Why Tara Vandaveer needs to retire!
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- 0:00 Intro
0:45 Lauren Betts not getting enough limited
2:00 Stanfords terrible player development
3:35 Haley Jones and the mens basketball team thrown under the bus
5:30 Strange take on NIL - Hry
Fran Bilibi is also evidence of Tara kinda losing it. She pretty much never developed into what she was expected to be. She's basically just a mascot that dunks during pregame celebrations lol. That kind of athleticism should have been developed much better.
The WNBA all star game needed her…it’s a shame we got robbed of a player with such potential
Agreed. I never understood giving her less than 20 minutes any given game. She played so hard too.
yeah Fran not being an all american type player like she was capable of is probably the biggest question mark to me.
@@maxpower247 1 addition to my comment. In 2 of the last 3 ncaa tournaments, stanford was top 4...it completely debunks your entire silly argument. I have far worse words I could use, but I like your channel, so I will not use them.
@@alanlee3236 And only 10 minutes during Fran's senior year. I realize she was coming back from injury but 10 mins a game in her last season??? Tara plays favorites. Fran must have been really focused on her education for her to stay at Stanford all four years.
I would have never heard this awesome segment if Lauren would have stayed at Stanford and not transferred to UCLA. Great job.
Stanford and TVD underachieved but UCLA’s coaching is highly questionable at best. Even with all the talent, Cori Close will underachieve as she allows Osborne and Jones to be volume shooters, Rice to play reckless and never develop her shot, and have Betts been ineffective outside the rim/slow the offense. Be prepared to be significantly underwhelmed!
Oh boy, your take is definitely LOADED. I think you've painted things a little darker than they are but I have to admit, I agree on several points. The Cardinal's rotation this past season was baffling to me at key times. And its coaches seemed asleep at the wheel at important junctures (see the 4th quarter of the SC game that they should have won). And Betts needed a lot more playing time. She needed the opportunity to mess up and grow with the confidence that her coach is investing in her. I disagree that she's a generational player; she's just tall with some good fundamentals. I really believe Brink will get the best of her when they play UCLA - regardless of the venue. Betts is too slow IMO. I also believe they put too much faith in Jump. When she's hot, she's hot. Unfortunately, that wasn't that often. And she was a deficit on D. I think they flat out wasted Prechtel. What a talent! Tough defender, great teammate, great shooter - especially considering she's 6'5. I think if UConn or SC had her, she would have gotten way more time and possible an award winner at the end of the season.
All that said, TVD is not a bad coach and she still has talent on the roster. I'm confident she'll still recruit well and rebuild if she sticks around.
Oh I almost forgot - 100% agree about Tara's remarks concerning Liv Dunne. Prehistoric!! I was so disappointed. Empower women with whatever they choose - don't judge them with your old-fashioned morals. I bet there are a lot of coaches who think the same way she does. Time to step out of the dark ages.
Nice video!
I think Stanford is definitely gonna regret losing Lauren Betts to UCLA she's gonna be a Star, and I think she could be the next Aliyah Boston I truly believe that
Love A Boston and I see Lauren as a more of a generational talent that we have not seen in a while. UCLA will feature her game much more than Stanford.
Man I just don't see it. I guess I haven't watched her enough.I respect your pinion though and I hope she develops. One thing is for sure: she is a genuinely great person.
Tara's brought her teams to the Final Four every few years. Not nearly as consistently as she used to, but forcing her out runs the risk of a major step backward for the program. Her status as a coaching legend is half the reason she's still able to pull in major talent, but if she continues to fail to actually develop these players it's definitely time to start considering new options at head coach. Even the championship drought was staggering for a program whose name is often counted among WBB blue bloods.
Damn, you are good man. I just subscribed today. I look forward to watching more of your videos, especially during the season.
Appreciate it, and I got some real big things planned once the season started!
While I do think this season will be better because it will be Cams team, It's time. This past season was a mess. All that talent just wasted. Haley got worse with each passing season.
Telling others how to live should be ignored unless that person is being hurtful.
It's Lauren's decision to make. Let's see how she does wherever she goes next.
Long time Stanford bball fan. Not happy with Tara's rotation and player usage of late, or with uncalled for comment Tara made about men’s bball team ... but not mad at these ladies for using the transfer portal at all; in fact, I am looking forward to seeing Indya and Lauren playing for their new teams. Best wishes to both!
Adjustments to the NIL, transfer portal, and new age athlete, is imperative.. To transfer out of a Stanford education is mind boggling... Present day athlete is becoming stranger all the time.
Her transferring had to do with Tara
Agree. When the going gets tough, TRANSFER...today's student-athlete motto!
I totally agree with you her player development is extremely poor especially in recent years. She is definitely not preparing her players for the next level.
Stanford has been known for producing stars but for some reason they can’t do it anymore. It’s really weird
@maxpower247 The only star she has produced is Nneka.
You said Kim & Dawn are better than Tara. Why wasn't Geno mentioned. Geno has the ability to develop and teach players at a higher rate than all three others combined. Tara has 6 wins more than Geno. Tara has also coached for 6 years longer. Equivalent to an extra 225 games. Tara can't carry Geno's take out pizza order with her coaching skills.
I know that Lexie Hull was one the starters for the Indiana Fever this year, the team that drafted her last year, but has lost her spot in the starting lineup to fellow second-year player, Kristy Wallace, whom the Fever acquired in a trade from the Atlanta Dream in this year's WNBA offseason. Wallace is from Australia and played her college basketball at Baylor. It might have something to do with Stanford, where Hull played her college ball at.
I agree…..she is 70 years old and the game has passed her by
I saw Betts transferring from the beginning. I remember watching both Betts and Rice and I was wondering why Betts wasn’t getting nearly as many minutes at Stanford as Rice was getting at Ucla. At first I was joking saying she’d go to Ucla, but the more I saw she was barely getting minutes, I already knew she was gonna transfer. Heck if I was the number one ranked in my class I’d be confused as to why I’m not getting playing time either. I can definitely understand if maybe she wasn’t performing well, but she’s 6’7 and as you mentioned she proved in the Americup games that she is more than capable. I am super excited to watch her and Rice play for Ucla :DD. It’ll be a heck of a run for them I think in the championship
Comparing a player to how they are after a year of development to when they just first stepped on campus isn't fair. What player isn't better after their freshman year?
That’s my point. There should be growth after a players freshman year if you’re a top program. Improvements should be made every year, not just the first.
Just seeing this very good video. You can go deeper if you choose. Betts was highest rank to “escape” This is a good channel.
You also mentioned the lack of player development. UConn legit has multiple #1 ranked players out of HS who are nowhere to be found in the WNBA. Orrange, McCall, Williams were never #1 ranked players going into Stanford. Mosqueda Lewis (“retired”), Walker (WAIVED), Williams (WAIVED), and KL Samuelson (will probably be a bench player the rest of her wnba career) we’re all ranked at the top of their class but you call out the lack of development for programs who never had #1 players like these? 🤔🤔🤔
Dawn Staley, and arguably Frese @ Maryland, have taken too talent and developed. If you’re a true reporter, let’s see you look at programs that constantly get multiple MCD AA like Tennessee, Texas, North Carolina, Oregon, UCLA, etc and upload videos on why their coaches need to be fired 🤣
None of the UConn players transferred though…and UConn is still recruiting the most five star recruits out of high school year to year than anyone. The WNBA has been littered with UConn players throughout the years Stanford has had one WNBA success which is Nneka. Don’t come for UConn. Stanford is clearly on the decline while Geno and CD keep signing five star after five star. It’s also funny that KML and Lou were shaded when Tara literally begged BOTH to come to Stanford…and they went across country to Storrs as opposed to staying in their home state. There are also tons of good players not in the WNBA because of the lack of spots more so than not being good enough. This video is definitely speaking facts. Bringing up UConn who is no where near the boat Stanford is in just sounded like sour grapes.
Tara V. is a "dinosaur old prune" in the coaching field of today
I think it was very telling she decided to stay in conference. UCLA is going to be a sneaky pick for the Final Four next year. Love the potential PNR game with her and Kiki Rice.
Agreed. Kiki has a great midrange so that will be very difficult to stop.
Hell of story great production
She left because she didn't play enough. I don't blame her.
Strange argument. About every single ncaa-coach should retire in that case...we'll see Who wins the up coming ncaa championship. When that year is over, tara will still be one of those who has won the title that matters...
Stick a fork in Stanford. Hahaha. That NIL. Go hard on the old coaches. 😂😂😂 ….
I knew this about her the last 4yrs.
You are spot on in your observations. May hold more weight if you pronounce the lady's name correctly tho. Keep spitting truth, but cross the Ts and dot the Is
I would have considered playing both at the same time, kind of like twin towers, that would have been interesting!
Wow, this video put a nail in the coffin. Do one on Geno.
I’m not sure when but I’ll definitely get around to him. Uconn fans gonna be mad asf haha
@@maxpower247 That will be interesting. Not sure how you intend to show Geno is to blame for his teams being riddled with injuries the last two seasons, and his only transfer portal loss is Saylor -- who showed questionable ability to get to the next level after HS. A player's failure to transform from a top 50 HS player to a division I starter on a top 10 team is not always the fault of the coach -- sometimes it's on the player. Amari DeBerry
@@maxpower247 LOL Alright I'm gonna have to subscribe to catch it. I love Geno. He IS the GOAT IMO. AND he can be a big asshole to his players.
@@DirectionlessStudent LOL I love Geno too, but he has his flaws. And Mir McClean transferred to VA in the 21-22 season right after Saylor Poff.
@@alanlee3236 No doubt he has his issues -- chief among them his tendency to play his stars for too many minutes. But then again -- what coach doesn't? End of the day he's been more successful than any coach in women's basketball history, so I always find it amusing when someone with zero credentials steps us to tell us all why he sucks. Those who can do, and those who can't become critics. 😜
Why I've been a UCONN fan for 32 years. Geno has taken some hits like this as well....but hard to argue with his overall record. Count the players in the WNBA.....
Geno can put together great teams but his in game coaching is awful. Those two last second losses were on him. He knew who was going to take the shot and failed to have Nurse or Gabby defending. Tara and Geno rely way too much on talent to win. I hated Duke but had mad respect for Coach K. He constantly took lessor talent to the tournaments and came home with the chip. That's in game coaching.
I don't think Tara is losing it at all. She just won an NCAA championship 2021! Betts didn't do much last year, she couldn't make it up and down the court and she had 3 post players playing in front of her with much more experience. Tara has won the conference over and over and over again. This guy can't even pronounce her name correctly!
She should have retired years ago. . With the talent she has had and only two titles.
Betts was guaranteed a lot of NIL money at UCLA. Also guaranteed to start. Stanford doesn't want to get into NIL competition. Betts was not as good as Cameron Brink. She had no patience.
kiana williams isn’t even in the league
Neither are most of UConn’s #1 HS players + roster full of MCDAAs
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This is why she only has 2 or 3 national titles!!! This many victories and years at the helm for so low a number of titles..... Some thing has been wrong for a long time!!!! When is her contract up??? and will she complete it??? Today it is Dawng at the top stay on the job!!!