The Lenovo Legion GO With An RTX 4090 Is Insane! Docked Mode Power
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In this video We Turn the Lenovo Legion Go Handheld into a Desktop PC! The Lenovo Legion Go handheld is a great way to game on the go, but it can also be used as a desktop PC. With a little bit of tinkering, you can connect an external GPU to your Legion Go and get desktop-class performance.
In this video, I show you how to connect an RTX 4090 and RX 7600XT to your Legion Go and use it in desktop mode. This will allow you to play the latest games at the highest settings and even do some video editing or 3D rendering.
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00:00 Introduction
00:18 Retail Legion Go Unboxing
00:52 Video Sponsor Ad Spot
01:56 Overview
02:41 Legion Go Docked Mode iGPU Testing
05:01 Legion Go GPD G1 RX 7600M XT eGPU Testing
07:08 Legion Go RTX 4090 Graphics Card Testing - Hry
Every time I see an eGPU setup I think it looks sort of cool. Then you see the prices on the eGPU is about the same or more than a full laptop.
My hangup on it is I like that we can hook up an egpu. But the fact that at the moment it's an actual necesity in order to get acceptable performance out of it kind of ruins the whole portable part of the experience. And yes, I know the upcoming tweaks will help. Just still kind of annoyed that we're being used as paying beta testers because they rushed this thing out instead of waiting another month or two.
Clearly it is, buying a gaming laptop is the best way to not waste money instead of adding all these extended graphics cards to this device imo
You have the SWITCH combo here. eGPU for couch gaming then unplugged and take the Lenovo on the Go. You will not need to upgrade that eGPU if a New Legion Go comes out. A Laptop is a good gaming and PC replacement but the mobility to play on the go plus terrible batteries 🪫 are not suitable.
I think this is great cuz Now if you buy a laptop, you can get whatever you like and keep your gaming on the Legion go. The Macbook Pros have great batteries life vs Windows laptops and you can travel with both the Macbook and the Legion Go. BEFORE i always needed a laptop that could do both things so i got a Razerblade. But now there is really no need for that.
Short-sighted though.
Yes, this isn't cheap. But;
A gaming laptop with an RTX 4070 will cost about £1700.
A Legion Go will cost £700, the 4070 £570 and an eGPU probably about £300. So not dissimilar in price point.
But the eGPU with a 4070 will probably outperform the laptop somewhat, but that's not the real benefit.
The real benefit comes from that in a couple of years, you could then upgrade the RTX 4070 to an RTX 5070 for the same £580 or so and get all the performance that comes from that upgrade.
Whereas with a laptop, you'll need to buy a whole new laptop.
That is when you realize that PC gaming is more akin to Tom & Jerry and not actual gaming. That is no different than trying to squeeze so much power out of a car that it's undrivable everyday even with mundane task like a grocery run.
If you put the emulation instructions video I'll definitely will view it lol ! You the reason I have a dope arcade machine ! Since 2020 I've been learning from you man ! Keep it up ! Much love 👾💯
This is why I love your videos. And I highly recommend them. Especially the fact you bring out the strengths of the Legion Go without nitpicking every little thing. Knowing the Legion Go is brand new which will only improve and get better overtime like the Rog Ally.
Your videos are always top notch. Thanks for the video.
I'd like to see Lenovo release a grip for the controllers, so you could just have the screen hooked up to a larger display and game from the couch. Something like the Nintendo Joycon comfort grip.
Bet someone will start 3D printing some soon !
the controllers are pretty bad attachment wise, they need a weird amount of force on their plastic rails to detach and it's pretty bad, it feels like they are going to break from mid term average use, they really feel awfull to detach and attach back to the device raising concern about the longevity of the joycon ability and the plastic parts and rails attaching it to the device. It does really feel like it's going to break every time you put them in and out.
That would be fire
@@imaginalex5850The longevity of the connectors for the detachable controllers has been my #1 concern and is the main reason ive been hesitant to go for one. Id like to see at the very least a 3 month or 6 month update after the fact of continuous use. Lenovo laptop hinges have been pretty mid for past few years but hopefully since its just one product and the connectors on this is a huge deal, they actually took time to work it out. I just dont want another SD card burning up type of situation that was only found out in the ROG Ally months later
You can literally use like 90% of controllers out there on this thing and you want joycons?
I’m loving using my legion go on my tv with the egpu. A few tips, controller has to be in fps mode to use a different controller. Controller companion is a life saver if you are using this on a television.
I want this setup with the legion go and the gpd g1, Seems like the best of both worlds. Good Video!
I'm planning to use this as a mini laptop. Hope someone make a keyboard case, it would be splendid.
If you can find a US English layout Microsoft Universal Foldable keyboard it is the absolute highest quality folding bluetooth keyboard I've ever used. Just keep in mind it is hard to find. Pair that with a kickstand for the Go and you'd have very nice portability
If it had a keyboard like the one on Onexplayer 2 pro would be awesome, hope some company do this.
@@user-jx6ct9mk8e my reply was aimed towards the dude that was looking for a keyboard case, which typically are flat keyed membrane keyboards. if i was talking to you you'd have seen the @ followed by your name, as is in this reply
I’m going to do the same. I have to many laptops
Thank you Mr Prime. You have broken the chains by bringing up real issues that people shopping are looking at and dock mode is super important and Asus dedicated egpu port I'd like to see the difference.
I ran an egpu laptop setup for my first gaming PC but the performance and general instability of it made me built a proper desktop. They have certainly come a long way in the last 4 years. I bet in a couple more years the handheld + egpu combo could be extremely tempting.
Just purchased this on Droix. Was so happy to see it available. Will be using it on my Legion Go and excited to see the improvements. I play sports games and the increased FPS will be beneficial. Thanks for posting this video!
It's been 2 months since your purchase claim. Are you still satisfied with the combo?
Have there been driver/software adjustments to USB4? That perf drop is smaller than I'd thought. Sure it's 20% versus what a 4090 in a Desktop with PCIE 4 16x would be in God of War. But it's retaining 80% of the performance with 75% less bandwidth (40gbps = 8GB/s vs the 32GB/s of PCIE 4 16x)
Thanks! This is the setup I have coming. I just ordered the GPD G1 and am still waiting on the Legion.
Might do the same. Looking like the only handheld that's egpu friendly that's a decent brand
Solid content, this is 100% what I'm looking for 👍
Great video, would love to see the Legion Go paired with the ADLINK Pocket AI and see how that performs.
Thanks a Million
I was waiting for eGPU test
And you made the the exact one I'm looking for (GPD G1)
you never fail to deliver & on the spot
Liked and subscribed. This video showed everything we need to know. Thanx, Eta Prime!
Absolutely amazingly - every review from ETA PRIME.
Your technical knowledge is on another level @ETA. Thanks for making this video I really do appreciate your channel :)
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would you ever do a full video on the gpd with the legion go, it would be nice to see what kinda benchmarks and frames you could get on different games
Pretty cool display, +the G1 egpu
So excited for the emulators showcase!
For us who moved from a lifetime of PlayStation and this is our first PC ever not just a handheld, can we get a video explaining all the graphics settings and what do we need to change/adjust for general gaming and what’s needed to be changed for certain games to get the best performance out of this over both battery and plugged in? Since because of your enthusiasm and reviews I got one and I love it. But I’m so overwhelmed with how much I need to do/learn just to using it especially coming after 20 years of Sony PS plug n play.
awesome. THIS was the video i wanted to see.
Absolutely Fantastic Review and explanation Cheers 😊😊😊
I really like you're video! Thanks
I have a great mini pcs....thats why I love eta prime....he always make me happy thats for your effort..
I'm really excited for TB5, ill then finally invest in a handheld. Whichever is the next gen in handheld, paired with an egpu will be my main setup.
Love the video!! Great as always. With thunderbolt 5 around the corner promising up to 2x the egpu bandwidth. Would that be enough to run the 4090 at full tilt or are we a ways away from that?
You'll likely be bottlenecked by the CPU anyway, so not worth it.
Since the joysticks are detachables, if Lenovo can make (or let other 3rd party OEMs make it) a dedicate keyboard which perfectly fit with this little device, then it could be turning into a gaming + productive 2-in-1 machine easily! Looking forward on that 😊😎
Just use a bluetooth keyboard with a dock. Easy.
Great review ETA, you always deliver. Now I need to buy one lol
This is why I went with a Windows handheld. I use my Ally as a mini PC and HTPC just as much as a gaming handheld.
I just put windows on my steam deck, treating it like every other pc I’ve used for the last ten years
to be fair Linux isn't why eGPU isn't supported on Steam Deck , its the lack of Thunderbolt/USB4 ports
Steam Deck 2 will more than likely have said ports. eGPU is supported by Arch Linux already.
But the Asus Ally is locked/limited to only using their external graphic cards, that are kinda hard to find in stock and when the 2-3 alternatives of Egpu for Asus is available to buy they are really expensive. If I understand it correctly the Legion Go does have a universal USB4/Thunderbolt so you can connect whatever graphic card you want ? Even though Asus own connection port is probably faster you could buy a RTX 3070 for 550$ and connect to the Legion Go or am I wrong ? I just recently heard about the Legion Go so I have not studied everything about it yet.
But to have a handheld unit I can play in my bed before going to sleep like a Nintendo Switch, and then take it to my friends house at weekends and connect it to a monitor, gaming mouse&keyboard and an external graphic card and play Battlefield 5 in 1440P with good FPS sounds amazing
Would love to see the gpd g1 tests using usb handheld mode...
Been tempted to get one for a while, hopefully they're not a ballache to get hold of
The setup for the water cooled 4090 is interesting, you said it's a razer core? Do you have any videos on how you modified that platform? I have an old watercooled GPU laying around and would love to get it running in an eGPU setup for the Go!
Wow. This is a beast of a machine. Way,way better then theu steamdeck and not that expensive of an upgrade if you have the top tier SD.
What keyboard is that? The key caps are amazing. I know I can't afford one but it would be in my purchase bucket list.❤
this one is a big help for those who has other important priorities in life other than buying a 5k cad budget cpu… so this legion go can be used with the standard keyboard and a standard mouse? tiA maybe they can show us some temperatures how it hold in long periods of gaming? mmorpg gamers dont turn off everything until game maintenance.
It might be preferable to use USB-C to DisplayPort rather than HDMI. The USB-C video signal is already encapsulated DisplayPort, so it just needs to be "unwrapped" rather than converted to HDMI. I think?
Definitely getting one 💯 %
wow awesome thanks for testing
@etaprime a couple other CZcamsrs mentioned issues with using AMD eGPU’s as the drivers would interfere with the APU drivers. Did you encounter this and how did you get around it?
Nice keyboard! What is it? This video definitely has me considering a Legion Go + eGPU set up
Cant wait to get my hands on a unit i have some things i whanna try and im hoping that can help others when i do, there is alot of potential in this device i really hope there will be a higher ram version in the future but for now its a splid machine. However i must say there are alot of settings in windows that needs to be tweaked to get the full performance out if the device.. im pritty sure there is some issues with for instance windows game bar that will drain performance, especially the screenshot and game capture hic ups that setting has.
Really nice test man! 👍🏼👍🏼 you should note that the 40 gibt’s usbc 4.0 speed is impaired if you use the cable for charging at the same time. It is often the case that the full speed cannot be reached when charging at the same time. With TB4, this is not a problem because there are also restrictions on cable length here and the cables must also be certified. With USBC, I’m not quite sure if this is really feasible. so if you have time, test it with a second USB C cable that is only used for charging. Try not to enable a charge with the first USB C cable, to which the video interface is connected. And try to stay at a maximum cable length of 70 cm. Use an TB4 Cable. Do not connect anything else on the egpu usb ports. Disable the internal Display. This allows us to prevent a bandwidth limit of the USBC connection. 👍🏼👌🏼🤝🏼
Thanks a lot for this video
Nice review. Could you test a microSD installation to let M2 port free for e-Graphic card connection? Thanks in advance
Can you do an eGPU setup comparison of Legion GO vs Ally with XGM? It seems Legion GO is more seamless with the eGPU, similar to the switch. Ally is clunky with activation deactivation of XGM
Hi! Thank you so much for your review, I have a question, where did you got you monitor from? Can you please send the link, thank you
Yeees, i ve been waiting for this
Really wanted to pick up the GPD G1, but then I saw 650-750$ and was shocked. Can't wait to get some competition in that size of eGPU, paying nearly 3x what a 7600xt costs is just insane even for the portability it brings to the table.
I probably would have bought it even at $500, but I think it's reasonable to hope we get similar products (with varying tiers of GPU inside) for the 300-600$ range - the G1 7600M XT being closer to that 300 USD range!
Considering Asus is charging $1000-2000 for their EGPUs. $650 is actually a good deal
It’s more than the GPU but the GPU plus an enclosure to make it a GPU isn’t far off. Then they build in other niceties. Price makes sense.
Where do you get your live wallpapers from? I watch all your videos and your live wallpapers are sick I need those in my life.
Looks really good! Just wish it had a left handed option.
Love your videos. I'm not in the US, and I'm planning to get one from there, but there's the thing about shipping. I just want to ask the dimension of the shipping box from the retail product you got. If you can give the estimated weight also, it would be appreciated. Thanks!
eta prime covering his face up with his hand at 3:02 was hilarious
Hello, what is the keyboard you're using in the vid, may I ask?
Awesome content man but im struggling getting the gpd g1 set up on my legion go. What are the steps you took to get it set up?
How is the fan noise and the temperature on the legion go when gaming ? does adding an egpu change anything regarding fan noise or temperature?
POWERFUL!!!!!! POWERFUL POWERFUL! Favorite word to use in your title.
That keyboard is sick. Wish I knew what brand and model it is?
Cant believe you filmed this video using a Pixel 8 Pro. Damn good sir!
interested to see a head-on comparison vs ROG ALLY, both with external RTX4090
if only asus would release an eGPU dock that you could put your OWN gpu in instead of the gimped mobile GPUs that cost twice as much for half the performance of its desktop counter part.
@@The0Advent as far as I know there is a bandwidth limitation for non-proprietary eGPU connectors right now which is why we don't have good modular eGPU housings for these handhelds yet. There's always a trade-off
where did you get your Keyboard? I really like it
What keyboard is that. The color scheme is awesome.
I really like the combo of the handheld PC with the eGPU, if only both weren't so prohibitively expensive in Australia 😭
You should do a video showing it can be used as a work computer with dual monitor setup and windows applications a business would use so I can convince my job to get it for me. It would become the new mullet Business during the week party on the weekend.
I am using the ROG Ally as my travel computer with a little dock (from JSAUX). When visiting my girlfriend I use her Monitor plus small Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse (Logi K380 something).
I use VS Code to SSH into the GPU my company's GPU cluster, so I do not run demanding tasks on the Ally. But for Email, Office applications and VS Code the 15W Performance mode is plenty enough. Its absolutely quiet while its super smooth and snappy. I think the Legion GO Should not differ much from that experience.
Before that I was using a DELL XPS 16 from 2016. The fans where always noticeable loud (even with super light office work) and it was a bit slower.
It’s going to behave like any other pc connected to two monitors
Great vid 👍
Hmmm, I have an old steam deck and a GTX 1080 collecting dust, my nephew wants a pc, this video gave me a few ideas.
What keyboard is that? Very cool looking!
Great video and awesome info, thank you! Can you share the AMD driver install process with the AMD external GPU? I just pick up the Gigabyte RX7900XTX to use with my Razer core X, I’m not confident it will be as easy as plug in and play, do you think I need to boot into safe mode and use DDU to uninstall the AMD driver before I install the 7900XTX driver from AMD website? Also not sure if the LLG will still work after unplug the EGPU, I’d like to know your thoughts to avoid breaking my LLG 😅
Any guy who is deep rooted to retro games to emulations to different configuration of hardware and software definitely knows what to say. THIS IS THE GUY
Hey ETA, I would love to hear ur opinion on what I'm looking to do... Im active duty in the navy and want to make a portable mobile android gaming setup. I do have a older Samsung Note 20 ultra and looking to buying a portable monitor so I can watch movies in my rack as well 🤣. So far u have me intrigued in the backbone controller to as something more hand held and simple.
Can you explain a bit more on your setup? Do you have the 60w mod active for this? Im trying it right now and with high settings 1080p I am only hitting 60fps on cyberpunk. Hopefully you could respond :)
"Now it might look like a monster, cause it is" that really made me feel like you can read our minds
Any chance you can do a video showing how to set up the GPD G1 with the legion go? Like what drivers to install, how to set it up so you can see both GPUs like you show in the video, etc. Would be very helpful.
Exactly, I have bought a legion go and connect it with my 2 years old tb3 egpu enclosure but no GPU detected which is not working like in the video. I even uninstall the internal graphic driver and roll the window 11 to window 10 and my gpu can't even detected on the device manager. Well then I buy a gpd g1 and it is directly connected with my legion go but once the legion go link with GPD G1 it just cannot change the 2k resolution to full HD anymore. It also can't connect to my monitor after connecting to GPD G1. Even though it's is connected with the Radeon RX7600XT and I could clearly see it on my task manager and device manager now but the problem is when I launch the game the frame rate is very low and not even exceed 10 FPS which really different with the scenarios shown on the video. CZcamsrs who post this video should demonstrate all tutorials regarding this video. You can't treat the video as normal showcase cause there's problems with the viewer which actually follows the information delivered on the video. Many buy the product as shown on the but the device didn't work and how they fixed the purchasing?
I had similar problems with my thunderbolt 4 dock with 3060. I had to change windows 11 to canary build in the Windows settings.
I might get this since asus never has their external gpus in stock
The video i was waiting for, ty @eta prime
Did you had some driver issues with the amd EGPU or was everything plug and play?
Couldn't you do 1440p and 4k just connecting the ROG Ally without an eGPU? Why didn't you test this one?
Will you be able to go back and forth between amd egpu and the internal apu? Or do you need to uninstall and reinstall drivers?
Looks fine af😮
I would love to see one of these x86 handheld's with with 780m have a OCUlink for eGPU so I could use it at home as a 4K machine but had the portability that I could take my games on the go in handheld mode, but dock at home as a full workstation. I would use Fedora or Suse Aoen micro as Gnome on a 1080p screen is perfect and fedora run steam for gaming.
Yeah I love the rog ally tho don’t know which to get for Christmas lol
Woot woot! Almost Oculink time!
ETA you must have used PCI-E splitters for the 4090? I believe all of them have require at least 3 connectors to run, maybe even 4 (my FE has 4 on the adapter plug) - or am I missing something?
where did you get that dock? :)
now really is there such am open dock out there? i think its more than enough to have usb 4/tb to pcie without all the other ports for a cheap price. i can do without any power supply too. just to be minimal and cheap
The legion is the tablet I always wanted
Love to see a comparison between the Legion Go and the Steam deck's docked performance. I know that obviously the steam deck is worse but I'd be interested to see the price to performance from each device.
You like watching the steam deck get beat up
@@mackw919he is more interested in seeing how the Steam Deck can hold up against its newest opponent
there's a lot of Steam Deck videos on CZcams you can already watch , i still think Steam Deck is better from price to performance standpoint + i don't play many AAA titles , but Lenovo Legion Go is something i would like to support as well instead of ASUS
Best channel in the game!
Hi ETA! I have the same setup LLG and GPD G1 but does not charge using GPD G1, but the display work
We saw the Temps for the egpu but what where the Temps for the cpu? How loud did the handheld get with the fans running?
Damn that is pretty sweet.
Does it not have an issue with drivers ? Doesn't that GPD eGPU use different ones from the ones the internal apu uses ?
The GPD G1 eGPU seems to work flawless with the Lenovo Legion Go for you. However The Phawx said, there are driver issues that prevent from easily changing between the GPD and the APU. Did you notice anything like that?! Thank you for your effort! phil
Would like to know too
I'd like to see a specific set-up process for epgu on legion go
Doens't the GPD G1 perform better via OccuLink instead of USB?
Does the Legion Go have a camera? If not what's that thing by the right thumbstick? LED indicator?
Probably won't get answered...but how did you get the legion go to work with the gpd g1? Can you explain or help out with the setup?
Can you test this setup for a unreal ungine 5 game like Alan Wake 2 ? to see if the performance is good or not :)
Have you had any issues with running on different games?
I am curious for a direct comparison of this setup vs Asus ROG Ally and XG Mobile, side by side. 🤔