Why Paige Bueckers shouldn’t have won Player of the Year
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- As great as Paige Bueckers was her freshman year, she shouldn't have won Naismith national player of the year. That honor should've went to Aari McDonald. Her run at Arizona was historic and what Caitlin Clark did for Iowa in 2023 is the only true comparison.
0:00 Who should’ve won NPOY?
1:25 Aari was more valuable
4:22 How narrative controls MVP
7:20 NCAAW should’ve dug deeper - Hry
Very well put together case and persuasive argument.
Great arguments. You addressed all of UConn fans likely comebacks like mentioning their strong non-conference schedule. It's true defenses can't just account for Paige when they play UConn, they have to worry about Edwards. But they can just zone in on Aari. Clark is similar to a certain extent.
Caitlin Clark made Monica Czinano (their head coach even stated she didn’t ever think Czinano would be a starter) Until Clark; that’s how massively impactful she is. Clark DID solely carry Iowa on her back
Criznano is better than ododa🤫
A lot of valid points. I remember seeing Aari tearing it up in tourn for Arz. To this day I cant name any of her teammates from "21 team.
I'm a Uconn fan but I get your points. That said Paige was super consistent throughout the season and even being a facilitator first she still came up clutch when the Huskies needed buckets. Nobody has mentioned it but she is way more high-profile and...white.
I thought that then though, but every year its 4 or 5 girls that deserve it.
I don't usually agree with you lol but I'm not gonna lie, you made a lot of valid points on this... the NCAAW does make a lot of suspicious decisions, the recent one for me was Angel Reese winning the MOP award over her teammate Alexis Morris... while both Angel and Alexis carried LSU the entire season, I think Alexis Morris was the best player on that team during the tournament, she was the most consistent and clutch than anybody on LSU but the NCAAW had tunnel vision on Angel Reese instead.
I agree on that one, and Angel said it herself, Alexis should have been the MOP. I think they gave it to Angel because she wasn't in consideration for the player of the year, which was some absolute nonsense given the winner doesn't bother to play both ends of the floor, and with all of Catlin's spectacular shooting, she only averaged four more points a game than Reese which amounts to two buckets when she had her hands on the ball 99% of the time, and Reese had to go get the ball off the boards basically to score. It's just the way society is and it's NEVER going to be a level playing field so why even bother, they not going to change their mind any more than these players can change their color.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, I've been saying this for YEARS. It's like comparing apples to oranges. TRUE lovers of the game, took note of Aari's stats vs UConn when Arizona easily beat them by 10 in the 2021 Final Four. Just because it's UConn players, they get special media attention and rankings. ESPN does not care that UConn is in the Big Easy where UConn just runs up player and team stats. PB got "cooked" by Destanni Henderson in 2022 as well, and Henny was even just a bit taller than. Aari. Aari is playing just absolutely great for the WNBA's Dream in Atlanta. I'm so very proud of her and Henny. The small point guards that took down the Media Giant.
Well said. Paige is amazing but the media definitely ignores some things.
@@maxpower247 it makes it strange to make it a big thing. There is many things to talk about instead. Like how uconn with all their talent haven't won a title in the PBucks era so far...Even without paige, there's not a lack of generational talent. And have Haley Jones been disappointing in the wnba or is that just to expect from a player in her first season as a pro?
Espn needs piage then but now espn needs caitlin the most
i agree wholeheartedly
Why bring this up three years later?
Aari played an amazing game in the final game and throughout the NCAA. However, Paige had an amazing season.
Now, you could argue for Aari but 3 years later? Come on.
I like you and want your channel to grow, so I am going to watch and hit the 'like' button. However, I disagree with your take. But this is not any worse than when you bash my LSU Tigers.
AGREED!!
Dude, I loved your stuff but you're all over the place. I think you're reaching too far here just to b controversial. If the NPOY was based o numbers alone, it's still a 2-horse race with Paige and Caitlyn. Aari was awesome that year but she wasn't putting up Caitlyn Clark numbers, which means she was leading her team, not carrying it. That said, it's easy to lead a team with average players (See how she's doing in the W). At UConn a freshman led a team full of future pros and it wasn't even close. And anyone who watched UConn knows Bueckers held back so much that season that Geno was constantly on her back. She didn't want to show up her seniors, but obviously she's too good to just fit in. It's pretty ridiculous to come 3 years later and say Paige stole something everyone in the world knows she earned just to get views. smh
If you really believe what you're saying, it would make sense to find out what different bodies use for criteria for their annual awards. Also, it's easy for you to sit at home and say the game is rigged with no proof. Your biggest mistake is implying that the NCAA had anything to do with any of these awards. There is no NCAA player of the year award. There are several awards but the NCAA only does the Most Outstanding Player awards in the tournament. Reach out to AP or the one of the other organizations to get some insight instead of just looking at a stat sheet. The worst thing about it is your flawed logic. If what you say is true and Paige was only that good because of who she's surrounded by, then Aari should be better in the W than she was in college, right? That argument doesn't wash. Aari was a great college player but Paige Bueckers had the better season.
Not sure where I stand on this. I feel like Paige deserved the awards because she was consistently good all season. Not only that but she really stood out for being so dominant while be so young. I agree with the harder competition that Aari had and I think that might be the reason. Arizona wasn’t the best in their conference so it was harder for them to get good wins. Overall I still think Paige deserved it but this really helped me see how underrated Aari was
Aari was a lot of fun to watch, that's for sure. Hopefully she will receive accolades in the WNBA. There is something to be said, though, for what Paige contributed as a freshman. She plays with so much poise.
I enjoyed this video and absolutely agree that Aari should have been in the running and rated over others considered. I do not rate her over Paige however. First, as for their teammates: Aari did not have the caliber of teammates that Paige did, agreed. But didn't that make it easier for her to shine? Paige was, you say, surrounded by WNBA caliber talent. That may be true and, if so, isn't it all the more impressive that she outshone all of these great players. When this issue was first raised a couple of years ago, another CZcams reactor compared her to others who he thought should have been considered more highly. Those players were Aaliyah Boston, Caitlyn Clark Zia Cooke, Cameron Brink, and Rhyne Howard. He felt, like you do, that some of Paige's success was due to the media, with him it was her social media presence.
So I did a statistical analysis for the 2020-21 season and here's what I cane up with. Paige played the most minutes at 36.2. She was 3rd in PPG with 20, behind Caitlyn with 26.6 and Rhyne with 20.7. She was 5th in RPG with 4.9 (not bad for a 5'11" guard), 5th in BPG (see previous), 2nd in SPG and tied for 3rd for most TO's (2.5). Here's where she shone: 2nd in FG% at 52.4% behind only Cameron, 1st in 3pt. % at 46%, 1st in FT% with 86.9%! Oh, and she had the least fouls PG with 1.2.
To summarize: She was one of only three freshman on the list; Aaliyah and Zia were sophomores and Rhyne a junior. Although Caitlyn had the most PPG, Paige had a better FG%, 3pt%, and FT%. She had a better 3pt.% than the most amazing 3pt. shooter in women's NCCA basketball. Of the three guards she was behind only Caitlyn RPG. She was 2nd only behind Caitlyn in APG with some of the prettiest passes you'll ever see. She and Cameron were the only players on the list with a FG% over 50%. Her FT% was 9 &1/2 % higher than the next closest who shot 77.2% . Two of the categories RPG and BPG were, as you would expect, by the three bigs.
This is a girl who came off the bench as an 8th grader for the varsity and made seven 3pt. shots. Who does that?! Yes, I'm a Paige fan. I've seen a lot of ball in my 67 years including seeing 3 all-time greats live - Dr. J. (my all-time favorite), Doug Collins, and George McGinnis. This girl is truly special. Thanks again and sorry for being long-winded. And even though I disagreed about who should've won the accolade, I still subscribed because I thought you were very fair in your reasoning. Keep up the good work, my friend.
Oh, and she can dunk!
This was a great video. I was wondering do you think you can do a video of the 2019-20 season of NCAAW. Who do you think would have won it all ? And the teams to the final four.
That’s a really good idea!
South Carolina was the BEST team in the 2019-20 season, hands down. They beat the heck out of UConn in Columbia in February, 2020. UConn was ranked #5 then and SC was #1. I think the Final Four would have been South Carolina, Oregon, Baylor and Maryland. South Carolina went 32-1, the only loss was Pitt. This was the freshman years for AB, ZC, BB, LA.
Awards that people vote on are subjective, because there is no specific criteria. Doesn't hold any value
It’s also not Paige’s fault that Aari had horrible teammates tho
Oh Lord. What a bunch of bull jive. Paige deserved that award.
Yeah that's what the institution said....but when they put it on the floor they come up short. We know what time it is he who has the power makes the rules. They set up who they want to market...it is what it is ..
Max I co-sign with you
Dude, Paige deserved the award hands down. .a lot of things that was suspect about the Ncaa like officiating but Paige deserved it
He didn't say that she didn't.
Old news! Bro, why you looking back instead of forward?
By the way, Caitlin had a poor 3 point shooting percentage as a freshman. She shot the damn ball even when the shot wasn’t really there.
Arizona did have an amazing coach, and, yes, Aari was great and is dong quite well as a pro despite her height.
Paige definitely deserved it! She earned it
Will not take any thing away from Paige, as she is my Lady.. I have watched most her High School games on the net, but as saw Aari play against her I had to jump on her band wagon!!!! My problem is why has it taken her 2 years in Atlanta to get more playing time and start scoring.... I was hoping when she went there that she would start and feed Ms. Howard the ball and she would be throwing in the 3's....But No!!!!!! Where is her confidence and who is going to boost her, tell her she is loved by the fans!!!! I know she has side gig with AZ as scout/new talent finder etc. but lets shake her up, get the Lady going!!!!
Please take time to tune in tonight for the Dream's game against the Storm, NBA TV, EST 7pm. The Dream are still in contention for the WNBA playoffs and Aari is getting plenty of playing time. The Dream has, in my opinion, an extremely controversial coach in Wright. She's shuffled Aari around like a rag doll, but Aari has more grit and determination than any player on the team. I have followed Aari's career since she beat PB in 2021. She's a WINNER in every aspect of her game.
That year Caitlin Clark had better stats than Paige. The team played a harder team. As a freshman she led the country in points and second in passing. When they played each other. Both scored the same. UnConn had the better team. But to say Paige had better stats. I don't think so.
Can't agree with you Juan. The stats she had over Paige were her PPG, RPG and APG. She had one more RPG than Paige and 1.3 more APG. Paige had a better FG% by 5%, a Better 3PT% by 6%, and a better FT% by10 1/2%. She also had more SPG and half the number of fouls per game.
it’s not just stats, it’s game IQ, Paige’s whole team can play. Caitlin only has czinano, they’re like a duo in the game. Paige’s whole team can play and score, she doesn’t have to put sm work, but she does. Caitlin is one of my favourite players ever but she had mistakes as a freshmen, she had some questionable turnovers in one game, no player is perfect, but Paige deserved that award, her passing ability is amazing as a freshmen, her assists, but she’s not perfect, no one is. not even aari. She carried her team on her shoulders because she was pressured (aari)
Amen!@@violetforpb
@@violetforpb UNABLE TO BEAT ND
@@lecowardjames man you’re actually obsessed UConn loss and you blamed it on Paige okay 🤣
I agree with alot of the things you said about the media. But comparing Paige to Aari is like comparing a Ferrari to a Tesla. Paige is at a complete different level. The only reason Paige didn't score 35 per game is because she's a pass first type of player. The team Paige carried wasn't stacked either. Aari plays a few minutes a game on average for Atlanta as well whereas Paige will be one of the best players in the league, the moment she steps on the court. Paige plays like a guy more than any female I've ever seen. I have season tickets for the Sparks and I've seen Aari play a few times in person. Rhyne Howard is a beast. I know ur talking about college from Arizonas championship year but your comparing a journeyman type of player to someone who has the chance to elevate the women's game to unprecedented heights along with Caitlin Clark.
Begging you to get over it. It’s been years. Go outside maybe
Saying that their WNBA caliber players really isn’t saying anything at all about them now if you would’ve said, they were overseas caliber players, then that would carry more weight, then saying WNBA caliber👀👀🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
This isn’t me attacking page while I am attacking page! What a hypocrite!
The media and selection committee will need to not have narratives with these awards and look at the numbers against real competition. Their better not be any l$u players in consideration for any awards.
You get ready, the media can't deny ANY LSU players or their coach any awards.
@@mplou699 they will give the awards to the deserving players
What's your issue with LSU?
@@ms.peaches1 who are you?🙃
Paige Bueckers! They got it right!
Paige Bueckers by 1000% !!!!!
Ari all the way!!!
Dude, that’s totally uncalled for! Get out of here with the race BS! How did Aaliyah Boston win it the next year? Her stats won’t even close compared to Caitlin Clark!
Caitlin wasn’t being doubled either. It’s more than just scoring the most points. This video about Paige, not aliyah Boston winning it the next year when Caitlin won it this past year.
CC was not being TRIPPLED. AMEN, I'm with you@@Okayyouwin
I watched the video and I watched the game and I came to this conclusion. Paige definitely had a better senior year and freshman than the girl that play in Arizona. Paige stayed with one team. The the huskies played against them Williams fouled out and Muhl was still recovering which would have been the two guards that would have been guarding Mcdonald. The huskies also had an international player that was ineligible that game.
Transferring teams isn’t correlated to the national player of the year award. The media talked about all year about how good of a defender Paige was. She should’ve been able to step and guard her.
OvertimeI think Paige will develop into a player than Aari (if she can stay healthy) but that year I’m taking Aari all day.
I feel that the coaches didn't prepare well to defend against Mcdonald the way they would prepare for Park Lane . Not to say that Park Lane is better. That's my thoughts.
Paige is the best, lets put them together and do a 1v1 and see what happens.
Good thing women’s college basketball isn’t a 1v1 game…
You wouldn’t want that anyways. Aari is too quick
It wasn’t a direct 1v1 but we’ve already see them play each other and Aari outperformed.
Paige is more skilled but Aari much stronger and faster. It might not go the way you think it would.
@@maxpower247 wow a senior outmuscled a true freshman. Begging you to move on with your life
and Aari is more durable@@DD5603_
In 2021 Paige was a unanimous first team AA and POY by AP, Naismith and USWBA. Works for me. Why did it take two years to decide otherwise. I'll stay with the experts.
You gotta live in Arizona? lol
Biased
I think the British army of 1775 lost to the colony of what became United States plus Paige got hurt that year so didn’t play the whole year. The voting is based on popularity not ability and Paige is better player any day of the week and twice on Sunday than no playing defense Caitlin Clark who was hyped up big time by the media for ratings.
Over analysis. People vote simply based on who they think is the better player and most people just feel Beuckers is better stats or no stats.
Ah, when it comes to an institution with the power of selection and the media, it will always be a white female who will get the ultimate crown. It doesn't matter if they don't have the best stats or play on a championship team; they represent the institution's power and who they want to shine, and that's the politics of sports. Paige Bueckers, just like Catlin Clark, got roped up and outplayed by undersized guards who led and won the college championship. Neither Destiny (SC) or Alexis (LSU) was not even given honorable mentions for an all-American team after outplaying them in a championship game. That's how the system works: AA athletes and other ethnic groups' contributions to the game are constantly minimized, just like in every aspect of this society. As long as these women's groups are at the bottom of the power structure, there's nothing anyone can do. The NCAA is like every other institution in this nation; they pick the winners and losers the way they see fit, no matter the contribution of other groups. I don't believe a person who plays one end of the court like Clark should have won college player of the year, but you don't have much to say when you don't have the power to pick the winners and losers. These other stars have to wait until they go to the next platform to be recognized for their contributions to the game, but that's not going to happen at the college level, where they have to make room for their own. JMO, but the video was on point. It's politics and power, and unfortunately for players like Aari McDonald, they have none, so they are not going to be treated justly.
Clickbait video, there is no other explanation for this
way more talent elsewhere . Ari had a good season, Paige will have a great career.
PB is no Stewie nor Maya, get ready for disappointment.
She wasn't being compared to those two. She was being compared to Ari mcDonald , I'd take PB any day over Ari@@mplou699
It was Mcdonald who was the player of the year because Paige had 5 star players around her, the game is easier for her plus ESPN is located near uconn. Also Clark or Boston were better. Paige winning is a joke.
Took the words right out of my mouth!
Paige had zero seniors on her team! She was a freshman! She only lost one game during the season by three points! And her team was number one in the nation! Get out of here with this BS about Aari McDonald! She’s in the WNBA a below average player!
Aari McDonald took the wind right out of PB's sail, and you can take that to the bank, or were you not watching that Final Four Game??? Paige tried to defend and create fouls and got bumped all over the court. One of those such attempts got her hard to the floor and she was charged with the foul. She's her bodies own worst enemy.
Aari is playing for The Dream and they are currently in contention for the WNBA playoffs. I don't think PB could ever withstand the WNBA, there are WNBA players like the Sun's Alyssa Thomas who would wipe PB off the court in a couple of plays.
Paige played a 3x3 tourney with Jackie Young and Napheesa Collier when she was still in high school and Pheesa and Jackie were both already pros. Guess who the best player on the team was? She's also added 15 lbs of muscle to her frame since then as well.
I guarantee you if Paige entered the WNBA after her freshman season with Aari she would of been chosen way higher than Aari.