Thunderbolt eGPU bandwidth limit explained | RTX 4090 + 13700H
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Want to know how eGPU works? What is the Thunderbolt bandwidth limit? How frames are generated for games and how all these questions are connected?
Testing RTX 4090 connected to TH3P4G3 with Gigabyte Aero laptop based on Intel Core i7 13700H
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00:00 Intro
00:39 Setting Up the Gigabyte Aero
01:20 About eGPU
01:29 Understanding Thunderbolt Bandwidth
02:44 So what is this bandwidth used for?
03:46 RTX 4090 Graphics Card Utilization
04:42 Benchmarks
07:02 The Impact of USB Devices
08:08 Conclusion
09:15 Why not just buy a gaming laptop?
10:14 Thunderbolt 5 soon!
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Thanks for this video . I have been always curious about eGPUs ankd this video gave me good idea of this.
Glad to hear that!
Thanks for your work, it's very useful. I hope our dream of a sleek laptop that simply docks into a gaming rig will become true soon :)
awesome review, keep it up. I will also wait until there are laptops with thunderbolt 5
I really liked how you got into the Thunderbolt details.
I have run an eGpu with an old i5 4 core laptop and now a i5 12500H laptop. The sweet spot for me seemed to be an RX 3070, and a 3080 was only marginally better, but I can see how a 4090 would be substantially better as it has sooo much more power.
What I have done recently is move from a big eGPU box to a GPD G1 (a little portable RX 7600M XT 8Gb card and Dock), and this does very well and fits in my bag. I have run an USB/NVME with this also and get 10Gbps speeds out of that, and also plug the network in. SO, basically a TB dock and eGPU. It also has Oculink so potential for a full 4 lanes of PCIe if you get a laptop with such a connector or add one yourself.
Yeah, the GPD G1 is a great device, I mentioned it in my Steam Deck video for those who want to use a handheld with an eGPU.
The only negative with this solution “GPD G1” aside from price is fan noise right? Like apparently there really loud?
@@MrOB099 Not silent when gaming for sure, but not really loud either. I would say it is not louder than a gaming laptop when you are playing. Even then the sound is more like an air rushing rather than annoying fan whine and you can put the box further away. It also does well with cooling too. I kept the 100w bios and I understand if you do switch to the 120w bios the noise goes up and you get maybe only 8% more performance.
The actual negatives I would say (aside from price) are AMD support that seems to leave the mobile GPUs out of special features, though that may be in part due to the "hybrid" nature of the setup iGPU+eGPU. However, I use something called Lossless Scaling (available on steam) to get upscaling and frame generation (great software that works with all GPUs).
I’m on a 4070 with a breakaway box via TB4. Has been awesome!
Great video. Excellent explanation👍
I've been using an RTX 4070 super with my legion go with a z1 extreme. This was a great video, thank you.
Doing the same thing actually man, how has the CPU been holding up!!!
@xavierrodriguez-sr8cv It's great, I haven't run into any cpu bottlenecks, and I don't have any issues with heat. At 30 watts, it won't much go over 75c under load. It's a nice little setup with my 1440p monitor. If you really want to there are ways to push the TDP up to like 60watts plus. ETA prime has a video doing this, the single core performance has a huge increase.
N1
What enclosure do you use?
@gabealberro6081 Just went with a razor core x for simplicity. You could probably a lot better for cheaper. It works great and all but I don't know that it's worth the price.
Excellent video. Thunderbolt 5 seems promising.
First of all, thank you for the video, I feel me so honored to be subscribed to this channel due to the above-average quality, especially because it is educational and very informative!
I want to ask you something, I have a laptop with an i7 10875H and an RTX2070, do you think an EGPU with an RTX4060 would give me a gain in performance?
Thanks for the video and if you can answer me! (sorry for my bad English)
Welcome aboard! :)
I can't say for sure, but I think you'll see slight performance improvements. I don't think it's worth it
Thanks so much for answer@@trysometech52
Just some info, the PCIE lane depends on what thunderbolt controller being used in the host device. For example, I'm using huawei matebook x pro which using JHL6240 thunderbolt 3 controller, it only has 2 pcie lanes physically. But on some other laptop, like lenovo ThinkPad T480, it uses JHL6540 thunderbolt 3 controller which has 4 pcie lanes.
thanks for informing me in this video, by the way do u know any good m.2 to usb c adapters that are high quality and arent sketch? it would be greatif u know some
Question, how to up scale in legion go ? And what best setting for legion go for external monitor or internal from your experience
If you decide to do a revisit, I'd recommend to check if turning off Afterburner and RTSS will help in games with low performance/stutters.
I can seem to find the information about the difference between using the TH3P4G3 Thunderbolt 60w vs the 85w. I wanna run RTX 4070 ti with external SSD. Which should i get? Does it make a difference? Why are there 2 different wattage rating? Thanks
I don't know, not sure that there is some additional difference between them. It's better to ask the AliExpress seller about it
Great video, glad i discovered this video. Can you please do a comparison of Image generation using eGPU vs iGPU and puting the gpu in your PC that you might build next. You can use the Automatic1111 as it's easy to setup. Using egpu for this machine learning or generative task would be a great use case as there is no video output like games. it would be like mining as mining only needed 4x pcie.
Hey, thanks :)
If it's not CPU intensive, it should work fine. And I can run this test for you, but maybe next month. I'm just not ready for that yet
@@trysometech52i'd be interested too
Hey, is there any specific settings or cases that I should use for generating images?
@@trysometech52 i think my previous comment was deleted, just automatic1111 in dgpu and egpu see time it takes to generate, so use free to use upscaling model and try to upscale to 8k and see the time it took in both gpu. also try open GPT model.
@mutantCybernetics @lufenmartofilia5804
As I promised, new video is there with the benchmarks you asked for
bro, Thanks 👍
Hello i have an all in one pc but it doesn't have a thunderbolt 3 can i use a adapter
Thanks for the video! Question, is thunderbolt 4? Thinking for legion go since i got a gpd g1 and having issues with z1 extreme thats on the legion go.
Sorry but I didn't get your question. And the gpd g1 has Oculink, don't you wanna go for GPD handheld to use that port? It's way better then USB4 on Legion Go
@trysometech52 I'm sorry. I was talking about the egpu dock that you were using in your video. The aliexpress one. It's thunderbolt 4 yes?
Like I said in this video, every eGPU dock is Thunderbolt 3. But they are TB4 compatible and got same bandwidth speed
@trysometech52 my bad didn't catch that part! Thanks for the video. Plan on doing a video of how to set it up, power supply advice etc? That'd be awesome.
How to set it up you can find here - czcams.com/video/EOsGqAeyCtA/video.html
As for the PSU - depends on power consumption of your GPU + ~150W. And don't get cheapest one like I did there for the testing :D
How's you performance recording vs not recording ❓🤔
Also do you think there's any way to increase the bandwidth even a little from like 24 gbps to 28 or something
Performance is not affected at all, maybe ~1% sometimes.
I think the only way to increase bandwidth is to wait for Thunderbolt 5, haven't heard of any other ways to do it :D
I connected a 4070 egpu to i7 intel iris xe laptop (with thunderbolt 3) but get 40 fps on cyberpunk 2077, any advice for better performance?
Does the chip have the thunderbolt controller built into the SOC, or is the controller on a separate chip: the chipset? If the latter is the case it nukes performance.
The latter, TB4 controller on Raptor Lake Hs, not integrated. This review is flawed. "As this is based on Intel's desktop silicon and PCH, what you won't find here is integrated Thunderbolt 4 support. Instead, OEMs will need to add that via discrete TB4 controllers," - AnandTech
I have a Lenovo AIO i7 13th gen with 32 GB ram, Intel UHD graphics , thunderbolt 3 ports . Which eGPU should i use ?
im also using TH3P4G3 with amd cpu 6800u and nvidia gpu rtx 3070ti
i saw your aida64 result and its only getting 2700MB/s
on my device i got 3000MB/s,
i guess its the cpu or cable that limit the bandwidth?
Hey, could you also please share your Memory Write numbers?
The thing is, this is not my result, I used it from another guy's video since I already returned my laptop to the store and couldn't do my own test. But this result matched what I found on the internet about eGPU, so I used it.
@@trysometech52 sure, i just uploaded a short video, i tested it using cudaz
heres the rounded numbers
Host to Device: 2700MB/s
Device to Host: 3000MB/s
I see, thanks. Gotta check mine later on other device as well
Which graphics card should you get? Use a Legion Go and want to get a 4070 super.
thanks for vedio , cna you please try it in external monitor ? i thinck it will be batter because output will not pass back to internal monitor , do you thick that ?
I know, I literally explained that here 2:44 :)
All test were done with external 4k monitor
Informative video, can clearly see that 4090 is heavily bottlenecked by the thunderbolt connection. There are oculink adaptor that uses the laptop nvme ssd (pcie x4) slot for external gpu connection and oculink supported pcie connector for gpu which gives a much higher bandwitdth compare to TB. In theory it should improves the bottleneck situation significantly but it is a much more DIY-ish solution.
Yeah, Oculink eGPU will be delivered soon and we'll compare them
Incredibly informative. Thank you!
Laptops with dGPU's are pretty much useless because of the poor battery life.
Being able to plug an eGPU and not needing to invest on a desktop will be really nice.
One device(and port) to rule them all.
laptops uses less nuclear power
Interesting that you can use the laptop display as in the past you could only output to and external monitor I think.
Привет, а есть ли это видео на русском? А то не понятно, стоит ли для тандарболт 4 покупать внешку или нет. Или у вас тандарболт просто порезаный. И пробовали ли вы подключать через этот тандарболт монитор 4к 120Hz?
Is there any benefit to using an external m.2 nvme ssd for game installation in this case? I see you're using the Samsung T5 which is SATA
Hmm, what benefits can you theoretically get? Probably faster transfer speed but not sure that it's necessary for 99% of games
this is why i got a mini pc with oculink + 4070 instead, since i'm not interested in 4k gaming (yet), just 1440p.
oculiink goes up to 63gbps on PCIE4x4 so it's pretty much native.
N1 That is the Future for a lot of PCs i think. Litte plus PC.
The only other considerations which would be interesting and perhaps prudent, (especially given this day and age of all things AI,) is better understanding the impact which would might persist or be hindered when utilizing an eGPU arrangement with uthose higher end 4,000 series (4070 and up) GPUs; which now also include onboard TPUs ("tensor processing units") for the purpose of localized GPT and AI (LLM & Generative) checkpoint file "training" and local "iterations".
I was using a combination of RTX 2070 iGPU and eGPU on an Aero 15 H9750 for mainly 3D workflows and renderings for about 2-3 years (work required me to have a mobile setup). Despite the eGPU being more powerful on paper (by 15-20%) the iGPU was outperforming it in most cases and also offered a smoother experience in most games despite similar framerates. In addition when the eGPU was set as primary and fully loaded, it mostly failed to dedicate enough resources (or have enough left over bandwith) for smooth multitasking.
As it currently stands, until we get Thunderbolt 5 which will double or triple the bandwidth I wouldn't really recommend an eGPU at all and instead purchase a faster laptop (or just go with a desktop).
As for the 4090, its power consumption can depend on the feature set the app or program is asking from it. It can indeed 100% at around 230-250W without any bottlenecks, however something like Cyberpunk where it loads up the "tensor cores - ray tracing" as well, it will jump past 420W. To get a really good comparison you would need to get an equivalent desktop CPU. But from experience I think the bottleneck for a 4090 might be between 30-50%, depending on the game/resolution/framerate.
Yes you're right, and I already made such comparison :)
Check my other video
Hello, can I ask what eGPU you used. I have found many don't support higher end graphics cards due to under powered power supplies.
hey, you can find a link in the description
@@trysometech52 Which one specifically did you choose? Did you get one with the 85W laptop support and ATX form factor?
@@enigma2483 yeah, mine is a bit older with 65W. I have an unbox video czcams.com/video/EOsGqAeyCtA/video.html
Does this dock power on and power of with the notbeook or would it be running constantly even if no host is connected.
It turns off once you unplug the Thunderbolt cable
but can you connect 2x usb c on your external EGPU ?
Thanks for excellent video. An XPS 15 9530 with 13700H and 4060 (at 45W) is much better for rendering with GPU using a 4090 egpu?❤🎄🥂🇮🇹
Hey, sorry but I haven't done any rendering tests with the eGPU, so I can't say for sure.
@@trysometech52 😫
@@trysometech52 Could you try a rendering test? Or give me a short your idea about? Thanks and happy new year.
Thanks :)
What rendering are you interested in? Video?
@@trysometech52 Arcviz, thanks! V-ray or Twinmotion/ D5... and... could i build a pc only with psu/gpu?😍
how to fix the frequent disconnection using thunderbolt 4 thanks
do u use extra monitor on the test or laptop's monitor?
External
if you use an egpu with an external monitor, is there more latency than if you had a discrete graphics card and were using either the laptops screen or an external monitor?
No, it doesn't affect latency
On MSI Afterburner there is a monitoring option for BUS Usage. You have to monitor it. And yes, frame time are so horrible, and it would be better 60fps straight line, than 120fps zigzag.
I wish I had known about that monitoring option before. But I can't agree about frame time with you. Most of the time it was pretty good and stable
This frame time becuse of the bug in Afterburner. It don't support external GPU.
Hello can in minisforum um780 XTX?
I just got a similar laptop with 13705H + 4050 80W TGP, so I guess I only get egpu if the price isn't to bad because its seem there's no guanrantee it may be good?
Yeah, in some games performance can be kinda random, but mostly it can outperform 4050 like I showed here 8:40
Can a VGA with an internal Nvidia GPU such as an RTX 4060 use an Nvidia GPU too? I have used Adt Link NVME, using a GTX 1650 laptop, I can't use an RTX 4060 GPU, I have to use an AMD RX6600 VGA
Hi I want to buy Lenovo legion slim 5 (13700H, 4060) and I only use it for architecture design and rendering (using Revit and Twinmotion). and for heavy architecture scenes 8Gb of vram on 4060 is not enough. I want to help me what external gpu should I get. and is it worth it. and how much performance I gain relative to my dedicated 4060 gpu. thanks for awesome videos
Hi, thanks man! I'm not sure if I can help you with good advice as I've never used the programs you mentioned. The more CPU dependent the computation is, the more performance you will lose by using an eGPU, as I tried to explain in the video
I would say get a GPU with the vram you need. Also take a look at eGPU for productivity tests as you still have the PCIe limit here and it would depend how much those programs offload to the GPU and how much they interact.
Performance wise I don't think you would see a massive gain over the laptop 4060 (assuming it is a high wattage version) unless you stepped up to 4080/90, here is certainly room. Do you want to drop the money for a 4090 desktop card or maybe look at a 4090 laptop with 16Gb vram?
I was thinking about getting eGPU because my laptop only lacks a stronger GPU (my current GPU is GTX 1650 ddr6). I wish there was a way to change the GPU, but unfortunately laptops don't work like that.
Gigabyte being Gigabyte since the early 2000s.
Was there any difference in performance using the laptop screen vs. an external screen?
Yes, there will be a better performance on external monitor and reason was explained in the video
Привет а что за модель ноутбука была у тебя кроме thinkpad ? И насколько thinkpad t14 хорош для egpu? Или он совсем слабый для этих целей?
Привет! Модель написана примерно в начале видео 0:46
Касательно thinkpad, тут всё зависит от целей использования и видеокарты, к которой ты его подключишь. Короче просто так не ответить) Но в целом справится с нетребовательными играми
@@trysometech52 Спасибо за ответ. Просто к примеру если у меня thinkpad t14s есть и подключить к нему к примеру также egpu только GeForce 1660 можно ли будет поиграть в игры из видео к примеру на не высоких настройках? Насколько видеокарта будет реализовывать свой потенциал при использовании egpu? Или нужно брать более мощную видеокарту чтоб что-то можно было поиграть с использованием ноутбука и egpu? Просто переживаю что видеокарта на таком слабом железе не реализует весь свой потенциал ?
И ещё вопрос есть ли смысл попробовать подключить MacBook Pro на intel процессоре или лучше не стоит пробовать так как мак сам по себе не очень для игр?
Однозначного ответа нет, не хочу просто обнадёжить тебя пустыми обещаниями) Но чем менее процессорозависимая игра - тем лучше она будет работать и "раскрывать" eGPU. И как ты уже видео по другому видео, вне зависимости от видеокарты будет теряться часть производительности. Так что 1660 вполне может стать хорошей парой для твоего ноута, если ты не планируешь играть в игры как Battlefield 2042)
Про мак не знаю, лично не пользовался. Но если там мощнее проц и поставить на него винду, то скорее всего лучше себя проявит
I wonder if dual TB4 solves the bottleneck? Although I have not found any egpu enclosures that offer that. I have dual TB4 on my yoga 9i 2in1 with core ultra 7 ,16 core cpu and 32gb of mem.. would love to see this thing become a gaming machine
Whats difernet tb 3 vs tb 4? Isnt significant different right?
There is a difference between the two, but not for the eGPU, since every eGPU enclosure use TB3.
This is quite in depth. I love how you _had_ to prove that the SSDs cause negligible performance degregation.
Armchair commenters completely forgot that as much as possible things are loaded into memory than read from disks. Yeah your game loading time would take a probable hit but the effect to FPS should be negligible.
idk why one would want this, but okay.
i have a desktop with a 5800x3d and a rtx 4080, but every time i sit to use my laptop with its i7 10750k and rtx 2070, i cannot help but be impressed to this day with how well the damn thing performs. it was my first ever high end laptop, and from its longevity while retaining its awesomeness, i'd say the best purchase yet, even though it was expensive. thing's a joy to use 3 years later even coming from my much more powerful desktop.
Don’t forget about a handhelds or a mini-PC, they are also an option for eGPU :)
Like Legion Go ;) I fire it with an ADT Link U3TG + 4090 GPU... I think oculink would only lose about 2%. But the Legion Go doesn't have Oculink.
Why didn't you show us the GPU bus consumption as long of the GPU data overlay of the Riva turner?
At the time of the video, I didn't know I could do that.
you couldnt charge your laptop via tb port on aero because of the rtx 4050, im guessing your lenovo is onboard graphics?
Yes, that's correct. Can you please explain to me how GPU/iGPU related to the charging?
Probably should cap it to 4k 60 vsync. when connected too external display. lower the gpu utilization down by 15% too reduce stutter.
Hello i have i7 1360p 16gb ram samsung galaxy book. Will aorus gtx 1070 gaming box go good with that? Also tell me other compatible options to avoid bottleneck
Hey, yea that should work fine.
The only option is to use external monitor
so theoretically, this would be closer to a desktops performance with a lower end gpu, if this is the case, I'd like to see what a 3080 or maybe 4070 can do in the enclosure.
Not exactly, check my other GPU vs eGPU video, I tested RTX 2060 there
For people who use vsync and caps fps at 60 or 90 etc, this would be plenty bandwidth for gaming, i use a older 4k tv and it is vsync 60fps and its great for gaming, because the low 60fps keeps my 4080 at lower usage and cooler meaning the fans dont have to run all the time. i could easily run my gpu externally if i had the thunderbolt connection, but sadly amd dont have it. I could use oculink and might make my own enclosure one day.
Can EGPU works for Large Language Model training ? will it hit the 40 GBPS limit ?
In my latest video I tried to test Stable Defusion and it worked pretty well there, but I've never tried training LLM. If it's not CPU demanding, it will probably work just as well. Can't say for sure
can i use desktop video card on my laptop asus tuf a15 ryzen 7735hs with usb 4 ?
Yes
@@trysometech52 thank you
can you build somthing for the rog ally ?
Nope :( Only with XG Mobile
But what if you connect the 4090 via M.2????????
I wish you had done a couple of creator benchmarks, Blender, for example. But thanks.
I guess that I can't cover all the benchmarks, but I tried my best. Check my latest video with eGPU vs GPU, I tested Twinmotion and Adobe Premiere Pro there
Hi .. how is work with your MacBook this eGPU but Mac just take AMD gpu
The eGPU only works with Intel-based MacBooks, mine is on M1 Pro.
Basically, eGPUs will remain bottlenecked until we get mainstream Thunderbolt 5 support
hi I have MacBook Pro 13 2019 (Intel Core i5-8279U )
which video card will be the best for me? 4060 or 3060?
Apple has a support document 102363 is the article number. macOS does not support Nvidia GPUs because of the whole falling out they had a decade back with Nvidia mobile onboard graphics. AMD GPUs are your best bet potentially look at getting an RX 6800 or 6800XT
@@connorcleveland9166 yes, but I usually use windows for games, for macOS I don’t use egpu
I already have gigabit rx580 gaming box, but the not enough fps in games
Hey, I think you better decide. The 3060 has move VRAM, but the 4060 has Frame Generation (which will help with weak mobile CPUs). There is also a 4060 with 16GB, but the price for that is weird
Is m.2 or thunderbolt better in ur opinion? Idk which one to choose
The biggest difference is that m.2 is not hot-swapable, while thunderbolt is.
And honestly the performance gains are nice over thunderbolt 3 and 4, but not 5, so I'm just waiting to buy a laptop and egpu dock over Tb5 to get fast speeds without having to reboot.
@@_reZ will it be a big difference in performance ? I have a egpu dock all setup but it’s through m.2 and I thought of using a m.2 to thunderbolt adapter and I just need to know difference in performance realy
I plan to make a video with a detailed comparison as I often get questions like this :)
But you'll get a way better performance through m.2. (if it's PCIe 4.0) and a little bit better if it's PCIe 3.0
@@trysometech52 I see, but I feel like connecting it to a m.2 slot kind of defeats the point of having an egpu as It’s basically a pc at this point, I’ve decided to purchase a thunder bolt 4 ssd enclosure so that I can have much more flexibility on my egpu :)
@@voltfn2775 yep, totally agree on that. Unless its a handheld (just like from my last video), but even there I had a lot of problems :D
Is it possible to run eGPU without thunderbolt??
Bro I just need this type of video. thank you ssooooo much. Why don't you also consider comparing thunderbolt4 (40Gbps) with oculink (63Gbps) toooooo???? Plzz consider making one 🥹
Glad to hear that! Actually I ordered an Oculink device, but we have to wait for it
Wait, so if I get a RTX 3060 or 4060 there should be no thunderbolt bottlenecking right? Since, the RTX 3060 has a bandwidth of 15GB/S and RTX 4060 has a bandwidth of 17GB/S and thunderbolt can support up to 22GB/S. So, from what I understood only high-end GPUs have higher bandwidth than the 22GB/S are bottlenecked.
Am I wrong? does the 15GBPS and 17GBPS bandwidth on the GPU mean something else?
I'm just really confused about this right now since I can't really find many videos about this so pls help.
Hey, where you got that information from? 3060 or 4060 using regular PCI-E lines, which has way more bandwidth speed. I am pretty sure that bottleneck will be anyway. I got some benchmarks for future video, it will cover all your questions
@@trysometech52 thanks I think I got some stuff mixed up
@@alanzowo7710 from where did you get those numbers 15GBPS and 17GBPS bandwidth? , if it's right i thick gpu will work well, i think if we used external monitor will be batter
@@abdolovecar I was tryna get a gpu from the website called microless
Why does it cost me as much as a new computer to buy a eGPU setup? I might as well get a new DIY computer instead of getting a upgraded GPU via external GPU.
Around 4th minute, I think there's a misunderstanding about how the GPU / CPU percentage is expressed in Afterburner for example. If it indicates that GPU is being used at 99%, that means that the workload of that particular game or application is being 99% handled by the GPU (as it should when things run properly). Therefore Afterburner can indicate 99% GPU for a workload that requires 320 watts or 450 watts, since it is not related to the full GPU cores being necessarily in use.
Yes, except that when using that same GPU in a PC, the power consumption/GPU load is usually predictable. In the case of eGPUs, it's always close to 100%, so I had to point this out so that other viewers don't get confused and think the video card is running at 100% of its capabilities. At least it's some kind of orientation :)
Is this egpu work with intel mac ?
Yeah it should work
Anyone having issues with the TH3P? For some reason it keeps connecting and disconnecting (light turns green and off) not sure if I got one with failures or I am doing something wrong.
Hey, are you sure that you connected everything right, using the right cable and your device has Thunderbolt 3/4 or USB4?
@@trysometech52Hey! I believe so, instead of a laptop Im using a Legion Go but it should be fine. It kinda works when I connect the thunderbolt to the Non charging port but PSU keeps clicking when I connect the other port.
I see now, I also had same problem with Legion Go, but it was happening because I was holding a handheld in my hands and moving it around, and apparently the connection there isn't as secure for movement. As soon as I put a handheld on the table, the connection was stable.
@@trysometech52 hmmm I will double check that, thank you!
@@trysometech52would love to see a video from you regarding egpu and legion go combination as it's getting lots of hype in the legion go community
what if your laptop does not have thunderbolt i have an asus rog strix with a rtx 2060
Well, you can't connect it without USB4 or Thunderbolt. The only option for you is m.2. eGPU
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hey a egpu could work better with a i9 14900hx (2.2mhz-5.8mhz) and thunderbolt 4 specyfically the 4070 ti super
is that a question or a statement?
@@trysometech52question
Either way, the bottleneck will be bandwidth, not CPU. I tried using it with 14900K and there was no difference.
what about using eGPU with stable diffusion?
Are you sure there isnt a ram bottleneck? I see it at almost 15gb used in every game and you only have 16gb
Yes sure, I saw same behavior in another video where I connected eGPU to my desktop PC with 32gb of RAM
Need to use an external screen
Yep
My laptop don't have thunder bolt port
Bro, I already answered to you that you can find info about m.2. or Oculink eGPU
Will this work on steamdeck...?
Nope, the Steam Deck doesn't have a USB4 port to use it
yes you can but with some limitations, you must use windows. Here is a parts list for ya. Steam deck dock with M.2 storage. M.2 oculink adaptor, oculink cable, oculink gpu dock, gpu, and power supply. You can also get the GPD G1 as its an all in one oculink egpu. However you will not get decktop performance as it uses the 7600m xt laptop gpu. Oculink is much better then usb4/tb4
@DjVendetta And your Steam Deck is no longer portable :D You should have mentioned that it's a completely different eGPU with a less convenient connection, just to not confuse him. You still can't use TH3P4G3 for that
@@trysometech52 true just saying there is an option.
@@trysometech52 Also the sd card could be used for the operating system and game storage so technically it could still be portable. But slower load times of course. Personally I went from a steam deck to a GDP WM4 with G1 over oculink but its a pain to get Chimera OS working with oculink. So I am just scrapping the modular back pack friendly setup and building a 7800xt (sapphire 2 fan) Chimera SFF desktop. Still haven't ordered a motherboard yet as I am waiting for more information on the BD770i from minis forum.
Oculink to the resuce
Gigabyte AERO is a very bad choice. The display is nice, but as you said, FAN noise is terrible and the worst of all; there is no splash water protection. A tiny little drop of water on the keyboard will destroy your motherboard! The Thinkpad workstations on the other hand are very solid. No advertising here, I had to learn it the hard way and took it as a lesson to never buy hardware that has no military standard.
So its not worth connecting an 4090 egpu to a laptop with a 4060
well, you'll get a way better performance, but still not worth at all
10:10 Its funny. I gad tested 3 high end asus laptops thyey weren't cheap and have issues and just went with lenovo and its the best computer i had ever have
il problema sono anche i 16gb di ram,sono troppo pochi nel 2024 e wundows 11 ha bisogno da solo per funzionare di 8gb di ram,oggi servono 32gb di ram nel pc per funzionare bene con i giochi e anche con altro.
i would say use the NVMe PCIe Gen 4.0x4 port (64 GBit/s) but u have only one slot 😂
Use oculink
Oculink, thunderbolt low fps deduction of 50% egpu is a joke and incomplete.
thats why the future is OCULINK
Ryzen and USB 4 same and better
4:36 wrong
Usb 4.1 = 80gbps
You accent is a little bit too strong to be able to follow your story without effort. But nice condensed info. Keep making these video’s please.
Yeah, I am working on it :)
блять, а нахуя тестить эту систему в Rocket League. Хотелось бы увдеть нормальные тесты (3d mark, Unigine Superposition и т д)
Another tester that using GPU that is not for gaming in games ...
So there's a better GPU for gaming than this and I don't know it exists?
@@trysometech52 This particular GPU was not designed for gaming but for creatives in mind. It is expensive and not worth to pay to get few extra frames. More over test should be made with external monitor as this gets the highest performance in eGPU setup.
This is the best performing GPU in gaming at the moment. There is simply no other GPU that can match it in terms of performance. Besides, it's not Quadro/Titan, it's the RTX lineup.
As for the external monitor - you must be kidding, I'm sure you haven't even watched the video if you say that.
@@trysometech52 Quadro is a different story. Their purpose is completely different. You can not compare it with RTX.
You said that RTX 4090 is not for games, not me
Ewww! Thunderbolt is for poor people. Actual real people that aren't poor used Oculink.
Oculink isn't hot-swapable, which is a massive downside.
@@_reZ How often are you disconnecting your egpu? If you are going to move your computer around you are going to have to turn it off anyways.
can't understand your english
I prepared subtitles, that could help
Bro tried doing this without Oculink 🤡🤡🤡
And how exactly does Oculink change the point of the video? 🤡
@@trysometech52the connection is more direct via pcie.
@@EzaneeGires The point of video is about bandwidth speed and how/where it affects performance. The principle is the same, it's just that Oculink has a higher bandwidth speed.
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The bottleneck could have been the cable
eGPUs are advertised with the Thunderbolt, not the Oculink