GPD G1 IN-DEPTH Review! - SMALLEST AMD 7600m XT eGPU - Oculink AND Thunderbolt
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
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Chapters
00:00 - GPD G1 - OCULINK eGPU
02:00 - How-To Enable ReBar (Alt+F5 in GPD BIOS to Unlock)
03:25 - Methodology - Baseline Understanding of my testing
04:47 - HOW AMD Smart Shift Works! Really Cool!
05:00 - DOOM Eternal GPD G1 Demo 1080p
10:11 - INTERNAL 1080p Oculink Vs. Thunderbolt Benchmarks
10:40 - Batman Arkham Knight 1080p Max Settings
11:50 - Cyberpunk 2077 1080p Steam Deck Setting NO UPSCALING FoV 100
13:31 - Deus Ex Mankind Divided 1080p Ultra Settings DX11
14:28 - Returnal 1080p Epic Settings NO UPSCALING
15:41 - Returnal GPD G1 Demo 1080p
18:09 - EXTERNAL 4K Oculink Vs Thunderbolt AND ReBar ON vs OFF
19:03 - Batman Arkham Knight 4k Max Settings
21:04 - Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra RayTracing Preset FSR2 Auto 4K
23:08 - Deus Ex Mankind Divided DX11 Ultra Settings 4K
24:48 - Returnal Epic Settings NO UPSCALING 4K
25:44 - So, Thunderbolt or Oculink?
27:28 - Is The GPD G1 Worth It?
30:03 - What I Didn't Like
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Dang, you're making me want to buy Returnal. Must resist, my backlog is too great...awesome video!
Returnals awesome
@@ThePhawxcould you provide a walkthrough on how to get the g1 and the legion go to work? I’m at a stand still.
What a time to be alive if you’re a handheld gaming PC enthusiast
Waiting for so long to this ages!
It's bout time but we need moarrrr options
Eg 4060,rx7600s or even 6500m just for some 1080p60 gaming
Yh
"Switchable" gaming. OTG longevity. Docked 2K immersion.
THANK YOU! I’m surprised I haven’t seen a push for using an eGPU just like a bigger power brick; playing now at 1080p max settings handheld. Thanks for testing and comparing framerates on the Win 4 display.
Love how you did an uncut thumbnail to video transition 😆 And finally eGPUs start to become convenient
bro youre the best in the game.
Love this guy, for all us tech spec geeks out there, he brings out the good sh*t!
Finally! I've been trying to find a video review that features both the win 4 and G1 together for *ages*
amazing analysis and summary. It's always information to watch your channel.
Superb testing methodology. Very helpful!
Nice work. Hoping to see more e-GPU options grow with GPD devices. I'd also like to see Minisforum use OcuLink in their desktops pushing to higher performance e-GPU packages.
Right now you can buy the M.2 to oculink adapter and connect the G1 via oculink
Well today is the launch day of Minisforums new Um780 XTX with oculink
@@superghetto420 Looking into it - thanks!
PHAWX IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS LESGOOOO
What we really need GPD to actually develop is a nice and solid Oculink + Thunderbolt Dock in the usual GPD aesthetic. Basically just strip out the 7600m XT from the G1 unit so we can put our own gpus in there (plus optional shroud / cover for the looks)
Have a couple different SKUs, a barebones SKU thats simply an Oculink + tb dock but you plug your own PSU for the budget hack monster setups and another maybe with Gan power built in. Possibly release tiers over time 250w / 350w etc based on feedback and backers.
Any 1 of those I've mention sounds far more appealing to me over the current G1 simply because I don't wanna be stuck with an (admittedly small and sleek) eGPU that cannot be repurposed later. It may be fine now as is but iGPU performance will outclass mid tier gpus in a few years! Just look at all those Blackmagic 580 pro eGPUs on second hand sites. I love the GPD push on oculink but this reeks of a Wii U to me
P.S Keep it up Phawx, awesome attention to detail. Loving your content so far!
Awesome review super helpful. I am curious to learn more about the OSMETA setup you have with the RTX 4090 (ie. what sort of PSU, bracket, and style of OSMETTA board [there seems to be a few options out there now]).
Great video, great collection of data. I assume thunderbolt and usb4 would be very similar results.
haha... love the glee in your face when you make the reference to the GPD win 2's spiritual successor returning! LONG LIVE THE KING. the GPD win Mini is going to be awesome!
I think this might my first comment on CZcams ever after 10+ years here.
What a great video, thank you :)
Great content as always @ThePhawx
I was wondering, considering Thunderbolt 5/USB4 v2 will be released to the market sometime in 2024, and it will support symmetrical 80Gbps + 140W PD and hot swappable usage; wouldn't be the perfect replacement for both Oculink (63Gbps) and TB/USB4 (40Gbps + 100W)? wouldn't be the final 1 cable to rule them all? or am I missing something to still consider oculink during 2024?
Sandwich format and micro cube desktops are looking pretty bright right now too.
Can't wait to get my Win Max 2 2023 + G1. It won't replace my workstation, but it's going to make a fantastic computer for work and also to go. Yes, I'm more interested in these devices for productivity purposes, and the occasional "gaming break". It's fascinating how only GPD seems to adhere to this scenario.
Great video!
Would you be getting a GPD win mini unit in advance?
If yes, do help us test thoroughly for issues, especially for the screen and games/roms loading off microsd (any stutter/frequent disconnecting of the card etc).
Can you make a video putting the win 4 up against some recent desktop CPU checking out how much performance you lose plugging something like a 4090 in an handheld instead of a desktop?
I wonder how would the Starfield will perform on this. I can't wait to find out.
Phawx do you think this kind of device could add a USB4 port to daisy chain another Thunderbolt device, for instance a soundcard?
very informative. :)
Dear Phawx. love the content and would appricate your advice on if its worth getting a ROG ally or win max 2 2023 / win 4 2023 while i have a win max 2 allready. is the jump in performance worthy of the purchase ?
Does the Osmeta kit come with the bracket to hold the video card? I'm so curious about this set up. I would like to try it with my Win Mini and a a 4000 series card?
any chance you can do a review onexgpu? would love to see how they go head to head. Debating if I should back it ans use it for my gpd win mini..
Before all of this was announced, I purchased the GPD Win 4 2022 model with 32GB ram and 2TB storage. I also invested in the Razer Core X and the 7900xtx for $1200.
I just ordered the 7840u GPD Win 4. Would it be more viable to get the G1, or invest in the OSMeta setup and use the 7900xtx?
Appreciate your in depth review. Thank you. However, GPD G1 is not available for contribution on Indiegogo as of 7/12/23. Hopefully it is soon.
I wonder where he got the 4090 egpu chassis. Not sure if I found the right one or not when searching for OSMeta.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Can you do a tutorial on how to do the oculink 4090 set up? I’d love to get if for my win max 2 but I’m so confused on how to do it…
30:00 How loud is the G1? Like the Deck, or louder?
G1 is all in one solution Egpu. it is focus on portability. throw in your backpack and go. which inline with GPD product.
Would like to see this in maybe a modular format, so it can be upgraded
GPD is literally making my dreams come true
So crazy so much power 🎉
Are you going to show the performance with the win max 2 6800u model?
Does it help video editing / nle software? Or just for gaming?
Do you think an Acer swift go 14 will work with m 2 to oculink, it has 2 ssd alots
I'm using win 4 7840u and I don't have smartshift in my advance tab in bios. Which bios should I upgrade to get that option?
Can you explain how you connected the 4090. I wanna get a set up like this
RE: Doom Testing. The slowdown is likely due to the texture pool size being set to ultra nightmare. This is not recommended for 8GB cards. Card ran out of VRAM. I had this same issue with my 3070ti last year when setting to ultra nightmare at 1080p. If you keep everything else at ultra nightmare and drop the texture pool size to high, you would get full usage out of the GPU. That's all that issue was I believe. For anyone that may have this issue in ID Tech game engines :)
Phawx, how can I use a command prompt like that to set my win mini top with my g1? Thanks!
We really need oculink everywhere, even desktops have a solid use for it
I got the eGPU coming soon-ish after I backed the kickstarter for the new 7840U/64GB model. Unfortunately, the HDMI port crapped out on my 6800U/32GB model so ... I'm cautiously optimistic about longevity =_= They want me to send the whole device back and I'm hoping I can just get a replacement mobo I can swap it with and send the old one back. Shipping costs are insane for this thing.
It'll be nice to use the G1 with other machines though, I wanted versatility with this device.
Great video Phawx.
What I'm getting from it is, if I have the 6800u winmax2, I really don't need to worry about the oculink solution, because the USB4/thunderbolt port should be perfectly fine with almost no performance drop.
I'm never going to use the dock and not also be using my external screen.
I thought tb4 still bottle necked GPUs and there's more problems. Also external TB GPU enclosures are expensive
There are some performance drops and stability issues when using usb 4 in games. Check out eta prime’s channel. His video about the G1 and other egpu docks
As has already been stayed above, yes, there will be a more considerable performance drop compared to oculink. Also the usb4 tb4 solution in the WM2 6800u isn't great. Not that this would justify upgrading to a new WM2, that would be unnecessary. But just bear in mind that usb4 isn't as stable or reliable as oculink in this case.
Please help i just got my hand on the g1 and connected it to my ayaneo 2s, all good its showing on the display adapters along with the 780m but for some reason the primary gpu in use is still the 780m and the 7600 is 0% !
How can i make the 7600 work ?
I really want to see this in an older device tha doesnt have an oculink port but I want to see it connected via the M.2 oculink connector to see where it stands between M.2 and TB4. Please make it happen
If I’m currently rocking a GPD WIN 4 6800u is this worth it for me?
Should we use REBAR on with all oculink gpus? Or just GPD G1?
This is the one!
would like to try this with my win1
heeey, im watching a lot of your videos recently, and its being very helpfull.
It would be nice to see it runing some benchmark games on ayaneo Geek or 2s, could do it?
Hello sir! Can I use this on my zenbook duo 14? :) thank you. I am an architect planning to use it for my rendering programs.
Hey phawx, got my g1 the other day and cannot seem to get it to give me more than 85w on GPU Core Power (VDDCR_GFX). I already flashed the 120w bios successfully. My autotdp also says 32watt max tdp (bios) how do you set up your bios to allow full control in windows. Thank you so much for any help!
I was able to pick up a 6850m xt xg mobile for $560 from Best Buy open box.
I'd love to see these with different GPU's and prices... This is leagues away from Asus's proprietary eGPU's. What is awesome is that you don't need some big bulky power brick. It's so compact and not limited by which devices it can be used with Oculink or Thunderbolt, awesome!
Let me watch the rest. ^_^
I am amazed, and appreciate, that it does not use your typical barrel jack and use a laptop power cable. Cable management is alot less of a nightmare.
I am holding my breath for Oculink over Pcie 5.0, it will resolve every bandwidth issues and also i hope GPD will launch a more powerful mobile gpu capable of more power and a better memory interface cause 128bit is meh. In other words i'll wait for the QHD capable variant. If only Oculink became the new standard... Thanks for the in depth analysis!
Is it just plug and play ? Does the win 4 just recognize the g1 what's the initial setup?
The cost is keeping them unobtainable for the meantime. And pretty much if it breaks its done for
link to the 1 meter oculink on amazon?
What does he mean when he says 'Osmetic Kit' for his 4090? 27:58
Plz make video how to optimise the rog ally
Can this be a member of a daisy chain with a thunderbolt 4 Dock ?
my razer pro 17 power supply is nearly this big. I'd love a lightweight 14" laptop with occulink, a two meter cable, and treat this as a thicc boi power supply that turns my work laptop into a gaming rig too. For gaming laptops you can't run then at even half power on battery, so why not?
The Phawx, I want your opinion; whats the best value for compact 7840u gaming, the Aya Neo Air 1S or the GPD Win 4 7840u? Seriously I'm on the fence and it's alot of money (to me, especially because my country hits me with 25% tax on import)
I have the same question, but I think the win 4 is will end up being the best option. I love OLED screens but the 1S will probably have a very limited battery and the lack of occulink now seems too relevant if you plan on getting an egpu
GPD Win 4. The keyboard and optical touchpad alone is damn awesome..
The thing is, when you buy these devices you will try to tinker around a lot, so having a built in keyboard and optical touch pad are huge pluses in navigating windows while lying in bed/sitting on the couch.
Oh, I'd recommend to enable closed captioning for people who are deaf or hard of hearing.
Im curious about the performance compared to a used 3080 for $400 and an osmeta for $100
Does the Osmeta kit come with the bracket to hold the video card? I'm so curious about this set up. I would like to try it with my Win Mini and a a 4000 series card? I wish there was a dedicated video for this type of set up
So they definitely lied about it performing similar to a 3070. However great video as always
Does anyone know if the GPD G1 would work with a current MacBook?
Sooo, can this work on a regular laptop?
The IndieGoGo price buying it with the GPD Wind Max 2 is about 650 US$, so the value is better at that point.
went to 1600€ now for this package :(
@@asseforlifeefgrd And the win max alone is 1049, so the price is 643.
That Oculink cable shot up to $22, still cheaper than GPD's cable though.
Should i get rog ally with xgm3080 or this...
Did you tre to see if this is compatible on the ROG Ally?
Was wondering this too
Could this setup run World of Warcraft at max settings?
Sounds like if the device our using does not have oculink this device is not worth it? I got the old gpd win 4. Which run great but it might be nice to up the graphics when it's docked playing like cyberpunk etc.
It's probably still worth it as any other thunderbolt 4 based eGPU with the similar performance won't really be much cheaper. In fact eGPU enclosures don't really make much sense for weaker GPUs since you end up paying more for the enclosure itself than the GPU.
However, in that scenario you can upgrade the card down the like, this is a closed product.
Can i borrow this setup :)
at this rate GPD will be the next big hardware company.
What's the estimate price for G1? I can't find on their page or indiegogo
It's like $660 or so without the oculink cable. Amazon sells a cable for like ~$15 or you can get the bundle from GPD for ~$45 Retail price is $800
Where are GPD selling this m.2 adaptor?
Compare this to ROG Ally with 6850m XT XG Mobile egpu please.
Just compare the benchmarks here to the xg mobile’s benchmarks from other videos like from Jarrod’s Tech
I'm curious what the numbers would be for my Win Max 3 with a 6800U. Are they comparable?
Should be similar-ish, but you'll need to mod your WM2's M.2 slot into an occulink port, Phawx should have a vid on that modification.
@@jennyrosedeleon2557 They're going to sell a package that has all the stuff I would need.
I have a 4080...and am thinking of connecting to the GPD WIN Max2 2023 via Oculink. Or I could sell my entire PC and get a GPD G1...
what did u do
What about 1440?
Anyone have the price for this?
Im a pc noob, a lot of it goes over my head unfortunately.
I have a gpd win 4 the 6800u
Can i use this or is there another egpu i can use
Are they just plug and play, i love handhelds hate the faffing about 🤣
28:22 "Valuewise the GPD G1 is in line with what the 4090 is"
Yeah and we all know what a great value the 4090 is! *facepalm. External GPUs for handhelds are a scam. You pay more to get the mobile version of a desktop GPU that performs much worse yet it has the same name. Stop covering them so they will stop making them and taking advantage of people who don't know any better.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this your comment is very wrong
You do know that this isn’t just an egpu but a portsble docking station as well. It is a portable solution. Try taking your 4090 or whatever on the go
Much worse performance but the same name? 😂😂😂 you see you don’t even know what you are saying. The gpu here is the 7600MXT. Bro, there is an M at the end of the 7600 meaning it is a laptop gpu. There is no M at the end of the desktop cards. Go and look at the name well. Also, they indicate the tgp on the gpus. You don’t expect a 120W TGP gpu to perform the same as a 500W or 650W TGP egpu right? 😂😂😂
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr oh yes we can't ignore the 30$ value of a dock it adds....
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr you know that and I know that it's not the same with the desktop 7600, but the people this kind of product is targeted to, probably don't know.
Would've rather seen the G1 as an actual docking station (ie. chonky Steam Deck dock), considering the OcuLink+Thunderbolt combo. Being able to just sit it in the dock and play with boosted framerates would've been cool
Good or not?
The price is almost the same as a discounted 7900XTX today tho🗿
Close to $799
Yeah, for that price you can get a 6800XT, a decent PSU and an oculink to pcie adapter.
Can you carry the 7900XT in your bag?
@@maverickvgc4220you have got to understand that there are other egpu solutions even with oculink. The point of the g1 is portability too which has to be taken into account
Next step is to get Oculink working wirelessly...
I like the small size and compatibility of the unit, but I already recently invested in a Thunderbolt based eGPU. :(
Sponsered my anonamus xD
I got my XG Mobile 6850M XT for $600 to go along with my Ally. Better combo if you ask me. 120Hz+ life!
6850M is shit compared to the 7600 bro you must be dreaming
120w bios makes a difference
can you test gpd g1 on rog ally plz ❤❤❤
It doesn’t work on it. It has no usb4 or oculink. Go and buy the expensive and proprietary xg mobile if you want an egpu with the ally
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr some one is doing hardware modify let rog ally can run egpu like gpd g1 use back nvme connected oculink
It would have been nice to see some more realistic RT benchmarks, meaning in 1080p and medium-ish settings, not just in 4k which nobody would use.
Great video anyway, as always!
Hi @ThePhawx , I have an Ayaneo 2 and I got a AMD 7800XT on my eGPU. I'm having an issue where the eGPU can't load the drivers of the eGPU. Is loading a Microsoft Basic Display Adapter and I get Code31. Any tips on how to deal with loading the driver for an AMD 7X00XT eGPU?
Got it working. Had to remove my 6800U driver and Adrenaline, install the 7800XT driver and then install the 6800U and got it working.
@@franciscofredviana743can you use it in handheld mode still?
@@franciscofredviana743meaning, do you have to reinstall drivers after you unplug the egpu?