look when someone says your name. But it doesn’t work when you’re just plain wrong… LMAO
@@Windbend3r 🤣
I literally listen to this audio every night and it helps me fall asleep. It's one of my favourite debates. Ethan did his homework and was READY
“I don’t think children should be exposed to political ideologies” as a Mexican-Guatemalan American, i have been exposed to politics since a child because it was going against me, my family, friends, and my ethnic community. Children being exposed to acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community will not harm them but teach them acceptance.
Also calling support for and pride of the LGBTQ+ community “political ideologies” is so…gross. It is not a political thing, and it is not a way to earn public favor for hating or supporting us. we are not pawns to be used and debated about.
Oli trying to defend his lunchbox and shirts of a cartoon doing a literal ahegao face is so fucking funny. Can’t make this shit up.
Ethane response to say no I wouldn't buy it because I don't want to support you financially had me 😂😂
I like when he had the side by side image with the ahegao face and olie said "your really stretching" comedy skit material
Trans person from Texas here. If I had gender affirming care when I was growing up (or even just EDUCATION on trans people), maybe I would not have wanted to commit suicide for my entire teenage life. Even as an adult when I started transitioning, the amount of checks and balances and red tape is astonishing. Doctors, therapists, psychiatrists, for every single thing you want to do. Our lives are dictated by the government. We AS ADULTS are not free to make our own choices. Kids are NOT being pushed to transition in any way shape or form. It is absolutely ridiculous. These points being made to protect the 1% of people who de-transition only serve to punish the 99% of people who need gender affirming care. This is ultimately about squashing the entire trans community.
i’m sorry to hear about your struggle, and I 100% agree with you. Don’t let this fall off again 👑
@@nednoodlehead i love you ned noodle head
Thank you so much for sticking around with us. The world is a better place with you in it.
Happy you stuck around ✌️&❤ family
Thank you. Your experience mirrors mine. Wish I had the knowledge and support back then
Olli seemed to have forgotten that medication is used for mental and physical health when he said "They need mental health help not medication"
no literally, i laughed so hard when he said that. Are antidepressents not mental health help??
I’d say eventually people will be afraid of debating Ethan but there’ll ALWAYS be delusional people
That was my thought like Ethan’s gotta calm the F down otherwise no one will wanna come on 😂😂😂😂
this was not a debate
@232 432 correct, this was a civil conversation. Ethan has stated it here, and he's also stated multiple times on multiple episodes that he isn't a good debater, especially politics. Idk where people are getting debate from. 🤷♀️🤝
the more delusional they get, the better the content
love how they swap the title from polite, to the true “Ethan Confronts...” soon as the guest takes the bait 😂 Like with Marc Elliot, you gotta be dumb to think “totally civil conversation” wasn’t an obvious troll but it’s funny for us at least
I just know Oli is going to completely switch personalities again in a few months 🏴☠️💀
prick is just a grifter looking for attention and money
Does someone have to have bpd in order to go from trans to anti-Christ
@@Daisydelamoryes
I predict the Milo Yiannopoulos pivot. He'll come out as a recovering homosexual, extolling the benefits of gay conversion therapy.
@@Daisydelamor As someone with BPD this made me cackle, I was thinking the whole time Oli is for sure struggling with something BPD-adjecent.
I took a lil 6 month break from h3h3 after trisha left, just to clean my pallet. I'm back, the h3 is better than ever, and I missed you guys so much. BETTER. THAN. EVER. letsgooooooo
Whenever I argue with people I always go with the Ethan approach and it really makes me feel like a baddy
Yassss! I'm taking mental notes of all his methods!
Someone changed Ethan’s age on Wikipedia to 42 😂😂😂😂
hahaha love it
the truth always prevails
Shoutout Throast
And on Google
@@surfroxy317 someone must’ve just changed that it was still 37 last night
Do people really not watch a single other video of Ethan’s interviews? They act like it’s just gonna be a free platform for them to spew their bs with no pushback & you can literally see the light leave their eyes when they realize that’s not what’s happening lol
Same energy as people who come on to Eric Andre not knowing what they’re getting into
@@lunchbox3124 stop replying to every comment saying sniff lunchboxes bro its weird
@@lunchbox3124 Yeah thats very strange, why ban discussions, reminds me of authoritarian shit. Just deal with some conflict in the chat, not a big problem.
I mean it's not that much of a shocker that people aren't aware of Ethans debate tactics since they probably don't know much about him or his show in the first place.
People on here crying about him not being respectful to a shitty guy is just weird
Thank you, Ethan. Your approach was great and this debate was so well done. Now more than ever, trans people need critical support from the wider community. I just resubscribed.
I'm at that point where i say the sound bites before zach plays them bc i know which ones are coming hahahah
Same!!!
it’s even worse when you think the perfect one is coming and then zach never hits it! haha and i’m so confused because i’m like “that would’ve been perfect there!!”
Slay queen
@@dovegraydays YES!!! I always think about that hahaha
@@maddienem8956 I'm so happy you got that one 😭👑
zach and olivia: “the royal they”
ab: “thy”
😭😭😭😭 41:25
😂😂
Under appreciated
“Oli you were trans before Tik Tok”
I just threw my phone
I'm trying to see if Oli removed the lunch box from his store but it seems like he took down the entire website because if you go to it it says "This Shop has not been activated" So I think he just took down the entire store 😂😂
As a trans person it’s just so nice to get to see this. Thank you for letting me live vicariously through yall
@@mattH3ew 💗🏳⚧ FAMILY
Just want to let you know how many of us love and support you in a world where so many people are hateful
Oli has been trans'd and woke mind virus'd since apparently even the 90s (as a 33-year-old) when it didn't exist. He's transitioned not just once, but twice, and in aspects beyond just gender, and won't permit anyone else to do it even once. What if Oli changes his mind again and wants to transition back to woman again, but the world he advocated for has now come to be and won't allow him to anymore? Like a typical conservative, he's all in favor of denying other people the same rights he takes advantage of, pulling the ladder under him
Oli was only in favor of more precautions and examinations for kids to be able to make the decision to transition. He’s not a “demon” or in favor of “kids offing themselves” as Ethan said. Oli is 100% correct here.
@@drinkswatere baby those are already in place, he's a demon bc he keeps acting lik eotherwise, driving up people like you to get all paranoid and zealous when its not an actual fucking problem. There are precautions there are examinations, try transitioning and see how /easy/ it is.
Oli’s grift was cracking once ethan started showing the merch. you could see him trying to hold back a smirk.
I wonder if it registers for him that being forced to go through puberty as one gender when you know you belong to the other is pretty irreversible. I will never be my truest self and I struggle every day to feel like I can. I knew who I was long before puberty hit, a long life led amongst discriminations against my expression forced me to forget.. but I remember now. 🙁
Get help. You’re born what you are and that’s your destiny in this lifetime.
On the positive side, at least you get to be able to have sex and experience orgasm and not be sterilised. Some things to be grateful for! It would not have been worth risking losing those things all for the sake of being able to look slightly more passable (how vain can you get lol)
Making Oli's own argument against him and him not knowing how to respond is so fucking funny
I obviously don't agree with Olie but the lunchbox thing was silly. Olie doesn't really have a full understanding of his own opinions, I think he just feels uncomfortable with sexual content being shown and marketed to children for immense profits while actual research into mental health and gender studies aren't being funded nearly enough. I think he's more scared and overreacting. Obviously we all don't want kids to attend the kind of drag shows that are hypersexual when there are shows appropriate for children.
They’re transitioning 3 year olds. If you’re okay with that vote for Biden.
@@easyandy1337 The "sexual content" he is complaining about isn't sexual at all and his views on "mental health and gender studies" are harmful to mental health and gender studies. I live in Australia and a childrens drag story hour was just cancelled here because of american fear mongering bullshit like what Oli is doing. It impacts the whole world and actively encourages terrorists to threaten violence onto events that arent remotely sexual.
@@easyandy1337 If getting into stats and the very real impact of what oli is doing doesnt work, you need to make fun of the hypocrisy in what he says.
@@easyandy1337 I think it helps show how silly Ollie’s opinion can be when taken to the extreme that he does. For instance, when saying that he can’t determine whether the drag queen reading a book to kids is inappropriate, he says that some books are promoting “gender ideology” in a very subtle and subliminal way, as if including a trans character is the same as including sexual acts in a children’s book. So then Ethan draws a parallel to the lunch box because that cartoon could be interpreted as depicting a trans woman (it would be easy to imagine someone like Tucker Carlson make this accusation, just think of his green m&m take). By equating the two, he highlights the absurdity of saying that kids even being aware of trans people and drag queens is somehow damaging, as opposed to the actual common sense take that kids shouldn’t see actual sexual acts (which is not the case at an all ages drag shows).
Googling how old ethan is and seeing that the result has changed to 42 is the best
This whole idea that the gay/trans ideology is "pushed" or "forced" is ridiculous and they know it. I work with a bunch of conservatives and I told them that my parents and teachers "brought me up gay" and you'd think it was the funniest thing they ever heard.