Sleeper Hits of 2022 | EDHRECast 236
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- We all know the heavy hitters, but which cards out there are secretly powerhouses sneaking just below the radar?
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I love these kinds of épisodes. Feels like a giant Challenge the Stats. We need more of these !
My sleeper is "Rabble Rousing". It's in 3% of elligible decks and should be in every token, go-wide, and creature-heavy deck with access to white. It's so good.
The amount of times my hide away card has been craterhoof or halo fountain in my Jinnie fey deck is astounding. I love rabble rousing
The one game i've gotten rabble out, it was amazing. That thing is crazy.
I remember that card was a few dollars when it came out, and I figured it out would be a hit, so I grabbed several when the price fell. I’m shocked to see it’s been so overlooked!
Rabble-rousing is an absolute nuisance to go up against, and that's how I know it's powerful. It's like Scute Swarm in that if left alone, it exponentially goes off the rails.
@@OneoftheVoice Bro!! Me too!! Oh look who it is, it's free cast Jetmir. Yes all those dogs are 6/1 double strikers, sorry.
Seize the Spotlight is my pick for the year. It is in 2% or decks, and while it is not for everything the top commanders seem to be about treasures. It truly shines in a sacrifice deck. When you have the sac outlet on board and everyone has their commander or at least one good creature, you toss it down with a gun pointed at their commanders and politely ask if you can have a card and a treasure. This makes you three treasures for three mana and draws you three cards. And if they don't negotiate, you take their best creature and toss them into your meat grinder.
Moral of the Episode: Baldur's Gate was a good set, everyone's just really mean.
My thoughts exactly. I actually keep going back to this set for interesting commanders.
It was a good set but it was not commander legends set
@@Russian_engineer_bmstu In what way? It had a bunch of new cards designed specifically for commander, that are really only any good in commander, and can be drafted... for commander.
Just because CL1 had a handful of valuable reprints in it doesn't mean a lack of such reprints exempts future CL sets from being, well, CL sets. It's that exact mindset that got Baldur's Gate buried in the first place.
@@ToxicAtom you know, cl1 set sertain expectations. Cl2 did not live up to them. We not only did not get reprints, we barely got staple cards, or cards trying to be staples in a color.
We did not get a new wheel, white ramp...
Dragon cycle and archivist is the stuff that is most thought after, and they are... OK? 6-8 mana bombs and white somewhat draw
Not wheels of misfortune or will cycle
@@Russian_engineer_bmstu I feel like your expectations for the set are not in line with how sets are actually designed. Cards aren't designed with the intent of becoming staples. The game would be worse off if they were. The designers make cards that they think will be fun. That doesn't inherently translate into dollar value. Also, looking at a set based on exactly what chase cards are in it is an awful way to look at a set. This is a game, and sets should be judged by what the bring to the game mechanically, not monetarily. If you wanna buy/sell/trade high fantasy images for cash, go invest in NFTs, magic's not for you.
Another thing, White needs more card draw options, not ramp. White is like, the second best ramp color, considering it's the only non-green color that puts lands from the library onto the battlefield in any capacity. If Red, Black, and Blue can get along fine with just rocks, White can as well. Complaining there's no white ramp in the set is pointless, because there also wasn't any red ramp, or black ramp. (there was that one blue legend that tapped for colorless though, make of that what you will)
Lol. Just built a balmor deck that runs both candle keep and inspired tinkering
Guys, Body Launderer NEEDS to be in more than 7500 decks. It's basically the black Karmic Guide. I have a Raffine, Scheming Seer deck, and this thing is regularly pulling Ancient Brass Dragon out of the yard at instant speed, which will then bring the Launderer back. It's a bonkers card
No, the black Karmic Guide is Phyrexia Delver.
Body Launderer is still good, though.
Astral Dragon is definitely a sleeper hit. I have that card in Volo, made a second copy with Volo and with Panharmonican out, made like 6 Sol Rings Token 3/3s, and was drawing cards like crazy with Elemental bond. Then I casted a Shapeshifter creature, copied Astral Dragon on etb twice because of Volo, made more 3/3s, and nearly decked myself out with the Elemental bond triggers. Also one of my opponents was playing Phelddagrif, so they were making me draw extra cards at my upkeep. My last turn before I decked myself, I had four cards left in my library🤣 it was great match, my board state had so many 3/3s from my small army of Astral Dragons
Roadside reliquary is an auto include for me in basically all 1 and 2 color decks
Roadside Reliquary is honestly kind of a lowkey banger. I used to play Memorial to Genius type lands a lot in the past, but they usually come in tapped and cost a ton of mana to activate for just two cards. Roadside doesn't actually ask for too much in a lot of decks, and the mana cost is so aggressive for a land ability. I play it in my Ao deck, which has a lot of artifacts and enchantments...and small permanent recursion. When you get to also Sun Titan/Sevinne's Reclamation this card multiple times, it feels real good.
In the right deck, it's a forecastable Divination on a colorless land.
the problem with background cards is people do not fully understand how the background mechanic works.
most people think that you can only use background cards with commanders that allow you to take a background card.
I feel honored to have my challenge show up on the show! And no less being said by my favorite cast member. Love this show, and love this episode!
This summer I made my first Commander deck on my own, without the heavy reliance on my more experienced friends. It was a simic Jaheira & feywild visitors elf/fairy tribal deck. I love it dearly and im so happy to see feywild visitor get some spot light here! It's a great card
I think I need to add it to my ninja deck with ninjutsu those 1/1s can become any creature in the deck
Robe of the Archmagi on Adeliz, the Cinder Wind sounds like a ton of fun. And a ton of cards.
True story: three copies of Robe of the Archmagi were in my Baldur's Gate folder. On top of the folder were my decks, including my daughter's Alela, Artful Provocateur deck. Neither of us realised Alela was a warlock despite having been playing that deck as her favourite since Alela came out. 😂
I saw the card when it came out and my first thought was my beloved Alela deck, but watch out because I decked myself the first time I used it xD
I've been theory-crafting an Alela deck, and when I got to Robe of the Archmagi my eyes started to twinkle and I turned into a flying newt and then I had to go on an epic adventure with a bullfrog and a weasel to get back to reality. It's such a sublime joy to discover that Robe of the Archmagi practically pounces onto Alela.
Joey looked so scared of the dad joke....
An episode of the EDHRECast makes my day better. Keep up the good work!
Edit: OMG feywild is actually so good in my own Silumgar deck! Thank you edhrecast!
I agree with Endless Ranks of the dead being removed, every now and again it can go off but more often than not the value I get out of it is minimal.
If you take the challenge the stats from the comments, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove is only played in 18% of 5 color decks. This doesn’t make sense to me because it makes your lands tap for any color. It also allows you to play an additional land each turn so that you can get your commander out quickly.
Very fair. It's also almost 20$ though. Might be why it doesn't show up even more...
@@jw5087 True, but people run cards like rhystic studies and cyclonic rift more often even though they cost more. And this is me looking at 5 color decks in specific.
18% actually seems kind of high to me for the card.
@@andrewp979 there is a card with a less powerful effect (chromatic lantern) that is in 60% of 5 color decks. That’s part of why I’m trying to get this stat challenged.
@@XulchenMinecrafting chromatic lantern is overplayed, and is cheaper and better in the average deck
Astral Dragon+Panharmonicon in my Yarok list is just chef's kiss...
I love how much you guys are trying to share with people how good baldur’s gate was
Here's a fun combo. Angel of Suffering plus Wheel of Sun and Moon.^^
You don't take damage EVER and anything you mil from your library just.... cycles back into your library.^^
Run with Rest in Peace just to really rub it in... since you effectively won't have a graveyard anyway.^^
So many of these sleepers I've been ruling my play group with lol great vid
Yall have so many good videos on this channel! This video in particular managed to get me excited about several decks I already own, let alone giving ideas for fun new ones.
Haunted One is so good in tribal decks with commanders who can tap on command!
I don't know what it would take technically, but it would be a slam dunk for episodes like this if you had a link to a sponsor's card selling website that magically put all the mentioned cards into your cart. Or even just providing the list to the vendor so they could make an item you could package purchase that contains all the cards.
Love backgrounds in 99.
Running Master Chef in Kodama West hydra tribal which makes itself and other creatures modified off the bat.
Agent of the iron throne is great in my Strefan deck because it just refuels my blood tokens each turn.
Agent of the shadow thieves is also great for protecting commanders that I want to swing with each turn, like Strefan and Hapatra
Great episode, definitely gonna be adding Angel of Suffering to my collection now.
That was a fun game to watch
OMG just actually read haunted one. Immediately going in my Orah deck
Something interesting concerning Astral Dragon...
Not only can it can copy LANDS you're also in the best color to get around the legend rule.^^
Also a LOT of the really nice black lands aren't ACTUALLY legendary... like Cabal Coffers.^^
Inspired tinkering in prosper tome bound decks is wild.
Shadow prophecy, a common in Dominaria united is a solid 2B look at top X card where X is equal to basic land typss. Put two in hand rest in grave.
In a 2colour plus its a insta speed draw and filter. Great for reanimation and in two colour is just straight up draw 2.
Not op. But good for draw power and its an instant
Haunted one in marrow gnawer is INSANE.
Couldn’t agree more about Endless Ranks. I used to run it in Varina…it never performed. So I removed it. Shame because the name is so cool!
Endless Ranks is amazing when you're ahead. When you're at pairity or behind it's terribad.
HOLY COW!! Candlekeep Inspiration is going in Rielle RIGHT now!
Feywild Visitor is a low-key MVP in my Neera Polymorph Dragons deck
I also play feywild visitor in my dragon deck! Mine is a miirym deck.
Deck list?
@@brandondavis6952 I think my reply keeps getting deleted when I post a link. Sorry. But my deck lists are on moxfield under VenomTurtle
My favorite Background currently is Cloakwood Hermit, I just recently picked it up for my Chatterfang deck...gotta love getting multiple squirrels
-Inspired Thinkering is a beast of a spell on exile matters decks. I'm using it on Liara Portyr and I couldn't be more happy, what an overperformer
-For the Emperor! is amazing. An Overrun without trample is awkward, but and Overrun with vigilance is great
-Roadside Reliquary is my favourite card from NEO. Amazing, more even so after Serra Paragon (which by itself feels also feels like a sleeper)
Literally a Baldur's Gate review show, and I'm here for it. :)
Tomb of Horrors Adventurer is absurdly underrated right now. I mean, just ignore the dungeon part. You are copying the second spell you cast each turn. That's amazing. And when it enters the battlefield, you even search for a land, because why not fix your mana too?
Seasoned Dungeoneer is also an amazing underrated card from CLB. It searches for a land, then draws more lands and fixes your top card with explore, and makes itself unblockable so you can always take back the initiative if someone takes it from you. Just a fantastic card in any remotely aggressive white deck.
Really, the initiative is just underrated as a mechanic. It's so good.
The first time I played ToH Adventurer, I followed it up with a clone effect that same turn and got two more copies of ToH Adventurer.
great content as always
I've loved Astral Dragon in my Ur-Dragon deck. Pair that sucker with Dragon Tempest to watch the world burn, copy some Herald's Horn to quickly fill your hand with discounted dragons, or straight up win the game with infinite Cursed Mirrors! Truly a terrific card!
Guys, Dynaheir, Invoker Adept!
Still only about 400 Decks as commander on EDHRec. Blows my mind. It’s so fun and one great build around! Not even talking about extra turns stuff, I don’t play that. Phyrexian Processor, wand of wonders and many more, combine with Untap-Teferi and let’s go!
Protection racket is so fun in Belakor!
I’ve really enjoyed Dissipation Field lately. In a combat heavy pod, damage turns into bounced creatures which adds a fun wrinkle to blocking as well.
It’s also worked in ways I hadn’t planned, like against Syr Konrad and Brallin.
Seize the spotlight and indulge//excess have put in work for me in my tokens deck, the former if used right is just a free draw 3 and color fix
Feywild Visitor is good because it progressively makes more dragons as you get more evasive attackers.
Actually in the process of putting together a Ganax/Feywild visitor izzet dragons and treasures deck. I liked the look of that card as well. And look forward to giving it a play.
I saw Protection Racket for what it was as soon as I read the card. I'm surprised this is the first I've heard anyone talk about it. Every single time I've played it, it draws me cards AND deals damage. Losing a land to it shouldn't hurt your feelings. You're still getting your draw for turn right after. It works politically when one of your opponents needs more pressure. I've put it in every one of my black decks.
Tenuous Truce is my sleeper recommendation! It puts in work, especially if you can get it down early. I play it in Myrkul and it’s perfect with a commander who takes a few turns to get set up.
I run Astral Dragon on my Polyclad deck: Brudiclad with polymorph effects, that turn tiny 2/1 tokens into big creatures like Astral Dragons! Those extra enchantment tokens most likely ends the game, every time
Inspired tinkering, respond with fury storm in a rograhk and thrasios deck = lots of treasure lots of pseudo draw.
Totally agree with the For the Emperor! pick. I kill people all the time with war horn blast in my Ranar Foretell deck. And that’s a foretell card no one ever sees coming!
Haven't watched yet, but I really hope they mention Make an Example. It is one of the best removal spells for multiplayer Magic in the last couple of years. Yes, it's Sorcery, and yes, it's 4 mana... But it's so powerful and gets around almost every form of protection.
A buddy of mine got a lucky hand and with a turn 1 sol ring and he was able to cast an Astral dragon in his Myrim the Sentinel Wurm deck a few weeks ago, he targeted his parallel lives like you mention lol.
For the Emperor! Seems kinda good for taking out one person while keeping defenses up, but it doesn’t feel like the kind of finisher people are looking for. I might try it in Marneus.
I like Angel of Suffering in my Muldrotha deck. It powers up Gary and Syr Konrad a lot.
i agree i run ''endless ranks of the dead'' and i been finding it whiffs, comfirmed my feeling im replacing it with ''wand of orcus'' which is amazing
Candlekeep Inspiration and Feywild Visitor are 100% going in my new Balmor deck omg
"Overrun effect" usually involves some aspects that make the attack unblockable/trample/flying ect. Just giving raw stats simply does not do enough in a lot of cases. A lot of green decks (13%) use Avenger of Zendikar, zombie decks have more zombie than they know what to do with, pretty much every single tribal deck uses token effects... So even if you have a 20/20, if I can put a saproling in the way, the "finisher" simply does not finish anything. Gaining life/keeping blockers up is fine, but I don't use congregate in my decks as I need life.
I fell asleep watching this last night. Is that a flavor win? (I was tired not bored!)
You know after hearing about candle keep Inspiration I might try it in Riku of two Reflections. I use Crater hoof atm and some games I notice I'm not quite at 8 mana or have enough creatures to win.
My Wilhelt aristocrats deck doesn't use Endless Ranks of the Dead, Necroduality is much better.
I think backgrounds, in general, are massively being underrated. The first deck I put them in was my Kelsien deck and omg do they do work.
When you have a deck that requires that the commander be on the battlefield the way Kelsien does, Haunted One just might be the most important card in the deck. I have all kinds of ways to dodge single target removal, but he can still get taken out by wraths. Since he has a tap ability that I can use at any time in response, the undying effect is pretty much always available. When he comes back he’s untapped, so I can use him again, and I can flicker him to get rid of the +1/+1 counter. The deck doesn’t lean into tribal synergies all that much, but there’s other humans and assassins in there too, so bonus.
Cultist of the Absolute has a ton of benefit in his deck too. It gives him a deathtouch source that’s independent of him, letting me keep the effect as he leaves and re-enters the battlefield. He gets evasion, which I can use to get in commander damage, or I keep him as a blocker to eat just about any attacker on land or in the sky. Ward makes my opponents think even harder about trying to get rid of him since it will cost them 3 life just to target him and the boost isn’t too shabby either. The deck has ways of making tokens that can be potential prey or stolen to build my own army/sacrifice fodder.
The last one I have is Far Traveler. This gives him an end of turn flicker, that I can use on him to reset him (maybe finish off that 2/2 creature for double the experience counters) or I can reset another card like Species Specialist, which might have exhausted the initial prey, or Dockside Extortionist, for ramp. Again, it’s an effect that is always on so long as I control my commander, and the deck does everything it can to keep him on board.
Really inspiring conversation guys! I was wondering if you have a list available for your Wilhelt the Rotcleaver deck? I also recently came to the same conclusion about Endless Ranks OTD… but in my bid to change up my deck I feel like I’ve made it a bit clunky and now I feel like I need some help with it😓
Candlekeep Inspiration is so going into my Talrand deck...my goodness I did not know that card existed!!
i literally just finished my ellyn harbreeze/ feywild visitor flying tribal artisan deck and GOD feywild visitor puts in so much work
My favorite card of the year would probably be Containment Construct aka Mad Robot. Mentioned here and there, but it's so unique to a niche playstyle that it really does change the pace of play.
Absolutely love Master Chef in my Pir and Toothy deck!
Mask of the Schemer is great for Brallin&Shabraz decks.
For the Emperor! is a lifegain card. No evasion means it doesn't get through full boards
Fairly new but Shadow in the Warp is amazing for creature decks... acting as a second sol ring in a way.
Played a game against Daina's dimir dragon deck at CommandFest Vegas a few months ago. Protection racket was an all star. I literally went out and bought a bunch after that game.
As someone who loves Endless Ranks... Yeah, it's bad.
Never actually played with endless ranks of the dead, i use necroduality rather than reflections but it's the same thing. I'd run both but the redundancy gets same-y.
I would love to challenge the stats for Lord Windgrace decks. Currently 8 total windgrace decks run Library of Leng, which I think is a very sad thing to see, given the commander makes you discard, and being able to keep the lands you discard from him seems very spicy
waw, Haunted one is going right into willhelt, I just bought Saw in half for that deck as well. imagine if you had something that could give -1/-1 counters as well, then you could give your creatures -1/-1 counters, kill them, they come back with a +1/+1 counter = 0 counters and you could kill them again and bring them back again. with Gary, I'm sure the table is dead.
Ha! I've taken Endless ranks of the dead out of mine, but just recently
Rivaz of the claw should be in every Ziatora, the incinerator decks.
Turn 4 ziatora if you only drop lands.
Bam! Ziatora throws away Rivas for that value and basically turns it into treasures for future turns.
Can bring back a number of dragons from your graveyard.
So helpful.
I bet on Ingenious Artillerist before watching cause that card is nutz!
I am going to try For the Emperor! In my Trostani deck
Akromas Will outright wins games. Protection from all colors and double strike almost always hits for lethal. For the emperor is not even in the same ball park
Strionic resonator is a bananas add to an Alela artifact deck.
seems like i finally need to acquire Protection Racket for my "Rakdos, Lord of Riots" Deck. Phyrexian Arena can't reach that
Hi, can someone explain to me please, what kind of patreon support I have to choose at least for all the challenge stats in the past?
You want a sleeper? This bad boy is like 5 cents, slap some artifact on him which makes him ping everyone and start wheeling the table, or yourself.
Barbed Shocker
3R
Trample, haste
Whenever Barbed Shocker deals damage to a player, that player discards all the cards in their hand, then draws that many cards.
Akromas will gives double strike so it can give more of a pump than for an emperor
Biggest sleeper ever: the green Defiler 😂
Tear asunder is my sleeper pick. I think this card should be in almost any golgari deck no matter which powerlevel!
EDIT: I am leaning out of the window and claim it can even contest a slot with beast within!
Roadside reliquary + Crucible of worlds. 👍
My son runs Astral Dragon in his Miirym deck (as everyone who can is I'm sure 😃) and it's siiiiiick! 😂
The only thing i have against protection racket is that you bin so many lands
Gonna have to hard disagree with Endless Ranks. Everytime I play it, it makes no less than 5 zombies. I look at it more as a Coat of Arms, you don't just throw it out and hope for the best.
Astral dragon targeting doubling season
Gale’s redirection is a better spelljack.
Still waiting for black market connections on mtgo
Whoa did you say Un-Stuck?
Yo betterhelp better have payed extra for being uncluded in the reveal of the new unset.
Is that Syr Konrad card at 45:28 a real card? Where is that alternate art from?
How does animate dead work with astral dragon as its copies?
I may be wrong, but I think nothing would happen, well nothing aside from have two 3/3 animate dead creature tokens that will die. You can't have an aura creature aside from bestow which makes it not be a creature while its attached. When they enter as a state based action they will be put into the graveyard as a result of not being attached to a creature. If I am not mistaken that is why Opalescence doesn't affect auras. Probably the funniest thing I could think of is you cast swift reconfiguration on Astral Dragon, then clone the astral dragon on your opponents turn, targeting the vehicle astral dragon you'd get infinite 3/3 astral dragon vehicles, which you could use to have infinite mana or whatever by cloning lands or sol rings AND infinite Rocket Launchers, so that when you resolve the endstep and begin your turn you can win by using infinite rocket launchers. Why? Because what other deck has every use Rocket Launcher to win a game?
Since creatures can't be attached to permanents it wouldn't return anything to the battlefield
People scoop rather than figure out how it works 🤣
Endless Ranks of the Dead pretty consistently has failed me as well
I was going to suggest jadzi from kaldheim then I realized she came out 2 years ago... where does the time go