Sparta/Batavus Hub motor rework to use standard battery/motor controller.

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  • čas přidán 9. 12. 2020
  • On this video I´ll show you how to convert a non standard ebike hub motor from factory specs into a standard hub motor to be able to use it with a standard motor controller in case that you need.
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  • @nord_laender
    @nord_laender Před 3 lety

    Got a Sparta E-Bike... This is interesting... hope to see more!

  • @HassanDibani
    @HassanDibani Před 3 lety +5

    Awesome, I just picked up a cheap Koga with the danger Sparta motor and screen. I'll definitely do this. Thanks for the clear instructions

    • @wouterk2170
      @wouterk2170 Před měsícem

      Did you manage to get it back running? I also have a Koga E-runner, battery not for sale anymore. Would like to get it back running.

    • @HassanDibani
      @HassanDibani Před měsícem

      @@wouterk2170 I gave that bike away some time back, but it worked yes.

  • @jessegotowork
    @jessegotowork Před 3 lety +6

    you can also press down on the axle from the other side when the freewheel is removed, it is a way faster way to remove the hub motor.

  • @yahyay.1731
    @yahyay.1731 Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much for the video and your great work!

  • @radoslavradoslavov3528
    @radoslavradoslavov3528 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for the informative video!

  • @mohammedalmayyahi8574
    @mohammedalmayyahi8574 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks a lot for the information. Is it possible to complete the last stage of connecting the wires because I did not understand the sequel

  • @aC-ex6kz
    @aC-ex6kz Před 3 lety

    A BIG thumb up very helpfull thank you

  • @emilgil1490
    @emilgil1490 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank You Master. I only extend 3 wires from coils and put there universal steering from Aliex 18-55V 30A overheating all but since no gear in electric motor nothing to break ( killed giant and 8fun motor internal gear with full PWM 29,4V ). And back engine will not break my front suspension - since engine also breaks after connection coils to 24V 600W G6,35 super small halogen - a break that breaks and is not broken for 1000hrs + .

  • @startcherif
    @startcherif Před 3 lety

    very nice video

  • @deliyusuf924
    @deliyusuf924 Před 3 lety

    Hallo David, welke controller gebruik je voor.

  • @abdooallah3427
    @abdooallah3427 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for your boss. Just When we get this result with whom we will connect these lines 3 and 5

  • @leeverink32
    @leeverink32 Před 2 lety

    hello u did not say what the 3 wires under the white goop on the axle where and with out nowing removed them can i just solder wires on them to make it work or are they not important?

  • @dheereshadarsh3080
    @dheereshadarsh3080 Před 3 lety

    Hello!! i want to do the same Preparing like you!! but i want to use an external Pedal Hall Sensor!!! any Idea how to do!! I mean you using the 3. Motorcable, and all other Sensors extern !

  • @maksiozadymka4515
    @maksiozadymka4515 Před rokem

    Hello ,wirte what conontroller you use for this engine bacause it does not work on sine.tell me what little white piug is for whatyou re showing itto

  • @radekdz6296
    @radekdz6296 Před 2 lety

    Hello grat video! But one question, how You convert pass sensor, ion system have 4 wires .How You conect it to kt controller??

  • @frankboskoopable
    @frankboskoopable Před 2 lety +1

    David, what for motor controller?
    I have Error 07
    Do you have a link?

  • @TheOceanLoader
    @TheOceanLoader Před 2 měsíci

    Hi there - I just bought a Sparta ebike. The hubs are noisy. They say it was sat for a while. Would this stop the noise? Is there an easier thing to attempt - like is there somewhere I can feed oil into the hub? What oil should I use? Thank you for any advice!

  • @adrianduda9020
    @adrianduda9020 Před 10 měsíci

    Hi . Witch controller (model ) have you used? could you give some links ? thank you

  • @nrott1812
    @nrott1812 Před 2 lety

    Hallo.Ich habe Sparta nach deinem Rat umgebaut nur kann ich das Pass sensor nicht einbauen.Geht das überhaupt? Rad mit rücktrittbremsen.

  • @treemoon999
    @treemoon999 Před 3 lety

    useful.... danke schon.

  • @diyzona
    @diyzona Před rokem

    Hi. Do you know what are the contact voltage outputs on these bikes with older NiMh battery. 24V. What pin is what voltage? I replaced one battery with li-ion but there is a strange charger controller inside and now connected to li-ion I do not have all cables live. But I am sure they were with NiMh cells. So I would like to reconnect it all to BMS if they are all 24V. I don't know if some of them is 5V or 12V for lights or something like that. The battery has 6 pins. It say ion technology on it, even it's not li-ion. tnx

  • @user-cc9up3lx8m
    @user-cc9up3lx8m Před 2 lety

    Подскажите пожалуйста какой колектор нада к вашему колесу, на сколько ват и вольт

  • @Marc.Lanting
    @Marc.Lanting Před 3 měsíci

    How did you get the broken screw out?( green fase wire)
    I have 2 broken screws on 1 side of the wheel😢
    I must do the other side to bit the screws are so tight 😮

  • @qrsimon
    @qrsimon Před 2 měsíci

    What happens if you put 36v generic battey to the plus and minus of the hub?

  • @rudywissink3014
    @rudywissink3014 Před 2 lety +2

    Hallo David. Thank you for your fine video's. I made my own.The batterypack is working fine. I bought the same controller you did: S6-61. The hallsensor connector has 6 wires, witch one did you leave out? ( 5 outcomming from the wheel). The controller gives a error: 7, The wheel spins on pass 1 and higher, the throttel does not work. Do you have any suggestions?

    • @Suus265
      @Suus265 Před rokem

      I fixed the 07 error (motor) by using the learning wires and switch the support to full. I used a G51 but it looks quite similar.
      Two wires are power supply to the hall, and 3 are from the 3 sensors. I left the middle one out on top. 1 black, 2 -, 3 brown, 4 blue, 5 green, 6 yellow. Did you manage?

    • @rudywissink3014
      @rudywissink3014 Před rokem

      Thanks for your answer. The controller gives still error 07, but the bike runs. +/_ 32 km/h on the throtle. The battery is fantastic. Last long. Thanks for the design of the battery house.

  • @JonathanE.
    @JonathanE. Před 3 lety

    Goede uitleg, bedankt!
    Is het ook mogelijk ok de sensor te behouden?

  • @bturnwell
    @bturnwell Před 3 lety

    What size wire did you use for the 3 phase wires - its a struggle to get the original size wires + 5 hall sensor wires + heat shrink sleeve, through the slot/hole on the axle? Hw many amps flow through the power wires? Thanks

    • @Davideljeringa
      @Davideljeringa  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi, the 3 phases wire have to be min .75mm/sqr with this dimmensions is more than enough.

    • @abdooallah3427
      @abdooallah3427 Před 3 lety

      @@Davideljeringa hello

  • @tchaklit9413
    @tchaklit9413 Před rokem

    Hi please help me i have a Sparta m ion Gear it doesn't show batterie % and when i press the speed assistant mode to select the mode it stay few seconds and then back to the off position automatically without working how can i fix it ? The battery have 24 v but it's doesn't take a charge directly from the charger and the battery was open before i think the problem in the pcb bord of the battery how can i fix it?

  • @bturnwell
    @bturnwell Před 3 lety +1

    can you give a link for where to buy a harness for the motor. Thanks so much for this video series.

  • @gb3954
    @gb3954 Před 3 měsíci

    Which controller are hou using and which battery

  • @sammyjjoo
    @sammyjjoo Před 3 lety +1

    In my Sparta ION GLS+ rear wheel hub motor can remove only 1 cover (cable side). As remove the 2 round printed boards I have only a 5 wires connector coming from underneath (Hall sensors I suppose?): the other 3 cables are gone with the printed boards so nothing to connect the motor!

    • @marcoschreur3525
      @marcoschreur3525 Před 3 lety +2

      hoi Sebas , de drie gaatjes waar de onderste print met schroefjes mee vast zat , dat zijn de drie fase aansluitingen

    • @deleipat4803
      @deleipat4803 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marcoschreur3525 ja klopt heb ik geregeld thanx

  • @adnanonur1746
    @adnanonur1746 Před 3 lety

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jaspervandemeeberg8428
    @jaspervandemeeberg8428 Před 10 měsíci

    How did you get al those wires past the axle hole? Its way to narrow at my toptun motor to fit in 5 additional sensor wires

    • @maxmisura335
      @maxmisura335 Před 7 měsíci

      You can use lan cable wires
      They are very thin
      It worked for me

    • @jaspervandemeeberg8428
      @jaspervandemeeberg8428 Před 7 měsíci

      Thanx i eventually managed by putting some grease on the wires

  • @ivan1pipo
    @ivan1pipo Před 2 lety

    should I remove the cover from the other side as well????

    • @maxmisura335
      @maxmisura335 Před 7 měsíci

      You don't need to if the entire motor comes out but if it snaps back like at 13:08 you must open it from the other side

  • @Goljoo
    @Goljoo Před 3 lety +1

    Isn't there a brake sensor in that rear wheel?

    • @mariuszs.3029
      @mariuszs.3029 Před 8 měsíci

      No. It's torque sensor, and 3 hall sensors.

  • @yahyay.1731
    @yahyay.1731 Před 3 lety +1

    Hallo, what are the three thin wires ( others then the phase thick wires) in the axis of the wheel, what do we with?

    • @Davideljeringa
      @Davideljeringa  Před 3 lety

      Hi, finnaly I did nothing with them, just don´t touch it, is not really needed.
      Regards.

    • @yahyay.1731
      @yahyay.1731 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Davideljeringa Thank s for your reply! I redid my bike Sparta energy inside in this way, but it does not respond to the externe PAS sensor, the motor rushes constantly without a pedal !! where could the problem be? in the controller or PAS sensor?

    • @mikedoe4875
      @mikedoe4875 Před 3 lety +2

      these wires are from the torque sensor which is built in the rear axle! (this is wye the original bike has no external sensor)

    • @maxmisura335
      @maxmisura335 Před 7 měsíci

      Can I use the torque sensor as for example a replacement for a normal pas sensor?
      I mean to just connect it to the bike's controller.

    • @maxmisura335
      @maxmisura335 Před 7 měsíci

      Ok I just rewatched it an it doesn't work
      But how did the original controller know when you where pedaling

  • @mehdielandaloussi8563
    @mehdielandaloussi8563 Před 4 měsíci

    I have same problem can you please help me ?

  • @Pavelmjoy
    @Pavelmjoy Před 2 lety

    On our market i finde out same motor already rebuilded for common controller . But seller claim that it can handle 500W . If connect to 48V battery and 48V500W controller . What you think ? Can it be truth ? Can this motor work with 48V 500W controller without overheating? thanks a lot!

  • @samymomo3891
    @samymomo3891 Před 2 lety

    Please how to gonna remove this brings

  • @ziki19931
    @ziki19931 Před rokem

    Hi. I am your youtube subscriber. I watched your videos about altering the battery. I have a bike similar to yours. I bought it with a bad battery and want to check the motor. How can this be done without a multimeter?

    • @Suus265
      @Suus265 Před rokem

      Simple check is to disconnect the phase wiring. Then rotate the wheel. If you connect any 2 wires together, the motor works as a generator, and there is a current flowing. The torque needed for this will slow the wheel down which you can notice easily. So you can test if current can flow through the three phases of the motor.

    • @user-rq4wy5mz5s
      @user-rq4wy5mz5s Před 3 měsíci

      22:07

  • @abaddonknightgames2546
    @abaddonknightgames2546 Před 3 lety +1

    Why was impossible connect the PAS ssystem?(

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 Před 3 lety

      The bike already comes with a pas sensor but this motor is different cause it uses the bike chain to look if your turning the paddles

    • @abaddonknightgames2546
      @abaddonknightgames2546 Před 3 lety +1

      @@miles5600 i just buy controller and pass from Alliexpres and was successful for remake

  • @user-sf1hc6mk8d
    @user-sf1hc6mk8d Před 3 lety

    I would like to ask you about sensor
    Is it important or not to connect
    I have the same ebike und i did as you did but when i connected the sensor didn't work but without sensor it works
    Thanks

    • @Davideljeringa
      @Davideljeringa  Před 3 lety

      Hi, it depend of the motor controller you use, in some of them it is mandatory to use and in others as you mentioned it doesn´t work. If you provide more information about the motor controller you use may be I can help you more.
      Thanks.
      DJ.

  • @AndrewLudendorff
    @AndrewLudendorff Před 11 měsíci

    Hello, does the motor support 36v?

  • @maksiozadymka4515
    @maksiozadymka4515 Před rokem

    Witaj czy twój silnik ma wibracje i buczy mam taki silnik ma wibracje i buczy może wiesz dlaczego ,fajne video .

  • @oussamazgheib6943
    @oussamazgheib6943 Před 3 lety

    Correction not our .I mean with out sensors

  • @Full_Throttle_no_Brakes

    What is the max amps this motor can take? Does it survive to 50A? 75A?

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 Před 3 lety +4

      No these motors are made for 25 to 35 km/h so 50A is a little too much use 30 it’ll take that

    • @mariuszs.3029
      @mariuszs.3029 Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@miles5600This motors are rated at 24V 250W. So if not overvolted they'll run at about 11A. If overvolted they overheating quick, damaging magnets and burning coils

  • @hansdegroot652
    @hansdegroot652 Před rokem

    I have gray white and brown

  • @JollyRider83
    @JollyRider83 Před 7 měsíci

    This is nice, but you lose the torque sensor making this bike actually illegal.

  • @mathw2703
    @mathw2703 Před 3 lety

    Nice vid....but i dont understand very little you are saying...

  • @betheholyman1
    @betheholyman1 Před 3 lety

    What battery 36v 48v 52v ???? Ah 13 17 or 20 Ah thank you .. can you just connect any battery ???

  • @sebastianaguilar576
    @sebastianaguilar576 Před 3 lety

    Hola David ya estoy manos a la obra, pero no puedo sacar la tapa de abajo, que tiene las estrellas o engranajes de la cadena porque sale todo el motor, como hiciste en este caso?

    • @sebastianaguilar576
      @sebastianaguilar576 Před 3 lety

      lo que me confunde es que tu no sacaste esa parte de engranajes de la tapa, pero en mi caso no se si deba ser necesario mi sparta la ion M-Gear-Plus +

    • @Davideljeringa
      @Davideljeringa  Před 3 lety +2

      Hola Sebastian, debes sacar toda la tapa con motor incluido si no te sale el rodamiento, no te preocupes, es más voluminoso pero debe salir de igual manera, luego con el rotor ya desmontado lo mejor es que desmontes el rodamiento de la tapa para poder montar todo más cómodamente.
      Recuerda tener mucho cuidado mientras desmontas el rotor porque en cualquier momento se puede soltar el rodamiento y pillarte los dedos en medio, introduce un taco de madera o plástico en medio mientras estés sacando el rotor.
      Espero que se te de bien, saludos.

    • @sebastianaguilar576
      @sebastianaguilar576 Před 3 lety

      @@Davideljeringa Hola David ya lo he conseguido, estoy muy agradecido contigo por compartir esta info :) ahora estoy soldando los cables del motor y me surge la duda del sensor de paso que es el que tiene los 3 cables rojo, amarillo y verde mi controladora los trae rojo azul y blanco pero no se en que orden conectarlos, como los conectaste tu ?

  • @sananxrras5
    @sananxrras5 Před 6 měsíci

    I try with 48v 80kmh on display hahaha

  • @M609R
    @M609R Před rokem

    three wires, these are not PAS wires, this is not pedaling😂😂😂

  • @berishaskender6464
    @berishaskender6464 Před 11 měsíci

    Kann Mann auf deutsche Sprache

  • @soldaat-van-oranje
    @soldaat-van-oranje Před rokem

    Hey. You also fix battery 🔋 for a living? I hear you live in Holland