New Ariel Rider Kepler V1 vs V2
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2022
- In this video I talk about changes / differences between the pre production / first batch V1 to the second batch/ V2 Keplers. V1 and V2 are terms i use! this info is not official from Ariel Rider just my own observations after watching other videos on this bike including Ariel Rider website compared to what I received on my Kepler.
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Have been looking at e-bikes for a while now. Finding your videos have convinced me that Kepler is the bike I'm looking for. Thanks. Haven't ordered mine yet, but will be soon.
Really appreciate your taking the time to put out these videos. Much, if not all of your points are indeed accurately reported.
I took delivery in the very first week of deliveries, of the Version 1.0 group of Keplers.
To clarify, yes, the crankset on the V 1.0 is made by ‘Prowheel.’ The ‘Solio,’ is how it is branded.
Also,
In your display, you can access an App, that may allow your bike to be more interactive, to include gps, the ability to communicate with other Kepler owners and share information with them, and other ‘cool’ things, us V 1’ers did not get.
Then there is also speculation that your controller may be a TRUE 1800 watt output one, versus ours being rated at 1300 watts peak output. This is not confirmed, but the math, based on the amps shown in the two different displays of either bike V 1.0 versus 1.5, metes this out. Plus V 1.0 electronic components are not compatible with the V 1.5 controller. (We can not just go out and buy your headlight or tail light and switch them out with ours), since AR already told us the two controllers are different and not compatible for electronic component swapping.
We also call you second batch guys, the Version 1.5, due to it being delivered only just two weeks after ours. That just seems more of an accurate description to us, as the differences do not seem to be super major, also the timing of the release, (two weeks), and lastly, the price points of both are the same. Ariel Rider also told us very early on, that after they sell out of the first batches, they will increase the price by $200.00, at the end of July, which also warrants the reason(s) why we call it the V 1.5. Because yours is still in the same price group as ours, just a later batch. Version identification is nothing to argue about, I’m merely just pointing out how we came to the determination as to why we call yours what we call it, as we anticipate a true 2.0 may have significant differences to both of ours, and a price hike to justify it.
We have also confirmed, there are currently three different iterations of the Kepler’s rear light as well, one being the preproduction all red, rear tail light, then one being the red reflector and clear outermost illuminated area (like mine), and then yours, with the turn signals included.
IMO, Ariel Rider needs better quality control protocols, be more standardized and consistent in what they are putting out to the public, and more transparent in their marketing.
You can also visit the unofficial “Ariel Rider Kepler Owners” Facebook page, to find out more details about either of our bikes and to link your videos.
See you around.
whats the app called?
@@ericwong9755
“Bike wise Pro” I believe.
OOOHHHHHH!!!!!. I was going crazy trying to find info about the V2! Mine just arrived TODAY! Time to assemble!
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Thnx for the info Bigteedo. Appreciate your time. I'm waiting for mine (blue/black) by end of July beginning of August. One thing I ain't too happy is that I order mine mid June and still don't have a specific date for delivery. I'm using my local bikeshop address to receive my ARK to avoid missing the delivery guy while on vacation. Again thnx for the video and looking forward to more. Happy Independence Day!!!
I concur. I didn’t know about the V2 until watching your review. Appreciate the content and review.
Thanks!
Yo dude, thanks for the great V1 - V2 comparison. I might just wait for V3.
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You might pay $300 more🤔
I will have to check all this when mine comes. I will put out a walk around video after assembly.
Very clear explanation. Thanks for the good video. I like all the changes except for the battery stickers.
Thanks! yeah i think i will use another sticker to cover those battery stickers!
Each bike is custom 1-off made. They still use bike assemblers to put certain things on it, then the tools and accessories. Each assembler may be working on 3-5 bikes at a time to hit a number like 20-25 bikes assembled a week.
Great job. Very good information
Great job. I just assembled my kepler 2.0 today. Nice bike, and I agree there is stuff different not in any documentation I found. The self-release front wheel apparatus confused me at first. Nothing anywhere describing how to properly tension it.
when did your bike ship @KMH
@@ericwong9755 I received it about June 25th, Ariel said it wouldn't ship til the end of June, so it arrived early
Great video ,!
Very informative!
I'm ordering one soon
Awesome thanks!
Transform your ride with Kepler and the unmatched power of Bafang 1000W custom hub motors. Capable of delivering up to 1800 watts of peak power, this high-performance motor ensures unparalleled acceleration and hill-climbing capabilities. With Kepler, you won't just ride, you'll dominate the road.
FYI folks, I received it about June 25th, so maybe 1.0s are passe at this point.
How do I make sure to get a 2.0 or is any new order automatically gonna get me a 2.0 like is it a second version or just a new version and is the 2.0 is all they manufacture?
Excellent overview, best out there on this bike. I don't like to peddle much unless I have to, how is this with hills, I know a mid drive is best for hills, but mid drive isn't recommended for guys like me that mainly only use throttle. Love the rear rack & option for front basket.
Big thanks!! Yes this bike is very capable up hills!! Yes nice rear bike rack too! I should be doing a hill test Saturday if possible for another Subscriber so stay tuned thanks!
Thank you. Waiting on mine to arrive. I did get the same mirror you have. How was it to install? Do you have a special battery minder you keep it plugged into?
Thanks! Cool ..very easy to install, the ends of the handlebars have a cap just pop it out and slide bar end mirror in and tighten bolt until mirror is tight!
special battery minder?
I think (1) those CZcams reviewers got a pre-production version of the the bike. It was sent to them to to give their opinions and feedback of suggestions. (2) You more than likely have the production version of the bike. These companies usually run production of these bikes and if they run out of a number of certain parts, (Shocks, handlebars, tires, inter tubes, break systems, grips), to keep production they order those parts and continue production. For example, the hub motor may have been 1 of 250 custom made with that script on it, so the 251st bike would get whatever similar in-house or Bafang 1600w motor that custom one was built off of.
Very nice bike
Bigteedo! Another great video.
Please upload more videos of you cruising!
Thanks! no worries i got you! im uploading new ride video now your gonna like!
@@bigteedo_ev4905 I look forward to it.
You’ll accelerate A LOT faster if you put a little effort in and pedal when you’re accelerating. I only use gears 4,5,6&7. Plus you’ll get more range outta of it if you help the motor out a little bit. Throttle only eats up range…especially when taking off from dead stop and low speeds
Paul Doley,
True it all.
I will add, throttle only, especially at take off, lends itself to premature wear and motor burnout. Same as climbing up very steep and/or long grades, using only the throttle, as one would not be giving the motor any assistance pulling the cumulative weight of the bike and it’s operator, plus any additional payload on the rack.
Hello Bigteedo, thank you for the video. My question is do the factory handlebar grips have plugs on the ends to remove and add the rearview mirror or will I have to buy different grips? Thank you in advance.
Yes they have plugs so it's super easy to add mirrors
@@bigteedo_ev4905 Thank you as always, Bigteedo 👍
Some users report the bikes motor being louder than other ebikes. I wonder if this has to do with the new custom bafang motor. I suspect (and hope) it is the metal geared motor from the x class 52v that people report is also loud. The original Bafang only motors wouldn't have metal gears.
When i emailed Ariel Rider about motor they say it is plastic gears not the old metal gears but this is v2 Bafang motor with gears which supposed to be more durable { not more durable than metal of course} than there v1 plastic gears....I guess well have to see how they hold up!
@@bigteedo_ev4905 So both versions have plastic gears?
I think 1000 watt rear hub is just louder than a 500 or 750. And louder than a mid drive motor. Not much you can do about that. Except buy a smaller quieter bike with less power or buy one that costs twice as much and get a stealthier one
I have (2) Kelper's from the first batch sold (V1's). I checked my bikes for the changes noted in your video and found couple of other items that are different from your bike.
My seat posts and clamps are labeled ProMax
My controller password is 2020.
The firmware version on my bike is "HMI Version 4.1.8" what version is your bike?
Ok I do see the Promax stick on my seat post. My firmware is 4.1.10
and I got no handlebar mirror, was that an add-on?
Yes its an add-on
I noticed they don’t have different sizes available for the bike. How tall are you because I’m trying to see if the bike is a good size?
Yes they only one size Huge lol
I. 5"8 and have to tip toe when I stop but I refused to get step thru version but I suggest that others do if your not tall
Ariel Rider Kepler is thumb throttle handle grip throttle?
Half twist throttle
Hi man, really this bike can go 30+ MPH throttle only. I’m hooked.
Yup its a beast ! Best ebike for the money right now in my opinion
@@bigteedo_ev4905 fosure man.. i got Letric 2.0xp right now can only go 20MPH T.. I used throttle most of the time.. im heavy full grown old man 😆 hopefully this bike can go 30+ MPH throttle only.
How does this compare to Magicycle or Himiway Cruisers?
Sorry not sure I would say they are all similar but different components
Magic Cycle only has a 90 day warranty on all parts, except the frame and battery. I read the fine print on many of the 750w bikes and they are all the same 90 days.
No way I would buy anything with a 90 day warranty on the motor lol
@@maildrop3541 what would you recommend? Does Kepler have a longer warranty?
Has Anyone Identified The Makers Of The Batteries 🔋 🤔 I Was Lead To Believe They Were Supposed To Be LG Made Batteries?
Thx For The Videos, Really Helps Out...
Nice bike but the market is flooded with so many ebikes it's hard to make a choice..so far it's this bike or the AR 52v
Do you think you can possibly make a small short video on how to correctly adjust the stem on the v2? Watching the video by Ariel Rider on stem angle it's completely different then the v2 (mine aswell). You seem to have yours angled and figured out. Also the two side bolts that show the angle degrees functions completely different then the original video released.
Also on the front wheel part, i was losing my mind watching their video and trying to get mine on. Originally when opening the packaging at the bottom of the box was the skewer which i had no idea what it was and it was all bent from being in the bottom of the box, so i couldn't even use it
yeah i hear ya do you still need me to make video?
@@bigteedo_ev4905 Or you can simply type the steps for it. Do we use a screw on both sides of the bolt that has the angle degrees or what.
Well you have said about this bike to me do not look like an upgrade especially the turning signal it looks cheap as hell my turn signal is way better than this. They should did better with the version 2 lazy work they did with the accessories the bike looks okay how much you pay for it thanks for the info
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The turn signal seems weak
yes i agree
Hey, I heard a rumor that there is a version 1.5. Is this true?
Jaime (Ariel Rider Ebikes)
Jun 20, 2022, 10:11 PDT
Hello,
You will be receiving the 2nd gen Kepler.
2nd gen they call it.
We're is the VS part. You only compare This bike to Itself. #pleasefibemeathunmbsdown
ppl like you are why they cost so fucking much!!!
Why do you say that? Not sure what you mean.
@@Pidgeys yes