Wifi 7 Is Absolutely Insane! - TP-Link Deco BE85 Mesh Review
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Wifi 7 is even faster than I imagined! In this video we take a look at the TP-Link Deco BE85 Whole Home Wifi router to perform a Wifi 7 Speed test using the One Plus 11 5G which is equipped with Wifi 7.
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0:00 Introduction
0:17 What is Wifi 7?
0:59 TP-Link Innovation
1:21 Deco BE85 Router
3:18 Pulseway
4:28 Router Speed Tests
7:39 Mesh Speed Test
8:35 Results and other tests
8:04 Pricing
9:42 Final Thoughts
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There are a lot of comments saying this kind of speed is useless. This is not true. Yes, most people will not benefit from these crazy speeds on the majority of the devices in their home. However, there are 2 major benefits from a system like the one in the video:
1. You can maintain fast speeds from the satellite units in a whole home system. The biggest downside to whole home (mesh) wifi is that the satellite units don’t offer speeds nearly as fast as the main access point so they needed to be wired together for the best experience. Now with wifi 7 you can keep them all wireless and still get great speeds from the satellite units even on your older wifi devices.
2. The other benefit is a super fast connection to other internal network devices such as a NAS or another computer. You may not benefit from these crazy fast speeds to the internet since your internet plan is likely nowhere near this fast but you can still benefit from this on your internal network. Most people don’t have a NAS in their home but this is a big benefit for power users such as video editors, content creators, or IT Pros.
TLDR: The average person doesn’t need this kind of performance but it’s beginning to blur the lines between wired and wireless which is beneficial for power users and IT Pros.
**Throughput isn’t as important as latency when it comes to gaming so if you’re a gamer you’re still better off with a wired connection.
You should pin this comment fyi.
I actually hit pin yesterday when I posted it but for some reason it didn’t work. Thanks!
It's not just about speed, but also about latency, number of connected devices, range and reliability/resistance to interference. All of those improve significantly. And as it is almost as fast as most SSDs, it becomes a viable option to store and use files from a NAS as if they were local to your device.
I'd be interested in energy consumption of those, as running 3 of those 24/7 may just get really expensive in europe.
@@Sil3nC4it’s only matters when you have fast internet
I ain't going to lie I tried Wi-Fi6E separate modem and router through a stable cable connection and I can tell you it was the most unstable connection that I ever had. Tried it for a week and a half and went back to Wi-Fi 6.. The distance was very poor the the ability to stay connected was very poor. I'm not going to sit here and say that it's useless because it's not. But most residential internet speed is a gigabyte. Least that's what mine is And that's all I see you around. But I think wifi-6 is more than enough for residential purposes... We can't even get streaming platforms to up bitrates and download speeds for games top out at maybe 500Mbps and TV ethernet ports are still GB connections.. so again for residential it might be Overkill
Anyone here just cry at the old days of trying to watching umm....those videos 😮 on 56k .....being 16 in 1999 was terrible. You kids are so lucky. Great video CM
Lmao ughhh. I remember trying to look at photos and it would load like 10% of the picture at a time.. Ahhh 😳😨..
Also I remember downloads for games or songs that would say months to YEARS for estimated completion 😢
trying to load a 144p flash animation and then you get a call and the internet dies. ya, i dont miss it.
I feel ancient on 5, but my phone is the only thing I have that can even use 6.
Yea if your not paying for 500 or 1gb internet 5 will be just fine.
@@rom116kjvthis. You just gotta play your hand
@@rom116kjvtbh wifi 5 or ac can handle a 1gb when you go over that where 6 comes into play but I don't see how anyone needs more than 300
@@rom116kjvI pay for 1500 down and get it all with wifi 5
I have quite a lot of WiFi 6 devices now, PC, Laptop, phone, PS5... I think I will stay on WiFi 6 for a couple more years until wifi7 is affordable.
Subbed!! The way you explain tech makes me excited and eager to get my hands on one of them!!
Been waiting on this video. Great content. I’ll probably get the BE95 two pack.
Great review! - Thanks!
It's getting harder to keep up with all the new technologies Chris! - Cheers!
Chris, you mad man :) I'm sitting thinking I should upgrade to WiFi 6e and here you bust out a WiFi 7...
Great review! I never thought I would see a $1500 price tag for a wireless system lol! Crazy!
I have been in IT for 23 years and doing Home Theater for 30 years (I saw you in the sponsor spot). I think I need to subscribe.
TP-Link makes really good hardware, but one issue is their inconsistent firmware update track record, where some models, especially high end ones, will quickly lose support if they do not sell well. For example, their AD7200 routers only got around 9 months of support before the stopped firmware updates. Many others in various segments from mid range to high end, would lose support within around 15 months.
I didn’t finish the video because I hate it when people put sponsored before they actually talk about the video title says
@@charleswoods4830 Pretty much all major youtubers include a short sponsor spot near the beginning of the video.
@@charleswoods4830 Just skip the sponsor part if it is a product you are not interested in. That is what everyone else does.
No they don’t. Their wifi adapters are terrible!
@@Leo-yn5fx Wifi adapters in general are terrible. Name one brand you like.
This is my first non projector video from you nice 👍
I learned a lot from this and felt informed enough to buy. Thanks!
I am happy to sub, much love brother
I have the TP-link be900 , another Wi-Fi 7 router. It is amazing, I used to have a gaming router from asus that dropped connections and the bandwidth was glitchy. With this router, all speeds are consistent and stable throughout the house.
I switched from the BE800 to the BE85, as the range was very mediocre. Great when near the router, but not great further away.
So impressively knowledgeable!! I really like your reviews.
I have the TP Link Deco Wifi 5 three pack system that looks similar to this one just slightly smaller. Ive never been happier or more impressed with a router system...... I've been pushing friends and family to switch to seamless mesh for their homes.....the ease of setup, use and seamless transitions between access points is unprecedented.
TP link, in my opinion has the greatest home network systems!!!!
What Western brands do you recommend or TP-Link specifically, Chinese specifically?
Excellent video as always
Nice video, I can see so many benefits. Maybe not so much for a home but in businesses and organisations there is definitely a big opportunity.
1. For point to point connections, eg if you need to link nearby buildings at gb speed without necessarily having to run or lease fibre connections
2. Improvised density, especially if you are responsible for a laptop fleet in an organisation or school or something similar, you can have intent in your upgrades and ensure wifi 7 is included in the config. Within 3-5years you will have your entire fleet upgraded.
3. Planning starts early, it’s not about today or tomorrow, but you are planning the future ; you would definitely consider it especially if you are due for a wifi refresh.
Biggest win is also in crowded areas like stadiums, auditoriums, stations, where there are lots and lots of devices from laptops to phones
Since I got my first Deco M5 mesh wifi system some years ago after having trouble with Wi-FI in my previous house, I've consistently been happy with it, but even with very consistent updates, they're getting long in the tooth for my needs (And wants if I'm being honest) so even thought these are currently out of my price range, I'm almost 100% certain that these will be the replacement for those as their specs look awesome!
Deco M5 was my first mesh as an experiment. Had it for a few years and loved it. Upgraded to 6e mesh and when the prices drop on wifi 7 will jump on them. Love this brand because it’s a bargain for many people only buying when on sale. Never early adopt tp link “here first “ products.
Great review! - Thanks!
MLO is the real deal here, not only no longer dealing with differrent bands and SSIDs(even with stuff like bandsteering its still painful), but also utilizing them all at the same time. I think wired backhaul will always stay as superior(especially in Europe since 6GHz is limited to 500MHz, not full 6.0-6.9GHz range is allowed yet) you can't fit both main 6G stream and 6GHz backhaul into the band both in 320MHz width. Also at the end its still wifi.
I was dissapointed this was not covered here...I care less about speed and more about reliable connectivity which MLO will help provide.
@@VanceRefrigeratn in my opinion that's pretty hard to cover because you gotta test with bunch of devices simultaneously and with ton of different use cases
@@pcislocked very fair point! not a super huge pool of choices at the moment.
Awesome your channel just popped up and I subscribed
This Tp link device is blazingly fast for it have spark a hype feeling in me to go and get one. And what's more exciting is that it have a faster version for business. It's intriguing to hear the merging of the wifi frequencies in this device.
I have 1 Wi-fi 7 BE10000 as my main hooked up with 3 decco Wi-fi 6e mesh satellite mesh routers, all connected to the newest NightHawk CM3000! Speeds are crazy fast, and my Playstation Portal has ZERO lag regardless of the game I'm playing! Best set up I ever had!!!!! I have Spectrum 1 gigabyte plan reaching 1gbps on tests with all 3 of my wi-fi channels!
Very interesting. Thanks.
great video! thank you for sharing! that is pretty impressive!
Great review 🙏
Will keep this device in mind when I upgrad my network.
I love my Deco Mesh (not the Tri frequency one in your vid)!
The best thing about it is that it has seamless transition from one station to another, meaning that if you are watching a video, there are no interruptions as I walk around the house!
This is so cool. But CAUTION before you run out and buy this note that at the time of writing this comment the Wi-Fi 7 spec has yet to be officially released. Meaning that this device may or may not fully comply with the Wi-Fi 7 specifications. It has not been officially ratified, and there may not be updated to be officially supported by Wi-Fi seven devices which can lead issues.
Thanks Chris. 👍🏼
Great video , thanks man.
That’s stunning performance, especially given the router and phone are both very early first gen products.
I’m a Plume believer, but seeing this makes me eager for their version of WiFi 7 when it finally comes. Great video!
TP-Link is definitely pretty good. I am running an AX1500 Wifi6 router with a T-mobile gateway and the speed through out our house is awesome. Definitely not as fast as wifi 7 but it does get the job done without any signal attenuation.
TP-Link makes some awesome Network gear. Great review. WiFi 7 ... wow
Very awesome soon as our netgear router goes we might upgrade to this sucker. :)
Nice video!
Insane Speeds and Insane Price, TPLink I will come back after 3 years 😂. Thanks Chris for the detailed review.
Great video. Thanks for the details. Now that Netgear has released their version, can you do something similar comparing the Deco and the Orbi wifi 7 systems?
Great Content
Great review! Will be anxiously awaiting the wifi7 productline price drops! Been running the Deco X90 for few years, no issues, great triband thruput, no deadzones, seamless roaming. TP-Link is great at bleeding edge consumer grade mkt disruption 🙌💯🔥! The only cons are the phone app only based router mgmt and the necessary subscription for full parental controls.. Remember we Always Say NO to subscription based add ons, ppl.. when will they learn..
Some of their models have free tp-link homeshield standard version and require subscription for homeshield pro. Other devices like x60, x20 or m9/m5 have Homecare which was supposed to be free for the first months but turned out to be free forever (at least for the m5, and I think for the x60 too). If you set an m5 as your main deco, it will load Homecare instead of the homeshield standard. Two drawbacks of using one older deco as main, is that it has slower cpu and less memory, so it can struggle in an overcrowded network. The second drawback is that if you add (let’s say) one m5 on your deco network, even if it’s not set as a main deco, some features get hidden from the menu, like the WPA3, because even though it is supported on the newer decos, it wouldn’t work on the m5, so it’s disabled altogether.
price drops will take at least 5 years at this current pace
I love Deco, this mesh network fixed all my dead spots in my 2 story house
Looks nice; however as you said there are no WiFi 7 clients- and won’t be any until next year. Problems with 6ghz band is that it doesn’t penetrate walls as well or do distance well (higher frequency) - the only reason this works decently currently is that you probably have no contention. Most people aren’t using the 6ghz band yet which helps. I assume the reason this is working decently is because it is using all 3 (2.4,5,and 6) bands. This will not work as well in apartments, hotels, coffee shops, etc. Where it will work well is in single family homes.
You are correct that I’m likely getting good distance because it’s not fighting with other signals. I wasn’t actually using MLO though so all the tests were with it turned off. I actually got slower speeds with MLO on. I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen from 6ghz though. Even from Wifi 6E the distance was impressive considering it’s high bandwidth.
There are multiple Wi-Fi 7 clients. Multiple laptops, Android phones, etc. It's just not certified and won't be until at least late 2024 to early 2025. 6 GHz is what provides those peak speeds you saw...
@@ikjadoon What clients? From what I know all QCA chipsets are still in development. Same with Intel. Apple just now has 6e in its lineup and has not announced anything in wifi7 at all. Samsung has a phone that will be upgradable with firmware to Wi-Fi7. Really would like to know which clients you refer to.
Nice review. The only thing I was hoping to see, was a speed test on a device wired to the 2nd access point. On my current 6e network, my 6e capable PC is only getting around 300mbps down, using Wifi, and 370mbps while plugged into the extender. So if I can get closer to the 1.5gbps I'm paying for, then I'll be happy. But at $1700 CA for just the 2 pack, I want to do as much research as possible, before I shell out the money.
This is wild. I have 5Gbps at home and only have Eero routers for Wi-Fi. Been trying to find something to take advantage of it so good to see the initial tests panning out. Maybe in the next year or so we can see cheaper versions and more tech using w7
Hlo bro!
Which country are you from,
And what's the price for 5gbps plan?
Waiting for the outdoor version :)
Tech is advancing so fast. I just upgraded to WiFi6 last year since I’ve been having more WiFi6 devices (iPhone 14 Pro Max, PS5, and AM5 Motherboard) and it’s already old. I honestly don’t see myself upgrading in like 5 years or so.
Thanks for the info Chris great video!👍🏽 I currently have AT&T fiber 1 Gbps but looking to have optimal connectivity throughout my house due to it being 2 story. Should I invest in this or the Deco XE200?
This is incredible.
Hey Chris much respect you are a fellow jack of all trades
Impressive! SHould have grabbed the TP-Link!
I went to the top of the list and bought the Netgear Orbi Wifi7. Impressed with the speeds (10Gbps + 2.5Gbps ethernet on each sat) but limited Admin features that the Tp-Link appears to have as standard...
That's amazing!! Not sure how many folks would buy it at that price point...would be great for AI and CAD professionals working remotely.
Now I'm here in my neighbor's panic room and I'm really interested to see how the router works from here.
your wifi outside is better than my network connected through ethernet
I own the model and its insane speeds, software is great also very happy with this model.
I have the Deco X60's and they are setup with hardwire backhaul. One in the basement, one in the living room, and one upstairs in my office. With direct line of sight, actually up a slight hill, about 100 yards away, i'm still at 4mbps download and upload. And it quickly increases at I walk closer to my house. Cell signal is almost non-existent in my neighborhood, so this helps a lot while out walking my dog. Plus i've helped neighbors buy and setup these in their homes too, so i'm almost always connected, since they let me on their guest networks! lol $179 at Costco, when on sale!!!
ohh my goodness, i literally just heard about wifi7 a few days ago... those speeds are insane... i'm not gonna mess with wifi7 yet... i'm at least 2-3 years away from doing anything with wifi7... but, it does look impressive...
I'm just getting into the IT field I'm going for my CCNA then my CCNP. And just within the last six months the industry has changed so much. Very soon they'll have 100gbps for consumers...It's crazy but I love it.
Just so you know, having those certifications is very low level. And they say a degree doesn't matter, it does. Having a good degree, the difficult certifications coupled with experience is a win-win. Even then, making high 6 figures in IT these days is very difficult.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I’m still on 5 with my Orbi mesh.
What Wi-Fi6 mesh system do you recommend?
Awesome video. food for though.
This is the stuff dreams are made of!
Impressive 😅
I don't really know if it is realistically doable due to possible overheads but maybe you could speed test a gen4 nvme enclosure over the usb 3.0 using ftp?
All this power to stream a low bit rate version of terminator 2 in 4K.
🤣🤣🤣
Damn…I knew I should have waited. I bought a Wifi 6E system for $1500 less than a year ago. I would have preferred this.
All these WAP refreshes make it easy to find good used deals on ebay and the like.
Lolz the speeds hes getting outside the house in the drive way is what I end up getting sitting in the same room with my accesspoint! 🤣🤣
Some phones are Wifi 7 - ready and will receive an update to enable it. Like the Xiaomi 13 line.
I was thinking about reviewing a Wi-Fi 7 extender I am on FiOS currently using their equipment. One of my videos on my tech channel did really well with testing routers
I've had my eye on this system for a while, but I elected to get their 6E system for now since it'll be a whole before I have any BE clients. My municipal fiber service offers up to 2 Gbit but I need to upgrade the rest of my network.
I know this is not related, but I have to say it.
This is the type of man that makes me forget about color. I wish the majority of black youth had this man's mindset. Look at the state of this country. I'm not black (not white either), but it pains to see the majority of black people painted in a certain light when my personal experiences have taught me to know this isn't true. If mindset could shift, color would disappear (on both sides). It's a shame that I'm so used to the blind ignorant anger the black miseducated youth (under 30) so commonly making a public spectacle with their behavior that seeing this man had to bring this to mind. Kudos. Thank you for not being another statistic.
And yes, wifi 7 seems exciting. Technology is moving faster and faster. One day maybe everything will be equivalent to the speed of light (just joking). But I can dream.
Very weird comment and bizarre that your mind went there on a video review about a wireless mesh system.
@@jroe25yt8 I totally agree. I don't know why that thought came into my head. But take it as a compliment. You made an impression on me. I don't respect ghetto, inarticulate, uneducated and ignorant people of any kind. I see them as a waste of a potentially good life. And you struck me as the opposite. The guy who is super smart, chill, friendly and would have no problem going to get a beer with. You just happen to be black. You don't make it your personification. Your identity. You don't speak slang or with an inflection in your voice. And I love that about you. You're just yourself. Hope you understand. If more black youth weren't pressured to follow what they is their culture that they're supposed to follow, we wouldn't have so much country turmoil and division.
Edit: you are great example period for youth, but even better for the kids who feel they can only relate to a black person. I can relate to all, but I also understand why some can't.
I just got the be95 and so it's incredible. I wish i had a wifi7 device to properly test it . Waiting to get 10 gig internet in couple months.....How is the tp-link waps work for you?
Amazing
Greetings. Thanks for the video - really enjoyed it. May I ask what software you used for the animations?
OpenspeedTest
@ChrisMajestic Apologies. I was asking about the computer animation displayed within the What is Wi-Fi 7 segment of the video. What service/software did you use?
What kind of residential internet plan can deliver modem speeds this high? Sign me up! Would the BE95 kit be giving even faster speeds? Fantastic review
I definitely need this router for my 5mbps internet connection 👀
Omg this is a great video. Thanks!!
Just a quick question - I've always used the highest standalone router model like Nighthawk from Netgear. If you were to test out the speed in a close proximity (same room like 10ft away) using the highest standalone router model from any brand, would you get the same speed like 3500 download and 3100 upload?
So you are saying I need to replace my dial up 14.4K modem? 😂😂😂
Wi-Fi 7 is interesting, I prefer ceiling mount APs. Great review
Losing weight I see. 👀 Looking good bro. Might have to change your moniker to Chris Muscle 💪🏾
🤣🤣🤣 I laughed entirely too hard at this. Thanks
As always, great video! I'm in desperate need of a Wi-Fi upgrade. I was looking at TP-Link XE75 pro, but strongly considering the Omada network. Could you share any insights or make a video about Omada? I'd love to know more about performance, installation, cost/benefit analysis from your perspective! Thank you!
Interesting for the future when we have more devices that support Wi-Fi 7.
New Wi-Fi every year 😮
I’m at a Gig with AT&T and they offer 5Gig and I have an Eero Pro 6E.
Would love to test out the highest end systems.
OMG we finally get rid of cables !!
Whose your ISP? And what plan are you on? Also nice video! New subscriber here!
This video and testing has nothing to do with his ISP.
Technology of Wifi 7 has been out for a while. I was going to skip wifi 6e but I got a good deal. I will update wifi 7 when it comes out
Very nice review, but you should consider using different devices to do a speed test like an Ipad, laptop and phone that's not Wifi 7 ready. That way most people will get an idea of speeds they may encounter. i get you want to test the Wifi 7 capabilities, but it's always nice to have a sort of real world scenario that most people would have at the moment. Oh and you should have really talked a bit about the price, that alone is going to prohibit most people as they won't want to spend $1600.
Great review! Oh bleeding edge sounds silly to my ears, MKBHD says it and I always think "that's not a thing man"
Watching this video with 30 mbps 😢 your speed is crazyyyy!
I'm soooo jealous of you guys across the pond. 😢
This is nuts.
Glad I stayed away from a WiFi6e mesh. I've been after a real world test of WiFi7, thanks for doing it! I think I can finally say good bye to the Ethernet I put into my house as a kid in 2001!
7 :07 rush hour traffic .....
Literally an empty road behind him 😂😂😂😂
Dude thanks for the video! 🙏I have a question, anyone have a Wifi7 device?
Good video. Does Pulseway use their own tools or use third party tools?
Hope to see some Asus wifi 7 gaming router reviews
and a subtle 7 on the body of the 3 base units
This is wild. Are you on a fiber network until your wifi router? Also what level plan do you have? I’ve made a bunch of upgrades to my own system but for the most part everything is wired with CAT8 cables. I have have to use cox and I have their router modem but I’m thinking I need to get a different router modem entirely now.
It makes sense to add an SFP+ port as a lot of 10Gbe equipment (router/switching) will have SFP+ also, given cost and heat dissipation of 10Gbe-T
Yes. Heat is a problem. When using a SFP+ module you could hear the internal fan kick on
@@ChrisMajestic and 10gbaset is even worse
it's really good to have if you're thinking about running a wire from one mesh to another in separate buildings, because of grounding issues.
@@Layarion although in that scenario very likely that would be an uplink between two switches and the the AP connected to the nearest switch
I’m curious, would it be possible to use the sfp + connection as the wired back haul between the two devices?