2007 Lexus LS460 30,000 Mile Update Horrible Expensive Cost of Ownership and Repair Video
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2022
- I have my 2007 Lexus LS460L finally complete and fully sorted. In this video I go through the explanation of the cost to date of owning this car for a little over 30,000 miles and all the repairs that were needed on it. This car has been a little nightmare and very expensive to own to date but I am finally there. It has however been cheaper than the alternative of buying a brand new one so for that I am very happy. It also physically fits me better than other cars on the market. Please like and subscribe and join me for future updates to this car.
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Why would you buy a 15 year old Lexus and have it serviced at a dealer? If you looked for a decent local repair shop and sourced some of the parts from Rock Auto or parts stores you would have paid a fraction of the money you did 🤦♂️
Because I would like it done right, when I bought the car it had aftermarket front air struts and they were already failing. It also had “new” aftermarket valve cover gaskets that leaked within the first 1,000 miles and leaked all over an oxygen sensor and ruined an expensive oxygen sensor. Do it once, do it right, don’t have to do it again. If the factory valve cover gaskets lasted 120,000 miles, why wouldn’t I go with factory? lol obviously this is a free country, do what you want with your car but I’d like to get another 120,000 miles out of the parts I put on my car.
NO..... DONT......... I had nearly 5K (extended warranty paid like $3200) of work done on mine at what seemed like a reputable shop and they didn't fix half of what they said they did and some of what they did fix they did an incredibly poor job of. didn't fix the oil leak anywhere near properly so it continued to leak and killed my 02 censor. ultimately when I brought it back to them they said they just couldn't figure out what is wrong with the car and told me to take it to Lexus... now I have a lawsuit in order after this was exposed by Lexus and the inspector that came out to look at my car for the extended warranty company... fortunately my extended warranty company is paying another 3 grand but they simply aren't going to pay for things they already did that weren't done, which is completely fair. last time I came out of pocket $1200, this time I'm coming out $4850.. Don't be an idiot, these cars are far too sophisticated for your local shop period, take it to Lexus.
@@KillaLogeFTW I agree, some of these folks are a bit on the keyboard warrior side of things. They don’t really understand, I bought the car and the selling dealer had put in after market valve cover gaskets on it. They leaked. So I went to a local “good” “highly rated” mechanic for only toyota and lexus stuff. They had it and they said “there is nothing leaking” I took the covers off when I got home and ALL the spark plug wells were full of oil. So I haven’t had much luck with aftermarket parts and I haven’t had much luck with independent mechanic shops. So I agree that’s why I have been going to the dealers since.
@@alexsystems2001 yikes.. hear hear!! Yeah imagine if that wrecked your motor.. car would’ve been basically totaled & the BBB deleted my complain on the shop 3 days after submitting & there was another complaint like 3 years prior untouched. The better businesses bureau is a scam too!! You don’t buy a 70k MSRP car & just take it to any shop folks… TRUST!! Especially not a Lexus w their technology
Hey by the way, just an update; I picked my Lexus up from the dealer one week ago and it is running like an absolute champ. If anything the service guy (Stan) under quoted me & gave me a deal, I truly believe this. I knew one of the struts was particularly bad, but I thought they all were. He told me the other 3 were actually in good shape and likely wouldn’t need to be replaced for a while. I don’t anticipate any issues for a long time & if the brake actuator goes out, my extended warranty has got me! 😏😌 long live Thy Lexus
Proud Lexus owner here! and I can say that nothing beats the quality build and long term performance of my 2005 ES330!!! Amazing
I have a 2012 Lexus AWD. I change the oil twice per year. The car did burn oil, but after the sooner than later oil changes she burns no oil. I also down shift rather than stomping on the gas peddle. She is Obsidian in color, and the V8 is wonderful at 199,500 miles. The Lexus is also loaded with options. My cost was $13,000 to purchase, one previous owner, the car is wonderful. I spent 4 months driving my motorcycle, rain or sun, to find this car.
Thank you for your comment! I found that too, mine burned a little oil when I first got it but after a few regular oil changes with good oil the burning stopped. I also noticed when I first got it I had a little timing chain clatter when I would cold start it after sitting for a few days but now that’s all gone too. I wonder if it has to do with the oil quality. Congrats on your purchase I hope it serves you well and keeps you comfortable.
@@alexsystems2001 @adithmart may you suggest how often and what oil should be used. I just got a 2011 LS460L 195k Miles. Was told synthetic from a few older folks.
@@gravity5660 hello, thank you for your comment. I use what the manual suggest as far as oil. It is able to take 0-20 or 5-20. I use the 5-20 but the oil itself I have used Mobil 1 high milage and Royal Purple. I change the oil every 5,000 miles with a Lexus/Toyota OEM filter. Some of the newer Toyota/lexus call for 10,000 miles oil change intervals. I think that is just too long so I opt for the safer route of 5,000 miles.
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this video. I currently own a 2007 Lexus LS460 with 138,000 miles on it. I also own a 2008 LS600 with 78,000 miles on it. Both cars are one owners given to me and my wife from my late mother-in-law so they hold sentimental value. The 2007 LS460 needs a lot of work and I can’t see myself selling it. While others may not appreciate the expenses you’ve incurred with this vehicle, I do. Thank you again for this video.
Thank you for your comment! They certainly are nice cars when they are fully sorted, unfortunately the costly repairs are reflective of their initial price, if only the cost to repair them depreciated as much as the car depreciated haha. I hope you can get yours worked thru over time.
How is the 600 holding up? Looking at getting one myself and im aware of the issues shared between them and the 460. Engines on the 600 tend to be a lot less strained cause of the electric motor, but the suspension goes out faster from the added weight.
Thanks for taking the time and detailing your expenses for the ls460l. It’s clear that you’re proud and satisfied with the vehicle and it looks amazing inside and out. Congrats and you’re not alone in wanting your vehicle repaired and functioning the way it should. Great video and yes, I think it was worth it.
Thank you!
The grey interior with the smoke wood grain is the best combination imo
i really like the tan interior in combination with the matador red or sapphire blue exterior colors, especially when the windows arent tinted, Really makes it look like a super premium luxury car.
Thank you for going the extra mile and keeping everything original. Having that peace of mind is worth every penny
If original was all that good, it wouldn’t have failed in the first place.
I bought a 07 SWB $10k back at 2018 with 160k mile, had changed/fixed control arm, high pressure fuel leak, radiator and coilover. All cost around $6K, the car still running strong with 200K miles.
Nice 😊 I hope to cross the 200K miles very soon! Keep it on the road.
Did you buy aftermarket control arms or factory?
@@nicksgarage460 i bought factory since I will keep the car long time
From this video, I learned 3 things
1- I must buy the short wheel base LS460.
2- I must buy the most basic one with no air suspension or any fancy features on them.
3- YOU ARE A VERY RICH MAN !!!!
I’m sorry that’s what you took from the video lol I’m not sure what’s wrong with the long wheel base aside maybe from preference, I understand the air suspension issue due to cost but the other features I don’t understand and the “very rich man” part I don’t understand either. I’m still in for about basically an entry level Toyota Camry. So everyone who is able to buy a new Toyota Camry is a very rich man lol thank you for watching and thank you for commenting.
Basically just avoid the air suspension
@@alexsystems2001 Basically you paid cash for a Camry. Thats what he means.
Thank you this! Recently acquired an LS600 and going through this process as well. Hope you are enjoying it!
Thank you. It is the most wonderful car I think they ever made as far as satisfaction to drive. Getting it sorted took a few minutes though. I hope you enjoy your LS600.
What year and mileage is your Ls600? What had to be repaired?
@@Mabeylater293 mine is a 2008 bought it with 138000 miles from the original owner. Front struts were blown. You can follow the decision/rehab over on in8mud. But surprisingly trouble free so far. But I bought it to be a second vehicle.
LS460L 2007
I’ve owned this daily driver for around 7 years and haven’t had a single not a single breakdown. All regular maintenance done on time and still going strong. Sorry to hear about ur experience
Thank you, it hasn’t been all bad and I think I’ve managed to sort through some of the big stuff, it’s been expensive but I’m still hanging in there.
I'm getting some who is selling his for 7k. Only issue is brake abs booster system needs to change. Is it worth it?
Really appreciate this video. really appreciate your demeanor and take on it all. Yeah I thought some of it was excessive too but reading in the comments and with what you said at the end of the video comparing this to buying a entry level new Camry makes perfect sense. You got a FAR BETTER vehicle for the money. Long live your Lexus my friend, I'm sticking it out with you with my 2008 LS 460. Some people have little to no issues, some people have a lot. What's important is that you get it done right and that you enjoy your vehicle. This is a fantastic car and I am sure you will get many many miles and good experiences out of it as time progresses. You could've thrown a fit and thrown in the towel but you stuck it out like a G and the end game is excellence. Respect.
Lexus - Experience Amazing. That is on my car tag plateholder and it rings true every time I drive this beast of a land yacht 😌
Thank you! I agree that’s why I’m sticking it out. I’m now at 165,000 miles on it. It’s comfortable, it’s smooth, it’s quiet, it’s awesome. Congrats to you and your 2008! I figure if I can get 120,000 more miles out of it for less than the original owners paid, I got a good deal 😆
@@alexsystems2001 that is straight facts! 🤣 yeah I pick mine back up from Lexus on Friday and I’ll be happy to pay the bill knowing it was repaired properly this time & my warranty still paid a good chunk of change. You should’ve gotten one too! At any rate I’m excited to get my baby back & enjoy the satisfaction of the power of the V8 (esp in slapshift), the luxury comfort & so on! Car is a real treat!
We all love our LS’s. You’ve preserve yours the way you wanted. It’s like raising a kid…no one can tell you different. Nice car brother. Bought my 09 for 12K with 115K odometer, 5 years later she has 165K. Replaced leaking valve cover gaskets at dealer$$$$. Everything else seems to operate well.
Hint; when your cam phasers start to chatter after idling down on a cold start and they just more chattery with mileage, change the oil every 5K. My cams are quiet now once I changed oil on new lower mileage intervals.
Thanks, yeah on the shorter oil changes. When I bought the car, if it sat for a couple days I’d hear a clattering when starting it. I was under the impression it was timing chain slap waiting for the tensioners to tighten up. I heard there were issues with this engine that the tensioners would get gummed up with poor quality oil long oil change intervals. Either way, 5,000 miles oil change intervals and using good oil cleared that up. Now when I’ve gone out of town for a month and came back, no clatter at all when starting. Enjoy your car! Mine is almost at 190,000 miles now. I recently had to replace the rear subwoofer and One of these days I’m going to have to deal with the valley pan gasket. I lose about a quart of coolant each year. I recently had the rear air struts replaced too, it’s not the airbag that goes bad it’s the shock inside of it. Those get a little spendy too.
A complete project . . . “where eagles dare”! I tip my hat to you. It’s the adventure of getting there! ❤
I wish you showed us a before picture or video of every single piece you had replaced. Great video.
Thank you for your comment, that is a little harder compiling all the photos and videos and stuff and not being a full time you-tuber I don’t have that mindset to document things like that.
Great Video, but some of the big expenses were cosmetic and unnecessary in my opinion. Granted, having this car to its original glory is a must. These are great cars, I have a 2007 LS460 with 289K and it still running strong.
Thank you for your comment! I sort of agree with the use of “necessary” however when I bought this car it had 119,000 miles on it. I’ve got a rav4 that has 190,000 miles on it and the dash never melted, the, center console lid looks brand new, the drip rails aren’t peeling. I’m documenting getting an LS460 sorted and keeping it that way. I didn’t have the car repainted or the wheels refinished, I had items that should never have been “bad” in the first place fixed. Who wants to spend $4,000 on air suspension repairs on a car that has hand prints and dust glued to their sticky dash? If you are getting the day to day operational repairs of a car that is cosmetically in worse shape than a 190,000 mile rav4? I personally wouldn’t want to drive a car around that runs good but is otherwise in roughy shape, that sort of takes away desire to keep doing the mechanical repairs. I hope that makes sense.
@@alexsystems2001 I thought it was a bit excessive too but I fully understand what you are saying and indeed the end game resulted in a FAR better car than you would've gotten for the same amount of money on, like you suggested, a new Camry. Actually it costed less than a new Camry lol I like Camry's too I owned one for several years but they are not even comparable to Lexus when it comes to the prestige and so on, one of the only ways you really can compare them is for instance they both have fantastic motors.. Hey side note speaking of fantastic your wheels look just that, how did you go about getting them "refinished"??
Fire, mine has 75k on it. long wheel Base
edition
I got a 2007 with 268k
@@mychalking9921 expecting to reach 300K in two months!
These costly repairs are the main reason that I have a 08 ES 350. It's better on fuel, maintenance, insurance, taxes, and more of a city daily driver. This is a great video on how some people have money for automobile expenses. Get 200 to 400k in assets, and expenses like this are always minor.
The 08 es is the same car with the Toyota avalon, just more bells and whistles. The LS is a much more refined car, my uncle had a 07 LS and i loved driving one. I know i can afford it now at 6k, but i cant afford the maintenance and gas. I also drove a 07 lexus es, its a big difference in comfort and power.
Great detail=good. I have this same car (Executive package) and have also had my share of issues (control arms, brake actuator, leaking fuel pump gaskets, front air suspension). I am not mechanically inclined but desperation breeds innovation so like you I was able to source many of the parts myself and complete many of the repairs myself. CZcams and clublexus is a great source for ideas and instruction on repairs and sourcing parts. Many of the parts I got for roughly half price doing my own homework. It still wasn't cheap but the car still looks great and drives like a dream. I understand if I keep the car for an extended period of time (5 years so far) I will likely encounter more issues but thats the cost of car ownership.
I’m glad you are enjoying yours!
Lexus would have paid for all of the things you mentioned if you push them. Known defects that later got addressed in newer model years.
@@Mabeylater293 nope… tried it
I was in similar position as you few years ago. I bought used LS with 130k strictly for commuting in Bay Area for work. I bought OEM parts on electrical parts but high quality aftermarket on suspension/brakes. Changed oil every 3k and was religious about my car fluid services. My hack was I found a Toyota dealer with a Toyota master tech who did all my work. Save me thousands using Toyota labor rate vs Lexus dealer labor rates. Car gave me another 150k of life before I traded it in.
Holy Moly! Expensive is an understatement! I really wanted an 08 460 but couldn't afford it at the time. Ended up getting a 08 IS 250 instead. The car costed me 4900$ and I've roughly spent about 1800$ in maintenance in the last 2.5 years that I've owned it. Considering that your car and mine were released only a year apart, the maintenance costs are mind boggling to me! 😲
Thanks for the comment, yes, it is definitely a costly car to keep on the road. I’m not sure if I’d attribute all costs to maintenance, a good part of the cost was attributed to cosmetic stuff, the door panels, the dash, the center console lid, the two colored strips across the roof, the mirrors, the tint etc were a pretty large part of it. Which could have been less costly if I had gotten one without all those bits in need of refurbishment or just left them as is but I absolutely agree even with those crossed out, things like the air shocks and bushings and such have been quite a costly experience. These cars are known for more issues too, I’m sure at some point I’ll have the infamous “valley pan gasket leak” and there are eventually issues with the brake actuator and stereo amplifier etc. The LS also for some odd reason doesn’t have floating from calipers so over time when the brake rotors slightly start to warp, you feel that MUCH sooner than other cars and you feel the vibrations and so I’ve gone thru a couple sets of front rotors too. I’m glad you are enjoying your IS250! Thank you again for the comment!
I've purchased most of my vehicles from Longo. They are the best! Just picked up a 14' LS460 and 14' RX350. Both cars are in immaculate condition and the previous owners took excellent care of them. I'll be honest I'm not looking forward to sorting out the LS460 once problems start to arise.
@@POVIEWS one of the nicest things about owning this LS460 is once it’s fixed again, it’s a totally satisfying car to drive again. So putting money into it has been painful but I think it’s been worth it, I’m now at 189,000 miles and it’s still just as satisfying to own and drive every day.
I subscribed... 20, 000 in repairs..... hey it's better than a car note.
Thank you! You understand. If I’m broke one month, I don’t have to cough up the payment, I park it till I’m not broke and go at it again.
The air suspension components are pretty reasonably priced. If you got 80k miles out of them I would say that is a great use of money.
I have a 2008 lexus ls 460 changed control arms installed the custom tesla style radio. Car looks better inside than the 2013 to 2017 model. I have 245k and drove from chicago to new York with no problems.
Nice, I hope mine lasts that long!
How’s the Tesla infortainment working so far?
@@francislim6516 The phoenix tesla style radio has worked fine. I installed it around 2019 and it works just as great currently. I had to replace the amp with a aftermarket. Due to multiple replacement mark Levinson amps continuing to fail.
Hi , Thanks for update. In regards to the rear door window shade. i have the same issue. So you deleted the clip or replaced it ?
Thank you for your comment. I didn’t delete the clip, the clip is on the furthest back upper point of the door panel and clips the top of the door panel to the sun shade. There is a little metal clip that has teeth digging into the door panel and it slipped off and fell into the hole in the sun shade. That hole is into the track for that sun shade. So I used some needle nose pliers and retrieved the clip. The sun shade worked. The replacement door panel had the clip already on the panel, but I removed it, squashed it a little tighter and put it back on to make sure it stays on the door panel. So the clip is there, it’s just no longer fallen off in the track for the shade. I hope that makes sense.
You have the money so you had everything done at a dealership. I commend you on that. Most others in this comment section will probably question why you. It's been money taking an old car to the dealership but you wanted it done right? And you probably plan on putting another $200,000 miles on it. It's beautiful. I love those cars. I just don't know if I can afford to put that kind of money into one of those. Good job
Thanks for your comment. I hope to make it past the 200,000 mile mark I don’t know about an extra 200,000 miles haha. I really did want things done right and done right the first time. I went to an independent shop that sent me on my way with leaking valve cover gaskets and my spark plug tubes all filled with oil so it’s hard to trust an independent shop at least with a dealer if they screw up on something it’s an easier path of recourse. As for the expenses it’s been cheaper than buying a new one and because the depreciation has already taken place, I don’t worry as much when I take the car places, a Little Rock chip or bit of wear here and there doesn’t worry me as much, it’s nice just to drive it like an old worn out car. I just hit 180,000 miles today. I hope you get a car you want!
I have a 2008 Lexus LS 460 and I really believe that it is a hit and Miss when it comes to problems with the 07/08 Lexus issues. I have 180,000 miles and I am sure I’ll probably get 400+ as long as they allow me to drive it . I have had one issue and had it done and that was the seals on the fuel injection. It was a little pricey, but a heck of a lot cheaper than buying another car. I change the oil every 3000 miles and keep it clean all the time and will keep it until the wheels fall off.
That’s awesome! Did you buy it new? Did you experience the melty dash or valve spring issues? Keep enjoying.
every 3k miles for a non performance car is a bit dramatic.
Just purchased a 32,000 mile JDM 2007 Lexus LS 460 SWB in Starfire Pearl with every option (minus the Mark Levinson Sound System and Rear Seat Comfort Package) for $11,000 USD, a cost which includes ocean/land freight, customs, inspections, fluid changes, and new tires. Hoping to not put too much more money into the car so my fingers are crossed. At the moment, I'm most worried about the air suspension failing since it seems to be so common and an expensive fix; I'm thinking just swapping to coilsprings if it does go. The car itself is in absolute pristine condition inside and out, minus the slightly melted front door panels and dash. Thanks for the video. It is a bit worrying seeing how quickly things add up.
I hope your ownership experience goes well. I now have 170,000 miles on the car. Once I got everything sorted 50,000 miles has been fairly smooth sailing. So if you do run into hiccups I guess maybe you can find peace knowing that at least with the Lexus LS once you get it sorted you might be good for a while. Share how it went someday with a follow up! Thank you for your comment.
I have two ES 350s now. Had an SC400 for 10 years, bought in the 90s. A Lexus is a cherished posession. I usually have work done at the dealer, and some of them are not terribly expensive. But the LS460 is a true luxury car, and service is just expensive. And you probably could have spared yourself some of that expense, but, hey, it's a supercar for less than 30K. Can't do much better than that.
I'm sorry to hear the costly repair list you got stuck with paying, such matters are not pleasant or cheap and another bit of pain we could all do without whenever possible! When I looked for my used LS 460 I made a point of picking a 2WD (vs all wheel drive), a NON-hybrid model, and one that was not equipped with air suspension! Before I even started seriously shopping I spent time on the forums, the only true source of honest information, and when I discovered that aftermarket strut kits are sold for the LS ready-made, as an easy way to delete the air suspension system, I decided to avoid cars equipped with it altogether.
I bought a 2017 LS 460 in May 2023, for $36,500 that had 69,500 miles on it. I had an ATF change, not a flush, by a transmission shop for $250. I brought my own Lexus ATF for them to use (I didn't trust any non-Lexus shop to use the correct fluid). Still need to change the coolant, Jiffy lube said they'd do it but I have to let them use their own coolant, not mine, so nothing doing! But all in all it's a great ownership experience and best of all is the admiring looks I get from time to time, as well as the feeling of owning a truly well-made, durable and reliable car - a feeling I'd never get if I owned a Mercedes or BMW.
Bro if you love the car then its worth it in my opinion.. dont let anyone tell you different, plus some ppl dont have the money to even get an oil change so they hate and criticize those that can .. ignore them
Great video. Well worth it. How many miles on it when you bought it and where did you buy it? I just missed a 2006 Lexus LS430 with 38,000 miles for 10k. I still want one but worry about dumping too much money into it.
That seems like a good deal on that LS430. The only thing I’d make sure is if it had a clean inspection from a trusted mechanic. That low of miles the shocks could be leaking, seals and gaskets could be leaking. The LS had 120,000 miles on it when I got it and now, as of yesterday it has over 170,000 on it. I bought it used at a lexus dealership. I honestly don’t remember which one.
Stick with the LS430. Stay away from the air struts on any car.
Interesting, congratulations on getting that beast sorted out - A lexus over a camry.... come on! what is the mileage on the LS460? I have looked into a LS460 but ended up with a Jaguar - I think I fancy a LC500 perhaps in the future
The early years of the fourth generation LS wasn't good in terms of Lexus-reliability. The "facelift" generations (2013-2017) were MUCH better. But for the sake of argument, IF I could buy a new LS, it would be the last year LS400. That car has proven to be unbeatable.
Thank you for your comment! I agree for now, I think though the 2013-2017 seems more reliable to this point, I’m interested though as time passes how they will hold up. For example just a few days ago I got a TSB notice about the brake actuator in my 2017 LS. So that tells me the brake actuator issue that occurred in the 2007-2012 cars wasn’t resolved in the 2013-2017 cars, it makes me wonder what else will come up. I’m sure the valve spring issues and melty bits were hopefully actually resolved but I’m sure the soft bushings are still there and the valley pan gasket leaks are still going happen and other headaches that happen with the newer ones. It’s funny you mention the LS400, I had a friend that had a 1990 LS400, although they are quite old now and probably hard to get some parts for, I loved their LS400 it was so simple, and that unique gauge cluster and clean basic interior is just pure car.
What I got out of this was that there were mechanical issues that needed repair but there were lots of cosmetic things as well. Just bought a 2012 LS460 SWB (no air suspension) with under 100k miles so fingers crossed. The driver seat leather needs to be repaired soon - did you have that issue?
My 09 IS F has been trouble free since I acquired it in 2019. Brake pads, oil, filter(s) and tires. I don't use the dealership.
My 2007 LS 460 L with 90,000 miles just required 8 (eight) control arms. It was an $85,000 sticker price in 2007
Nice! Expensive cars have expensive repairs though. I hope it rides like a dream now.
@@RKG5A5 I don’t remember how much mine cost, I just had the lowers done on mine. If you are looking to DIY it and want OEM parts it can’t hurt to gooogle longo lexus parts. They usually have some percentage off, it’s free to check their price online. I hope that helps.
You did the right thing, Rockauto have some great parts. But O.E.M is definitely the way to go on a LS460. Taking it to the Lexus dealership, this vehicle is not a Toyota Corolla. It has a lot of advance technology inside of it, even for the year it was manufactured. It's a mechanic on youtube called the Car Wizard his nickname given to him from a gentleman that have his own CZcams channel called Hoovies Garage. The LS460 was inside of his garage he couldn't even work on it, it had to specifically be taken to a Lexus Dealership. The reason you had to spend so much on this Lexus LS460 because the previous owner neglected the vehicle. You are willing to spend more to get the job done right the first time, that is the best way to go about doing it.
That’s my thoughts exactly. If the first air strut lasted nearly 100,000 miles why wouldn’t the replacement? 😄 I also did bring the car to a local independent shop because the car wasn’t running right and I could smell burning oil. I had removed a stick coil and the well for the spark plug was full. So I drove it to this independent lexus specialist and they told me they don’t see any issues. So I don’t trust these small shops. I don’t trust the bigger ones but at least I have some recourse when you have a brand name behind them. I have someone I can complain to if things don’t go right. For example I’ve been bringing it to Longo Lexus and penske owns longo. I can complain to penske if I don’t get satisfaction from longo and if I don’t get satisfaction there I can take the complaint to Lexus.
The reason the Wizard couldn't work on it is because he didn't have the Lexus software to reset it, he said he could if he had the software but he worked on so few Lexus (Lexi) it wasn't worth the $2000 a year for the software subscription he'd have to pay. It wasn't highly technical it was just not having all the tools and this tool for specialized software that every car maker has and each one charges a pretty penny to use it by subscription.
@DM-sg3cj Sounds good. Thanks for this information about having the software to work on this specific Lexus. You have a lot of dishonest technicians who will cheat the customer instead of being honest with them. If you don't know your vehicle, especially if you have an expensive luxury car, people will just think they could get over. The auto technician that owns Omega in Kansas, he is probably one of the best mechanics I have seen on youtube. The Car Care Nut channel he works on a lot of Toyota vehicles lexus as well on CZcams.
@@MrT-nh6di Care Care nut and Wizard are pretty good, I use to work on cars (not for a living) but I'm old now and I don't want to unless it's something quick. So I have a young(er) mechanic right down the road that is honest, the town I'm in is very small and a bad rep gets around fast. The nearest Lexus dealer to me is over 130 miles away. so far my guy has been very good and very reasonable compared to the "big city" prices. I'm shocked by some of the price quotes I see on these channels for repairs and parts that should be a fraction of the cost ... I mean sure it's a Lexus but 99% of the parts you get say Toyota on them and at the end of the day a Lexus is nothing more than a Toyota with a prom dress on and they are no harder to work on than a Toyota.
Geez. Yep they can get that high. The drip rails did that to me. I peeled off the rest sanded the metal and primed and painted them to color match. $ 50. The mirrors have a repair kit for loose issue. It was just the screws holding them down was too small and they issues the correct ones cost like $ 5. All fixed after that and glad i do not have air struts.
Thank you for your comment! If you have the information for the kit of some sort for the mirrors if you could post it here that would be cool in case someone comes across this issue too. One of my mirrors didn’t fold at all so I replaced that one and decided to do the other too. I’m on the fence with the air struts, I just recently had my 2017 in for service and the rear spring struts are seeping already at 37,000 miles, if the original air struts lasted nearly 100,000 miles, that’s better than the non air struts, at this rate I’d have to replace the struts twice on my 2017 non air ride car. I don’t mean any disrespect by that, I just think anything with an expensive car can be a headache, I’m just glad it’s not a BMW. I had a 2016 BMW I had bought brand new and it was broken all the time in the short 10 months I owned it. This LS even with its little issues I’d trust it to go anywhere.
@@alexsystems2001 Bet i have is this..The TSB # is L-SB-0033-10.
@@johnnyglexus5730 thank you! I hope it helps some of the come across this!
Convert the car to coils or oem shocks. Saves thousands and peace of mind. Find a good mechanic that knows this car, you will save thousands. I have a 2013, other than the actuator failing which im still pissed at, the rest is solid so far. I guess you're an all-Dealer work guy. I commend you for that. I use akebono pads which is OEM with Centric premium rotors. My buddy lost out of his ZLZ so he had his interior custom stitched which was cheaper than OEM panels. The rear panel buttons are for the ultra luxury / executive package which is memory seating.
Thank you for your comment. I was honestly considering the coils and shocks but I figured the originals lasted the first 120,000 miles and 14 years that I’d just go like for like and cross my fingers they last. My 2017 has coils and shocks, it’s a superb ride so I’d imagine it would be a good ride on this one too with the conversion. I still haven’t played with those rear door buttons yet. My original door panels had those buttons but I never played with them before. I just never really have anyone in the back seat and when they are they just open the arm rest and manually adjust their seat. This car still has the original actuator so I’m preparing financially for that smack over my head 😅 I’m not looking forward to it, I’m also not looking forward to the possible valley pan leak in the future. I noticed over the now 45,000 miles I’ve put on the car that I have lost just a little bit of coolant, not much, but I’m pretty sure it’s leaking in the valley, just not enough to spend for the exploratory work yet. I’m glad you are happy with your car so far! Thank you again for the comment!
@@alexsystems2001 Im surprised you were able to go that long without a major valley leak. Even if the gaskets were installed right, they would leak a little bit. I believe lexus covered the actuator replacement for 2007-2011/2012 models up to a number of years. I believe your potential claim expired already. Anytime you find a TSB/LSB online, make sure you download it because Toyota scours the internet to try to delete them from public knowledge.
You can tell when your actuator is about to go out. Listen to a pump noise in front of the driver side under the hood, if you hear a pumping noise every 1-2 mins or less (often 20 seconds), chances are the actuator is leaking and the brake pump has to continually pump. Long term running of a failed actuator will cost the brake pump to fail as well as it has to continually run to pressurize the actuator. It's a very easy diagnostic that most mechanics miss.
i imported a 2002 toyota aristo from japan and ended up paying $10,000 CAD in repairs and to get it inspected and insured. the car was worth around that😭
What was the labor cost specific to the front air springs?
I honestly don’t remember and I am not in a spot at the moment to look it up.
Okay... it's not 'horrible' because you did a number of preference items and called it a 'repair'. Gotta separate those out. Those 600hl door panels... that's a preference item. So are those floor mats (which I also bought and I LOVE them). I also got some Maybach style headrest pillows off Amazon.
I just added up the expenses on my salvaged title '08 Lexus LS base model that I bought for $11,500 about 2.5 years ago... and it added up to about $15k. But it's a salvaged title car with a lot of deferred maintenance. So some of this was repair and some was deferred maintenance. When I separate it out, the deferered and current maintenance costs are about $10k. About $4,000 or so was actual repair: needed airbag ECM replaced, two rear seatbelts, and a few odds and ends over time. That's not part of the maintenance cost. That's just stuff that needed to be done because it wasn't taken care of before I bought it.
Thank you for your comment! I hope you are enjoying your car. It’s kind of funny that some folks don’t understand “fixing up” one of these. I think thought a complicated car and somewhat expensive to repair after having had a BMW for a bit these are “reliable” comparatively and the ride quality along with the amenities are amazing and satisfying. I hope you get many miles and smiles out of your LS460.
@@alexsystems2001 I'm enjoying the car, that's for sure! Lexus is certainly reliable, but reliability is a base-level concern. I've never been stranded. When I had lights on my dash, it was for the airbag (taken care of), missing TPMS sensors (taken care of), and no brake wear sensors (taken care of). But to help ensure the lifespan of the car and keep the driving experience elevated... it takes a bit of work and investment. For example, and you know this, you don't go with cheap tires. They'll wear out fast and they drive like a rock. I got some Control Contact Sport SRS Continentals last year... and this thing drives like a cloud! I finally got the transmission serviced a couple of weeks ago... and what a difference that makes!
So yes, they can be reliable for a minimum standard of transportation, but I want more out of my experience with it, so that takes some more resources.
Could be worse though. I could have a bunch of Mercedes or BMW electrical issues.
For the price of a new camry, I would buy a CPO lexus popular model SUV. Looks good, space,newer model year and warranty.
@@minhlu3518 I’ve sometimes thought about that too
Considering one of these rides but I think I will wait for now. Too much in the way of potential maintenance ...
That’s sort of understandable but they won’t get cheaper to repair over time, the ones that are out there right now will just need more work over time so if you have your heart set on one, I’d get the newest one needing the least amount of work.
I have 2010 AWD, converted to regular suspension from air suspension because one of my air shocks is leaking but that’s a mistake, I use the strutmasters complete kit but I am disappointed with the results, air suspension is much better then the regular suspension
I think I’d feel the same way. Hopefully you can go back? That’s been my worry about going aftermarket on some things. I figure the first set of air struts lasted 14 years, even if it’s $6,000 and I get another 14 years, that’s cheaper than a new Lexus LS. You have a beautiful car, I hope you get your hiccup sorted and are no longer disappointed.
I have a 2011 AWD short wheel base without the air suspension. I find the car suspension handles beautifully. It's like driving on a cloud. So, is the air suspension that much better?
I have a fully loaded and I mean fully loaded 2010 LS460. These cars are the most ridiculous, expensive money pits that Lexus has ever produced. Sticky dash, engine mounts, air suspension, trunk latch actuator and the list goes on and on. My Lexus looks extremely nice but I sent it to the grave (offsite garage) where it will sit.the cost isn’t worth it.
tires at the dealer... that seems very odd.
you could have spent about 25-50% less shopping around. It is a Toyota at the end of the day
You could have put 500,000 miles on your 2017 and not spent $30,000
Thank you again for your assumptions lol
Any updates? I’ve had mine from 150k to 190k now and done nothing but regular maintenance. Brakes starting to make some noise tho.
Have they done the interior stuff? 2007-2012 all were affected by the interior stuff, all had bushing issues 2007-2017, if you haven’t done anything but basic maintenance and the original owner didn’t have any of that done I’m impressed.
@@alexsystems2001 interior had a recall all the way through 2020, that was done at a dealership for free. Other then that just regular maintenance, controls where done at 100k havent been an issue.
@@Stonedanteater that is awesome you didn’t have to deal with that stuff 😅 the warranty for my interior stuff I think was for 10 years from initial date of service or something so mine ran out in 2017.
@@alexsystems2001 yessir! The previous owner took awesome car of it though. He Even had the 200 point inspection and everything that needed to be done at 100k through Lexus. Got it with right Under 150k for 7 grand
2007 wasn't that good i had one the Lexus dealer himself told me to get rid of it and get a 2009 and up
@@rockflock4698 I dunno if a 2009 is much better, the melty interior bits affected 2007-2012. As for the 2007 being not good. I’m at 190,000 miles, it was a $100,000 car when new and nothing lasts forever, so repairs are gonna be expensive. I think it’s doing remarkably well for 190,000 miles
I have a 2007 n a 2013 best cars I have ever had
I agree, that’s why I was willing to put in the money to make it nice, it was good “base” like the paint was good and the engine had regular oil changes and all the electronical stuff worked so it wasn’t the worst starting point. You sound like me with my 2017 and 2007. 😄 enjoy! It’s a last of its kind. I have gotten the LS500 as a loan car a few times and they aren’t anything like this.
@@alexsystems2001 oh I actually want a LS 500
@@streetstyle9200 well if that’s what you like do it! haha it’s just not quite the land yacht these things are. I’m pretty tall and the new LS500 doesn’t have the headroom, the air suspension seemed a little harder, the rear seat legroom felt like it was less than the ES loan cars I’ve gotten, things like the center console were as hard as a rock, the loan car had the air suspension and mark levinson and the bass just doesn’t hit as hard either however to it’s credit the road noise was actually quieter which was good and the fuel economy was a little bit better, it also got up and went a little peppier than these. I’m just a fan of the old soft plushness and large everything of the old ones. If you do get one, check back in and tell me how you think it compares. I’d like to hear a differing opinion.
The man here is dressed to go to the beach.
lol yes… I have to wear long pants and a plain work shirt every day to my regular job along with steel toed boots. So every chance I get I try to be as comfortable as possible. I was visiting Colorado about a month ago… it was snowing… I had shorts and a Hawaiian shirt on.
@@alexsystems2001 That's what I meant. Men nowadays have no idea how to dress properly. Here you are as wise as an owl when it comes to choosing a car, with all the right ideas. But when it comes to your attire, you're/we're just not interested. We seem to have given up on good taste in preference to perceived comfort. Good clothes are never uncomfortable. Comfort being synonymous with casual dressing is just a perception created by the fashion industry. Driving a Lexus suits a well dressed man in a smart outfit.
Mate they saw you coming its a 15-year-old car .
Thank you for your comment. I have no idea what that means but thank you just the same.
Nah, he has the money, God Bless him! He has a great car now that will last him years to come!
Did they have German engineers on the team who designed this car?
They must have 😄
It ain’t reliable. I owned one in 2009 AWD SWB and I can list countless problems.
I'm pretty sure they do - I've been looking at used LS 460/500's. And in the sales pages for the cars some show a manufacturer's door plate that clearly says "GERMANY". IDK the whole car, just the drivetrain, only the body, or what part but one things certain, Lexus does or at least used to, have the LS's made in Germany.
Super luxury car, that was expensive when new, so you have a car that's worth every penny, to make perfect and enjoy
Thank you, that’s what I think, I have now put 60,000 miles on it in total. It’s wonderful!
How much MPG do you get on your 2007?
It depends. On the last road trip I took it on I averaged about 24 MPG on my commute I get around 22 MPG and if it is around town city driving I get about 19 MPG. The best MPG I have gotten on one tank has been about 26 MPG.
@@alexsystems2001Thanks. I dwindled down an offer to $9700 for a 2007 Lexus LS 460. 140K miles. But very well-maintained. Hardly any scratches at all. Good deal? Drives very smooth. I assume these cars won't depreciate that much more in value going in forward.
@@alexsystems2001Thanks. I saw some other guy in a different video saying they got 16/17MPG on average on a 2007 or 2007 model. Seems excessively low. I'm heard others touching 30 MPG on the highway. But 22/23/24 MPG combined seems around average?
@@bluemagic5829 I remember speaking to a GS owner, and he claimed he was getting 16 town, barely into the 20's highway … or as we call it in the UK, motorway.
Bell Lexus in Az has better prices online.
I looked up part number 48010-50153 it’s an air strut… Longo Lexus is $1,546.92 and Bell Lexus is $1,559.60. Bell is $12.68 more than Longo. Thank you for your suggestion though.
So….How much did you pay for the car?
Why?
Nevermind
Add the Tesla screen only thing you missing right about now
I dunno what you are talking about but thank you for your comment!
It’s the infotainment system … type ls460 Tesla screen you’ll see it pop up
@@blazer9642 oh, I appreciate your suggestion but the less tech the better for me.
wow, im afraid to buy one now
Don’t be afraid lol
dont do it, this car is a turd! i used to be a harcore lexus fan, i had 2 regular IS's, 2 GS300's, a GS450h and a GS430 and currently an ISF and a LS460. never had any issues with any of those except the LS460. Air suspension broke, its sitting on coils now, the transmission is slowly going out, brake actuator, seized brake calipers, control arms, the active cruise control doesnt work at the moment and just today my water pump started making noises. Go for an older LS430 or 400, they would be more reliable than a 460 with half the miles and dont have a melting interior
If you can work on it yourself, don't be afraid
@@bdmr_isf if you don’t mind me asking, why are your symptoms of the transmission slowly going out? I had a bump to my transmission when I got mine and one TCM update later it fixed it.
@@alexsystems2001 harsh shifts from first to third gear and when its fully warmed up i get that torque converter shudder at low rpm when driving slowly uphill. didnt try the Transmission update yet, but doubt it will fix it. i already did 2 oil+filter changes (dropped the AT pan).
You could of bought a 2015 LS 460 for 25,000 from carmax
You are absolutely correct, but what repairs would that car need? I saw a 2013 for cheap from a Lexus dealer but I started looking into the service history and it went back a zillion times for electrical issues. You really don’t know what can of worms you are opening with any car. At this stage my car is “caught up” and from here going forward i take care of issues that arise.
@@RKG5A5 I agree, lexus although a little less needy than the European counterparts they are all still needy. My 2017 with 37,000 miles on it, I was out washing it last weekend and I was cleaning the wheels… the shocks are leaking 😅 I’ve never had a car with less than 100,000 miles have leaky shocks.
About as practical as a Lear jet.
I agree 😆
This car ain’t reliable. I had one and got rid of it lol. Transmission gave out around 154k and I didn’t wanna put more money into it anymore. So many problems .
Well, I maybe I think of reliable on subjective grounds lol I had a 2016 BMW I bought brand new, I got rid of it around the 10,000 mile mark after having only had it for 10 months. So much stuff broke… this on the other hand, the original owners for the most part neglected it, made it to 120,000 miles, I took care of all the stuff they put off and now I’m at 170,000 miles and have only had regular services for the last 50,000 miles. So from my headache I had with a BMW this car is a wonderfully reliable thing. It’s certainly not as cheap to keep on the road as a Toyota Camry or something of that nature but I also think it’s not as bad as some of its European counterparts. I also think other brands some that have switched to CVT’s and such, Nissan for example have transmission failures at the 60-80,000 mile mark, Subarus for a long time had head gasket failures, Toyota Camrys had head bolt failures and piston ring failures etc so I think it’s a roll of the dice for long term reliability. I dunno.
@@alexsystems2001 I agree., Well said.
"Transmission gave out around 154k"
I've only owned one small Toyota, but what I realised was my BMW, Audi, Ford, Vauxhall, Alfa, Merc, VW driving colleagues were having more problems at 50-60k miles, than I was at 175k miles!
And don't get me started on my brother's Porsche. I told him not to buy one, but older brothers never listens to wiser, younger brothers, do they!
Your accumlator will be going out soon 3500 for the dealer
Wow, is your glass half empty too? 😄 I think I have 167,000 miles on it now, some people had the brake issue at 40,000 miles some people never had it. Just like with the valve spring replacement, some people needed new heads too and some didn’t. So I’ll worry about that when I gotta worry about it.
Why buy a car so old?
Why comment on a 3 month old video?
Because… it’s what I wanted.
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LOL whatever that means
You need to get some tools. Alot of these issues could have been done in your own garage. It's all good...not hating.
That’s kind of an assumption lol some people do bring their car to the dealer or mechanics not for a lack of tools. For me it’s a mixture of things between lack of time, lack of desire and lack of wanting to fuss with the stuff and not having a warranty on my own repairs. Heck when I replaced my door panels I had a plastic clip break on one of the window switches, fortunately I found a good used one online but that just makes the job cost more money, it makes the job take longer and it’s a pain. For example when I bring it to the dealer like I did when I just had the lower control arms done, they accidentally gouged a grease boot on the steering knuckle. They put a whole new part in free of charge. I didn’t have to eat that. Or when they put the dash in, they forgot to hook up a tweeter, I took it back and they reconnected the tweeter. I like that I just don’t have to deal with it. If you follow my channel, I remodeled my whole master bathroom, I’m capable, but I work for a living and it’s not working on cars haha there are people that do that for a living and I’ll let them do that. I hope that makes sense. It has nothing to do with a lack of tools or even a lack of knowing how to do something, even skilled mechanics screw something up from time to time. It’s just I don’t want to and I am getting a fair deal.
I do understand. I have 5 kids and the provider $ for the family. Time is not on my side. Jack of all trade master of none here. I have been interested in getting a LS460. I have a LX450. Totally different animal. Anyway, you covered about all of the issues those cars have. I’m not shy about changing struts or control arms. I need to save as much money as I can.
@@aaronhuskey8581 why isn't your wife working?