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Case 192: The Sodder Children
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On Christmas Eve 1945, while most citizens of the town of Fayetteville, West Virginia celebrated the end of World War Two, Italian immigrants - George and Jennie Sodder watched their house go up in flames...
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His ladder was missing, his two trucks suddenly not working - isn't that quite suspicious as well?
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Its obvious that the Sodder children were not in the house at the time the fire started. As a health professional, I know that there are always skeletal remains even after cremating a body at 2000 degrees. mAs there were no remains, that means the children had been removed/lured out by the perpetrators and the house then set alight. Someone really hated the family or George and wanted him dead. My theory is that the Sodder children were disposed of/murdered soon afterwards as they were of no use. The poor parents, never gave up hope of finding their babies
Great podcast :) such a sad but fascinating case. Here are a couple of additional interesting facts if you’re interested. In regards to the picture of Louis that was addressed to the mom, Jennie, she did had a brother named Frank Cipriani, who could be “brother Frankie”. The Sodder family had initially suspected him because he lived in Florida. There were witnesses who saw the children get into cars with Florida licence plates. Even the Sodders believed this theory that Jennie’s brother took them because it would’ve been someone they knew. Thank you again for a great podcast.
This case is soo bizarre!!
Excellent telling of an old mystery.
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Does anyone else feel weird being enthused about new episodes, when ultimately, the podcast is about terrible and atrocious crimes?
Lol I totally get ya. When I watch the Crimes of the Week channel I get excited and Patriotic when the UK is featured and immensely proud if its one of the more bad ass crimes then my pride is immediately shattered when I ask myself 'Vic WTF??'
No, not at all. It's being enthused about new information, NOT about the Murders done. Learn how to discern information!
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This story is wild. One thing touched on that was the first thing that came to mind when I learned that George was an Italian American in the coal and excavating-trucking business- mob doings here can't be underemphasized. Recall that mob control of the West Virginia unions are what, together with similar influence in Chicago won JFK the presidential election. I don't buy the Mussolini angle. By wars end most Italians and practically all Italian Americans were anti Mussolini and the government had well before coopted mob leaders in America to help defeat Mussolini. It's well documented. True there was an anti communist backlash that followed wars end as communist organizations formed from the Italian resistance vied for power in Italy but that didn't equate to support for the then defunct and dead Mussolini administration and leader. What is troubling is that back then the American mob bent over backwards not to kill family members so why torch this guy's house. And oh yeah, how about the guy who warned him about the whole Mussolini thing having a name like some old civil war general. And how do you shorten some Italian last name to "Sodder". Great story somebody should be able to solve if they got Jennies DNA on all those sites people use to find relatives. It's just a matter of time I would think.
So sad. Those poor parents never gave up
I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure human bodies don't disintegrate completely from the intensity of house fires and I'm pretty sure this was known at the time
That's correct. My niece, her husband & their 5 year old son were murdered & the killers tried to incinerate them by burning the house to the ground, with them in it. The adults had more than half of their arms & legs gone & the baby was only a whitened bare skull. Unfortunately i saw the photos & sifted through the rubble with my sister. There were many pieces of bone shards in the ashes.
It has been reported, though I do not have a source or know if it is correct, that Mr. Sodder stored gasoline in the basement of the house. The house may also have had a coal chute and coal in the basement. If this is true, it is thought the heat from combustion of these substances would have been even more efficient than an official crematorium. This is a for what it's worth because I do not have a source.
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Not saying how but San Gabriele arcangelo
Truly bizarre story
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Yes the quality really suffers, especially with the mid-roll adverts breaking the flow and taking you out of the story.
Dude has to make a living for his time.
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There seems to be something suspiciously disquietening about this case. Are there no members of the Sodder/Soddu family left in Sardinia or Italy? Didn't George have siblings? I know he had a brother who went to the US with him and then returned to the home country. What about Jennie? Did she not have siblings. I find it hard to believe that there seems to be no one around who knows anything about the family Sodder/Soddu. This seems to be more than just an 'I hate Mussolini, the Mafia and Life insurance' case as people claim George saying.
What a tragic story to.
lose 5 children. So many people involved trying to solve what happened to the other 5 children. Surely there would have been screams from the children being kidnapped at the time of the fire.
Plus the eldest boy was old enough to know who his parents were and yet no attempt was made by him to find the rest of his family. Lots of red flags.
This was a very baffling and intriguing case. And an extremely difficult case to solve. The FBI should have been involved in the case
No justice for the family
My theory is that perhaps the children were taken and murdered somewhere else. Because if I was a 14 year old knowing who my family was why didn't you try to find his family along with the rest of his siblings. If they were alive after the fire no contact whatsoever. My conclusion is they were murdered.
Isn't it strange all the things that went wrong ..especially both cars not starting.mthe ladder..i bet the kids weee gone before that fire started..I think the father knows and his looking forever means nothing as many guilty parenys do that.and I wonder if those kids had life insurance..Also I i wonder if Mr Soder sold his kids for sex trafficing as wasn't his past a mystery.
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The whole thing is so bizarre. Clearly the children didn't die in the fire. The cause of the fire, the grenade, the ladder, the trucks not starting, no bones and on and on. A lot of people had to be in on it. Why?
Is it weird that i'm listening to this to help me sleep?🤣
This is horribly sad but I don't think it's much of a mystery. Some local thugs didn't like this family and burned down their house. The children died in the fire. They were probably reduced to bones that were covered by ash and debris. These remains were then buried or destroyed when the dad bulldozed the property. Everything else that happened afterward is just noise, just a family trying to make sense of the horror they endured.
i mean you make alot of asumptions that were debunked, no bones were found, no smell of burnt flesh was felt. Such a shallow view
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I have heard varied facts from three channels and i still cant think about one theory.
"The father screwed someone over he shouldnt have. They tar bombed his house. Then someone set it ablaze in the study.
I think the parents know as things like the ladder being mived and nobody.answering 911..the cars not atarting..yeah what are the odds on that..plus all the other things that went wrong.I think dad was making sute the police looked elsewhete right away..Maybe Mr sex trafficed those kids..They were not in the house when the fire was.I wonder if the police even chwcked on Mr Soders stories of all the things that went wrong..Like was there even a phone calk.As for Mr S looking until his dying day..well we know parents.have.bwing.involved in search parties etc.only to be arrested.Mr S if guilty may have still kept up.with his facade as it was his way of denial.over his guilt..and also still making aure police qoukd never look his .way as who. would search forever and pay.for billboards if guilty..The scene was set..
Someone wanted money they were due and they didnt get it but they got his whole family
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The children upstairs were kidnapped for ransom but later killed as they were less of a priority now that everyone is looking for them. Remember, still just theory.
So it was an Italian ting
it s not possible the childrens remains just desintegrated, they were kidnapped before the fire, I'd say.
@Babylonian Cowboy it is still weird the parents did not see any of the remains, they were not present at recovery site?
@Babylonian Cowboy idk, somehow we know, decades later, that the investigators just missed something (several bodies???) and it was never found... but we know this now... how?
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Love the story but to many "website" mentions for a story in the 40s. Im not a historian but don't believe the internet was around then. 😂
That's because he's referencing articles written on websites. Just because it happened in the forties doesn't mean people stopped researching it.
Do... do you think that everything that happened before the internet is just, like, lost knowledge and only found in books?
Go back and listen, he refers to websites that were used during the story. Still don't think they had websites in the 40s
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15min adds 2 mins intro 10 mins music 10 mins info streeeeeetched out to 30.
The oldest boy was 14 almost an adult sure there would've BN remains.
It sounds like a robot narrating.
You could've bleeped the blasphemy part. You didn't have to say it. I gave a dislike for that and stopped watching.
im sorry but i would rather here nails scrapping down a chalkboard all day long than listen to anyone with an australian accent..its just awful...🥴🥴🥴🥴
Thumbs down only because this case was *just* covered by another TrueCrime podcast. Seems like you cats have been playing catch-up for a couple months now. =/
Casefile made this podcast a while ago and was till now only to hear om Patreon. Seems, the other podcast is newer.
It was released a few months ago. This isn’t new content just bonus
It's been covered by a LOT of channels but I don't mind hearing it again, it's just that twisted..
Also I'm guessing they're responding to the wishes of their patrons.