Did "TS-19" Play The Walking Dead's Cards Too Early?

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    The biggest question people have whenever it comes to zombie-related media is how it all started. What makes people come back to life after they’ve died? Across so many different zombie-related stories there’s always a different answer, or maybe more commonly, there’s no answer. So how did The Walking Dead deal with the virus origin?
    0:00 - 1:03 - Apocalypse Origins
    1:04 - 6:55 - TS19 Recap
    6:56 - 8:07 - Shane
    8:08 - 9:26 - Too Good To Be True
    9:27 - 12:26 - The Virus Explanation & Issues
    12:27 - 15:22 - Perfect Pacing & Ending
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  • @sinofcringe
    @sinofcringe Před 7 měsíci +1976

    DO NOT GRAB HAND GRENADES AND HEAD TO THE CDC BTW

    • @thethriftytypewriter
      @thethriftytypewriter  Před 7 měsíci +250

      I realized when I was watching it that might’ve not been the best thing to say 😂

    • @adwarriorlegend1
      @adwarriorlegend1 Před 7 měsíci +7

      LOL 🤣!!!!!! ❤❤❤✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️

    • @astroice
      @astroice Před 7 měsíci +48

      We do a little trolling

    • @randomka-52alligatorthatis34
      @randomka-52alligatorthatis34 Před 7 měsíci +34

      IN MINECRAFT IN MINECRAFT
      LMAO

    • @iceflame2485
      @iceflame2485 Před 7 měsíci +27

      what am i supposed to do with these grenades then

  • @driiifter
    @driiifter Před 7 měsíci +1149

    The CDC episode hit different for me. It had a depth to it. It's really the only time where the "enemy" of the show isn't random human settlements and gangs or walkers, the enemy is hopelessness in this episode. Jenner wants to blow them all up because he is out of hope, if the group runs out of hope, they never break out of there and just commit suicide, I'm pretty sure the black woman (I forget her name) chooses to end her own life despite of all of it.
    It's a great episode.

    • @drysoup3017
      @drysoup3017 Před 7 měsíci +118

      Jacqui was her name.

    • @flyingsky1559
      @flyingsky1559 Před 7 měsíci +87

      Sassy black laundry lady was her title

    • @aidanwarren4980
      @aidanwarren4980 Před 7 měsíci +51

      I would say the first episode with a human group antagonist is Vatos, when Rick, Daryl, Glenn, and T-Dog encounter a group of Hispanic survivors protecting the elderly residents of a group home while retrieving Rick’s bag of guns from Atlanta. Obviously that conflict resolved peacefully but it was the first time inter-group conflict appears on the show, and it establishes important themes that appear later.

    • @zolod.uchiha5102
      @zolod.uchiha5102 Před 7 měsíci +20

      @ aidanwarren4980 True. Tho sad fun fact. Vatos group got killed and never made it

    • @drysoup3017
      @drysoup3017 Před 7 měsíci +23

      @@zolod.uchiha5102 they actually had a seen where the group was looking for a place to stay after Jenners, and Glenn suggested the Vatos. But then when they go, Daryl immediately sees that they've been shot and killed by people, and Andrea has a half assed attempt at mocking him, only to backfire

  • @charlessmith9753
    @charlessmith9753 Před 7 měsíci +1488

    I don’t think so. It doesn’t say anything too shocking apart from “we’re all infected” which pretty much everyone finds out anyway just by living. It did open the door for more storylines about testing the virus and finding a cure

    • @billross9132
      @billross9132 Před 7 měsíci +89

      Which they never followed up on until now 😂

    • @h347h
      @h347h Před 7 měsíci +1

      Zombie stories don't need that though.

    • @srsentinel
      @srsentinel Před 7 měsíci +7

      i read thjis in charles voice

    • @willbyrn5920
      @willbyrn5920 Před 7 měsíci +26

      This episode and plot point about the virus wasn’t really ever supposed to exist. I guess the original creator of the comics never wanted to go into the origins of the virus or cdc or any of that which is why is it wasn’t in the comics. The show runners did though. After this episode was released I guess they came to some sort of agreement they would leave it at that and not go into it anymore. Which is why they only just somewhat recently picked up the plot point again in FTWD

    • @tanglelane5506
      @tanglelane5506 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@billross9132yes because there was shit going on no time for ricks group to do that and frankly they wouldn’t and as soon as Rick gets taken they show more because they don’t have to center right around group for every scene wouldn’t fit show if they did that during all out war or terminus or governor or even the farm. But the farm is the only place I could have seen them find a little something the show had it’s own big plot there was no time to really do that. And I’m happy they mad it the end game for walking dead

  • @Zeroshiki
    @Zeroshiki Před 7 měsíci +797

    I think it was a good thing. Since Rick wasn't around for the beginning, neither were we. We got so much information about the infection and how the walkers work. I always appreciated that knowledge, especially when the spin-offs and games have characters that seem to think the walkers are more than the walking corpses they are.

    • @samanthaislas515
      @samanthaislas515 Před 7 měsíci +5

      honestly yeah i agree

    • @IronFreakV
      @IronFreakV Před 4 měsíci +7

      I kind of like those few hints we get that there actually might be more the walkers than simply walking corpses
      Gives it a bit more depth and makes us question just how much the CDC actually knew

  • @forgivengaming9758
    @forgivengaming9758 Před 7 měsíci +327

    Carl takes a sip of wine, but look at the glass Sofia has. That's the real plot twist in this episode.

    • @thethriftytypewriter
      @thethriftytypewriter  Před 7 měsíci +37

      😂😂😂

    • @Kingofportals
      @Kingofportals Před 6 měsíci +40

      Sophia is a drunk! I mean with her father being Ed I wouldn’t be surprised if she was exposed to alcohol a lot as a child. Maybe in Season 2 when she goes missing she finds alcohol and gets drunk which impairs her judgement so she doesn’t go back to the highway and her drunken state caused her to get bit. That would be an interesting and funny theory! Otis could smell the stench of alcohol all over that strange child Walker when putting her into the barn.

    • @dukenukem69
      @dukenukem69 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@Kingofportalsooo

    • @airsoftgunreviewr331
      @airsoftgunreviewr331 Před 6 měsíci +32

      @@Kingofportals you should play d&d with that level of descriptive detail, no joke.

    • @shuyo6073
      @shuyo6073 Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@Kingofportalsthat’s funny, accusing a child of being an alcoholic😂.

  • @ducky-iu2pu
    @ducky-iu2pu Před 7 měsíci +226

    i actually really like how genner mentioned france. it gave me a lot of room for speculation especially regarding the latest spinoff

    • @XgoodbyeX
      @XgoodbyeX Před 7 měsíci +22

      I don't even class daryl Dixon as a spin off tbh the walking dead fell off hard but i actually enjoyed the walking dead:daryl Dixon unlike the later seasons of the main series

    • @fazsum41
      @fazsum41 Před 7 měsíci

      That’s definitely true but what we got from France when we finally got to see what happened there is practically nothing related to what Jenner said which is a shame. What we got from the Darryl spinoff if is some weird ass group full of nutjobs that don’t originate from the french version of the CDC that experiment on walkers and control people, a child that is believed to be immune and so on and oh all of sudden the wildfire virus in the wiki is now originated in France apparently which is just stupjd

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia Před 4 měsíci +12

      It sure took them a long ass time regarding France but hear we are!

    • @ancientragerv2561
      @ancientragerv2561 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@liamphibiait took them 5 seasons to get out of a single state. When I was watching it than I had a feeling I may never get to see it in the main show but in something like FTWD

  • @youngsasuke3104
    @youngsasuke3104 Před 4 měsíci +86

    The amount of foreshadowing in this episode is insane, Jenner basically predicted everything that was going happen especially when told Rick "the day will come when you won't be" after he said he was grateful kinda gives me chills now that i think about it

    • @goldene8064
      @goldene8064 Před 3 měsíci +19

      The Name of Season 7's first episode is based on Jenner's exact quote too btw

    • @trigger9779
      @trigger9779 Před měsícem +1

      @@goldene8064such a perfect detail for them to remember

  • @iamcasihart
    @iamcasihart Před 7 měsíci +18

    The look on Andy Lincoln’s face as Jenner is telling him what we would come to know- absolutely fucking perfect. Andrew Lincoln acts with his eyes and those eyes are so emotive!

  • @iamcasihart
    @iamcasihart Před 7 měsíci +186

    18 Miles Out is one of my favorite episodes to rewatch. The dynamic between Rick and Shane, the brutal fight, creepy Randall, Shane thinking Rick had abandoned him in the bus to the joyous moment that he sees Rick pull up to get him, all the way to the end of the episode, as Shane sees the same lone walker in the field that he saw on the way 18 Miles out. Very symbolic of what was to come.

    • @remphz3321
      @remphz3321 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I don't think he was joyous. He knew Rick wanted to abandon him but couldn't.

    • @onesaucynougat7471
      @onesaucynougat7471 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yeah that’s one of my favorites. I’ve only watched up to the middle of season 7, but 18 miles out is definitely in my top 3 episodes.

    • @iamcasihart
      @iamcasihart Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@remphz3321 I didn’t say that Shane was joyous. I said the moment (for us viewers) was joyous. Most fans, at least at that exact point, didn’t want to see Shane dead. Not yet. Hell, I didn’t want to see Shane dead until Shane literally gave Rick no other choice.

    • @Digitizer777
      @Digitizer777 Před 9 dny

      who tf actually thought Randall was creepy 😂

  • @KingSlayer_.
    @KingSlayer_. Před 7 měsíci +626

    I'd like to point out that in the flashback scene, people say that Shane put his head to Rick chest and was heartbroken that he couldn't feel a heartbeat.
    But I think itd make more sense that he did feel a heartbeat and was so disraught because he knew he'd have to leave his best friend behind knowing he was still alive. I know he tells Lori that he didn't feel one, but its still fun to think about. It's probably setting Rick up to be immune. He died and was reanimated only he came back as himself and not a walker.

    • @fifaboieditz
      @fifaboieditz Před 7 měsíci +64

      This would be a great idea for the finale of twd but didn't come out how we would've wanted hopefully it looks into in we're the ones who live

    • @syzionaurifex5383
      @syzionaurifex5383 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Lol probably not

    • @AlejoConejo-vb8ln
      @AlejoConejo-vb8ln Před 7 měsíci +31

      That's SUPER INTERESTING WTF. I doubt that's what it is, but it's a nice theory

    • @jaski4022
      @jaski4022 Před 7 měsíci +106

      rick being immune gives him more importance than he should have. he's just a survivor, not the last chance of salvation for humanity.

    • @AlejoConejo-vb8ln
      @AlejoConejo-vb8ln Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@jaski4022 True

  • @DanteYewToob
    @DanteYewToob Před 7 měsíci +53

    I like the hints earlier in the episode about the fuel shutdown… the “go easy on the hot water” line stand out because they use electric in line heaters and will use up the last of the power very quickly…

  • @nicholasjbonilla
    @nicholasjbonilla Před 7 měsíci +268

    I think given the constant change of direction in The Walking Dead Universe, they didn't play their hand too early. The writers had a different direction, mainly Frank Darabont. He envisioned the implementation of variants during the early stages of production. Due his leave, they had to pick up the pieces and decided to shift towards more of the "people are more dangerous than the walkers" route. Obviously, people would still be dangerous in Darabont's iteration, but he would've further elaborated on the dangers of walkers in my opinion. That being said, the groundwork was laid out for a potential cure that they could explore in France.
    The real question is if Darabont remained, how do you think the show would've differed?

    • @jelliepops
      @jelliepops Před 7 měsíci +92

      I’d think it would be more cinematic. I loved the first season, the way it was filmed (style of filming), plus it felt more realistic, imo. I really loved this episode cause of love for science and seeing what CDC was like.

    • @billross9132
      @billross9132 Před 7 měsíci +80

      Don't wanna discredit the other show writers but imo if Frank stayed th show would've been as highly praised as bb

    • @braveclem
      @braveclem Před 7 měsíci +40

      Thze show would've been much better with Darabont

    • @Rob_-_
      @Rob_-_ Před 7 měsíci +38

      The show wouldn't have spiraled into the absolute shit show that it became had Darabont stayed on. Granted, it wasn't his choice to leave.

    • @cheesesteakphilly
      @cheesesteakphilly Před 7 měsíci +20

      @@Rob_-_
      I like to imagine another universe where Frank is the lead writer/showrunner but with HBO instead of AMC.

  • @gunzandgodz
    @gunzandgodz Před 7 měsíci +75

    If you pause your video at 8:13, that’s a beautiful shot of the cast at that point. And it’s crazy that only 3 of them are still in the show at this point.

    • @terencefletcher5139
      @terencefletcher5139 Před 2 měsíci +6

      But in the later seasons Carol, Maggie and Daryl have crazy plot armor. It feels like they’re not survivors anymore like in the earlier seasons, now they’re just superhumans who win every fight and every gunfight

  • @annademo
    @annademo Před 7 měsíci +201

    Season 1 is still the only season that I can watch from beginning to end and feel satisfied that the time was well spent. This was a superb way to end the season. To be honest, I haven't watched the Maggie and Negan nor Daryl shows. Maybe I will when Carol joins him? I'm looking forward to closure; the conclusion of the Rick/Michonne story. I hope they are reunited with whomever is left from the first 3 seasons and the kids.

    • @ellieb1812
      @ellieb1812 Před 7 měsíci +21

      The Daryl show is actually pretty good. Dead City, just a reoccurring theme of the later seasons of TWD

    • @marco7563
      @marco7563 Před 7 měsíci +14

      @@ellieb1812 I can vouch for that, Daryl spinoff pretty good, Dead city season 2 is looking promising aswell

    • @Noir0rioN
      @Noir0rioN Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@user-qy8ie2yj9mdude... don't internet anymore, yeah?

    • @invizzy
      @invizzy Před 7 měsíci +1

      Spoiler for the Daryl Dixon Show:
      Well Carol came back in the season finale of the Daryl spinoff😊

    • @remixisthis
      @remixisthis Před 7 měsíci +9

      Daryl show is very refreshing. Has a more cinematic quality and little to no filler. Nothing really groundbreaking, but well done

  • @Sam_T2000
    @Sam_T2000 Před 6 měsíci +33

    I think the point of this episode was basically “there’s no going back…” so now the survivors have to find a way to make a life in the new world, instead of clinging to hope of the old world.

  • @dragongeraldb
    @dragongeraldb Před 7 měsíci +27

    The fact is Jenner could have been so depressed that he lied about France or other things just to get them to die with him.

  • @slayyster
    @slayyster Před 7 měsíci +86

    When they got out of terminus and carol brought them back to meet tyrese and Judith. That was also a super happy moment

    • @zwoptf
      @zwoptf Před 7 měsíci +2

      came to comment this, that was some great television

    • @skipthegames4237
      @skipthegames4237 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Carl eating spaghetti

  • @AlejoConejo-vb8ln
    @AlejoConejo-vb8ln Před 7 měsíci +54

    Considering that TS-19 was Robert Kirkman's black sheep episode back in the day, and thus quickly forgotten by many, I'm kinda glad it's been playing a part in the spin-offs, makes it relevant again.

    • @DabigJK
      @DabigJK Před 3 měsíci +2

      Black sheep?

    • @pikachu896
      @pikachu896 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@DabigJKPsycho Mantis?

    • @jiggycalzone8585
      @jiggycalzone8585 Před měsícem

      I like this because they had every excuse possible to just pretend it never happened. Im certain most shows would have too

  • @mcgaming609
    @mcgaming609 Před 7 měsíci +110

    I love this episode because I took the whole thing as them in Limbo or purgatory (having so much happiness but also so much sadness). When the doors open to the facility it’s super bright like what is described when you die with the bright light and all. They are told when they get in they stay in and that’s that. Rick and everyone start to have their own things going on like Shane trying to speak with Lori, Andrea and Dale, Rick and Jenner all confronting different types of demons. When they find out everything about the facility it comes down to Jenner saying that them dying would be quick and painless and how it is most likely the best option in the apocalypse. While most of the others wanted to leave and live even though they were told that isn’t much of a life anymore. But Rick argues that something is better than nothing and all they want is a choice. Jenner finally lets the ones who want to go out go. All them wanting to live or die for different reasons. Andrea feels she has nothing and lost it all meaning she has no purpose. Dale doesn’t want to die, but he doesn’t wanna leave Andrea alone cause he wants to help her so he’s willing to die with her but did get her to leave. Jenner stayed because he felt living in that world was a worse fate than dying an instantaneous death. Jacqui felt it was sane to stay and die because she wasn’t built for that type of world and considering the state of things it was the most humane way to die because of how quick and painless it is. Carol wants to live so she can protect her daughter and Lori I’m sure wants the same thing for Carl Including Rick. Shane Probably wanted to live so he could have Lori and Carl. The ones who left found reasons to live and the ones who stayed found reasons to die. Rick thanks Jenner but Jenner wasn’t going to let Rick leave ignorant about it and replied with the name of the episode glenn and Abe die. “The day will come when you won’t be”. He then informs Rick more about the Virus and how it works to what he knew. The reaction Rick gave was that of someone who discovered no hope to a situation where they to their core believed there was hope. Rick was so stunned Lori even had to help pull him away because he was so stunned. Rick and the others leaving not realizing that in the grand scheme of it all Jenner went through far less Pain,Regret,Sorrow than anyone else would. There was no right answer it was a simple matter of pick your poison. It was also a matter of “put yourself into this situation, what is the choice you would pick”. At that point in time it’s easy to say live, but then you get all the way up to season 8 or even just Negan and you have to ask yourself again would you have been better off dying back at the CDC. I feel like you’re supposed to ask you self that after each event major event. They did play cards too early IMO because some connections didn’t show back up until like a few years ago maybe not even and they were short and small plus you would have to remember this episode to understand or even remember what happens with connecting stuff later on. But I feel that to get the feeling the episode gave me it had to go that way. I really do hope Jenner has a full and proper connection with the Daryl show eventually cause that is without a doubt their best opportunity for it.

    • @Johnnycash23_
      @Johnnycash23_ Před 7 měsíci +10

      This is gold. Thanks buddy

    • @Man09256
      @Man09256 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Bro gave us and entire essay💀

    • @samanthaislas515
      @samanthaislas515 Před 7 měsíci +1

      you put my thoughts into words lol and im sure we’ve all put ourselves in the situation of that scene and I’ve always said that i would have more then likely stayed, not that im not built for that world but just think about how you would end up dying eventually and more then likely in a horrific way, the world is over and even though rick said death has always been there regardless, atleast you had the option to go out without sufferibg

    • @bryanortiz4253
      @bryanortiz4253 Před 7 měsíci +5

      i ain’t reading allat😭🙏‼️

    • @chaz200711
      @chaz200711 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Facts. When Jenner mentioned France, I knew it would have some importance to it later on and they’re using it in the form of a spin-off. You can look at it from both sides tho. Yes they played their cards too early, and no they didn’t. Yes because now TWD has to come up with great ideas to keep the show interesting, and like u said, you would have to remember this episode later on as reference for the show to make sense. And no because now as the viewer, you develop a deeper liking for each character as they embark on a journey to survive knowing that there’s nothing out there. You feel as though you don’t want anything bad to happen to each character in the following episodes, but when it inevitably does, it hits you in such an emotionally dissatisfying way lol.

  • @alexvandyke1236
    @alexvandyke1236 Před 7 měsíci +47

    One of my favorite episodes. It’s the perfect ending to season 1, laying out the central themes that would power the show to the very end. Kirkman is crazy for wanting to cut it.
    The trip to the CDC replaced the group spending the night at a gated community, where I guess Jacqui would have just been killed by walkers. How on earth would that have been a better finale?

  • @DourFlower
    @DourFlower Před 7 měsíci +37

    I like the mystery it added because even watching this episode back in 2010 i wanted to know more about France and the world at large and it made the world feel so much bigger even in a relatively tiny setting for the time, which i still feel to this day. Its why the mexico segmentw of fear were so intriguing (beyond actual good writing) and why the norman reedus show feels so refreshing today

  • @KingRemoji
    @KingRemoji Před 7 měsíci +19

    The CDC didn’t know where the walker virus came from, just how it works…that’s it, the science behind it. Which is information we needed as the viewer, and for the group.

  • @bellemane5839
    @bellemane5839 Před 7 měsíci +18

    TS-19 is one of the best episode of the show! Gives me chills and makes me cry every time. 💛

  • @vanjalazarevic6326
    @vanjalazarevic6326 Před 7 měsíci +29

    My biggest question is how beautiful and unique TWD could have been had Frank Darabont stayed.

  • @Bjswac
    @Bjswac Před 6 měsíci +15

    Best episode of the entire show. Really cemented the massive success of the first season.

  • @chaoticmoviegirlie
    @chaoticmoviegirlie Před 7 měsíci +12

    this episode shows so well the contrast between almost this utopia of happiness where everything is available (also what used to be their normal life before everything went down) and ''real life'' that comes with realization that none of them will probably have this type of life ever again

  • @koulor315
    @koulor315 Před 7 měsíci +28

    Actually ts 19 is a great episode, one of my favorites

  • @gregoryeiding5395
    @gregoryeiding5395 Před 7 měsíci +32

    One of my favorite episodes bc it took any hope away that there was still government somewhere or a cure would be coming. It felt like the characters went from swimming in shallow waters to the middle of the ocean. The old society is dead and not coming back. The symbolism of the failure of the cdc was strong for the story overall

  • @unhappybacon3292
    @unhappybacon3292 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I don't recall the characters really mentioning Jenner or his findings, ever again in the later season. I remember being very pissed off at Andrea for not telling the Governor that his daughter was already dead and the corpse he was trying to restore, is not her. Andrea knew about what Jenner said, and she saw footage of the zombification process too. And as Jenner puts it, The person bitten is, "Just a shell driven by mindless instinct" That was something the Governor should've been told. Would it have made a difference? Maybe, maybe not. But we never know

  • @JustJessee
    @JustJessee Před 7 měsíci +54

    Nope, that was pushing plot lines along at a reasonable clip. If only all other plots were addressed in a more reasonable and expedient manner.

    • @dontpokethekenny
      @dontpokethekenny Před 7 měsíci +4

      Yeah, i agree, after season 3 i cant really remember anything that happens until negan shows up, then again i dont remember what happens.

    • @filipgaecki5480
      @filipgaecki5480 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@dontpokethekennydon't blame your incompetence on the show when it's your fault to begin with

  • @MistahJay7
    @MistahJay7 Před 7 měsíci +13

    I really love the 6 episode format for the Walking Dead. It feels just perfect and I like how the Spin offs are doing the same
    It really helps keep the pacing going without meaningless filler

  • @Lawgamer411
    @Lawgamer411 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This is honestly one of the best and most grounded episodes in the show.
    The enemy is hopelessness, knowing that the best and brightest, those who could’ve fixed this, have long perished.

  • @antirevomag834
    @antirevomag834 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Hot take: The best zombie apocalypse stories don't ever have an origin for the virus, they simply throw a bunch of speculative ideas around, from nature, to government conspiracy, to aliens or some sort of paranormal stuff.
    The lack of a conclusive answer helps with the immersion of the initial idea for what the modern zombie is based on: the idea of it being an emergency disaster. Everyone has presumptions, nobody has answers, and finding answers is something to wait until the crisis is over with. It mimics how catastrophies across the globe always go, and it works for both the viewer and the people in the movie, as the viewer,much like a spectator viewing the disaster from a different state will speculate and blame, the person in the movie will have to endure regardless, and while the question might cross their mind, trying to survive is still the primary goal.
    When an answer is given, this kind of goes out the window from the viewer's perspective and you're left with ONLY people trying to survive, and there's less overall to work with, because no longer do you have more ways to add natural conversation for the survivors to talk about that allude to the origins (thus fueling speculation) but the viewer will feel as though they know the answer to a question everyone is asking, and feel frustrated whenever the topic is broached in the show. It forces the show to just accept the details as a normal part of life, which at first sounds good, but when they accept it as the new normal, the disaster aspect vanishes. It NEEDS to feel like a freak occurrence. Something that, in theory, can be fixed down the line. Otherwise the story just plods along.

    • @fireengie8488
      @fireengie8488 Před 6 měsíci

      interesting take, i think it's very closely related to the idea that usually the scariest monsters are the ones you know the least about / see the least in a movie

    • @chaz200711
      @chaz200711 Před 2 měsíci

      This is the best comment. This is exactly how I feel and I agree with everything you said. I think having an origin story was better for developing a liking towards each character. It made it to where you felt as if there were truly no hope and u just didn’t wanna see anyone die. But it definitely made it harder for the show to come up with new and fresh ideas to keep the show interesting.

    • @overland1178
      @overland1178 Před měsícem

      Basic take.

    • @overland1178
      @overland1178 Před měsícem

      Basic take.

  • @TimSedai
    @TimSedai Před 7 měsíci +14

    More that they didn't really have a firm direction for the show at that point than "too early" necessarily

  • @GrannyT23
    @GrannyT23 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The way the episode frames the CDC as this perfect place only for it to steadily break down kind of mimics the effect the virus has on TS-19’s brain. It starts off beautiful and vibrant, every part of it fully functional and working only for those necessary functions to steadily fail and become a shell of its former self. The lights literally went out, just like TS-19

  • @cantprocess
    @cantprocess Před 6 měsíci +7

    One thing they definitely dropped from the first season is the walkers still having some sort of intelligence. For example the kids mom who tried to open the door.

    • @xvoidxhunter2129
      @xvoidxhunter2129 Před 2 měsíci

      That was cause Frank Darabont no longer worked on the seasons past halfway through Season 2. Frank Darabont had alot of ideas and aspirations to make the Walkers more than just fleshy generic beat sticks that the gang roll through in droves, they were supposed to have flashbacks and buildup to them which is why the Purple Suit Walker had an odd amount of screen time. The Tank Walker (played by Sam Witwer) Rick kills was supposed to have a full flashback to the war in Atlanta to show how he ended up in there for example.
      But pretty much all of his ideas for Season 2 got cut as well as Franks budget which is not only why he left but also a very likely cause of why Dale died when he did since the actor that played Dale was friends with Frank and they went on to work on a different movie together

  • @TheNickSweat
    @TheNickSweat Před 7 měsíci +9

    Great episode. One of the best from the mothership. I'd still love to see you cover something from the first three seasons of Fear. I guarantee you'll appreciate the writing from those seasons.

  • @tinycanlid5
    @tinycanlid5 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I love in the CDC when they're all drinking and Daryl says "you keep drinking, I wanna see how red your face can get!", he was getting so comfortable with the group, such good moments

  • @tristanversteeg5738
    @tristanversteeg5738 Před 7 měsíci +11

    to be fair it felt pretty natural hearing this, and it is only revealed to rick in 1x06, we learn about it in 2x13. but knowing if you die not from a walker but still turn grounded the series in a good way. if we didnt get that they would be a lot more limited with what they could do.

  • @0fficalHellfire
    @0fficalHellfire Před 7 měsíci +5

    Awesome video. Season 1 and 2 will always hold a special place in my heart

  • @user-jy9ef7uj7z
    @user-jy9ef7uj7z Před 5 měsíci +4

    Man, this episode is so sad if you see 7x01
    The " the day will come when you won't be " phrase is so sad if you compare the happinees of everybody in the 1x06 and the sadness of everybody in 7x01

  • @JustKandyMan1
    @JustKandyMan1 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Really loved this episode and when RIck was told one day he wouldn't it sent shivers down my spine. Admittedly it began unravelling some thread for the future that muddy the waters but overall was a great way to end season 1 and setting up future plot points.

  • @linkmastah086
    @linkmastah086 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dude your walking dead videos are so good, I just finished watching the the last 5 seasons after dropping the show, and I've watched so many of your vids

  • @babs_3648
    @babs_3648 Před 7 měsíci +2

    TS-19 is probably my second favorite episode of season 1 after “Tell It To The Frogs”. I think this was a great analysis, I really do love these TWD videos and always look forward to them. 18 Miles Out is also my favorite S2 episode so definitely looking forward to that as well. Idk if you’ve finished reviewing S6 but I think an analysis of “The Same Boat” would be cool to see in one of the next uploads

  • @davids1051
    @davids1051 Před 7 měsíci +10

    If you haven’t done a breakdown of it already, I’d really like to see you do one on the episode “Them”. I feel like it was really cool seeing the group survive in the wild with no real shelter and it was really visceral and realistic.

    • @alexstevens45
      @alexstevens45 Před 7 měsíci

      what season in TWD is this episode in?

  • @Kingofportals
    @Kingofportals Před 7 měsíci +11

    I would like you to cover The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 1 What Lies Ahead next, it was an extremely impactful first episode of a Season, a herd of Walkers on the highway nearly wiped out the group, Sophia went missing and died off screen with a large and fruitless search for her beginning, Carl was shot in that episode at the end, and Rick began his journey as the group’s leader heading gradually into the darker direction he would end up later on. It was towards the end of his Officer Friendly days.

    • @chaz200711
      @chaz200711 Před 2 měsíci +1

      That’s true. After the CDC episode, you get the “where do we go from here” feeling.

  • @connorwiederich
    @connorwiederich Před 7 měsíci +6

    Pretty cool how the Negan kill episode is named after Jenner's statement to Rick in this episode that he would regret being spared.

  • @The_Governor81
    @The_Governor81 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Really love theses kinds of video’s and how you really get into detail and depth. I would love to see you review TWD 4x6 (Live Bait) and here your opinion on the Rise & Fall of The Governor. And him potentially having a redemption arc but his greed & obsession with revenge & power really prove that he was to far gone. I’d also love to see you do a character analysis on Arthur Morgan from RDR2 like you did with Joel from The Last Of Us > just a suggestion

  • @cheesesteakphilly
    @cheesesteakphilly Před 7 měsíci +6

    Scott Gimple would’ve made 1.5 seasons in the CDC.

  • @prebletucky4269
    @prebletucky4269 Před 4 měsíci +3

    love that resident evil code veronica save room music

  • @justinpatton6996
    @justinpatton6996 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love you're videos man. Still think you should do a How S8 finale could have been the Series finale. It basically is for how different S9-11 are.

  • @kellydavid8169
    @kellydavid8169 Před 7 měsíci +2

    You know it’s a good day when good old Thrifty drops another fantastic episode analysis! You rock! Thank you so very much!

  • @hunteringram6637
    @hunteringram6637 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hey thrifty! I say you should do an analysis of the episode "Arrow on the doorpost" I think it really shines in the writing aspect! Would love to see you cover it!

  • @RedAnimal100
    @RedAnimal100 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love these episode videos so I will comment a new episode every time I watch one. You should cover “Arrow on the Doorpost” episode in season 3. It’s the one where Rick and the governor have a sit down and would love to hear your thoughts on it.

  • @teenagemutantammnite8944
    @teenagemutantammnite8944 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Again, loved this analysis.
    If your stuck on episodes 5x09 is a good one (What Happened and What’s going on). Or maybe some more season 10 or 11 episodes, like 11x13: warlords and 11x14: the rotten core.

  • @alanrichardson1816
    @alanrichardson1816 Před měsícem +1

    "The day will come when you wont be" is an excellent line by the doc. Many of the original crew do indeed die painful deaths, so maybe the CDC wasn't too bad.

  • @ThePercussionRealm
    @ThePercussionRealm Před 7 měsíci

    Very good analysis! I'm one of the ones that really love this concept in the show. It definitely seems like they overplayed their cards but I think it is more along the lines of not thinking that the show would go as far as it did.
    I do hope you do continue these episode analysis videos. I know you said you only plan to do 18 Miles Out which is another great one. I really hope you can do these:
    What Lies Ahead
    Save the Last One
    Seed
    This Sorrowful Life
    30 Days with out an Accident
    Internment
    the two Governor standalone eps as one video
    and What Happened and What's Going On.

  • @matthewhoppe5951
    @matthewhoppe5951 Před 7 měsíci +17

    I always thought it was such a shame that they killed off Jenner so quickly. He's an awesome actor. The first season was amazing. Up to about season 4 or 5. I miss it so much

  • @similaritiesendhere
    @similaritiesendhere Před 6 měsíci +20

    Everyone misses the biggest mistake in this episode. Everyone being infected means that humanity can not outlast the virus. You could restart civilization on an island with no walkers and one person dying in their sleep could start an outbreak.

    • @Eadric_The_Wild
      @Eadric_The_Wild Před 5 měsíci +8

      We would adapt. We would develop new cultural rituals and traditions to counter it.
      Like, one of the most likely reasons why our ancestors began burying their dead hundreds of thousands of years ago was probably to prevent the dead body from spreading disease and attracting predators. And now, hundreds of thousands of years later, burying the dead is pretty much instinctual.
      Similar things would arrise. Whether that's developing a ritual around isolating a person once they reach a certain age then just waiting for them to die naturally before destroying their brain or maybe even just straight up systematically executing the old and sick once they begin to show signs that they're going to die.
      Maybe, after enough generations, a combination of the zombie virus becoming less lethal and humans becoming more resistant will make it so that it's much less of a threat. There's no point trying to add logic to TWD's zombie virus though because it's literally some black magic voodoo shit. I like the idea that heaven and hell are full, and so the dead have nowhere to go.

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere Před 5 měsíci

      @@Eadric_The_Wild No, the covid outbreak proved that we can't even handle the body counts from a disease with a .06% mortality rate. Also, diseases evolve faster in asymptomatic hosts... which would be the entire surviving WD population.
      Don't write me any more high school essays that ignore the fact that almost every piece of undead fiction, from vampires to zombies, actively avoid stepping into the logical cow patty that is an unstoppable infection spreading exponentially.

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere Před 5 měsíci

      @@Eadric_The_Wild I'll add that other diseases didn't magically go away in the WD timeline. In their living conditions, a potent flu outbreak could wipe out an entire settlement IF THE DEAD RESSURECTED AND STARTED ATTACKING PEOPLE.

    • @chaz200711
      @chaz200711 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Eadric_The_WildI don’t think humans would become resistant. Viruses mutate and get stronger. That’s why a new flu shot is administered every year. I think there’s still an upside tho. You’re on the right track. Humans would eventually figure something out.

    • @Feras_Plays
      @Feras_Plays Před měsícem

      Here's the thing while this is a stretch we have no idea if the younger ones (anybody that was born after the outbreak like judeth) will reanimate
      They might have some sort of resistance and if they died they would not reanimate

  • @Slayerer97
    @Slayerer97 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I would like to see a "What If" series based on the Telltale Walking Dead games. I know that in a previous episode you mentioned that you're still playing through season 1.
    I know that these videos are quite popular with the Walking Dead TV show as well as other series like Breaking bad & Game of Thrones, and to my knowledge the game hasn't been done. For example, you could do one like " What if Lee convinced Glen to stay with the Motor Inn group in Ep1. Just a thought, love your videos

  • @dustybun1378
    @dustybun1378 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Just rewatched the first season. Still one of my favorite pilots.

  • @mirokpirok
    @mirokpirok Před 7 měsíci +12

    The day will come when you wont be

  • @bishbosh4815
    @bishbosh4815 Před 6 měsíci +2

    One of the most underrated episodes

  • @stephen4790
    @stephen4790 Před 7 měsíci

    YESS I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG

  • @AdlerE9
    @AdlerE9 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Love the Resident Evil Save Room Theme music later in the video, always a beautiful sound

    • @chaz200711
      @chaz200711 Před 2 měsíci

      Ohhhh that’s creepy 🤣🤣

  • @samiraslan9735
    @samiraslan9735 Před 6 měsíci

    That episode is my favorite, everything about it was perfect! even the music.

  • @divadwerdna4624
    @divadwerdna4624 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Holy shit I’m in the middle of rewatching right now and I’m in this episode beautiful timing

  • @m.grichter6467
    @m.grichter6467 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Honestly it engraved very early on the hopelessness of the situation, which the main TWD series relied on for A LOT of the first half of the show so yeah I’d say it was worth it

  • @chungang7037
    @chungang7037 Před 7 měsíci

    Can't wait for your analysis of the new series coming out.

  • @halflifedreamcast
    @halflifedreamcast Před 7 měsíci

    Some episodes that might be interesting to cover are 2x08 and 2x09, 7x07 & 7x08, 8x14 or 8x16, maybe 4x11 or 11x6 even. These are all maybe mostly worth talking about I think. Love these videos btw, hope you cover more episodes

    • @halflifedreamcast
      @halflifedreamcast Před 7 měsíci

      Or 1x04, 4x06 & 4x07 if you really run out of ideas 😅

  • @snowingonolympus8588
    @snowingonolympus8588 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I actually appreciate that they "played their cards" this early, so to speak: a lot of shows try to keep mystery alive so much that they run themselves in senseless circles that don't make sense. By defining the virus early, the entire universe has this moment to turn back to and therefore can't make themselves go completely out of hand without retconning it altogether. I think of shows like Pretty Little Liars or Supernatural where certain mysteries put the writers in an endless annoying loop that got tiresome.

  • @renecarteir8092
    @renecarteir8092 Před měsícem

    Love the Resident Evil: Code Veronica safe room music playing in the background 😁

  • @MistahJay7
    @MistahJay7 Před 7 měsíci +2

    You should totally do videos on the Telltale games if you've played them all. Would love to hear your thoughts on the characters and what not

  • @grantgoins1006
    @grantgoins1006 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I don’t think so. Because frank darabont was the series show runner and he had his own vision and plan.

    • @Johnnycash23_
      @Johnnycash23_ Před 7 měsíci +1

      Wish he was still around on twd. Would be epic!! When did he leave after season 2 right?

  • @imtakk9943
    @imtakk9943 Před 7 měsíci

    Went back to play BO4 today and realized that your intro sound is from dead of the night, good stuff.

  • @cliffjumper416
    @cliffjumper416 Před 7 měsíci +2

    TS-19 is my favorite episode of Season 1, along with Days Gone Bye

  • @user-oi6oc3ox1x
    @user-oi6oc3ox1x Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thrifty, you don’t miss on videos. Always 10/10

  • @mulletmutt
    @mulletmutt Před 7 měsíci +1

    as short as it was, the scene of the group in the heavy rain after being on the road for so long is definitely one of the happiest scenes to me

  • @UndisputedEntity
    @UndisputedEntity Před 7 měsíci +3

    Can you make a video analysis on the episode “Nebraska” I feel like that’s what kind of helped shape Rick into the leader he became and kind of what made Rick become the leader in the end

  • @residentevilfreak33
    @residentevilfreak33 Před 7 měsíci

    10:06 resident evil save room music… I am now your number one subscriber 💯💯💯

  • @iramotley
    @iramotley Před 7 měsíci

    18 Miles Out is my favorite episode. Hope you cover that one.

  • @TrollsAlmighty
    @TrollsAlmighty Před 7 měsíci +2

    You could argue that the scene with Rick, Carl, Beth and Hershel farming is the happiest scene in TWD.

  • @peteraguilera1859
    @peteraguilera1859 Před 7 měsíci

    You described my feelings about The Walking Dead Perfectly when you said "The show was at it's strongest when the pacing was good." I hated when the Negan arc took forever and at that point I stopped watching the later seasons. If you want more ideas on videos I suggest The Last of Us Analysis maybe on what exactly went right and whay went wrong in the Second game or even the show. Another video can be 28 days later, Zombieland or anything Apocalypse related. I'd watch those videos, you just gotta find a unique perspective on it that not many others have highlighted on👍

  • @Pzz5117
    @Pzz5117 Před 7 měsíci

    episodes I would love to see you cover is the mid season finale of season 3, the 2 Governor episodes in season 4 before Too far gone, or maybe a video of your top 10 least favorite or favorite episodes

  • @ProfessorAragorn
    @ProfessorAragorn Před 7 měsíci

    I liked how this was the big divergence from the comics. It makes sense on a cinematic level that we have to get something explained - and I don't think the cards were played too early. I just think that what was known at the start of the outbreak versus what is known years later can definitely change.
    If you haven't done the season 4 premiere I'd like to hear your thoughts on that - especially given the popularity of the walking dead by then, compared to other season premieres both past and present, etc.

  • @msushi98
    @msushi98 Před 7 měsíci

    Omg the Code Veronica music!!!
    And regarding this episode, I actually like it since it grounds the show. I mean they’re retconning quite a bit, but this whole season reminds us what TWD was at its heart

  • @horusksa1983
    @horusksa1983 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I dont know about how everyone feels, but the stories involving the fall really captivates me.

  • @nikkicole54321
    @nikkicole54321 Před 7 měsíci

    This is the first episode that i saw and man did it have a lasting impression.

  • @Redstar24_
    @Redstar24_ Před 7 měsíci

    For an episode idea (keeping with S2) I think ‘What Lies Ahead’ would be a great choice. It’s underrated and great storytelling. Definitely one of my favorite season opener. It was also the last episode directed by Frank Darabont so it’ll be interesting conversation.

  • @KnightOfNewColu
    @KnightOfNewColu Před 6 měsíci +1

    It’s perfect for me because I only really like the first season, so it makes for a great ending in that sense. Just the right amount of loose ends but closed loops as well.

  • @syzionaurifex5383
    @syzionaurifex5383 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The soldier not double tapping the unconscious man in the hospital bed is the reason the world was so easily overrun.
    NO HALF MEASURES

  • @ReturnoftheDILF
    @ReturnoftheDILF Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think Nebraska would be a fantastic episode to cover. Sneaky underrated episode. One of my favorites in the whole series.

  • @Adkb123
    @Adkb123 Před 5 měsíci

    Loved this episode

  • @elihutchinson007
    @elihutchinson007 Před 12 hodinami

    As someone from Georgia, I always found it amusing how they tried to pass off the Cobb Energy Center (a performance venue) as the CDC. Sure the exterior looks vaguely similar to the CDC building, but to my eyes the lobby is clearly intended for lines of theatergoers and red carpet events while some of the hallways are obviously dressing rooms. I assume most of the actual “high tech facility” stuff was shot on a set.

  • @PuertoRicanLover15
    @PuertoRicanLover15 Před 7 měsíci

    I had to sub after hearing the Code Veronica Save Theme in the back. ❤

  • @realestateservicesfromlarr9128

    I loved the episode. It's one of my favorites and I think it strengthened the larger story

  • @Dredhedassassin
    @Dredhedassassin Před 5 měsíci

    You should do a video on the Nebraska episode I feel like that was a huge turning point in Rick and Hershel’s relationship

  • @flydawg7784
    @flydawg7784 Před 7 měsíci

    This episode was really good, one of my favorites. Some may think it revealed a little too much or boxed in the virus story but I think it’s pretty easy to get past that. TWD has taken A Lot of liberties with certain storylines to make them work and this one was so good that I’m not going to be able to get past it. I mean cmon, we had walkers turning doorknobs and using rocks as tools and most people just told themselves “there are different types of walkers I guess”. Overall, I think this episode was fine for moving the story along.
    I guess everybody has different episodes that affects them or that they like, one of my favorite random episodes is Nebraska. There’s a good slightly different feel to it and it also showcased how much of a capable badass Rick Grimes can be.

  • @Beinacts
    @Beinacts Před 3 měsíci

    Best episode of the show, it only makes sense that they addressed the cause of the virus early. But damn your video went on for so long

  • @enigma9315
    @enigma9315 Před 2 měsíci

    This episode will always remind me of the bo1 zombie trailers when they were testing the zombies