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Komentáře • 753

  • @RareEarthSeries
    @RareEarthSeries  Před 4 lety +137

    Prove them all wrong. Support the show:
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    • @Joso997
      @Joso997 Před 4 lety +2

      When were you in Istria, or is this stock video?

    • @katahadfield
      @katahadfield Před 4 lety +6

      @@Joso997 These episodes were filmed in May/June.

    • @zenoofcitium5262
      @zenoofcitium5262 Před 4 lety +13

      Ive been living here (Macedonia) 10 years. You encapsulated everything i've been trying to say. I hope you will be recognized for your vision. You are a pioneer. Not just for this series but for your entire work. I hope you...and many like you, can continue!

    • @Cryptoversity
      @Cryptoversity Před 4 lety +6

      8:29 where is this ski field and the mountain with lake? ....and again, Tito is very loved here in Slovenia, I also think you are misinterpreting.

    • @Daniel_Lav
      @Daniel_Lav Před 4 lety

      Absolutely love every video you make. Do you plan on visiting Romania ? You got a big fan over there!
      All the best

  • @TheCrazer666
    @TheCrazer666 Před 4 lety +1274

    Seeing my house in a Rare Earth video has to be the weirdest feeling I've felt in a long time

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron Před 4 lety +397

    Yugoslavia just broke up peacefully and everyone lived happily ever after right?

    • @MichaelTavares
      @MichaelTavares Před 4 lety +56

      The_Nuke my sweet summer child

    • @treskyplesky1189
      @treskyplesky1189 Před 4 lety +45

      Seems that never worked anywhere except for Czechoslovakia.

    • @shadowmax889
      @shadowmax889 Před 4 lety +10

      @@treskyplesky1189 Nah Venezuela and Colombia also split with out any war

    • @tetrahedron1000
      @tetrahedron1000 Před 4 lety +7

      @@mariocerin4105 That is not true. There were a number of wars in places like Azerbijan and Armenia.

    • @theblueskyisstolensunlight
      @theblueskyisstolensunlight Před 4 lety +4

      Peter Mackie still in war mate

  • @damyr
    @damyr Před 4 lety +691

    As a Croatian, I find this video objective and realistic. The only thing I could object is the video doesn't explain much about Croatia and its "question", but rather talks about Pavelic's and Tito's regime. Tho I can understand that, because the format is short and pretty comprimed.

    • @damyr
      @damyr Před 4 lety +38

      @@Languslangus The "question" I was aiming for is a bit more detailed history behind explanations of how and why Croatia got to collaborate with fascists regimes in the first place.
      I couldn't care less for some useless parasitic alliances and you shouldn't either.

    • @damyr
      @damyr Před 4 lety +16

      @@Languslangus ffs 🙄

    • @Jessie_Helms
      @Jessie_Helms Před 4 lety +8

      There’s 3 parts already out and a 5th on the way, so don’t fully discount him yet.
      It’s good to see someone from the subject area speaking on the topic though

    • @emanuel3345
      @emanuel3345 Před 4 lety +14

      @@Languslangus You are missing his point and are also wrong when it comes to Germany starting WWI. Austria-Hungary started it and Russia was also responsible for the scale of the war as well.

    • @carta8399
      @carta8399 Před 4 lety +2

      @@emanuel3345 He's not really wrong though, because it was the German empire that declared war on Russia and on France, after sending two ultimatum to stop the war preparations, backing its ally, the Austro-Hungarian empire, in its war on Serbia.

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms Před 4 lety +109

    God doesn’t play politics, people play God.

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria Před 4 lety +15

      I don't know man, have you ever read a holy book? 95% of what gods seem to do involves taking sides in petty local politics...

    • @baldokarinja4111
      @baldokarinja4111 Před 4 lety +1

      @@PlatinumAltaria what an asshole God was for writing those books, eh?

    • @theecuck9730
      @theecuck9730 Před 4 lety +1

      @@PlatinumAltaria Not a bible man but once Adam and Eve ate the apples mankind understood everything. They were naked and learned the differences of good of evil in man. It says man isn't created evil but can slip into darkness. Even religious books know god isn't in total control we make our own decisions and we still dont understand that yet. Most of those holy books are just guidelines and stories to help early civilization survive.

  • @bezimena3324
    @bezimena3324 Před 4 lety +39

    My grandfather spent 5 years in prison for just saying "fuck Tito"

  • @bravogolfnovember
    @bravogolfnovember Před 4 lety +269

    You bring a very interesting perspective on all these events and I really enjoy watching your material. The tragically comedic destiny of our peoples is one where we are closely enough related to be able to form a single identity that encompasses all our regional ones, but we are unable to do it successfully. This comes from history and our different religions. Unfortunately, that is our fate for living on a political fault line since the dawn of time. Despite all our genetic similarities and everything we have in common, our religions make us just different enough for those with bad intentions to be able to divide us.
    But there is a reason for optimism, our peoples have survived there for a very long time and we are not going anywhere. Eventually, we will figure out how to live together peacefully. It may not be in a single country or whatnot, but given enough generations of peace, we may be able to move on from this cycle. That is why the Dayton accords, for all their insufficiencies and colossal mistakes, still do have value. Keep the peace long enough, build economic interests and interrelationships and make conflict and war an extremely poor alternative for everyone involved. Given enough time it can and will work, because if it doesn't there won't be anyone left to call themselves serbs, croats or bosnians.

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria Před 4 lety +8

      I mean, religion is a rapidly dwindling issue thanks to the internet. And with projects like the EU it's possible to, at least on the surface unify people into categories broader than nations.

    • @Zingam
      @Zingam Před 4 lety +2

      Well, just through out all these Semitic Abrahamic religions and return back to the native Orphism (Orphean mysticism). Problem solved!

    • @rickc2102
      @rickc2102 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Zingam Correction: Problem supplanted by new problems!

    • @ognjenpavlovic670
      @ognjenpavlovic670 Před 4 lety +4

      This reminds me of my professor of National Thought (Joep Leersen) at Universiteit van Amsterdam. He further developed the idea of Sigmund Freud as "Narcissism of small differences". This would mean something in the line of two groups being so similar that after a point of similarity they get an enormous drive to distinguish themselves from one another. For Freud that was the problem of European nation states, their similarities. This can obviously be reflected in post Yugoslavian countries as we can see that culturally every ethnicity is trying to distinguish themselves from one another.
      On the other hand, Dayton. I mean as we analyzed and learned about it at uni, it suffices to say that it was a peace building agreement and not a state building agreement. Problem is that the international community, as well as local politics, lost their will to change it in the 21st century as it should have been done by original promises. In my opinion, for now we can only rely on this aged Dayton and try to make the best out of a bad situation. I guess there's no point in even discussing changing the Dayton until the local politics become much less corrupt and obsessed with ethnic divisions.(which ironically feeds back into Freud's argument)

    • @bravogolfnovember
      @bravogolfnovember Před 4 lety +2

      Ognjen Pavlovic Funnily enough I have this suspicion that by the time it will be possible to change Dayton we will need no substitute for it. It just won’t be necessary.
      What we need is called “ontzuiling” in the Netherlands and they went through that process after the 2nd World War. Back then the protestants read newspaper x, the catholics y. They all had their political parties they voted for, etc. Honestly it was more similar to Dayton than you would think!
      Eventually they wisened up, I hope we do too.

  • @samiularko
    @samiularko Před 4 lety +26

    This man could narrate dumping garbage passionately.

  • @levmatta
    @levmatta Před 4 lety +50

    "The picture perfect communist. He had all the fancy suits to prove it" this joke is still true. (Comment from Brazil)

  • @bennettfoley3018
    @bennettfoley3018 Před 4 lety +23

    Evan, I really love that last note in the credits card at the end. Especially for being a more opinion-ey explainer channel, acknowledging fallibility like that fortifies my respect for you and your work a lot. Keep on keepin on, my friend.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před 4 lety +2

      It's ironic that the title card at the end telling me not to trust them too much, makes me want to trust them more.

  • @morgan97475
    @morgan97475 Před 4 lety +11

    In 1992, a friend of mine at school told us of his visit to Yugoslavia during 1989. He told that the people he met there were expecting a war soon. They certainly got it.

  • @augustusimperator.avi1872
    @augustusimperator.avi1872 Před 4 lety +96

    Interesting, where you found that sign that says "voluntarios internacionales de la libertad 1936 1939? Its from the spainsh civil war! It means: international volunteers for the freedom 1936 1939

    • @augustusimperator.avi1872
      @augustusimperator.avi1872 Před 4 lety +2

      @daniiel mlinarics yes, but the video is from croatia, so the sign should have been in croat🤔 or is a sign of a place for spanish emigrées or ex figters? Where are you from btw?

    • @augustusimperator.avi1872
      @augustusimperator.avi1872 Před 4 lety +2

      @daniiel mlinarics cool :) so its a place for croat international brigadists then :) thx for the info 👌

    • @Namkify
      @Namkify Před 4 lety +3

      @@augustusimperator.avi1872 I'd guess, that plaque was probably gifted to Yugoslavia as gratitute and in memory of the Volunteer divisions.

    • @mirkovukoslavovic2636
      @mirkovukoslavovic2636 Před 4 lety +4

      @@augustusimperator.avi1872 yugoslavs from whole ex country were involved in the spanish war, even from Montenegro. Yugoslavia existed before it's Tito Socialist era.

    • @damirdraskovic2553
      @damirdraskovic2553 Před 4 lety

      there were a lot of yugoslav volunteers in spanish civil war. They were mostly ethnic Croats, so when WWII broke out they had crucial role in organizing resistance in Independent State of Croatia. If it wasn't for them, partisan resistance would most likely fail.
      After the war they were quite romanticized.

  • @connannbarbarin3033
    @connannbarbarin3033 Před 4 lety +63

    The Axis powers offered Vladko Maček the opportunity to form a government, since Maček and his party, the Croatian Peasant Party (Croatian: Hrvatska seljačka stranka - HSS) had the greatest electoral support among Yugoslavia's Croats - but Maček refused that offer.

    • @nocomment5705
      @nocomment5705 Před 3 lety +4

      Maček and the 1st Yugoslavia(KSCS) which ever had any chance to survive or to fall apart peacefully. The Cvetkovic-Maček treaty was the only one which could divide the country peacefully and which would somewhat respect historicalðnic borders within the land.
      Tito's borders essentially caused the wars in the 90's, plus quite a few wars to come I'm afraid.

  • @leehaseley2164
    @leehaseley2164 Před 4 lety +6

    What a true masterpiece, Rare Earth!
    Such power, clarity and impartiality. Thank you.

  • @kreol1q1q
    @kreol1q1q Před 4 lety +189

    Being Croatian, I must admit I liked this video a lot. But I feel the title is somewhat misleading, as it doesn't actually discuss the "Croatian Question", but rather Tito and Pavelić, the two faces of Croatia at the time of World War II. And while it does so very well, I felt the title implied a discussion of broader context that wasn't there. I get it though, the videos can't really be long enough to do that effectively and with punch.
    On another note, I truly, honestly, and from the bottom of my heart thank you for how you portrayed the Ustashe regime and Pavelić, and for using correct casualty figures. Listening to Croatian extreme nationalists diminish the Ustashe's wrongdoings and make up excuses for them is utterly disgusting. And at the same time it's extremely frustrating listening to Serbian extreme nationalists blowing the figures up to 1, or even 1,5 million dead Serbs - isn't 300,000 dead innocents a shattering enough figure?

    • @HisameArtwork
      @HisameArtwork Před 4 lety +3

      most of his titles are thought provoking, thus he uses tactics that can be "clickbaity" like misleading "tittles". I don't mind this, been a fan of the channel for a long time. I follow channels that have more confusing titles than this. XD

    • @jakovcu
      @jakovcu Před 4 lety +2

      Same thing with communists supporters downplay caracter of Tito regime

    • @tetrahedron1000
      @tetrahedron1000 Před 4 lety +1

      @Josip You say that Tito would have had LGBT people killed but homosexuality was legalised in Croatia and Slovenia in 1978. I am not sure if he had strong views on that subject.

    • @joputhiyaparambil07
      @joputhiyaparambil07 Před 4 lety +2

      @Josip Since Tito was a authoritarian ruler, he could easily strike down those pro LGBT legislations right?

    • @jakovcu
      @jakovcu Před 4 lety +4

      @Josip I agree 100% that LGBT is out of their mind. Praising Tito and communism. I was surprised when I saw some people with Che Guevara Tshirts on "Zagreb pride". We know what Cuban communist did to gays, and rest of communist countries and ex Yugoslavia were not much different.

  • @drazen1529
    @drazen1529 Před 4 lety +38

    This video will look to simplified for people of Balkans, but for sure it is because we are overthinking our fate. It is for everyone to understand our fate.

    • @Brad-ku9yu
      @Brad-ku9yu Před 4 lety +1

      Somebody who gets it! I fell into a deep wiki hole on the subject a couple weeks ago and I'm still not sure how everything went down.

  • @elvenchipmunk2369
    @elvenchipmunk2369 Před 4 lety +84

    This is the one channel I will drop everything to watch a new upload from. Keep up the fantastic work Evan and crew

  • @albib4
    @albib4 Před 4 lety +12

    Wow! I cannot even begin to understand how you managed to cram so much footage from Slovenia (even the opening scene!) in a video about "The Croatia Question" (whatever this is supposed to be ...). It surely couldn't be a mistake.

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před 4 lety +3

      Watch the first video in the series, and read the description.

  • @janekfan666
    @janekfan666 Před 4 lety

    Your videos are so fantastically structured, shot and edited, along woth having incredible information about the regions you visit. Truly a masterpiece

  • @naanamora3282
    @naanamora3282 Před 4 lety +7

    Love watching your channel. Look forward to it all the time. Beautifully narrated and easy on the ear.. The diction and choice of vocabulary is brilliant. Too broke to contribute in patreon but I hope to soon.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • @Hassan_MM.
    @Hassan_MM. Před 4 lety +19

    Good But No mention of :
    His Narrow Escape from Nazis
    His Fight against Partisan Forces
    His Investments in Slovenia & Croatia
    Unlike other Soviets his Reluctance to Enter Soviet Federation

  • @Omnigreen
    @Omnigreen Před 4 lety +4

    Wow, this is such a fascinating series, historical and political/philosophical thoughts in combination with incredible views of today's looks of countries, best fusion of historical and travel content that I have ever seen!

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 Před 4 lety +66

    Talking about the Balkans?
    Oh boy the comments will love this.

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Languslangus nah I actually love the Balkans.
      I just wanted to make a joke.

    • @nesa1126
      @nesa1126 Před 4 lety +1

      wait for next one lol it will be shitshow

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 Před 4 lety

      @@Languslangus oh boi.

  • @ReaperUnreal
    @ReaperUnreal Před 4 lety +2

    Very interesting, thank you! I look forward to the last episode in the series and then to rewatch the whole thing at once.

  • @gzpo
    @gzpo Před 4 lety +5

    I praise your narrative artwork in making history bare its sole. Give me more and more. Bravo! 💖😎

  • @PixiBoii
    @PixiBoii Před 4 lety +2

    Even though I know I'll forget it a week later, I still love watching these history videos because you are such a great storyteller.

  • @ElViejoYElViaje
    @ElViejoYElViaje Před 4 lety +6

    A great video as always. I really enjoy your channel. Salutations from Bogotá, Colombia.

  • @guybristow7472
    @guybristow7472 Před 2 lety +3

    Croatia? A lot of film footage from Slovenia, then Lindau in Germany. That was pretty random.

  • @nevar108
    @nevar108 Před 4 lety

    I applaud you tackling this vast and complicated part of the world through your lens! This is without a doubt my favourite series you have done so far. The photography is outstanding (it helps that where you are is so gorgeous), and you are NOT holding back on your opinion. It is nice to see an unabashed opinion for once in this world of wishy washy.
    Many may not agree with your opinion, but at least it opens a venue for dialog on it!

  • @spitfirered
    @spitfirered Před 4 lety +1

    Rare Earth, you are intelligent, you do your research and you are sympathetic with all your Documents, I appreciate and look forward every time and I learn something too!

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 Před 4 lety +2

    Another beautiful holistic and nuanced analysis and expose of a complex subject matter

  • @death03125880
    @death03125880 Před 4 lety +2

    First you listen to my advice, and then I also see my building! And, as always, great interpretation of really complicated story, over which people are still fighting here.

  • @PWN3DU01
    @PWN3DU01 Před 4 lety +9

    I like the addition of the music.

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 Před 4 lety

    Seriously outstanding quality as usual

  • @peterfernandes8238
    @peterfernandes8238 Před 2 lety

    Your documentaries blow my mind. Thanks a bunch.

  • @Revenge221
    @Revenge221 Před 4 lety

    Another astonishing video. I look forward to Part 5.

  • @balkanone9645
    @balkanone9645 Před 4 lety +4

    Great work Evan. Your ability to make the complicated, accessible, remains second to none. The Balkans is the rump and the consciousness of Europe also today. The former Yugoslavia nonetheless remains work in progress.

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 Před 4 lety

      Slovenes, Croats & Serbs are the smartest; the others will probably always remain a backwater

  • @123Dunebuggy
    @123Dunebuggy Před 4 lety +2

    Best video yet, so well writen.

    • @cetterus
      @cetterus Před 4 lety +1

      Flawed. Extremely flawed. Taking into serious consideration 50 year of intensive propaganda.

  • @milandjuric8043
    @milandjuric8043 Před 4 lety

    I really like this series, job well done

  • @Coffee_AddictBMX
    @Coffee_AddictBMX Před 4 lety +6

    RE been hitting the Dan Carlin lately and it shows. I’ve appreciated your series’ for a while and look forward to the next and following after.

  • @ecrusch
    @ecrusch Před 4 lety

    This series must have really took a LOT of research to develop.
    Thank you for the hard work to inform & entertain us...honest.

  • @stevedgrossman
    @stevedgrossman Před 4 lety +1

    One of my FAVORITE CZcams channels!!!!!

  • @Brados1221
    @Brados1221 Před 4 lety

    Thankyou for your videos Evan, Kata and Don.

  • @mhmd2629
    @mhmd2629 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video as always

  • @joobence94
    @joobence94 Před 4 lety

    very raw but true, my dude. totally different to the materials you used to do. very excited to see the next one. keep up the good work.

  • @DMasterplanL
    @DMasterplanL Před 4 lety +4

    The first ruler who not only coined a term Yugoslav but also made it mandatory was King Alexander as a last ditch effort to quell the nationalism of it’s citizens.

  • @Wallach_a
    @Wallach_a Před 4 lety

    This was perfect. 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @pedroparamo4938
    @pedroparamo4938 Před 4 lety

    I've never seen anyone so good at storytelling, huge respect!!!

  • @LiquidCourage
    @LiquidCourage Před 4 lety +78

    you forgot the best part about Pavelić after the independent state fell, he fled to the vatican under disguise and they actually let him stay

    • @theonewithmanynames3174
      @theonewithmanynames3174 Před 4 lety +8

      Derpwill na na na he fled to spain under francisco franko not vatican

    • @LiquidCourage
      @LiquidCourage Před 4 lety +11

      @@theonewithmanynames3174 "He entered Italy disguised as a priest with a Peruvian passport.[citation needed] Passing Venice and Florence, he arrived in Rome in the spring of 1946 disguised as a Catholic priest and using the name Don Pedro Gonner.[131] On arrival in Rome he was given shelter by the Vatican[130] and stayed at a number of residences that belonged to the Vatican[131] while in Rome where he started to gather his associates. Pavelić formed the Croatian State Committee (Croatian: Hrvatski državni odbor) headed by Lovro Sušić, Mate Frković and Božidar Kavran.[132]" However, he did later on go to argentina, and then finally spain.

    • @mkgzt
      @mkgzt Před 4 lety +5

      He fled to Austria. And tried to create a counter revolution during the elections in the 50s. His "spy" who crossed the border to start the revolution was caught by the army in Slovenia

    • @LiquidCourage
      @LiquidCourage Před 4 lety +9

      I saw Ante Pavelić at a grocery store in Zagreb yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
      He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
      I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
      The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
      When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

    • @treznorify
      @treznorify Před 4 lety +1

      @@LiquidCourage wtf

  • @apteropith
    @apteropith Před 4 lety +67

    Now I'm curious about the details of Yugoslavia's economic woes, because it's never anywhere as simple as "the failures of (Soviet-style) communism". The notion of "bankruptcy", in particular, raises many questions; it's an incredibly _capitalist_ thing to be vulnerable to.

    • @nikolabegonja5490
      @nikolabegonja5490 Před 4 lety +17

      As far as I understand, it lasted as long as the economic aid kept coming. Also Tito took out a lot of debt, and that came back to haunt us after he was dead.

    • @apteropith
      @apteropith Před 4 lety +15

      @@nikolabegonja5490 I read that the IMF became involved, which is always a bad sign.

    • @Socialistcheese111
      @Socialistcheese111 Před 4 lety +20

      SFRY was too heavily dependent on the Warsaw Pact/ COMCON for exports, it operated a market economy where you would have co-ops and other social enterprises running the factories instead of the state itself. Unfortunately when USSR etc stopped buying in the early 80's these co-ops which were less efficient and generally inferior to their western counterparts folded like a house of cards, inflation went up very rapidly and they never solved the supply side issues which nations like the UK did through neo liberalism.

    • @absentmindedshirokuma8539
      @absentmindedshirokuma8539 Před 4 lety +4

      @@apteropith because IMF only come hand when the problem starting to arise, that's it whole purpose. if economy is good, IMF shouldn't and can't intervene a nation economy policy. but when bed sign starting to arise, it's depend on the nation to listen to it or not. the problem with IMF is it's monopoly and too many nation depend on it's loans. which made it like global debt economic bubble.

    • @volvoxfraktalion5225
      @volvoxfraktalion5225 Před 4 lety +6

      @@absentmindedshirokuma8539 and it is used as an instrument to subdue small nations with debt

  • @Aeyekay0
    @Aeyekay0 Před 4 lety +1

    Interesting stuff, keep up the good work

  • @krim7
    @krim7 Před 4 lety +1

    Great job!

  • @michaelchitwood389
    @michaelchitwood389 Před 4 lety +2

    Great presentation! I have always been interested in the Balkans. Beautiful lands and people caught in the jaws of History.

  • @Awakeningspirit20
    @Awakeningspirit20 Před 4 lety

    Damn dude you are a GREAT narrator! I could see your voice narrating parts of a Marvel movie or something like that (helps that these historical figures inspired a lot of comic book characters!). I notice an odd paradox in Europe- that the most beautiful places seem to be where the worst atrocities took place. Croatia, Poland, Germany. Those shots of Croatia are amazing, I'd love to go see it one day!

  • @GDKLockout
    @GDKLockout Před 4 lety

    Great video, thanks.

  • @vincentconti3633
    @vincentconti3633 Před 4 lety +13

    I remember Tito. Yikes! I'm old!

  • @thesayxx
    @thesayxx Před 4 lety +1

    So Slovenia next? Cant wait! :) hope Evan is having a great time in Cuba!

    • @debil8290
      @debil8290 Před 4 lety

      I think he will talk about the war next time. Since he ended on that note

    • @red-eyedblackbird8048
      @red-eyedblackbird8048 Před 4 lety +1

      Slovenia is a footnote. I guess not.

    • @thesayxx
      @thesayxx Před 4 lety

      @@red-eyedblackbird8048 footnote? lol we were the final nail in the coffin of yugoslavia.

  • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 Před 4 lety +11

    Darn shame that ideology can produce such evil, in the name of freedom, independence or even unity - a unity that ultimately pull people apart, even within a single family.

  • @pscwplb
    @pscwplb Před 4 lety +16

    The only way I'd buy a souvenir hat from Croatia is if it said "Hrvatska" on the brim.

    • @theonewithmanynames3174
      @theonewithmanynames3174 Před 4 lety

      pscwplb and what do you think what is written on hats in croatia ??? I mean your comment is so useless

  • @mayamaeru
    @mayamaeru Před 4 lety

    what a beautiful place!

  • @AnteGV1950
    @AnteGV1950 Před 4 lety

    lijepo je vidjet ovoliko Rijeke u videu, bez da je spomenu, znaš da je ona...svaka čast na videu!!!

  • @tadesubaru1383
    @tadesubaru1383 Před 4 lety +1

    An episode about Croatia??? Sign me the hell in

  • @hobg5786
    @hobg5786 Před 4 lety

    Wow. Great video.

  • @ale6rbd
    @ale6rbd Před 3 lety

    Can somebody write down the locations that appear in the video? I could only recognize Pola

  • @Wreckedandruinedand
    @Wreckedandruinedand Před 3 lety

    Which videos are episode 1, 2, 3 and 5? Gonna binge it later

  • @ThePhobosAnomally
    @ThePhobosAnomally Před 4 lety

    The first part - lake is in Slovenia. Lake Bled.

  • @bogdanradicevic7283
    @bogdanradicevic7283 Před 4 lety +4

    Another great episode! I just feel like you're missing out on quality footage by not filming anything in Belgrade.

  • @nathanseper8738
    @nathanseper8738 Před 4 lety +37

    Reading about the Serbian genocide is a horror story. I still don't get how human beings could sink to such depths.

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria Před 4 lety +18

      Humans: "Wow, how could people have done this."
      Also humans: "It's completely justified for us to do this because XYZ."

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 Před 4 lety +12

      @@mariocerin4105 Hundreds of thousands of Serbs were murdered by the Croatian fascists.

    • @chlorine5795
      @chlorine5795 Před 4 lety +4

      Human beings don't sink into depths...We live in those depths ,and when veneer of so called civility lifts, We are the abyss.

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mariocerin4105 No, that was Bosnian Serbs killing Bosnian Muslims.

    • @nickgreg78
      @nickgreg78 Před 4 lety +2

      Mario Cerin yes exactly the same! They live for ever! They are robots from the future! Read a book...

  • @TheThomeck
    @TheThomeck Před 4 lety +34

    I was so suprised/amused when i walked into a pizzeria in Koper Slovenia and saw tito's face on the mantle above the bar.
    3 years later i still regret not making a picture of it.

    • @Abraxium
      @Abraxium Před 4 lety +3

      And I thought seeing crucifixes in Eurospin in Italy was weird lol

    • @user-ue4nq3kc3j
      @user-ue4nq3kc3j Před 4 lety +5

      It is quite common to see Tito's photos in bars, pubs, restaurants and homes in Bosnia.
      Part of the video from around 6:40 is actually a a pub in Sarajevo which is simply named "Tito".
      Main streat in Sarajevo is still called "Ulica maršala Tita" and also in the video you can see a statue of Tito which still sits in the yard of Sarajevo university.
      Many people to this day, even young ones who were like me born long time after Tito died, and Yu fell apart say "I swear by Tito" when they want to make you sure they are telling the truth.

    • @SoRAnubis
      @SoRAnubis Před 4 lety

      @@mariocerin4105 Hrvat je tat.

    • @PeterKese
      @PeterKese Před 4 lety +4

      After WWI, the western part of Slovenia was occupied by Italiy and the fascist Mussolini regime was treating those people very badly for more than 20 years.
      So it was the Tito's communist army that liberated them from Italians in 1945, and that's why you'd see Tito's pictures still hanging around in that part of Slovenia. It feels weird to the rest of Slovenians just as well.

    • @valentintapata2268
      @valentintapata2268 Před 4 lety

      @UCeTaCN_o5DSjTkW-3xRyhOg After WW1 Littoral Slovenia came under Italy. The rest of Slovenia was first for one month In State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and after that it Joined to Serbia = Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. I suggest you brush your history before you comment.

  • @e1nste1in
    @e1nste1in Před 4 lety +4

    Went to Croatia 7+ times, always saw the bullet holes in the houses, I guess I should have read some more Wikipedia ...

  • @eliharman
    @eliharman Před 4 lety +1

    The lion and the lighthouse at the harbor entrance look exactly like the ones at Lindau on Lake Constance in Bavaria.

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před 4 lety +1

      They are Lindau. That part of the script is talking about Germany. :)

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 Před 4 lety

    A classic Rare Earth episode.

  • @falkkiwiben
    @falkkiwiben Před 4 lety +16

    Well I mean, we are (morbidly) laughing

  • @BucketListAdventures
    @BucketListAdventures Před 4 lety

    I'll be visiting there really soon!

  • @AndrejGobec
    @AndrejGobec Před 4 lety

    Seems weird seeing my current and past country in this video. Also grounded and somehow cathartic. Amazing that one person bound us all together.

  • @GiulioImparato
    @GiulioImparato Před 4 lety +4

    2:24 at least she has a tomb unlike the ones thrown into ravines

  • @andgainingspeed
    @andgainingspeed Před 4 lety

    Loving yet dreading these videos dropping on Saturdays. This is a heavy series marching towards ... well, you probably know because maybe you watched it on television, or if you were unlucky, lived through it. Even now, things are complicated, and violence could always flare up to the point we could be seeing parts of the the former Yugoslavia in media reports again. I'd rather see more on this channel about how things are shaking out in the individual bits and pieces left from the last big outbreak of violence. 😬

  • @Bamiyanbigasf
    @Bamiyanbigasf Před 4 lety +8

    some of my great grandparents came from this beautiful country

  • @kenanschwoebel8626
    @kenanschwoebel8626 Před 4 lety

    I can't believe you came to my city man lmao

  • @hajime5486
    @hajime5486 Před 4 lety

    Always great shows. I would love for you to cover Korea or India

  • @Audioynuyor
    @Audioynuyor Před 4 lety

    Violence begets violence,
    It becomes part of life.
    The curse of every generation,
    Like a met expectation.
    This one has to be the best one yet Evan.

  • @Aurelius511
    @Aurelius511 Před 4 lety

    Does anyone know where that Neon Tito café at 6:53 is and what it's called?

    • @mkgzt
      @mkgzt Před 4 lety

      Cafe is in Sarajevo. Has a tank and several military equipment on its lot. Called "Cafe Tito"

  • @filip4306
    @filip4306 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for another great episode.

  • @stan3277
    @stan3277 Před 4 lety +2

    that lake looks nice

  • @Dulika63
    @Dulika63 Před 4 lety +2

    What labor camp? Goli otok, the place where he sent Stalinists? Good thing Guantanamo Bay is a Holiday In

  • @AllenManor
    @AllenManor Před 4 lety

    What is the location at the 2:00 mark?

  • @mrDjuroman
    @mrDjuroman Před 4 lety +16

    While I think a lot of this is well nuanced and true, I can't shake the feeling you avoided all nuance in the question of the church, and the only real statement made about the Croatian church is that the priests were involved in genocide. While some undoubtedly were, I find it odd that you even admit Tito persecuted political enemies, but don't seem to consider the possibility the church hierarchy may be included in that too, and that innocents were also killed.

    • @petergbrics7260
      @petergbrics7260 Před 4 lety +2

      There was a lot a people killed.All kinds of people,all over Eastern Europe.The communists were mad,and even if you didn’t wanted to be communists,the large powers divided up Europe.We Eastern European countries were just given to the Soviet Union,and the Bear leaned onto these countries heavily,militarily.

  • @madansharma2700
    @madansharma2700 Před 4 lety

    You are very good.

  • @Mrnevertalks
    @Mrnevertalks Před 4 lety +7

    Is it just coincidence the Evan happens to find anti-war street art everywhere he films this season, or is there just that much of it in the region that he can easily find it?

    • @Rokhan91
      @Rokhan91 Před 4 lety +6

      look up what the yugoslav wars are, that should clarify it

    • @Joso997
      @Joso997 Před 4 lety +1

      it is at every corner.

  • @uporabn1k
    @uporabn1k Před 4 lety +1

    What is up with Slovenia in half of the shots? I guess Tito was half half but still.

  • @fredstocking3812
    @fredstocking3812 Před 4 lety

    Adjusted Patreon to reflect the value of the history.

  • @darthtrump4428
    @darthtrump4428 Před 4 lety +1

    im just gonna leave this here Serbosjek ; a knife, for which a direct translation would be Serb cutting tool
    simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbosjek

  • @KristinaTurnerAquarius

    Yugoslavia just happened to be where World War I and II started and when I was there at 16 in May 1992. Czechs and Slovaks and Russians were also involved. I do not remember half my life because of being MIA/POW with inappropriately treated Traumatic Brain Injury and PTSD and Traumatic Amnesia. Explains why I avoid family reunions where I was attacked since I was 4 and they are responsible with CIA and KGB involvement.

  • @martinbruhn5274
    @martinbruhn5274 Před 4 lety +14

    Among the images you are using is one of the harbour of Lindau, a city at the lake constance in bavaria, which is, you know, not in croatia. So, either you made a mistake, or you just randomly wanted to throw in a testimony of your admiration for the beauty of Lindau, for whatever reason.

    • @kostek4430
      @kostek4430 Před 4 lety +1

      1:43

    • @katahadfield
      @katahadfield Před 4 lety +17

      That section talks about Germany in the war so their use isn’t random. But yes, Lindau ist auf jeden Fall schön.

    • @martinbruhn5274
      @martinbruhn5274 Před 4 lety +5

      @@katahadfield alright, fair enough, my bad

    • @mayamaeru
      @mayamaeru Před 4 lety +1

      @@kostek4430 omg thanks for explaining that. I thought that was the ocean and I was wondering where specifically (croatia or bosnia??). so beautiful!

    • @nickgreg78
      @nickgreg78 Před 4 lety +1

      Mario Cerin no you don't know history...

  • @sunnywung6395
    @sunnywung6395 Před 4 lety

    hey i saw your dad's ad for masterclass before your video

  • @567anty
    @567anty Před 4 lety +2

    Do a take on Bulgaria

  • @MrJovank
    @MrJovank Před 4 lety

    Come to Montenegro!

  • @lucas9269
    @lucas9269 Před 4 lety +18

    Come to Minas Gerais State - Brazil, you'll have countless stories to tell because a lot happened in the last few years and also because of its underrated history.

    • @henriquemelchiorgomes8750
      @henriquemelchiorgomes8750 Před 4 lety +1

      Imagina ele falando de Barbacena

    • @lucas9269
      @lucas9269 Před 4 lety +1

      @@henriquemelchiorgomes8750 Tem bastante história interessante que combina com o formato dele em Minas.

    • @theviniso
      @theviniso Před 4 lety +1

      @@lucas9269 As barragens renderiam um baita vídeo pra ele

    • @JaykPuten
      @JaykPuten Před 4 lety

      Ive seen the home made weapons from there, it makes the efficiency and strategy of any capatilist manufacturer of anything (much less guns/arms) seem like they're always outputting at 80% effeciency on a 24 hour 7 day work week, you'd still pump out twice the illicit guns as any legal (in any country) arms manufacturer to shame
      So I couldnt imagine the stories
      And Im just talking about the homemade or clandestine/illegally manufactured weapons ive seen online
      I cant imagine the stories that go with that kind of output or the past behind it
      Truly Id wish Id learned brazilian portugese instead of latin American Spanish as my second tounge, just to better understand the small personal recent stories behind such cleaverly created copies or artistic improvisation of regular produced (tarus, colt, FN, whomever) guns to shame
      Except for rifiling
      That seems to be the hardest part of such endeavor on the end of what Ive seen,( can a rifiling button not be bought off wish/from china?)that its either not done, or the barrel is just a regular handgun barrel cut into thirds from three inches to one(sorry, my meteric when speaking english sort of fails me, probably from being from "south detroit Canada" or "north windsor USA" in my english
      But its truly incredible the feats of engineering bravado Ive seen to take a regular handgun barrel and make thay short thing into three and yet still get the accuracy in sub machine gun range, or speed of a bullet hose with accuracy Ive seen
      Whod ever consider taking brass bar stock and turning that down to a chamber and most of the barrel till some rifiling is added, is either insane or on the verge of genius that Id not want to know the next frightening new novel, but incredible engineering shortcut nobody would consider using before, turning arms manufacturing into not just as blooming as estolchia california(california poppy) huge blooms in the west of mexico/US with the frightening artistry of the best jazz improvisation Ive been within earshot to witness
      And Im just talking about the illicit arms manufacturing there
      With no knowledge of the history
      Im sure the history would break a frightening tear to any person claiming to have humanity for one's fellow man
      Though where I come from, we could buy them in Detroit, or just make them in Windsor (using whats legal in windsor with some stray "american trash/parts" that somehow floated across the border
      Till 3d printing and its pricefall down to 200 a machine, makes the manufacturing here scary and real, given the cross between random deserted factories in Detroit for the metal(and non registered parts) to be produced, and to simply spend the 6hours printing the "regulated" part
      Sorry, ignore me, a long winded babbling former possibly addicted fool, to the current "blow/boy" epidemic thats ravengenged both sides of the "ambassador bridge"
      Baking coedine and pyridine hcl we the insane old fools, wating on the actual epidemic of pestulance of covid/corona to cross the border, but at 2.3% death rate, even thats safer than going for a casual drive anywhere in the world in a motor vehicle, though waiting to take an entire generation of tje elderly with chronic health problems will be a shame to lose those stories too
      Again
      Babbling fool syndrome
      Ignore me

  • @Libertyjack1
    @Libertyjack1 Před 4 lety +1

    There are a few too many liberties made, with regards to labeling and compartimentalizing the various groups, for me to like this video. It is a very well articulated perspective on the matter. An American perspective, obsessed with the triumph of capitalism, as the author chooses to envision it, over anything else.

  • @mukrifachri
    @mukrifachri Před 4 lety

    A common identity to call when you need to... interesting.
    Wonder if something would fill a similar void in the future.

    • @mukrifachri
      @mukrifachri Před 4 lety

      @@Languslangus ​ @Kosta M. Well it's not necessarily Yugoslavia... maybe something much bigger or smaller or idk. And it doesn't have to be as pervasive and as binding.
      Coming from a country with at least 12 major ethnic groups here, but it doesn't have to be a single country in your case.