WHAT WILL THE META BE AT MSI? CAEDREL REACTS TO MSI PATCH NOTES (14.8)
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Yea we're never getting Draven are we
man it sucks cause g2 hansama draven is iconic
Why are you even going there if you're still gonna lose against China and Korea...why bother đ
@@kacperantkowicz7997 Why even comment nonsense? Why even bother?
@@northdev559 thats the truth
W/ that they can still beat LCK and LPL 4th seeds probably
caedrel hasnt seen me play azir, shit looks so insanely not broken
underrated comment. lmao!
as a T1 fan, baron buffs legit terrifies me.
I agree but I'm holding hope somehow they will manage it anyway lmao that would be funny if they can there always seems to be some loop hole haha
Can't wait to see the resurrection of Syndra at MSI
If only showmaker is there
Showmaker đ
Galio buffed, camille buffed, draven buffed, thresh buffed....T1 ARE YOUR NEW MSI CHAMPS......
void grubbs buffed, baron damage increased, azir laning nerved - I think not, that runs completely counter to their style - except for the Galio/Ryze it's an LPL patch through and through
baron buff ruins the classic t1 baron, azir nerf too, i think not lmao
@@forg_tful.even with that t1 are heavy favorites.
â@@zygbeee8563people were saying the finals would be 3-0 gen g like 5 days ago wdym heavy favourites hahahahah
â@@forg_tful. yeah but thats domestic GenG. T1 are almost always favorites at international events
I hope we get to see less Azirâs and more Sylas/Akali in the pro play scene
I dont think so.. Azir ult is game changing even when you are behind, just set up a good one ult and boom you just won the game
@@pikapikabuu You play according to the meta. If you pick non-meta champs and give your opponents all the meta champs then it is a quick ticket to the airport unless you are so fkin good that you can win on everything and in every meta (nobody is)
â@@gaoaibai6243t1 you could almost argue (like in worlds)
â@@gaoaibai6243you don't understand the fundamental on off meta, even if some champ doesn't buff but in term of team fight, some champ do have a big impact, T1 won worlds by using non meta champ is truly the good example, rely on meta doesn't mean you can win, drafting will be a main factor once MSI start
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5:35
They changed Jhins Q DMG, so that it does 44, 69 .... , 144 dmg lol
The double combo of having 4444 and 69 in the stats.
They really stick to their lore a lucky number 4
I want to see Faker on Hwei more
Hwei, Galio, Ryze, Leblanc buffed xddFaker
The fact that Galio is buffed is giving me massive hopium that Faker will play him in at least one game during MSI. His Galio was just hella fun to watch back when it was viable in pro play. Now all we need is for Ryze to come back as a viable pick and he might just cook lmao
I like these lowering cooldown changes
Caedrel: Kaisa okay leblanc
I hope to see some twitch kog at msi, really strong ads and good into jinx
100% they will not be picked when you have so other better options
@@junkyman231 around 56% wr for both with good sample size, onlz champs with positive winrate into jinx, hyper scalers, decent early game a lot of range, very good into basically every "meta" adc
Those champ are immobile so it will be hard to play them. And they don't have any tools to set up ganks
@@annaran85the issue is that they get abused early by current jg meta. twitchs wave clear is inconsistent and kog could work but kog needs to pair with lulu and needs prio and that is hard with picks like galio coming into meta. We will see tho. maybe
I'm being late here, so a little bit lf quick analysis:
Top seems like more volatile with Camille joins the fray
JG may have more early game champ picks when Mid has more roaming focused plays like Galio LB Akali Ryze.
Bot may remains the same, unless Jhin Draven Thresh buff is enough to tip over the Jinx Zeri meta, which is uncertain to say
Movement speed is king!
not me thinking his game sounds are mine and checking the client
I call it now some pick in top lane that wasnât picked hardly at all (or none) will surface in semis and warp the whole meta of the tournament.
I know right that would be cool
we're never seeing the rat kit doing fitness are we
This is Caedrel reviewing T1 chances at MSI with this patch
Remember BB's Cassiopeia top?
I feel like Galio has been OP for a while, and tank mid has been super viable since this new rift, yet no one played him. Why?
Because you have no prio. Meanwhile Enemy Talia is helping the enemy jg 4 man dive bot.
â@@tenzinchoezin1454 Wdym? Galio can follow with R and he has good push.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 his damage isnât that great and you arenât gonna play him tanky mid. Situationally I can see him getting picked but youâd need to load a AP top or pair it with AP JG which is terrible for mid 2v2. It just depends on the player and how teams play around each other really
â@@itsgonnabeokay9341galio is so item dependant
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 Galio doesn't have good push bruh unless you build him full ap. Which would negate his buffs.
Vanguard testing in PH đ
They really nerfed zac when its still killable unlike kesante thats like a raid boss in tankiness and health. Bruh
Zac nerf doesnât do anything, less than 1 auto attack in hp regen every min when taking into consideration how his passive healing works with %missing hp means it has 0 impact on his laning in most matchups
@@imnphil4474 that's the point why nerf something that will not do anything when there's a champion that needs balancing and rescaling. Only thing they remove on ksante is his slow. Now is that balance enough for their eyes?
8:10 caedrel doesnt know how to look at sample size. ryze has 247 games. he is looking at the onetrick sample size which has a 55.92 wr
I will never understand how analysis conclude what is strong or not. I don't understand how Mord being able to take a player out of the game for 7 seconds is weak. Build him tank, pick a strong target, and don't engage. Any team that is relying on a carry lost their main damage. How does that not make a difference?
its 7 seconds of usefulness, also not mentioning that any mid/late game ad carry will literally melt a mordekaiser jn 7 seconds, even if built tank. (pro play ad carries take a lot more resources than solo queue). Add that with the incredibly telegraphed shit cc, mediocre damage and only skillshots, he just doesnt provide much for pro play. No mobility either
@@adamsiklosi5366 So lets say he gets half of that. It's still 3.5 seconds. Hell, a 1/4 of it is still 1.75. If you added that much too a stun I don't think people would call it useless.
Also, lets say you use it before late game. Lets say you use it to win a couple of dragons and a baron. Even a few team fights could make a huge difference.
And isn't it point and click? So I don't see how it's telegraphed. And even if it was, it's point and click, so it can't be dodged. If a player is nearby and Morde wants him in, he's going in.
I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just saying what the metric is that defines what is good and what is bad seems inconsistent. And I just wonder if a player/coach wouldn't play something because people say it's bad. But how do you know that for sure. Even 2-4 seconds of removing an enemy from the team fight is not nothing.
@@mike9512 I think the problem is that, it's only a viable option if you're losing,. I an enemy is feed, it's great to take them out so your team can fight outside, but, why would you let the enemy be feed in the first place?
If they aren't, and it's an equal match up, what's the point on separating them for so long? If with a stun you could kill them, there's no need to separate them.
@caedrel fiora does not counter camille, as a fiora main I used camille as a counterpick if someone picked my champ. The stats support this as well. camille 55%wr against fiora
Druttut says otherwise
2018 IG won semis and finals with no scaling I think aside from kaisa
But kaisa was the best ad scaling champ by far , it was her release in 2018 , I remember that champ was one shooting tanks in matter of 4 sec in late game.
Would love to see a Camille/Galio meta at MSI, far more interesting than the same old Azir/Corki in mid with a tank top.
Potential Bin Camille? Game over.
So LPL winning again I guess for MSI?
will GenG not choke?
or will T1 clutch it yet again especially in a carry top meta with zeus...if we don't see fking ksante top endlessly.
Zeus would still find a way to play aatrox eevry game even if its not viable...
why is checking wr% on the patch day?queres?
he is just pepega. but i guess it does show a little bit on the graphs if the champ has higher win rate or no
The LPL tournament where G2 are the favourites and LCK & LCS gets to participate
Why cant they nerf to the ground the kaisa w ap scaling and buff the q and e, cause honestly in pro play kaisa is one of the most fun adc to watch
Agree but ap kaisa is one the most boring champs in pro play to watch
Camille win rate/pick rate went up because of the placebo effect of the buff list lol. People see any buff or nerf, and automatically think it's god/dog shit
Hoping for camille galio meta in MSI
Why does europe not get draven?
Because Hans's Draven is perma ban by the whole world
@@nexomv536 Just not true last year MSI 2/2 lose, they dont really care about it
Im from the Phippines Server as a Player there's a lot of Cheaters in my country Scripters and Aimbot so thats why Riot Games 1st Target Release Vanguard in the Philippines Server, to stop using cheats same as VALORANT too
Bro didnât even read SylasâŠ
Sylas only change is just a few more dmg to mobs in the jungle nothing else changed, and still wont make him viable as jungler.
Should have nerfed K'sante just enough for it not to be viable,so sick of that champion.Zeri got hit with nerf but that thing wasn't.
What website is he using to check on champions winrates ??
After looking for it myself I think it's Lolalytics
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3:50 i realized that ms is the best stat in s12
Vanguard in the Philippines within 24 hours: So many games had Remakes due to players that can't run the game properly
bb cassio top
After all these years of better nerf Azir he is still top1 mid lane pick. My god this company has no clue..
Jankos and wunder back to g2.
As much as I love T1, if the meta ain't a Keria meta aka "weird supports" meta, they might get bodied by LPL and GENG.
T1 honestly might not care much for MSI, they almost never wins in MSI anyways... Also, they got hit hard with the baron buff, and the only members of t1 that would like the buffs in this patch are zeus and faker, and not even by that much since that baron buff just kills their team's playstyle of rushing/sneaking baron...
I think the opposite , keria will fin more picks because zeri is nerfed and that's means botlane is open for weird support picks , and he has an insane thresh but the main thing for keria is that guma got his champions buffed draven jhin , which can be paired with a lot of the weird supp champs.
T1s only Playstyle is loose every lane and win 1 Fight to come back. If that doesn't happen, rip
Philippines mentioned??? RAHHH đ”đđ”đđ”đđ”đđ”đ
cringe
Tbf Majority of Pro teams are incapable to play Majority of Comps , aside from that people are entitled to what they can / want to play , there is alot of stuff thats rlly good and way better then some of the stuff we see but Pros REFUSE to for the weirdest reasons.
Sadly the Asian Regions are to Strict and have been winning so they wont change tomuch.
but the west idk Does nothing and wont even try ... Nothing to lose still scared
Yeah I agree, probably the picks won't change much until someone will consistently win on a new champ.
Of course some goddamn silver knows better
@@bensonvong LS fan probably
What picks are super secret op that eastern teams arent picking?
@@signaturr Teemo lets goo!!
pinoy here hahaha
It is like Rito themselves are betting on BLG because with Camille and Fiora buffed, Reksai still remains decent while Azir gettin serious nerfs, neutral objectives are now harder to take... I think everything is just playing into the LPL's favor tbh. GENG and T1 are the most affected nobody on either of these teams play Camille or Fiora, Azir being an LCK staple and laning being faster especially Leblanc I think this champ might be the S tier pick that is hugely contested by everybody, except the LCK teams because nobody play Leblanc in the entire fkin League.
Zeus play a good Fiora..or used to since she is not been really viable in pro for a while.. lets see if he can still play it.
What are you smoking dude?
Lil bro so young he forgot Faker's Leblanc
Zeus can play Camille an fiora. Chovy and Faker have a huge champ pool. If azir is still viable sucks for blg since knight doesn't play azir
Honestly super disappointed skarners gonna be disabled
I feel like Caedrel is coping. Interesting champs in the toplane? A CARRY in the toplane? Nah, no shot. Its going to be tanks, tanks, Aatrox, Jayce, TF, and more tanks.
faker galio 1v9 I will be there
Hello Guma Draven, Keria Thresh, Faker Ryze, Galio and Leblanc (this man has so many pocket picks omg) and ONER JARVAN !!!
Faker is like the third best Leblanc at MSI btw lol
â@@ojfeh
Faker - 1st
Showmaker - 2nd
Chovy - 3rd
Wdym?
@@heyasantiKnight and Chovy have been better than Faker at leblanc for like 5 years now. The fact that Faker was undefeated on a champion in season 5 is not particularly relevant in season 14 lol.
Ain't NO WAY that Caedrel believes that eastern teams are going to ban Draven against Hans.
They are, at worlds Draven was open one game for G2
Ofc they are. They did at worlds
Clueless đ.
Ofc, they know it's the only champion he performs without baby sitting. Once Draven is banned he's free elo
They are, Hans Sama on Draven is on par with Asian Adcs, take him out and is just a bit better than a cannon minion.
i guess we have a lot of scripters here in PH
They most likely want to test it out on a smaller server before they go live with bigger regions.
Smaller server means smaller damage control in case something goes wrong. Could also mean that your server have the least scripters so it's easer to test and collect data.
Played since 2017 in Ph and only encountered 2 scripters.
Faker buffs just in time for msi. T1 FIGHTING â€
Sadge skarnar isnt gonna be at msi
caedrel has no clue about mordekaiser champ clueless
Jinx and Asol being kept alive just so pros can play her at MSI is disguisting from Riot...
Chovy will be happy lol
These cowards won't buff Ziggs, so scared of APA.
I still feel like jhin is such a bad champ, everytime i see him getting picked in worlds or msi he is useless
Not everything is about t1 lil bro
Galio ,Ryze and Jhin buff đ€đ€đ€
They literally had to make Azir actually unplayable in order to get him out of pro in the first place
They did that last year where he was like the worst champ in the game for 4 or 5 months
azir is trash, he is only good on papper, he lost what 80% of the games he was in in this split in all regions? so yeah...
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idk how he can say "leblanc being meta opens up a whole world of midlaners" and not be lying? leblanc and orianna are the staple "idk what to pick so ill pick safe and job security" picks in mid. it literally cuts the mid meta down since pro players are dumb and insecure. only way i could see his statement being true is if he means the literal players are now more unlocked since everyone can play leblanc.
This idea that champions are "job security" is probably something LS said about a certain pick in a specific scenario and you or the community has just associated it with the champion and ran with it. A lot of really good midlaners that have no threat of losing there job like faker, knight and chovy for example play champions like orianna and leblanc yet have 0 threat of ever losing there job/spot.
Faker was not locking in Orianna game 5 in the finals out of "job security" reasons.
@@vPzWalkerx These Silver brains watch LS costream LCS and then just parrot everything he says but do it for every region. These guys are on par with Elon Musk glazers.
Its g2 gen tes favored. Lane swap will make camille unplayable and easily to get topside objects
Love camille will destroy G2
G2 favoured? Tf are you on about you think Hans Draven is gonna change anything? Camille and Fiora gettin buffs mean the LPL is prime favourite maybe the Ryze buff may give G2 some hopes but... does Caps even play Ryze though? I remember the Wunder Ryze but Caps I dont have a clue tbh. Leblanc is def not his champ and Galio... God sake if they are actually playing Galio mid then it is fkin DOOM for the West period.